Here are some of my recommendations. Keep in mind that I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice — so consider the source. Get an attorney if at all possible, and discuss these things with him/her. Your attorney will understand local procedures better than I possibly could.
Stay Calm
As you deal with the interview, remember to be polite. Child protective services workers may become angry at hostile and terrified parents, thinking they must have something to hide. Treat the social services caseworkers respectfully, but don’t give them any personal or self-incriminating information, or leads to more information.
They may need to see your children in order to close the case, and they will probably want to talk to both parents. Don’t be afraid. Do whatever needs to be done in order to get the case closed.
The less said, the better. Child protective services social workers usually show up at your door with little to no evidence. If they are acting on an anonymous tip, they have NOTHING. They cannot get a court order based on an anonymous tip. The only thing they can use against you is information you give them.
Record and Document Everything
Check your state recording laws. Print out a copy of your state’s recording law, and put it in a file folder titled “Child Welfare Agents” near your front door. Have an audio recorder or video camera handy in the house at all times. If a child protective services social worker shows up at your door, be prepared to record the interview. You can, at that time, show them that you have a copy of the recording law.
Don’t be coerced not to record — this is your legal right if your state law says it is. Video is better than audio, if you can afford to do that instead.
Furthermore, you must document everything that happens in writing! Take notes. An English activist recommends you write down every word and insist that the worker must wait until the words are properly recorded. You have the right.
Keep a spiral-bound notebook on hand and use it to document every contact with child protective services or child protective services appointed “service providers”. Don’t back down on this! Prepare in advance, and stand firm against CPS agents! After each contact, write a letter (some recommend having such a letter notarized) detailing what occurred, and request that the social worker confirm or deny the facts as you understand them within ten days of receipt of your letter. If no letter disputing the facts is received, then your statement of facts will be automatically confirmed. This form of documentation can later be used as evidence in your favor in juvenile court. See: Your Case Notebook – Is It Up To Date?
Don’t Invite The CPS Worker Inside
You are under no obligation to let a child protective services social worker into your house. Under the basic law of our land, the United States Constitution, Amendment Four, you have the right to privacy in your home. No government agent of any type is allowed to enter your home without your permission. We know of many cases where entry was coerced by statements such as “let me in or I’ll take your kids”. Do not give in! Do not give up your Constitutional Rights! Stand firm on this! If your rights are not honored, you can sue them later, but it is so much better to force them to honor your rights now. Check out Forced Entry Lawsuit.
The only exception would be if the child protective services agent shows up with a law enforcement officer bearing a search warrant. Usually that doesn’t happen — and I will tell you why. The child protective services agent is there at your door to gather evidence. Usually he doesn’t have enough real evidence to detain your child right away and there is not enough “probable cause” to obtain a search warrant. Typically, he will be just working on a phoned-in tip from someone who wants to retaliate against you for something. If you talk a lot, your words will be twisted in such a way as to be used against you in court. Also if you allow this person into your home, he will most likely find something there to complain about and use against you in court. A sink with 8 dishes needing washing can show up in his report as “a sink full of dirty dishes and a filthy kitchen” which of course would serve to make you look bad to a judge. Therefore, just don’t let these people into your home. You have no idea what an issue a child protective services social worker can make out of a pile of laundry sitting next to your washing machine!
If the complaint the child protective services social worker is there to investigate is that your house is dirty, you can go inside, take a few digital photos, and then go back outside to show her the house is just fine. Or, you can tell her that without a court order there will be no entry into your private home thanks to the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution. If she’s working with only an anonymous tip, she will not be able to get a court order. If instead, she has credible evidence, she may be able to get one.
Say As Little As Possible
Of course, when you first see child protective services social workers on your doorstep, you want these people to go away and close their case. This will make you want to tell them things to clarify that you are not a danger to your children. Be careful what you say. As any activist will tell you, anything you say can be twisted and used against you!
For example, I thought it was good that my spouse and I were already involved in therapy and a 12-Step group for adult children of alcoholics. However this statement was used against me. It was used as evidence that I had problems and needed “services”. The fact that I was already taking care of my own needs and didn’t need a court order to do these things didn’t help.
Another thing you really shouldn’t tell CPS agents is whether you were once in state custody. When you tell them you were a foster child, first of all they know there’s a file out there with your name in it from which they can pull documents to use as “evidence” against you. In my case, most of the paperwork in our thick file was pulled from my spouse’s very thick state custody file. They claimed they had evidence that he was violent from the time he was in kindergarten and they were prepared to use that juvenile file against us, even though he had never harmed our child. Second, if you tell them you were a foster child, it marks you as a victim and makes them think you can be victimized more. Former foster children have their children detained at a rate much higher than most, so just be on the safe side and don’t mention that fact if it pertains to you. It really is none of their business. You should not open your mouth to help them make a case against you.
It is also not wise to tell them something like, “I am not an abuser – I should know what that is – I was abused as a child.” What this says to them is that you were abused therefore you are likely to be an abuser. Believe me, no matter what terrible situation you went through as a child, it is better not to mention that to a social worker. They will not feel so sorry for you that they will just go away. No, it doesn’t work that way. They are looking for bad things to say about you to pad their caseworker report when they present it to a judge.
Yet another thing you shouldn’t say is whether your child was detained in the past. A history of child protective services interference in your family tells a caseworker you are on their hit list. If you have ever had a child taken from you by Termination of Parental Rights (TPR) move to another state or better yet, out of the country, and keep it a secret! There is a 1996 law (ASFA – the Adoptions and Safe Families Act) that gives the child protective services agents the right to take away all future children if you ever had a TPR in the past. If this law is used against you, there will be no reunification plan, no “reasonable efforts” to keep your family together, and most likely no visitation.
Another thing to beware of: they may ask you for referrals to people to help prove your fitness to parent. For example, I was asked for my ex-husband’s phone number. Thinking he would give me a good referral, I complied. As it turned out, he was told that making a statement against me would help him keep custody of our children. The most damaging “evidence” they got against me were false statements signed by this ex-husband and his girlfriend, who had only met me briefly once and had never been in my home! This woman had the gall to make a twelve page false statement typed on legal paper regarding my parenting abilities! She called it an “affidavit” but did not sign it under penalty of perjury, and for good reason! Therefore I advise that you NOT give them “leads” to your friends, family, ex-spouses, therapists, doctors, etc. They are just looking for “evidence” against you and they are experts at coercing this sort of evidence from people who know you. Make them find their own evidence — don’t help them find or make contacts!
So, if CPS agents are at your door, stand firm and say as little as you possibly can! If you feel they are making a case against you anyhow, get an attorney to help you through an interview in your attorney’s office.
Don’t Trust CPS Social Workers
In other words, know the enemy. Know who child protective services workers are. I used to work with child protective services workers in the Dept. of Public Social Services, Visalia, California, so I think I’m in a position to tell you what these government agents are like, though I’ve never been one. (I was a welfare eligibility worker.) The typical child protective services social worker is there for one reason: to have a job to pay his/her bills. This worker cannot afford to lose the job, so s/he will do whatever the supervisor says in order to maintain employment.
Now, if this child protective services social worker is put into a unit assigned to go investigate referrals and to make decisions regarding detainment of children, then naturally this person would be suspect if s/he never detained a kid! In order to maintain employment, this child protective services social worker will have to take a certain number of children into custody… therefore when they are at your home, they are thinking to themselves, “what can I find out about this family to build a case aimed at taking their kid?” They must have a case to take into court, and they are there, looking for evidence.
Even if they seem nice and harmless, remember, this is how child protective services makes money. To keep their jobs, they must take away children from their families. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They come to your door saying, “I’m just here to help.” The next thing you know, your children are in state custody and you are in court trying to prove your innocence. Remember, even if you like the person, behind every pleasant personality is a need to keep the child protective services social worker job. Behind every seemingly nice caseworker there is a more experienced child protective services supervisor who may tell your caseworker to “find something” to use to detain your child. You would not believe some of the idiotic allegations I have seen in caseworker reports… but if they can get a judge to rubber stamp their side of the story, they can get away with keeping your children in state custody. Don’t trust these people!
Service Plans
You need to understand that child protective services funding is closely tied in with “service providers”. It is likely that the social worker will offer some kind of deal, saying you can keep your kid if you agree to “services” like psychological testing, drug testing, therapy, etc. What this offer really means is that they don’t have enough evidence to take your child into their custody, but if you will just go to their “service providers” they may get the “evidence” they need through these “service provider” reports.
Say, for example, you are accused of drug use. They want you to go to a drug testing service to prove your innocence. You say, “Okay, I’m not a drug user, I’ll go”. But then you find yourself facing false-positive results … or if you miss an appointment, you are told that will count as a positive drug test. Your life is being severely interfered with because you have to go to scheduled appointments, miss work, make special child care arrangements, etc. Believe me, all this is not a “service” to you, no matter what they call it! It is only a way for child protective services social workers to try to get “evidence” against you so they can take your children away.
What I recommend based on what I’d do in similar circumstances: Do NOT sign their plans. Do NOT admit to anything. Force them to PROVE their cases in court, in a FULL TRIAL. Don’t accept just a hearing where you are coerced to sign guilty to the charges. They will try every trick in the book to get you to agree to their sick “service plans”. Stand firm and just say “no” when they ask you to sign your legal rights away.
Just Say “NO” To Private Interviews With Your Child
The CPS agents will want to talk to your child alone. Just say “NO”. Tell the agents that your child has the right to have an attorney present, and that if he insists on an interview then you and the attorney will be present and the interview will be recorded, preferably on videotape. Of course, if your child is attending a public school, you probably won’t get a chance to say “no”. What would happen is that the social worker would go to the school and, behind your back, get permission to talk with your children from the school employees. You can tell the school ahead of time (in writing) that you don’t permit such interviews, or anything other than basic education activities, however you cannot trust school employees to go by your wishes. It might help to ask your attorney to write a letter to the school forbidding interviews with CPS workers. Keep in mind that the public schools are one of the major sources of CPS referrals. I have heard that caseworkers complain that public school employees actually want more child detentions than CPS agents do!
My advice is not to trust the schools, and to homeschool if possible. I am a big homeschooling advocate because I believe it is best for kids, and one of these days I will write a page about that too… but in the meantime, just keep in mind that it is hard to say “no” to interviews if your child’s school will say “yes”.
Already the government puts child protective services social workers into public schools to look for target children. Eventually this may be the case in every public school. I think this is a good place for me to mention that I support the separation of school and state. Please check it out.
Be sure your children know that they have the right to say, “I don’t want to be interviewed without my parents and an attorney and a tape recorder present.” Child protective services social workers will not tell your child that s/he has the right to say that. If there is still time, you must be the one to train your child how to deal with government agents. Be sure your child knows the consequences of child protective services interviews. If anyone is detained, it is the child. If they say the wrong thing, they can be taken into custody and removed, possibly permanently, from parents, siblings, friends, their home town, their pets, and everything else they hold dear in life! They will be traumatized by that separation, and probably put on harmful adult psychotropic drugs to deal with the separation. See: Drugging Foster Children.
If they complain too much about being incarcerated in state custody homes, they may be put into mental hospitals, or placed in restraints, which are known to be deadly. “Teach your children well,” as the old song goes. We live in perilous times. We owe it to our children to help them learn to deal with government agents that may harm them. Remember, children are eight to ten times more at risk of abuse in foster and group homes, so we are not over-reacting in teaching our children these self-protective measures.
Advance Preparation
I’ve suggested that you keep the following things on hand: a tape recorder, blank tape, video camera, spiral-bound notebook, and a file folder marked “Child Welfare Agents”. If you have time to prepare for a visit before it happens, you are very lucky. Most people don’t take the threat of government interference in their lives seriously — until after it happens to them.
To prepare, I suggest the following items be printed out from the internet and placed in your folder: your state and federal laws regarding child welfare services; court cases that insure your rights; the Bill of Rights, newspaper articles and statistics showing that children are not safe in state custody homes. Be prepared to show these things to the social worker that comes to your door, and question them about the wisdom of taking children into state custody where they are eight to ten times more at risk of abuse.
If they want to take your kids, question them about the “reasonable efforts” requirement to keep families together, and about what “pre-placement preventative services” they are offering. If they want your child, ask about what “imminent danger” exists. Let them know that you know the laws!
For example, if they claim something happened on Monday to your child but they show up on Friday afternoon to pick your child up, you should be telling these social workers that obviously no “imminent danger” exists or they would have acted on the report right away! If you don’t stand firm and point out their mistakes, they will walk all over you and violate their own laws in many different ways. Yes, your child still might be detained, but if you show them you know their laws and can speak their lingo, they will think twice before choosing you as a new client.
In addition to the paperwork detailed above, keep on hand in this “Child Welfare Agents” file your pediatrician’s doctor reports showing that your child is healthy. Every time your child sees a physician, request in writing that the full report be sent to you. You should not give these reports to a CPS agent, but you can let him know you have evidence showing that you are a good parent, not an abuser. Flash the papers before his/her face, don’t hand them over to be read… these are your own valuable documents and you don’t need to share or tell the worker who the child’s doctor is. Let the worker find evidence on his/her own. Don’t help a CPS agent try to build a case against you.
The point of having this folder is to let the social worker know that you know the laws and you are prepared to defend yourself! You are not going to share your “evidence” with a social worker. They have no right to it unless the case goes to court, and then you share it with your attorney only – or if you’re representing yourself, you can enter items like pediatrician reports into the court records as evidence.
Coercion
Be prepared to face coercion, even from your own court appointed attorney. Just like many others, I too was told by my county attorney that I could take my child home that day if I would just sign guilty to the charges, and I was so desperate to get my baby, I signed. Thousands of us have done that. Believe me, it is better to say “No – I want a full trial – you must prove your charges!” If you give in to the coercion, you will be jumping through their “service plan” hoops for months to come. If you go through with a trial, there’s a possibility you will win your freedom from this government interference in your family’s life.
If you go through a trial, and your child is adjudged a state ward, and you are court-ordered to complete a “service plan” or “reunification plan,” then of course you should do your best to complete every part of it before the next court hearing. This plan will most likely include psychological testing and counseling — that is a standard waste of taxpayer money. If the social workers want to court order you to anything that does not apply to your case, you should insist that your attorney fight this requirement in court. For example, if they want you to go to drug testing despite the fact that you are not a drug user and they have no evidence that you might be, then fight it! After the court hearing, if social workers try to force you into “services” that are not in the court-ordered plan you can refuse to cooperate. You are only required to do things that the judge has ordered. You should document all such illegal requests for additional services that haven’t been required by a judge. You can request a state administrative hearing from the state social services department to discuss these requests with an Administrative Law Judge.
Likewise you may find that child protective services social workers are trying to delay setting up services that are court ordered. You must document your repeated requests for such services and the excuses the child protective services social workers give for delaying the start of such services. Child protective services agents have been known to delay services so that your case will last longer. If your child is in state custody for 15 months, your parental rights can be terminated on that basis alone. Your goal will be to get your child returned at the next court hearing, so don’t allow delays!
Here’s the link to an article I wrote about child welfare investigations and your rights:
Investigations v. Rights
What Others Recommend
- If You’re the Subject of a DCYF Investigation – attorney Paula Werme’s advice on what to do when a child welfare investigation begins.
- Parents victimized by children’s protective services – good notes on cases built on unconstitutional religious prejudices.
- Dont’s and Do’s When Falsely Accused – this was written by a friend of mine back in 1995.
- Answering the CPS (Child Protective Services) Questions – suggestions from a Virginia homeschooling site.
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I was dealing with cps since last Dec. and basically have had my children kidnapped and handed over to my ex. It started with police coming to my house to check on someone else’s child that slept over because of fighting with her boyfriend and somehow I got thrown into the mix. I was asked if I was doing drugs and I was on pain management for a rotator cuff tear that I was waiting for surgery for and was not comfortable going for a drug test but did. I have a video of the worker saying “she’s not doing drugs, we don’t have enough, so she’s going for a drug test” I believe she was aware I would have a false positive which my doctor wrote was a false positive and another letter not being concerned of any drug use or my parenting but those were ignored. I quit my medication and have numerous negative test. They took my kids from school and to my knowledge placed them temporary with their dad. I do not have papers served to me or signed anything for this I was only given a supervision order which I contested. When trial came up just recently they had their turn which I can prove they completely lied on the stand. When my day came they withdrew so I never got my turn so now I’m fighting my ex for my kids that they claim they did not take. If they were not taken how is it I am fighting in court for them still even though they want to come home. So child protection can come to your home take your children give them to someone else and walk away is basically what I’m learning here. Someone needs to stop these evil people they are not out protecting our children. They have caused serious trauma to my once very happy girls who are now sad and depressed.
Please inform yourselves about what CPS can and cannot do. There is no quota for “taking kids” nor is it something that is taken lightly. Unfortunately they have to look into every single report if it rises to certain standards that require intervention. Not to mention all the paperwork involved throughout the life of an assessment, it is not something done for “fun”. If you are being investigated, someone was genuinely concerned for the children’s safety and that is all.
https://wehavekids.com/parenting/InsideCPS
I had cps come twice. I cooperated, went to her office, talked about my adhd and my daughters adhd and medical condition. Guess what? They said I was medically neglecting her. A year of bogus monthly visits where nothing changed except the pressure made life much much worse. When she closed the case, there was virtually nothing different. When some dumbass teacher or dr reported us again, I said nothing. They interviewed her at school, but it didn’t go anywhere. They just put a ‘black mark’ on my record, just because. I was too exhausted to appeal it. But I’d say always appeal their decisions. Hard. It lasts ten years. I work in industry where sometimes there’s dhs checks. So some jobs I can’t do.
They used only my own words as evidence. Nothing else. I was accommodating, except to let her in.
i call b.s.
Sorry this is so long. I wish I had known these things before they came into my life!
Years ago I was going through divorce/custody. I had to call our town cop to my aid because my ex husbands brother was threatening me physically, destroying my house, throwing things at me. My husbands family is very influential and this brother is an elected official in our town. Oh and an ex-methhead/alcoholic. So at this time town cop refused to file a report, instead questioning me about my drug use, cuz he heard my ex was using again. This town cop is best friends with my ex hubby, and he KNEW in my younger days I had experimented with those things right along beside him. So I said, yes, officer, you know first hand you’ve seen me do drugs and I saw you.
So this gets CPS involved in my case and rumors run rampant in a small town and before you know it it gets out that I am a raging addict (I do take many prescriptions, more on that later). This got back to my grandmother, who then turned the power off at the house of hers I was renting. She paid the power because there are grain bins and things not just the house on the power bill. I told her the drug thing wasn’t true and hadn’t been for years so she asked me if I would start paying my part of the power. I told her of course, I was so thankful she got me out of a abusive house. Well I tried to pay that bill, but they couldn’t just take money from random people,as granny never had it changed to my name and I did not know the account. So once again, CPS looks at it that I was living in a house with no electricity with me son. Granted, I didn’t even have notice, I left for work one day with power, came home that night and no power. So I sent my son to live with his dad til I got it straightened out. Three days later CPS and the same town cop knock on my boyfriends door demanding a drug test. I said no, thinking of my prescription pills that I take for anxiety, fibromyalgia, and depression and the fact that they would be in my system and my prescriptions were still in my house I was in the process of moving out of. I KNOW I wouldn’t have tested for any illegal drugs though.
So the cops and CPS people tell me, well that’s a automatic fail, which I now know it’s not, and they came back with a safety plan that I can only have supervised visits with my son with the supervisors being…my soon to be ex in laws! The very family that terrifies me, not to mention had a meth lab in their basement. So I went to one visit then skipped the next two, because my ex husbands brothers terrify me, so of course I got in trouble for that. They stared sending workers to supervise but they could take place in the new house I had just rented because, it was once a house that someone sold drugs out of…two people before me!
Meanwhile a few days later I did my drug test and sure enough they found Xanax, for my anxiety, and ultram for my fibromyalgia, except ultram shows up as methadone a urine test. I did have bottles for the ultram but they still counted it as a fail until my doctor and pharmacist had to explain , no that would be the ultram and she NEEDS it and does not over use it.
So two days later my soon to be ex husband had CPS knocking at his door for a drug test and of course, he failed with methamphetamine (this was about three months after he finished drug therapy). So CPS calls me and says my kids being pic into emergency foster care with my ex brother in law, yep the one with with the meth lab and manufacturing meth charges. Any at this time I couldn’t believe he couldn’t come back with me. I proved I was using prescription drugs only as needed and nothing else and by that time I had a house with utilities in my name.
This whole process was so confusing to me, so I show up at court with a court appointed attorney who had me plead no contest. This all started in August. By September my husband was doing unsupervised visits, November my son was getting to stay weekends with his dad, and by Christmas, he was back living with his dad. I was following case plan, attending AA and NA, seeing a therapist for my anxiety, was working a good job, and passing all my tests. But foe some reason caseworker disliked everything about me, went so far as to tell my attorney that, she even straight up lied on the stand about my drug evaluation recommendations more than once. My son even used to tell his caseworker that his dad would drink and drive with him in the car, drinks til he passes out, drinks in the morning,etc.
By April I still had 100% supervised visits. I finally told caseworker I’m doing what I’m supposed to but your not helping me progress. She stated to goal of this was reunification with a parent and she had done that with his dad, so she felt her job was done. I finally told her I won’t do visits at all if they will be completely supervised. In June she changed them to drop-in visits. So in July I asked about doing some overnight visits, and My caseworker let my ex and his attorney make that call, so of course it didn’t happen.
Finally in August of that year the juvenile case was dropped and CPS recommended my ex has full custody for now and I can get my son every other weekend for one overnight. Now we’ve been fighting in district court again, even though we had signed a parenting plan of joint custody before the CPS got involved. Now I’ve spent another $10,000 on an attorney because my ex was given the upper hand by caseworker, ruining our chances to cop aren’t in a healthy manner.
Ive read alot of these comments and all i can say is LIIIIIIIIIIDAAAAAAAA HEEEEEEELP………..
Please take a look at this website and tell me how cps and the courts are NOT corrupt
Might help if i added the website, and linda, i hope this isnt againsg your policy as i certainly do not want to get banned
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This has nothing to do with the case thats ongoing now
Im desparate for legal advice. My court appointed attorney won’t even return my calls. I’m currently in Nevada.
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I would like to talk to you about what we are doing and have you consider joining forces. Your group and your mission will remain yours but if we can talk, I think you will like what I have to say and see that you and your efforts as a network, associates, friends can do something BIGGER on this. I do live talk shows and have some BIG plans I think you will like that are going to have an impact as well as a massive awareness. I am not trying to compete with you. I want to network with you.
Hi there – I love to network but don’t like to talk on the phone.
Yes Linda Please contact me [phone number deleted]
Danelle, I never make phone calls to people from this site. So sorry but I just can’t. In the past I did get a few phone calls and they took up an hour of my time each time and some made repeated phone calls thinking I could somehow help them. But that’s not how this site works. You see, I’m not an attorney and am not allowed to have clients in my state, not even as a paralegal. The bar associations got laws passed saying paralegals must work under attorneys only (in many states including mine) so I cannot have clients and can only blog (write) and suggest things you might want to consider as strategies for working on your own case. That’s how the site works… figure out what would work best on your case with your special circumstances in mind, and then take those strategies to your attorney for confirmation and help. Start here: Who Will Prepare Your Case? Please understand that phone calls are extremely disruptive to my work day. Like many others, I’m scratching out a living barely making ends meet and don’t have time to spend talking on the phone – and especially it disturbs me that I can do so little to help. I can’t work miracles on these cases. Look to God for that kind of help. I’ve had people get angry at me over the phone in the past because I couldn’t fix things for them… and I can’t put myself through that again – it was just too distressing (for both of us) and believe me, when I hear and read about these cases with children taken by the government and parents in deep emotional pain, it gives me a lot of emotional pain too. I really care. But I can’t fix things the way people want me to. Only God can do miracles. I hope, dearly hope, that many of you here will learn to look to the Lord for help because He really does help those who seek Him.
IS aps and cps legal theory the same. I am applying cps caselaw to aps. My mother was taken in a fraudulent and corrupt guardianship. Everything has been destroyed. Have been fighting for two years.
Robert, yes, there are similarities between Adult Protective Services and Child Protective Services. Often with adults, they are trying to get the money from sale of any property owned. A scam perpetrated by our own government! Read the regulations. Some of my ideas here may be useful.
Please help! Just got a call, they came to my house while I was at work, that they will be coming to interview my children…Do they need to be there? This will be the 3rd time in 7yrs that we have been investigated for the same thing….The 1st two were based on unfounded reports. They are saying it’s neglect towards are disabled son….plz help!!
http://healthimpactnews.com/2017/pro-vaccine-physician-examines-both-sides-of-debate-with-open-mind-and-has-change-of-heart/ and http://medicalkidnap.com/2017/04/09/tennessee-judges-gives-dying-father-chance-to-defend-himself-in-effort-to-regain-custody-of-children/
Both websites post stories about parents fighting CPS. CPS likes to operate in the shadows. I’ve seen cases exposed through these sites end in victory after years of struggle. If you have a particularly horrible, unjust case and would like your voice to be heard, contact them, give it a shot. I also have learned a lot from the stories posted there. Often parents describe what exactly they did, who did they contact, even what did they say in a letter for example, lots of valuable information. Highly recommend to subscribe to their news letter.
Medical kidnappings are all the rage right now. Infants just born or few days old taken from families. Almost always because of malpractice or medical errors in my opinion. I strongly encourage parents to educate themselves about current vaccine schedule and the irreversible harm that is doing to the children. Don’t be another victim, educate before vaccinate. Shaken baby syndrome is a classic junk medical diagnosis that’s sends innocent parents to jail. Today it’s not if CPS will get involved in your life if you have children but when. Sign up for free documents series about the real truth about vaccines. https://go.thetruthaboutvaccines.com/?a_aid=1619624&a_bid=988aa9d6
I was told a story where CPS got involved to remove a 2 year old child from mothers custody to “get her cough up on her vaccines”. The parents were getting separated and the father wasn’t happy that the mother didn’t want her healthy daughter vaccinated. The father made the call. The child was returned to her mother severely brain damaged….anyone who thinks that vaccines are the miracle of the modern medicine is NOT educated about the history, efficacy, and the real dangers of the vaccines. If you don’t believe me all you need to do is read vaccine insert not the watered down version written by CDC that your doctors office hands down to you. That’s just the start. I strongly encourage everyone one to watch this. We already know about corrupted CPS, but they are not the only ones. The miniseries start April 12, 2017. It’s called Truth About Vaccines. Check it out and share with as many people as possible. God bless.
Can you tell me how or who will investigate the foster home my grandchildren are in? My two-year-old granddaughter said ow when your mother wiped her privates in the bathroom at the CPS building and she said what’s wrong Rose? Rose said, hurt and my daughter asked her who are you Rose? Rose said the name of the foster dad. I called the police because CPS said that they were not going to take her out the house today was too late in the day on Thursday, Friday maybe they would get to her in to the doctor and if not by Friday for sure by Monday I was bezerk I called a different Police Department the police came and got my granddaughter from the foster home took her to the emergency and the Emergency Physician said that if there were no scratch of scrapes and bruises everything was within normal limits. In the bathroom my daughter said she looked at her vagina and it was open, red around, with a tiny piece of tissue from the inside pouching out. The police took my granddaughter back to the house and there is nothing I can do about it. Do you know what I should do? CPS “said” they investigated and there is no findings but they won’t tell me what they have done because the case is sealed
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I have a question. Almost 3 weeks ago police came to house and told us they received a call that some one reported I scratched my kids. (i’m married 15 years and have 2 kids,its my first marriage and we still living with each other without any problem). Police checked my kids and there was nothing and they said that the report was false and everything is fine. But after 3 weeks I got a call from social worker that she want to talk to me in few days. I don’t have anything to scare but after I search I got worried about this. Please help me what should I do?
I wish there would be a way to overturn a ruling from cps of neglect by use of corporal punishment. We were in the process of adopting these two boys, just 12 days from finalizing from a 18 month fostering. I know we have no rights but we sure love them and they love us and wanted to be adopted. Say what you will but a swat on the rear can work better at changing a stubborn rebellious 10 year old who never received any discipline while in the system. The thing is they told there older sister who lives in another town via phone call and the boys confided in her and even told her they didnt mind, it helped them!
well were an older couple that made a huge difference in these kids lives taught them so much and home schooled them to catch them up unlike all the other homes that werent invested. We wanted them to succeed in life and be good honest men someday that the world seems to lack. I read alot of these stories and it makes me sad, I am a 62 year old grieving man without the kids I almost had. People enjoy your kids, fight for them and love them as God has gifted you with there presence. I look around and see the toys, and all the remains of a family that almost was. They havent been told yet they wont be coming back and I think cps should do the dirty work. I was way to nice to these people. We even provided six impecable letters of charactor on our behalf and what a wonderful change the boys had made while in our care. Alas, if only we could turn it around here in oregon
I am needing advice if possible because it doesn’t make much sense to me but I had an open case with cps and they took my daughter out of the house I got her back after 3 and I was coperating with CPS and everything they had told me they require 3 things to be done before they closed the case and they told me I had to take parinting classes and counseling and also getting a pay e for my SSI but they ended up closing my case before I had a chance to do all of that and so I didn’t bother to get a pay e so I had gotten told that the case is closed and if I don’t get a pay e in so much time that CPS will open the case back up is that possible you think I am trying to make sure weather or not to do it or if they can even do that or not
How did this turn out for you? If CPS closed the case, they legally are no longer allowed to dictate what you do. The only way they can is if there is a court order outlining that you need to do this thing, but if the case is closed, it is closed.
Cops will be eliminated when Trump gets in office. Their salaries can pay for the wall!
I think this article is really one sided. I am alive because of the work of the CPS. I can not say they are perfect or nice, but they save children’s lives. You both have the same agenda, and if you don’t then the child does need to get help. If you are scared to have your child interviewed or letting a CPS agent into your house, then you are the one who needs to check yourself. CPS does great work, even if they do it harsh. To make an entire post talking about how to be rude to them and stop them. Goodness gracious, be an adult invite them in record them if you want and talk honestly and respectfully to them. They are there to help your child.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING CONSTITUTES GIVING UP AND LETTING SOMEONE RUIN YOUR LIFE. MY PARENTS HAD TO SUE CPS, DCFS AND THE FRIGGING STATE BECAUSE OF THEIR FALSE REPORTS AND CRAP. ALL BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OK IF THEY LET THEM TALK TO ME ALONE AND UNRECORDED AND LET THEM IN THE HOUSE ‘JUST TO TALK’. IN THE END THEY ADMITTED THAT ALL CPS AND DCFS WORKERS CONSIDER THE ACCUSED AS GUILTY AND ‘ONLY GOD KNOWS IF THEY ARE TRULY INNOCENT’.
Please, message me in my facebook inbox. My name is Vivian Nmagu and I am facing false reports made by of course the accuser but more importantly and more disturbing the social worker who investigated the case. The interview she carried out is anything but legitimate. I even question its occurence. When I appealed her decision I got a call the following day from the same CW threatening and accusing me. Your parents sued, that meant they refused to be intimidated. I’ve had so many tell me not to fight back, but I just cant bring myself to admit or acccept what I didnt do. Please, who were their attorneys?
You’re an idiot Ethan if you believe that!
I am pleased to hear CPS helped you but unfortunately you are the 10%. 80% of the cases and removals CPS does are unwarranted and families are destroyed because of them and because people unaware of their rights. If there is good reason for their visit, they will have the evidence they need. It’s not my job to give them things to use against me. They are not my friends or family and they are not welcome in my home.
Question: say ur sister in law has emergency custody of ur kids, an u the parent, still have ur rights, but u have to do a few things from Dcs, befor u an kids can b under same home, an u move to a different state, do u still have to do case plan
April, unless you have an attorney advising you not to, I think it is best to do the case plan agreed upon when your children were put in emergency care. It is always best to get an attorney if you can afford to do so.
Can Dcf gain custody of my children because i am not cooperating with them?(As far as allowing them in my home) can they only gain custody of the children if they are in imminent danger? The supervisor keeps telling me the “policy” is seeking legal consult and from there going to court to gain custody of my kids. My gut is telling me she’s trying to scare me. Because they have been telling me for about two months they want to close my case they just need to see what my new home looks like and provide them with proof that my two oldest kids are in School and my baby is up to date with his doctor. So if they want to close the case , wouldnt that mean my children arent being neglected ? I see no such “policy” anywhere saying if i dont let them in. My kids will be taken away indefinitely. Mind you i never signed the service plan because the case is supported on really bogus things.
Due to a strange twist of career events, I start a new job as a CPS worker next week. As a child who grew up in foster care, I developed a hatred of most CPS workers at an early age. Because of my past, I became interested in helping kids and families, but through school and also due to personal interest, I’ve done a lot of research into abuse, trauma, CPS, improper removals, and the failure that is the Adoption and Safe Families Act. I agree with everything posted in this article. I will keep all of these things in mind going forward, and my focus will be on reunification first, because I know how serious the issue of removal is and the trauma that children and families endure. How horrible to take a child out of his or her home without good reason! I hope to help families rather than hurt them more. Thanks for the work that you do in informing parents of their rights.
hi my name is C. and i am 16 years old i am in foster care at the moment this is my second time opening a new case when i was younger i was very unstable and didnt think things out very well but i was able to go back home with my mom when i turned 15 years old and recently i had called dcs to get help because my mom had a boyfriend that was beating me and my mom had told me that i deserved it i called dcs about 9 times trying to get help and a month later they took me in but they have been treating me like i have done something wrong i have the same GAL i had in my previous case and he was bringing up my past behaviors and the way i used to be when i was 11 years old !! i am now 16 and wanting to just be happy but i have a caseworker named [name deleted] and she has put me in a foster home with people who have called me numerous names such as bitch cunt and heifer my foster mother has an aunt and her and my foster mom both have said that i am in the system because nobody wants me. i have previous foster parents that want to take me back and want to adopt me but my case worker refuses to move me. my depression has gone from mild to extremely severe. i sometimes feel like life means nothing anymore and my foster mom and case worker are using my grandma my 2 year old nephew my sister and my previous foster parents as a punishment and im am not allowed to see them. what should i do because i am extremely unhappy and i dont know what else to do.
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Hello im currently under investigation due to my past case that was closed a little over a month ago it was closed with legal guardian ship over my daughters and I have a newborn now and due to my past case of dv they want to inveatigate bc the father is still living with me im scared they will try and remove my baby now from me what can I do please help me !!!!
Short of contacting a lawyer (as of right now) I’ve tried everything I can think of in order to get a few important questions answered before I have any further contact with my DSS case worker. I live in the Charleston SC area. I have an 8 year old daughter. Her father and I are divorced and I’ve been remarried for over a year. My husband recently (last Wednesday) tried to commit suicide by overdose. My daughter and I were both home and when we heard a loud noise from the bathroom my husband was in, my daughter checked on him and said he had fallen on the floor. Suicide was the LAST thought that came to mind. Before I go any further, my husband and I are both recovering addicts. After 7-8 months of heroin use, we both decided on our own to seek treatment. At the time methadone was what seemed like our only and best option to recovery. This was in March of 2014. Five months after entering the methadone program my ex husband (whom for years I had no coparenting relationship with due to his soon to be ex wife’s jealousy) made a complaint to DSS after finding out I had been using heroin…again I was 5 months clean at this point. Basically bc I admitted prior use and that we were now clean and in a methadone program, my daughter was removed from our home and placed with my ex’s father and wife. My ex stupidly forgot to consider his at that time marijuana habit so he was now being investigated along with myself and husband (whom was at that time just my live in boyfriend). In the end after 5 months of no treatment plan, a voluntary negative hair follicle test, voluntary parenting classes and still not getting anywhere with DSS, I hired a lawyer to get my daughter home. She was with me a week later. Apparently shortly thereafter my exes. Case with DSS was also closed. He decided then to take me to court for custody and after thousands of dollars, him and his wife finally split up and my ex and I settled outside of court. So that’s basically where we are now as far as that situation.
My husband recently about 40 days ago completed his detox from methadone. As for me, I’m still in the process of detoxing from that horrible horrible “medicine”. Even detoxing down all the way to 1mg of methadone, the withdrawal is insane for a cpl of months. The mental state my husband has been in along with the physical aspect of the withdrawal, is nothing we were ever informed of. And last Wednesday my husband couldn’t mentally deal anymore. Thankfully we were here with him and ems was able to save him. On the downside, my daughter was here and dss showed up that Friday. By this time my daughter was already with her father. My questions are these. 1. No drugs were found in our home. The police report states that. But they’re asking myself and my husband for drug test. Obviously my husband will fail if he overdosed on a drug in a suicide attempt. So why even ask for one from him? And since drugs weren’t found and the allegations aren’t drug use, why should I be asked to take a drug test? 2. My ex has my daughter, would he have to submit to a drug screen if he isn’t under investigation? 3. My husband and I have decided to separate so I’m no longer in the home…how would an investigation even still go on if there’s nothing to investigate since my husband and our home are no longer in the picture? 4. If my ex (my daughters father) lives with someone else while the investigation is open, will they or can they legally involve them also? Any information would be really helpful. Thank you
Hello,
First, I just wish to say how useful this site is to me. I have a strange case to tell, with me being fourteen and my father having the social workers in our area on his back. I was speaking to my therapist, who said that she would recommend therapy and things for my father. He is a kind, caring man, and yet she has twisted my words to say he abuses me and the other children in my family. I am scared, and everyone else is also. Along with this, the workers so far have done some unusual things, like taking pictures of my four-year-old brother’s bottom, which he needed to be completely naked for. I was alone at the house, and a case worker made me bring my eight-year-old sister come over from a friend’s house- with no parental consent first. These things seem unusual, and I am still only preparing myself for the fourth visit to come. My parents do not know I am doing research into the child protective services, and I’d say this site has helped immensely in my work.
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Your Playing With Fire You Can’t Do That Caseworker Are Bad They care nothing Kids They wish to Have you up for sale . They make up lies they are The Devils Best Friend ..They Sold Me to Foster Homes When I was a Baby for sex For 5years then When I had Kids they Made Me sign them over ..I Fight to keep the two I have now ..you really think they care about kids ..they Care about having a Job Don’t Let them in your Home for anything keep them out Stay Clean Don’t Drink or Do Drugs Give them nothing ..they will have nothing make them take you or your family to court to come in home ..they come to your Door say warrent !!!!
This is just thinking CPS No one Who gets in the race for President is Going to shut Down CPS it’s a Big money Maker and now some are Sueing for being so wronged ..Donald is rich we can sue him if he Becomes President And Corrupt so we can Sue him he Puts his hand on the good Book .then take more kids then we sue like no Tomorrow he Be sad he Didn’t Shut them Down!!!
Please help I was sentenced to prison on 8 yr sentence i got out in 2011 and got my kids back in 6 mo time been doing good ever since. For the last 4 years life has been that of a normal everyday lowerclass so called family. Last year I was hit head on by an 18 Wheeler and I almost broke my back in three places and have 3 places my nerve is pinched. I am taking meds and I’m going to therapy for speech And memory loss. I almost didn’t make it but I did and now cps comes in from a tip trying to black mail us for a argument between us and the accusor. My gf recieved the email 2 months prior to cps stating he was going to send it to cps that we were delaing drugs out of our home. The accusor and cps worker claimed to be romantically involved with and asked for her by name in the email is the one who has came and ripped our lives the rest of the way apart. She took us to court with only the one Emil from this person and we were made to take a drug test by hair and urine. Passsed urine failed the hair. Nobody has asked for which meds we take and nobody has even listened to us about this. The cps worker told my daughter we were using meth and she could not go home from school Friday. They told her school we were not allowed to have contact with my daughter that she was in a dangerous environment. She never checked our house she never checked medical records she never tried to help us at alll she did exactly what this article is saying. Now we can’t find anyone to take our case BC the hair test came back positive. She told the woman I signed temp custody to there was not even enough to say I was an occasional user but she still ripped my daughter out of my home and it feels like the breath right out of my chest. We have been through so much as it is and I have to be supervised and no overnight stays can anyone help me ?
Need a Good Lawyer But they are Hard to Get Because they get Payed Win or loose it’s always a One side Court .and the Lawyers love to Loose Better your Family then theirs!!!
Shawn McMillan resides in san Diego California street fighter look him up if got yr kids back he will take yr case
I don’t know Shawn personally, but very impressed with his personal ambition regarding CWS. I wouldn’t be surprised if his very apparent passion for litigating against CWS was fueled by his own personal experiences involving the wrong doing by CWS workers.
Anyways, my understanding is that Shawn’s team, recently on the phone, that their focus was only on Warrantless Removal cases, after the fact, whereby the Juv. Dependency case has ended [with either Reunification or the parent TPR’d].
That said you can email or contact them via Shawns website.
I’d suggest, you type up a VERY SHORT, synopsis of your case, it’s present status, and what you need or seek help with. KEEP IT SHORT. People are busy, and don’t want to read novels. Shawn nor any other lawyer, doesn’t need the details or story up front. To get your email or letter(s) read, quickly to the point.
Last week, it only took allowing a person to speak for 30 seconds before stopping him, and 2-5 mins of reading 2 pages of the critical court documents, before being able to explain things, the laws, options, implications of such, etc.
And regardless of lawyer(s), you need to be a STUDENT again. Begin researching every LAW and legal process relating to what’s going on (i.e. cps removal of children, cps cases, juvenile cases, etc.) or could go on, with regards to you, your family, children, cps, the law and court’s IN your jurisdiction.
Focus your attention on:
1) the laws, rules, codes, etc.
2) Policies and procedures [governing the agency];
3) Laws governing the Court and agency;
4) Discovery [and getting your hands on every last bit of evidence, document, record, etc. that is created or exists];
5) being proactive and doing everything possible to prove that you are a good parent, that your children are not abused or neglected, etc.
6) Read LOTS OF CASE LAW pertaining to your situation/issues (it will teach you alot of valuable things),
The solution IS YOU, YOURSELF. A lawyer dramatically helps, but is not the solution in and of itself. Only YOU are the solution, YOU must be HEAVILY INVOLVED, and it is your case.
I have a second investigation in Luzerne county in Pennsylvania. I am being accused of being a drug user and being high while 6 month old daughter is in my care. As a result of the first case, my fiancé has been given custody of our daughter. We felt as if this was the only choice, and figured we would eventually just get custody given back to me as 50/50 when we think things are blown over. I have been clean since the my daughter has been born, and quite frankly find it ridiculous they are saying my daughter cannot be left in my care without another person present when the court specifically said it is the fathers choice to let the baby alone with me. All of this nonsense is happening bc somebody yet again has given them an anonymous tip. I heard there was a specific law stating that they are obligated to show me the name of the person who called or wrote in the tip if I say a specific phrase/word. Is there any recognition of this? Also what should I do here?! I just want to be at peace with my family and stop being accused and investigated by these hideous people.
Ok Give them a Drug Test
And Hair with a Good Lawyer in Pa is Very Hard that’s the state that sold me for sex by caseworkers For Five years Plus Taken My kids from Me ..I had to Say the odds are angist you ..sorry it’s Bad Pa Has Perfected Taken of Children ..Lawyers would have to Have a record of Winning angist CPS..Good Luck ..God Bless!!!
You can’t be given the name of the person that made the referral
Hello I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone can help me with I am a 25 year old mother with 4 kids an is also pregnant my kids father does live with us an helps me with our kids as a family..so the other day I get a San Bernardino children and family services card in the mail I didn’t understand why so I called the social worker an she says someone reported that there is Domestic violence in my home.! Witch is NOT true ..I don’t know what to do ? The social worker asked my children to come in so she can interview my children .I have no problem with that but kids kids are also very young my oldest is 7 N my youngest is 2 ..I’m losing sleep an don’t know what to do ..do I have to go to the interview should I go to the interview what do I tell my kids an what do me an my husband have to say for this lady to close my case …I also invited her to me home to interview my family an she said she needs us to go the her office .its scary me an sounds like a set up..pls help .
My husband, son, and I just went through something similar and my son is 7. Unfortunately, ours happened at school, so he was taken to the police station and we had no choice but to cooperate, or he would not be given back to us. From what I understand, you should cooperate to a point, but they can turn things around on you. They got my son to say things that were taken the TOTAL wrong way from what he meant because he’s young and didn’t understand how to explain correctly. Our case is closed and ruled out now, but those days were harrowing. I would suggest talking to an attorney. Look online for one that may have specialized in cases like yours (just in case). DO NOT let them speak to your children alone until you know more of what is going on with your case. You don’t know who reported you or what was said. Your children (or you) may say something they misconstrue. I heard about a woman who (when asked if her and her husband argue), answered that of course they have arguments once in a while, everyone does. And it was turned into him emotionally and verbally abusing her. I am not an expert, but I just went through this and know how scary and confusing it is. If our situation had been different, we would have contacted a lawyer and been very careful. Luckily, we were blessed with a CPS worker that did her job well and was very helpful to us, even past when our case was closed. They are not all bad, but you need to be wary, just in case. Most of them treat you as if you are guilty until proven innocent. I hope this helps.
Hi I was in the same situation and you don’t have to go to the office or they don’t need to go to your home you can meet anywhere! They are on ur time… Plus its all hear say! They will say anything just like the article says. Tell them when,where and how sorry but fuck them this is ur family! You don’t know these people they can be weirdos… Just cuz they have a job title don’t mean they can be trusted. Look at all the descusting stuff on teachers,doctors,pastors and cops in the news so, come on… Don’t be scared that’s ur family stand strong. God bless
Some times in life you have the. Right to Answer your Door or Phone they live off Making up Case Even when their is not one make them take you to Court with a Warrent they have nothing Call the cards to Be Seen And get a lawyer ..they have to have some Cop to say they ware at your home Plus a call from their to show no show no warrent no Come in home for anything ..But you have the right to not go to a Door you have the right to not Call anyone ..you have the right to Do Nothing for Someone who has nothing!!!
Liars and manipulators are hell. My partner’s ex is someone just like that . She has been trying to separate me and my partner ever since we got engaged and she realized that she turned away a decent guy because their sex wasn’t great.
She accused my son of raping her daughter. She fed her child lies until she believed her and was able to tell CPS that he touched her. A physical exam was performed as well. The exam showed that she was never touched.
CPS are trying to take my children from our care and stop visitation happening with my partner’s child because we sleep at night and they want 100% supervision of the children and say any less is neglectful.
They keep coming out to try and find evidence against us. They keep twisting ours and professionals words (my doctor was concerned that she had heard from CPS and CPS turned around and said that there were concerns about our well-being), we were out when they tried to make a surprise visit so they sent a letter saying we were avoiding them and they were coming to take our children (which I fought and won….for now).
Tell me how that is right?
Oh and CPS were supposed to interview my son but never did as they knew that it wouldn’t benefit their case
Get A Lawyer to Stop Harrsment!!
Linda,
On February 1st my son lied at school and said my husband hit him (he scratched his shoulder with his fingernails so that he had an excuse), he claimed his shoulder hurt very bad. They sent him to the nurse and then called CPS and the police. We were in shock when we got the phone call. They took my son from school to the police station and would not tell us anything really at first. Finally, after several hours of freaking out at home, they called us to come to the police station. We were there for 3 more hours of questioning and threats. While there, my son realized the severity of his lie and told me that he hated school and teacher screams at him so much it hurts his ears…he just wanted to go home when he went to the nurse. They ended up telling us that my husband (the primary caregiver of our son since I work full time with one car, and no family or support system) had to move out of the apartment during the investigation. I kept my son home from school, took him to his pediatrician (they tried to make us go to the hospital) and the doctor said that there was barely a mark there and it looked like little fingernail scratches. He is now going to be tested (finally) for ADHD as a positive outcome. We had a home visit the next day and the CPS case worker said my husband could come home and she was closing the case. We didn’t hear anything else about it until yesterday…we got a call from the police. He said that they wanted to do a forensic interview with my son and asked why my husband was still in the home. I explained that CPS had told us that he could come home and that they would be closing the case. I gave him my caseworker’s name and phone number. I waited a little while and then called her, as well. She told me that she closed our case the day after the home visit and we just had not received the paperwork yet. The officer said that he would call me back and let me know one way or the other if they still needed to conduct the interview. I haven’t heard back yet. Should I be worried? When he was at the police station, he said that they confused him with their questions and came to RIDICULOUS conclusions afterward. I made an appointment to speak with a lawyer by phone today. Do you think they will close their investigation as well? I thought we were done with this craziness and now my son is upset and blaming himself all over again, and I’m afraid of them making my husband leave. Any advice would be HUGELY appreciated. :'(
Jennifer, if your son is still at home with you, they must like and trust you. Everything is going well. I think it will all blow over and go away, especially if your son isn’t going to testify against his father. You did the best thing, by making a move toward hiring a lawyer.
Update: We received the paperwork in the mail that our case was ruled out and we can have it removed from our record. We have not heard back from the officer (which I am told is a good thing). I really appreciate this page and all it offers, as well as you, Linda. Thank you very much for the advice and support.
They are Playing You They sale Kids ..they really Could Care if you ReaLLy Did Anything ..Lawyer Plus Get Everthing they say in writing ..make sure they
Stand Behide
Their word
Or they
Will lie make you look Bad ..that’s what they Do ..!!!
Write down or record everytime you meet with cops and cps. Do not talk to them call a lawyer and ask questions
Hello I really need help as i am starting to get worried here. My son got out of the house and so cops were called as my mom couldnt locate him. Unfortunately by doing so they alerted the CPS stating that my mom is no longer capable of taking care of my son. She works graveyard and she does sleep once in a while while watching my son which is 2 years old. He is a handful and uses whatever he could find to open the doors and gets out of the house. We did cooperate with the CPS for having home visit and stuff. I havent heard from her for over a month and now she just called asking for another home vist. What does this mean, can they take my son away from me because he got out of the house on my moms watch. Please help this is stressing me out.
N, I understand being stressed out because of CPS. But I think they’ve got you on a “family maintenance” plan where you can expect to have someone show up once a month for a short visit to make sure the situation is stable. Just be friendly and ask how long these visits will continue… if you want to know. It is true she might see something she doesn’t like and then take your child, but since you’ve already passed their inspection once, that’s probably not going to happen. If they were going to take your child it is most likely they would have done it the first time they met you. Anyhow, hope it turns out okay. Let us know!
Hello, i need some advice on how to keep my son from being taken away by CPS. I am being investigated for child neglect as to when it comes to his meds. He has medical issues and therefore requires meds. I have not been able to see his endocronalogist due to having some serious ilnesses and also my son being sick Amoung other situations. I don’t want him taken away as it once felt like he was as a baby when being in the NICU for birth prematurity and i really need an opportunity to show that i can care for him. CPS had come and asked to evaluate his condition and see how well organized i am when it comes to his meds. The only problem was that i had missed meds before but it is more due to lack of hospital pharmacy sometimes telling me that his meds aren’t ready as for when it came to his meds already veing ready for pickup in the last case i was told they would his meds sent home and i ended up going over to the hospital pharmacy to pick them up.
prayers . my kid was in and out of hospital .but the truancy judge place her into her abusive fathers care. She is 14. I had cps on my back. he father called them all the time along with the casa worker tied to the judge. the casa worker told her to miss school for 6 weeks. the judge , 2 cps workers, casa, prosecuting lawyer and her father hammering me in court . with a public defender. I lost and she was placed into the abusive mans hands. her father. . he is popping pills into her. so he can keep her and get more money from child support and the state. I lost her. prayers for you.
Your Going though Hell I Know This is all I can say their is one Doctors all over And Med can be Given By many .and every Doc like Schools Help
fine Kids Put you Can get many Records of Your Child Health and Fine Doctors in Other Places away from Ware you live !!
No More in Home For Caseworkers They Are Hoping you
let them In They can say anything about Your Home they wish Because you
Let them in You Tell them Mom No Longer see after your Child End Of Story Or If you
keep Letting them in The Come Up with a Story them Selfs They Have Every Reson to Lie ,What Reson Do they Have to tell the truth .they Are Trying to See What they can Say ..they Come along Really nice and They will Be until They Can Think of away to Put a Knife in your Back ..one of the Things they Like if you Have Money to Pay Child support !!! Tell her her office you will let her look over your Child their . Play it Safe take it From Some one who Knows I lost two
And have two of my kids with me you
Think if I really hurt one of my kids I have any in my Care Now DSHS is Kids for Sale in to money Go’s though them State and Fedrelly ..But they need the one who Can’t Fight Back!!!
Get it in writing and record everything going on just in case
I need to know if in Kentucky when CPS administers a drug to a minor child if they have the right to witness the minor taking the test.
Larry, do you mean – the Child Protective Services social workers are watching children get urine samples for drug tests? I would consider that sexual abuse of some kind. These social workers are not nurses or doctors, and even nurses at a clinic won’t do that.
I’ve heard of social workers insisting on watching adults get their urine samples, but this is the first time I’ve heard of them doing it to children. Someone needs to hire a lawyer to take this to court. We need legal precedent to stop this kind of demeaning and abusive behavior by Child Protective Services social workers.
They are Sex Traffic You have the Right to Be Upset But you Hit the Nail
Right on !!! I have my
Kids in One state I won My son Back one of them and I have my Daughter and in another State they keep my other son Who has Autisum and he is Scared all the time of Being Hurt I cannot Get one lawyer to help
You need lots of money He is with APS And Being abuse I’m Sure Even his Med Levels are too Low so he Go’s Off !!they hurt Familys and I was Scared Because of are News Story
I had a Plummer come over to my home named tom Wickersham he says he got Family with the FBI and they will Deal with Me Now I say what Do you Really think they Did to Nacy they Sale Kids ..Doesn’t any one think Slavery!!!
These stories scare me. My daughter has been taken from me and a TPR petition drawn accusing me and her father of abuse. Just like the DCF, I have no idea how she sustained her injuries. The judge ordered a test be done, but it hasn’t yet. How can the DCF issue a TPR without the results of this test? How is that fair. My fiance and I are heartbroken and stressed out of our minds. What makes it worse, we have a court date approaching. The TPR is so sloppy and full of incorrect information I don’t think it’s even legal. My daughter is 2 months now and the TPR accuses us of not bonding. Since she has been in foster care, when we visit she smiles and giggles at my fiance and me. How are we NOT bonded? She might be a baby, but she knows us. This whole process is exhausting and enraging, but I know I can’t give up. I pray that this judge will see through the DCF allegations and realize that I would never hurt my baby girl. I’m doing my best to keep it together, but I am scared that what happens to many families will happen to us. Innocent parents shouldn’t have to suffer at the hands of an institution that was designed to “help”. It is not right and desperately needs to be corrected.
DCR125 – I wonder if you could get an expert witness to observe you at a visit then report to the judge on whether you’re really bonded. You might need to get a court order for the witness to be able to observe. When you go to a TPR hearing, having an expert witness is one of the best strategies. Also, if your attorney isn’t helping you prepare for the hearing, you can tell that to the judge. This is something that could be brought up in an appeal. Remember, if you lose the hearing, you should make a request for an appeal immediately. Do not wait on this – it needs to be filed within only a few days.
You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. Giving CHILD ABUSERS a blue-print how to get out of trouble is pathetic.
I know CPS can cause problems, but assuming that ALL agents are dirty is a big mistake. How would you feel if your child was being abused by a boyfriend/etc, and he fooled CPS based on this post?
Dear Mr. McMnamara ;
There are MANY case where parents are wrongly accused by wicked people who are jealous, or seek revenge, or are just busybodies who think they saw something, then report it to the CPS. By law, those parents are investigated by simply an anonymous tip. CPS regards those accused as guilty until proven innocent, and just a little bruise on the kids arm will get parents in a world of hurt (remember, kids sometimes get bruised). I hope, for your sake, you are never wrongly accused of beating your kids because some nosy goody two-shoes neighbor who thinks you are raising your kids wrongly reports YOU to the CPS. All agents are NOT dirtbags, but they are ALL required to investigate anonymous tips. By default, YOU are accusing ALL parents of wrongdoing if they are reported. You will be rethinking this if YOU ever get reported.
This is absurd.
Point. Blank.
Actually, it’s not absurd. Social Services and CPS social workers do abuse their power. Not all of them are corrupt, but some are. Others simply don’t realize the limits of their power and step over the line because that’s how they were taught to work. Either way, it’s incumbent on parents to know their rights and their children’s rights and to not allow those rights to be violated.
“Absurd”? Because your job depends on allegations? And parents are NOT to know and exercise their constitutional rights ? Now that’s “absurd”.
You are evil. Your job depends on taking someone’s children away…you lie and twist the truth to hold unto your job. You make me sick.
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I so agree. My niece lost custody of her daughter after cps said the child WAS sexually abused. Drs and psychologist both stated claims weren’t true. She was never given a plan and only recieved the first visit. The grandmother filed three claims. All were unfounded. But come court day…suddeny child was molested and having any males…brothers uncles etc in the home was not allowed in the home. She can’t get custody back. Family court is not interested in the truth. Protect yourself.
John, your nuts. This article is about protecting your constitutional and personal rights and freedom. If CPS has a rock solid case i.e rock solid witnesses and audio/video, they’ll get a court ordered warrant.
You must be a social worker. Social services isn’t interested in helping children or preventing child abuse. They have proven this over and over country wide.
The bottom line is money – Federal money and keeping their job. There is no such thing as a “good” social worker.
The term “Foster” care parent is an inadequate description for strangers who take in other people’s children for money. If they treat the children decently it’s because they SHOULD. But they are STILL taking in children because of the money and more often than not, these places are abusive AND neglectful. But a significant number of these people take in children to pay their house note or car note.
People need to wake up and learn their own power. You need to be quiet. The advice on this website is for parents who have NOT abused their children and who actually care about them – but are ignorant of their rights.
The WORST thing you can do is cooperate with CPS. Parents stop being afraid of them! Your FEAR is your worst problem. Learn how to make decisions based on your rights and facts and not on your emotions.
Don’t let cps fool you with their phony friendliness or coerce you with their bullying. That’s all they are really. Bullies. Don’t let them terrorize you and break up your family. Stand up to them. Stand up!
well its a well oiled machine and there are panic attacks when well meaning people see issues that they have no information on and are trained to troubleshoot by the government. Peoples jobs are on the line and they all think they know better and classify and use basically a caste system that goes unacknowleged
You are an idiot if you think CPS helps anybody! The police are just fine for that. Ask around find one person ANYWHERE that has good things to say about their CPS experience!!
GO AHEAD FIND 1!!!
I have had sole custody of my my child for all of his 10 yrs. Recently his father was granted custody. I appealed the descion and still didn’t get custody back. I found out the social work both me and my ex checked out fine health wise and home wise. Our son said he wanted to spend time with both of us and she recommended that he go live with his father…..I have no idea why. My has told me he wants to come home. He’s never with his father. Most of his time is with his Grandma or dads girlfriend. (She actually running the show) the father has never been around regularly. It’s just whenever he pops up. My son tells me he’s afraid to tell them he wants to come back home with me in fear they will cut our contact. The GF is very controlling, she sent me a text telling me how to talk to my son and that I could text or call his phone that call contact had to go through them. When I got to see my son for 15 mins he told me he was instructed to tell me nothing that goes on in their home. Help. I need to get my baby back.
Cops called my ex husband and told him that he needs to pick up our child immediately because I had attempted suicide, left a note and was taken to the emergency room for my suicide attempt. I did go to the ER that day, for high blood pressure and my feet were extremely swollen and I am 5 months pregnant. While there, I started crying because my current husband and I had an argument and he said he was divorcing me. The ER had someone contact me, who asked questions like “did I want to kill myself”, etc. I said no I did not want to kill myself but I am extremely exhausted and do not want to get out of bed in the mornings because I have two kids, work full time, am 41 and am pregnant, plus my husband just left and wants a divorce. I stated that I thought I was depressed. The woman then convinces me that I need a break to rest, which sounded nice, and that I could talk to people and get that break if I voluntarily check myself into the hospital. I agreed. Then two hours later after a good cry, I said, no, I do not want that and they let me leave from the emergency room. My ex husband then calls me and asks what is going on and says that the cops agent is watching me leave the emergency room and he is being told to come and get our daughter because I attempted suicide and left a suicide note. He gives me the agents number and I call, but she does not answer. My ex tells me that she knows you are calling but does not want to talk to me. This happened on Friday near close of business. My ex does not come and get our daughter because he understood I was depressed and sad about my marriage ending and said it was normal to be sad. Furthermore, he said that our daughter interferes with his relationship with his current girlfriend and her two daughters so he does not want her to live with him.
I contacted the emergency room and they stated that they did not call cps and would not release false information regarding my health. I attempted to call an attorney but it is a holiday. When I arrived at home, the cps agent’s card was on my door. I also called the police department and was told that there was not an emergency warrant for my children’s removal. I am now scared to send my 5 year old and 12 year old to school tomorrow because I read that cps can just take them with no warrant from school.
Any advise is appreciated. I go to work tomorrow, work for the government and am now worried about losing my clearances, and means of support, as well. Thank you.
Sorry…autocorrect…it is CPS contacted my ex husband, the CPS agent stated she was watching me leave ER, and Same CPS agent left business card on my door. Also ER said they did not contact CPS. I work full time, am 5 months pregnant, have two children that I support financially on my own. Also, CPS stated that I went to ER for attempted suicide and had left a suicide note, which did not happen…no suicide attempt and no note.
OK 1st this is to the person above Nichole.
Can you pls tell me what is the amendment(s) in place for & what was the women’s movement fought for? ppl from age 14 & up in most states have a “RIGHT” to choose for them self and for their bodies and unborn.
i don’t know if i agree with you honestly, but to each their own.
I was removed from my blood families home not because my grandparents were “bad” parents it was cuz they were getting older and on in age and they were sick & getting worse.
I then went to 10 foster homes b’cuz i was raped in my 1st home molested in my 4th and got into fights with the foster brothers and some of the bio kids in my other homes to many times to count,
i was fighting boys and sometimes girls- off of me and other times i was fighting just for the what “ifs” in case of someone trying to hurt me in anyway ,
i ran from the 1st few group homes where i was placed in between foster homes off and on,
b’cuz i did not like how they’d hit us if us kids in the group home didn’t do what they said and in one of them i was told if i didn’t do as the staff said they’d kill me. And in 2 others I just ran away cuz
I aint want no one to fins out my foster father got me pregnant & I didn’t want my child to grow up in the system, other last of em was because I wanted to go HOME!!!
Now Nichole; you did make it sound and di say all of you so I took it as you were talking to me, see I grew up all through the east coast and I am in my heart forever a Noyorican, if ya’ll don’t know what that is its a Latina born in Nyc instead of puerto rico. ,
I said that I let the parents know what’s up when dealing with any case and I do my job to the T I love my job just as you love yours maybe i even love my job more then you do, cuz my job does pay very well.
& i get rewarded not only from working hard & making money but to help those in need and so to answer your question am I a reporter YES I am.
I feel there is a better way that the system can work for the people it was made for not for the gain they can get out of the political BS that goes on within it. I also asked what are the ways Dcf is making things better (?)
now let me say this before i go on- my life was terrible and i fought to get and keep oldest, I sued the state and won my case & some money too,
which didn’t make me feel too much better it just made them see that they couldn’t get away with what they did to me and hitting this cooperation where it hurts made me feel good
yet never healed that pain they caused,
I am better now and have gotten the help i needed way back then once i found someone who was willing to stand up & help me( heir called therapist) ,
i am not saying that your a bad person i am saying the ppl that should of protected and severed children (me at the time) should of done their job,
I am saying that there is too many ppl working in child”care” just for the check n not for the benefit of those children young adults & teens who truly need the help.
I am saying there is other ways to help beside taking a child from their home,
ppl all over the world make mistakes and ppl are now a days too afraid to ask for help b’cuz they’re worried over loosing their families , the sysytem is not orking and i am saying ppl wont ask for help b’cuz the system isn’t offering help like they should,
now i know far too well that some ppl only have babies for a welfare check raped or not I know too that ppl are sick and will delibrately go out and have a kid just to hurt that child(person) in what ever way they can…
I am not blind to what goes on in the world nor am I the kind of person to just take ppl as is cuz they promise to never do it again,
I & my boss * workers (er doc on call most times) will talk in lengths on how to help families and we as a ream have to do what is best for the child(ren) involved and just like you we have to report and try to fitter out truths from lies and go about things like this in a understanding yet gentle manner,
I had a girl come in and the mom said she fell on her bike and just her self (you know where) and well I had to make sure that was the truth but the mother was not acting as (in my opinion ) like a mother should be when something like that happens and come to find out she was molesting this lil girl of only 6 yrs old.
I reported her.
Kids also lie too thou and i had another case where another lil girl came in and was told that she fell and hit her bum well she was fine but she lied and said her daddy was touching her and i reported them and come to find out she was mad cuz she couldn’t get her way over something i think it was over a toy she wanted at Wal-mart,
this girl was 10 and her daddy was hardly ever there to have done as she said and test showed she was never touched in anyway.
so again my job or your job i already am doing what i think feel and know is best, i also think like i said lots of ppl whose been in dcf care do good at times is b’cuz they don’t want to deal with dcf ever again and also b’cuz they wanted to…
I think it is a combination of both but again like i been saying I can only speak for me.
For me personally I do not and wont really ever trust DCF or what ever you call them in your state, I am professional when doing my job and that is the time when I deal with them other then that i leave well enough alone and do you know how many times I had to make a dcf call 4-6 times in my long years of working in my field.
I can’t say i know ever person but how else can I explain- I am a great judge of ppl in many ways, but not all the time i do admit that and in the cases i haven’t called (too many to count) I have only be proven wrong once.
I do my best to try and find out about the ppl I help and most times I see them again if not in the ER, sometimes when their older or sometime in labor & delivery even some times just at a store or market or even on the street and you know what,
i see big improvements and i get a big smile & a “thank you” even from the 4 out of 6 ppl I reported.
You said i think you been in your field of work for about a year well Mija
I been working in mines for
about 6yrs & I am presently finishing law school, I’m going to be come a guardian alidum,
I respect you out of many
because you’ve taken your time to explain&
your not out to hurt your out to help,
i am glad the system worked for you when your parents didn’t
but again my feeling toward the system is solid & founded feelings.
They lied played games and wasn’t doing their job & I do not see any changes
even if you do I still don’t & wont trust them in my own personal life!
In regards to the above post. I thought my earlier post was very wel thought out. And of course if you were moved to 10 foster home and 5 group homes. may I ask why you kept getting moved?
second i am pretty sure i did not judge anyone. I suggested a better solution then to sit around and feel sorryfor the injustices. DO something about it. As far as pay goes it is not a great paying job but it is rewarding to see the people you help. Some people do not work places beacuse of the pay they do it because it is a chance to help people who want your help. Out of the 30 cases i have handled over the last year do you have any idea how many kids i “placed? 1. So tell me again how evil I am in babysnatching. Tell me again what i think or feel. No I do not think that these people are doing well because of the system. I think they are doing well because of the choices they made. Do I think that maybe just maybe somebody from the evil system might have lead them in some better direction then what they would have found on their own? Yes I do because I do it again. I am sorry you ahd such a horrible foster care experience. and absolutely if those things happened the way you say they did you most certainly did not deserve that. But someone should have been following the law. Maybe thats wat failed you. Law enforcement. And maybe just maybe you should be finding out why people did not protect you instead of grouping all caseworkers and people in this field as evil mind game playing liars. If you work in the field as you say you do..are you a mandated reporter? And if you are a nurse then you are a manate reporter. Do you call childline when a child has been abused or do you sit back and hope the system doesnt get to them? So if I am so wrong from classifying or sterotyping the good people that have benefited the system, why is it ok for you to classify that everyone in the CYS system is evil? and the reason i work for CYS is because I was a child of the system. I do not speak to my birth parents. now or eve. My kids will not speak t them. My foster family is an will always be the onl family i will ever have. And because of them I am still here to see my little boys grow up. And we are not in the system anymore. And we are not rich and i love my job and my kids are proud of me whe i show up to the school to check on an abuse accusation or any other kind of allegation. I am not looking for anyonesapproval or disapproval i am saying that “caseworkers and they system” work for some people and i am pretty sure that the people it works for far outnumbers the families that it dsoes not work for. Ad by the way our foster family go through an intensive screening process. Criminal, child abuse, fbi clearances. We go as far to get their insurance poliecies on Quads that they own. So yes we screen our families and if there is so much even an inkling of abuse or neglect going on then foster families liscense is gone. not in two weeks. Not when the investigation is over. IMMEDIATELY. Again I am sorry that you experienced what you did but Sorry to say the system helps way more people then it hurts. Ranting and raving on here will not solve your problem. Go to the source. And it might be the caseworker. It might not be. But i suggest you find the source of the problem and do something about that so that it doesnt happen again,. That is how i live my life as well as how my county runs CYS. I’m just saying
You are evil. all cps does is cause division and hurt. You need to seriously consider another career path. Do it before you are hated more. Yes i will judge and say that you’re evil to the core. all cps are. my experience was with someone who tried to push their way into the house and they insisted on going inside. told them “no” and they said “why not?” Told them they were NOT welcome to enter my home. by the way, cps ruined my marriage. a liar called on us. my ex wife couldn’t keep her mouth shut and drug my name through the mud and asked very personal questions. I did NOT appreciate it. I’m divorced now thanks to cps. You’ve caused more hurt than help.
Cps has ruined my life so far!!! I was told that if I didn’t divorce my husband I would never get my kids back due to allegations which still they have not presented any proof of!!! Hmmm….because it didn’t happen!! They are very very evil cruel people who want to believe people who are jealous mad and just flat out mean and in my case mad because they cannot control you anymore!
This is ridiculous. CPS has been given crap because the government is retarded with their training and funding. The officials do not want to take away children unless there is severe abuse to a child that continues. If the child is taken away it’s because there is a reasonable reason to and whoever takes the child will have to give proof or valid reason as to why. There have been deaths of children since so many have not been taken out of the home.
Here is an opinion given to me. There should be a test given as to if you have the right to become a parent. Also from the age a female is able to reproduce, something similar to the new birth control nuevana I believe it is called is inserted into them. Then they wont have the chance of becoming pregnant if they are raped. They wont have to try and remember to take birth control. And when they decide to become parents they can take the test, similar to having a life-like doll for a few weeks and volunteer time at a nursery-supervised, as well as a cognitive test, if they pass then they can have it removed and get pregnant.
I have personally seen cases of abuse on children, physically, mentally, and emotionally and it is heart wrenching. If the parents cannot handle something, why don’t you ask for help? Keep your children, foster care is too full. Just learn how to deal and manage and love your children.
Just an Opinion.
my kids just was taken a month ago, false alligations and they dont believe me, there isnt any proof of anything. i dont even spank my kids hardly, im in trouble because of a mad teen who wasnt allowed to date her 19 year old cousin, she has told them she lied about the abuse and sexual abuse, they now are saying we are druggies and alcohlics and domestic abuse in the house. which is crap. for one i work in the social field, i voleenter my time at a food pantry in which my daughters girl scout troop built for the silver award, also which i am the assistant leader of. for that fact my husband is a offical girl scout. we voleenter at boys and girls club. our kids play so many sports we are out in the community daily. my husband runs all night for 4 kids after a 10 hour shift. we also are very active in our church and was in children ministry. my life is ruined, ive lost everything. bad thing is i dont even like alcohol. ive never been in trouble not even a driving ticket, i follow the rules and the laws, due to my beliefs and i also excapt a very abusive relationship, in which me and my kids was put in danger all the time, but where was all these people when i called the cops on him and they only made him leave for 24 hours. my anxitey is in overdrive right now and so is my other medical problems. i have children with disablities and all i do is worry. any help from anyone would be great.
Nicole,
You work for CPS/DCF and yet you think to judge every one on this site?
Let me 1st ask you this How do you know some of “us” on here doesn’t already work for CPS/DCF?
You do not know yet you presume to know it “all” Next question is has the political crap with in the system really changed? you been working with CPS for how long?
And if your not getting paid good you wouldn’t work there in the 1st place.
next to last question is this, how do you now screen adoptive/foster parents and what is it that you yourself gonna do or is willing to do to fix the problem beside come on here and judge everyone?
can you fix all the millions of hurt kids that are now adults no you can’t you’d suggest counseling and what not yet that can help to talk it over
but it doesn’t heal lots of ppl who been effected by “THE SYSTEM” and for those saying that they are in ppls lives to help…
Again scroll up and read my lil story.
I never asked to be placed in foster care and i had a great family that loved me and took care of me i wasnt beat nor was i abused at my blood families home,
i was taken from love and placed with MONSTERS, and when i say all i mean all 10 fosters homes and all 5 group homes, My grandmother was toooo sick to do it and my parents where not able to,
but there was plenty of family to send us to yet they went by my own mothers history and then my grand momma’s and then the same system that basically raised me then told me i was unfit
because of my age and there was no other reason forth coming it was that & they we’re some how law jury & jude and yet they were the ones to raise me,
Allowing their foster parent(s) whom they did give money to for me, more ways to find hotel etc & rape me and get me pregnant,
yet I hear “oh well there must of been a reason”
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WAS THE REASON ALMOST 14 YEARS AGO FOR ME TO BE BEAT SO BADLY I ALMOST DIED WHILE BEINBG PREGNANT with my foster fathers daughter?
what was the reason to get burned on my face & stabbed by my foster mother cuz i wouldnt let her touch me?
they claimed i was unfit yet they thought their ppl they hired was so fit and these ppl were mostly church goers and jesus freaks.
now b4 anyone go off on this comment i also believe in jesus i am just not a fanatic.
so tell me Nicole, these ppl you claim are dong so well in society do you think its cuz of cps/dcf?
I think its cuz they do not want to deal ever again with the BS and pain DCF/CPS has caused them, i do not do drugs I do not drink and ever since I got away from CPS
I do good because I want to not cuz of anything the SYSYEM contribute to. and I think that is why many others have done so well as well too. we al seen the destruction which is & will forever be worse then anything on this planet,
its worse then Katrina! 20 X worse and even then your statics of “good doer’s list” wont help or ever show the pain, loss and death CPS/ DCF has and will continue to cause.
I am a RN and I see what families can do and what they can not do, I seen babies beat almost to death and some to death and many have died in my very arms,
I seen what life- not just “the system has done to families and I’ve seen them same ppl get beat down because they didn’t fit with the Systems etiquette or criteria after the drama with their family members
pain abuse or loss, there is no compassion in Dcf’s political BS which makes them “moniker” as they try to deceive and play mind games.
my job, I feel is just as bad as yours but i love helping ppl and I am honest & blunt with families and their young.
I do not sugar coat anything and I let it be know what is up (going on on ) good or bad!
Nicole trust me when I say- I know I could do ya JOB,
Cuz I already do!
SO while Your “just saying” Listen:
If you haven’t been on both sides then maybe you in PA Nicole CPS worker shouldn’t just be judging everyone or even “JUST saying”
walk in my shoes I got plenty story of my old life to tell if you really want t know cuz im sure you
Nicole Can’t and wouldn’t ever make it growing up as I had to or live as I once had to live either!
We used to think like ” you guys are killing me”. We thought CPS went after bad parents and saved kids ,but we found case workers have their own agenda. My wife and I have never been in trouble with the law and all it took was an uninformed case worker to believe our adopted son and his fantastic stories to put our family through hell. He and his two sisters were adopted from CPS and he suffered from ADHD,Opp. defienced syndrome,and attachment disorder. When we were called in we had a 14 page psycological with us which she dismissed and shoved in her desk. Our theripist was questioned and dismissed, friends family were at the intervention but were dismissed . He was removed and our other children were not to be alone with us until the Judge ruled in our favor. We’re all together now and recovering but my kids still cant sleep in their beds alone. The accusations were a combination of half-truths, exagerations and outright lies. My son was not to blame, he does what an 8yr old with his condition will do, but the case worker should have seen beyond her own arrogance. I pray to God everyday that some day i will be able to forgive you CPS for what you have done to my family.
my wife and I have been harased by cps for years I been accused of everything from beating my wife to maleasting my kids we can not afford any legal help what can we do or is their anything for poor people to beside take what they dish out because thats how it feels
Anthony, start here: Who Will Help Prepare Your CPS Case?
They say they do not want to take the kids and they want to “reunite” but you can jump through every hoop and then your thrown another like a dog!!! It’s bs. Go for the people that deserve to be sought after! Not that hard especially when in my case been to my house 4-5 times due to ridiculous jealous people and they wrote it off with no problem….have the paper work saying it and then the last time they called said if they called again charges would be pressed for false allegations! Well it happened again and they knocked on my door at 1 am. ! Took my girls! Still no proof or pics of the allegations they keep taling about!
I’m a mandatory reporter, an RN. Having seen the damage that CPS has done to my nieces family I would be hard pressed to call CPS anonymously, as that’s the way their personal hell began. Poverty is one of the principal reasons that families become the victims in this system. Instead of putting the monies out to relieve the poverty, find them jobs, or improve their situation with services, the child savers step in and grab the kids. They after all, know how to raise these kids better than anyone else, don’t they!
To “you guys are killing me”, you should really educate yourself, nccpr.org is a GREAT place to start. Follow up by going to You-tube and putting in Nancy Schaefer, CPS corruption, and maybe you’ll get some good information. When anyone person/group is dehumanized it can justify any treatment of them, its happened so many times in the world, it can’t be denied. This isn’t just happening here in the USA either. Many children all over the world are victims of the child savers. Look into the family fighting to get their child returned because they dare to home school him, after all the government knows how to better indoctrinate him don’t they! To, “you guys are killin me” put the shoes of these parents on and walk around, then play judge and jury.
Wow. I have been reading a lot of ppl’s comments, and I would like to add another… (I had posted a while ago)… CPS is still involved in my life. I still do not wish they were involved by any means, however–again, they have almost been a blessing in disguise because they are forcing my husband to get much needed help–help he truly needs and that I have tried for so long to get for him but no one would listen. CPS has not opened a case against me–just my husband. I have done everything that has been asked of me (which, is just honesty… no programs, etc). Honesty is the best policy and I have been lucky to have some really nice caseworkers assigned to my family. They are working to help my husband get the true help he needs, as well as making sure that I am doing okay with the kiddos (which, they assure me over and over again that I am an excellent mom and have nothing to worry about). My caseworkers have been so kind, and I am not worried that they will do anything–my husband is at risk for losing his family but I am not… and, they have told me that and I do believe them.
However, on the flip side… no, I wish they were not involved in my life. I wish my life could go back to the “good” days before my husband got involved in drugs and alcohol and I have always worked hard to make sure my kids are happy, healthy, and well-taken care of. We live in a moderate neighborhood, drive nice vehicles, and have enough money but that doesn’t matter because they are still involved. Make sense? Lol. My point is… it does not matter who you are… if there is a reason to be involved… they will be. Yes, I know ppl do call and place anonymous (lies) to cps for grudges or what not, and I hope those ppl get what they deserve. However, if cps did NOT check out all the calls… then, what if, they ignore the one call that is truly needed and that child is killed or harmed?
I knew a young girl who was in foster care (when I was growing up), and she WAS molested and beat on a daily basis. It was awful. She told everyone and no-one believed her… she ran away multiple times only to be brought back to that awful place… and she was finally able to break free once she turned 18, but it was sad for her. It really destroyed her life, and these ppl are STILL foster parents. I know this for a fact. Very sad. However, there are some amazing foster families out there… but, I think for every case of abuse that is called on… the foster families need to be checked just as much.
Sad, sad, sad. I wish this was a perfect world, and I feel so sad for those who have lost their kiddos for no reason or have had their lives’ flipped upside down by cps–it does happen. But, ppl who do not deserve to have their kids… that is what cps is truly for. :)
Linda,
My live-in boyfriend of 5 years was accused of sexually abusing my teenage daughter over 4 months ago. He moved out per the “safety plan” of CPS and we hired an attorney. The case is STILL in the investigation stage! We have turned over evidence and statments made by my daughter that prove she lied to get him out of the house to our attorney but he did not forward any information to CPS. What should I do? What is the job of my attorney at this point? I don’t want to call CPS myself as the caseworker we have is VERY abusive verbally and entered my home without permission. (She pushed the door open and came in when I cracked the door.) Please advise. I need help to end this terrible nightmare that has lasted 3 months past the state law.
Monica, I believe your attorney may be doing the right thing, as turning anything over to CPS is usually a mistake. They hide exculpatory evidence anyhow. He is probably saving the evidence to present in court if the county takes this that far.
Once CPS has started on a sex abuse witchhunt they usually refuse to believe teenagers that change their minds and claim to have been lying.
You might want to check this out with another attorney. I am not an attorney.
Cps worker shoved her foot in my door as well! How can I get an attorney without the financial means necessary?? She is also trying to force me to take a drug test which has nothing to even do with my case! I’m in pennsylvania. She now knocks on my door pretty much every day!
Kylie, I’ve know people with little money who were able to make an arrangement with a lawyer for representation. Most child dependency lawyers will provide a free initial consultation so they can see if they want to take your case.
First of all I do work for PA CPS. I do not get paid extra for removing children. I actually get paid more to keep a child in the home and work with the family. That gets me alot more hours then throwing them in foster care where i see them once a month. Hell if i keep them in home i can bank in time every week with the family. And i make more money doing that then i do placing a child.
Before you go makng accusations about how satan like us caseworkers are, you should think about what you are saying verses what i am saying.
We are a very low paid job. If it was easier to make all of this money that you speak of and people would retain their jobs. But in this field they don’t. Because they burn out. And they do not burn out from our “clients” they burn out from ppl like you who constantly make them feel like crap for doinjg a job none of you would be able to handle. Every day we go to work and have to deal with the entire community’s problems, and then we go home to deal with ours and then we have to dela with people like you. If you think you can do it so much better, instead of fighting the system go work in it for a while.
The only thing I agree with you on is lying. Something you harp alot about. I do not lie to my clients, my employer or anyone else f that matter. You fail to mention how many children we save every day. OH thats right you would not know about those kids because they grow up to be a reponsible member of their community and live their lives. You don’t read about them doing drugs or having CPS in their lives because they did well. Why don’t you look up those statistics. If it was to be looked up maybe you would see things a littledifferently. Step out of your box for a minute. Not every caseworker is a bad person. Not every foster parent is an abuser. And not every family is involved with CPS. I’m just saying.
That is why you guys get compensation pay. for a normal child you get 4 to six thousand dollars to keep them and one that has problems is 6 to 8 thousand. dear, not saying you are bad ya all get trained to lie and believe. I’ve done all my leg work on this and prolly have papers I shouldn’t have. I have them though so please enlighten me.
PW – So true. Child protective services social workers usually have no idea how deep the corruption goes, and what they’re really working for. They just do what they’re told, to preserve their jobs… and they get the brainwashing to believe they’re God’s gift to children.
I’m experiencing a worker who is fabricating and lying and turning words around making me look like a bad guy she brainwashing my kids and stopping my visits but never talks about how late my baby mother is or never talks about how she didn’t make it.
80 percent of her accusations are lies. cps runs with it anyway. if yah cant keep the feds fundings going yah wont get paid and yah wont get paid if we don’t pay them taxes, it would be less jobs.
Stop lying and let families be… judging is gods job. People can fix there own problems. We was born with free will. let us make our own mistakes there for let us correct our own mistakes.
Who knows thy self better then your self. Who knows thy heart better then your self. Who knows your intentions better then your self. Who brought them kids here. who suffers a struggle.
let parents earn their blessings. Conduct there own way to fix their wrongs. How are we free if we being made to do things we don’t want to do. How we have free choice if we told what to do.
Leave people alone. We can govern our self. Do i have the right to tell you how you should raise your child….
Lying is the devil’s work. manipulation is the devil’s work.
Everyone has there own way of raising there child. Its like a finger print that separates people because every finger print is unique. every heart and every mindset is like a finger print. Can only be judged by its creator and that damn sure ain’t the judges, government or cps job.
Be free, be sovereign. Love, care
Tony, I agree – many Child Protective Services social workers lie to be able to win their cases in court, and lying is a sign that they’re doing the devil’s work. They are brainwashed to think they’re doing the kids a favor but studies have proven that the long-range outcomes for these children are better when left with families even though social workers think they are marginal.
80% of reports are false! cps has blocked me from a very good friend and a almost daughter whose son/father was murdered march of 2015. i am more like a mother to this child ( who calls me “amom”) she has very bad nights missing her father and her grandmother and myself are the only ones besides my 14 yr old daughter who are here for these midnight, 3 hour crying spells begging for her father back!
her mother is trying coercion, blackmail and intimidation of a witness! they say put me and my husband out of our small camper which is ours and about 3/4 a acre of land she granted me (notorized paper) that;s my home! social worker also forbid me or my husband to be in my friends home even if kids are not there! …
i had spent 511.00 on food and was told i was not allowed in the home which we stored and cooked our food! my daughter stays in my friends home with her bf at nights to help with them panic attacks and crying spells her 13 yr old friend has! her mother was told by her that i was more of a mother than her and she was a monster!
i was threatened on dec 16, 2015 and dec 21,2015 that my daughter would be gone if the custody case was not granted or dropped by grandmother who has had kids for 5-6 yrs due to the mothers drug use and her trafficking charges!!
i have been blocked on cooking my food, eating my food, taking a shower, and washing my clothes! i feel like i am in jail or prison and am not allowed much contact with a very good friend! also to pay our electric and water usage i helped clean, wash clothes and cook. my husband also does handyman work for it! i have been asked to take a drug test (which i honestly do not have money for, however i did offer that if they pay i would go!) makes sense that if a call came in i was prostituting my 14 yr old for pot no less and all we do is drugs….
my daughter was hurt emotionally by this anonymous/fake report, she cried bc of the accusation and offered herself to go be tested to see if she was a virgin! i asked cps to leave, they ruined my lowsy 1 hr visit with my 9 yr old with this crap! *** i only get 2 hrs a month with her! ( i took her to dr after her dad had her a wk and she had a tear on her vagina, which she also told teacher about before coming to my home!! i couldnt see her for 5 months due to her father! cps closesd that case but judge ordered it open and family counseling for me and my daughter, which has been over a month and still no counseling!
i am hearing i wont coooperate, but you have to call me and talk to me or if i call you then tell me!! if i am not asked or told what the heck do i do to cooperate!! bs is what half cps is and even my 14 yr old will tell ya a woman who was a workr and is now the secretary put words in her mouth, she also had no case on my then 2 yr old but yet i had limited visitation unless i scr8wed her dad, then i got her every wknd!
when it went to court judge went by me visiting 2 hrs a wk. i told them how he blackmailed me, they did not care! i tried telling them he is illegal in the us, they didnt care! i tried telling them about the 5 allegations of sexual abuse (allegations mind you) they didnt care! he was with a woman for 6-7 yrs and took carer of her oldest daughter who was 14 at the ttime and is now married to his exs daughter the helped raise!!
wheres my rights? where is my daughters rights? tell me that miss sw
Pamela, it sounds like there’s a lot going on there and maybe you’re living with or near people who are hostile to you. I hope that you’re able to live in a more private and peaceful place in the future and that your daughter will be reunited with you. I will pray for you.
CP’s should take your children because you don’t have time for them and you take on the communities problems. Plus having a low paid stressful job.
To “you guys are klllin’ me”:
You asked for sources. I would like to refer you to the web site for the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform, where you will find a wealth of source material. See http://www.nccpr.org.
If you’d like to read my family’s story, you can see my Cause on Facebook” “Getting Child Protection Right.”
Steven
oh & btw my kids live with me and I have been reunited with my oldest daughter
(she searched for me through an agency in her state)
cuz the state wouldn’t help her find me. I can just imagine why!
also b4 anyone gets the wrong Ideals- I support Our troops just not them having to stay overseas when we need them home (counting my husband)
She has her records and mines of what happened to us as kids,teens &adults- I don’t care or even know how she got em all
but she has been faxing them to me for the last few days since the 18th of april 2010.
they can’t stop her/me from suing either.
(they can only try)
To : ” You guys are killin me…”
Ma’am/sir you couldn’t be more wrong either! I was taken from a wonderful home placed in a terrible foster home- where they beat, molested and raped many of US,
I can’t say my mother was there for me like some of yours was or might of been or my daddy either but they gave me to my blood family. that loved us and did their best with the limitations they had, the state should of never taken us away.
I had/have other family counting my grandma&grand daddy who did their best raising me,my older brother and sister and my younger sister and my 2 cousins. almost on their own.
Our house burnt down and this lady(DCF WORKER) came to the shelter to so call “help” asking if I’d like to go home with her, my nana (grandma) sitting behind her shaking her head up & down in a YES motion is why I went with this lady calming to “help”
well her “help” got me raped&molested through out my life, and then when i would say something the STATE’S DCF in HARTFORD would call me a lair and my sisters and some of the other girls that also was abused in those same foster homes/group homes.
DCF or what ever you call them in your state has went out their way to ruin my life&make sure that I as an adult – had no voice to cry help with, I grew up being beating for every little possible thing weather it was in a group home or even in these as you would have people think lovely foster homes.
I have a daughter 18yrs old who was raped and abused as well after the “state” took her from me a so called child abuser whose never touched or hurt 1 hair on any of my 5 kids heads.
NOW as of 4/18/2010 I Come to actually find out this month that they knew I was telling the truth about the foster ppl they placed my oldest with& they was the one(s) not me abusing molesting beating and rapping her and yet my rights were TPR when she was almost 4yrs.
Yet i am sure they didn’t think I’d find that out. yet I lost 18 yrs with my oldest and i even went to prison no not jail for something I never could do to my kids! You say they do not get paid for their services thats a lie-
I know for a fact that not only does the “system/state” get paid,
call it what you will but also that the foster parents get paid for taking care of them and they also get a little extra for adopting these so called troubled kids& kids that are posed to have been abused,
I have papers to prove these facts,
I am not claiming kids teens and some young adult do not need help what I am saying is they need to do a thorough job when trying to figure out what’s what,
You also say we should blame the city government/courts judges attorney (Our own public defenders)
police ETC AND you know what ?
I DO BLAME THEM , like some of these wars we fight it all boils down to money, you need money for everything from the politic of war oil gas etc to the children being snatched outta a loving parent/ guardian arms,
I can speak because I’ve been on both sides of the fence when the state’s claim was pose to be in my best interest to them then saying I wasn’t best for my oldest daughter and allowing their good church going foster ppl to hurt her.
so get it straight before you talk of what you- your self may not know!
I can only speak for me but I will not sit and read ppls BS comments of how the “system” is so great when all i ever wanted was to be a happy kids loved and taken care of im now 32 but think on this:
my daughter is 18 well going to be in less then 3 weeks & im almost 14 yrs older then her so how old do you think i was when i had her?
if you guessed 14 your wrong i was 13 going on 14 and was raped by my foster father… but i never blamed her for it i love her and wanted her from the time i found out i was pregnant with her I do not understand DCF or their selfish Motives,
its a lot of Political BS going on with in the State of Connecticut and many others as well and I am going to SUE them if it cost me my last breath on God’s green Earth.
Thats not a threat- I promised all my kids my momma daddy and grand parents some of them have past on and is in a better place but at what cost did they have to pay to be gone to that better place?
I wont speak on it much anymore because I lost kids because of these ppl & you’ll never understand or ever know the half of what I went through growing up…
I am healed I wont forgive them for what they did to me, I blame them for their mistakes within my life not for my own personal mistakes, Cuz as an Adult I am stronger smater & wiser now plus time has healed a lot of these old wounds lol I also know my rights now and I have not made the mistake of ever trusting the state/”system” again….
But best believe me: I am suing… Because of them & “their” too many of my family & kids who got lost in their “system” and we just some how
Became one of the “many” who’ve fell through the cracks of a system that just isn’t working and to me never has!!
Linda,
I apologize if I hurt your feelings. How about if I called you a “brainwashed evil-doer,” would that insult you?
I get the impression that most of you do not understand, and never will value the good that CPS has to offer. Believe it or not, there are bad people out there. People that like to pour hot oil on babies, starve toddlers, rape daughters and sons, and so on. Let’s hear your suggestion on how we shall deal with this? Are you going to provide parenting classes to make it all better? Oh wait, CPS does that, how evil! Maybe you can pray for the parents that lock their infants in dog crates, or write a nice note to the meth dad who submerges his baby in scalding hot water because she can’t use the toilet on her own…maybe create an educational website such as this to stop parents from mercilessly beating helpless and extremely vulnerable children. That will most likely curb any and all need for CPS in this country.
“Statistics prove that children are more at risk of abuse in foster homes than in their natural family homes.” Show me your source.
“States are receiving BONUS money for increasing the numbers of adoptions from year to year. That’s a fact… since 1996.” Again, source please.
Ken – I get the feeling you are leaving something out here…if any random person asked you to drug test, would you? Doubtful. If a judge told you to? More likely. Right? Linda is right in one sense, you have the right to not talk to a CPS worker, and your common sense should tell you that if you haven’t done anything wrong you should not agree to drug test. Was law enforcement involved? If so there was likely probably cause.
Also Ken, you assume I have no family. Based on what, the fact that I have never been investigated by CPS? Or perhaps because I do not share the same hatred for CPS? Do you even know who I am or anything about my family? Nope.
Final questions Linda, I’m curious, what makes you all “targets” of CPS in the first place? Most people will never have to deal with CPS, and by your (and other people’s) statements/rationale you are all very regular, honest, law abiding, respectful, and honorable people. Since when did Social Services AND Law enforcement, AND the courts start persecuting people like US?
To: “You guys are killin me…”
First respond to the person who just posted, who was raped by her foster father and gave birth at the age of thirteen. Then tell me how safe you believe children are in foster homes.
You wrote: “I apologize if I hurt your feelings.”
No, you didn’t hurt my feelings. I’m almost sixty years old and don’t get my feelings hurt over the trivial nonsense ignorant people write in defense of the evil family destruction bureaucracy. But if you come on this site and say anything in the least bit insulting to the poor, vulnerable, hurting, traumatized families who have been decimated by CPS I will surely call you on it. The thing I see you CPS systemites doing time and again is to find people in difficult life situations and then KICK THEM WHILE THEY’RE DOWN. Naturally I find this kind of BULLY MENTALITY sickening and will not allow you to indulge while you’re commenting on this site.
You wrote: “People that like to pour hot oil on babies, starve toddlers, rape daughters and sons, and so on. Let’s hear your suggestion on how we shall deal with this?”
REAL child abuse is a crime and perpetrators can be prosecuted in criminal courtrooms where constitutional rights are honored. What CPS does is far different. CPS courtrooms do not honor constitutional rights, and they usually deal with trivial and subjective accusations (far less than the situations you suggest) that are never brought to criminal courtrooms because there is no evidence that a real crime has been committed.
You wrote: “Statistics prove that children are more at risk of abuse in foster homes than in their natural family homes.” Show me your source.
National statistics are here: Children’s Bureau Statistics and Research
Compare the number of children in the general population to the number of those harmed by parents. Then compare the number of children in foster homes to those harmed by foster parents. The percentage of children harmed in foster care will be higher than the percentage harmed in their natural family homes. Of course you must keep in mind that many states won’t accurately report numbers harmed in foster care, and they over-report incidents in natural family homes because they’re trying to get more kids into foster care and adopted out so they can get that BONUS money you don’t believe they’re getting. But read the next paragraph…
You wrote: “States are receiving BONUS money for increasing the numbers of adoptions from year to year. That’s a fact… since 1996.” Again, source please.
ASFA = The Adoptions and Safe Families Act. Please don’t tell me you work for CPS but don’t know what this is. Here’s the most recent press release from HHS.gov regarding the bonus money: HHS Awards $35 Million to States for Increasing Adoptions.
You wrote: Final questions Linda, I’m curious, what makes you all “targets” of CPS in the first place?
False accusations come from many sources. Check the national statistics. Mandated reporter laws force professionals to report every “suspicion” of child abuse or face job loss and prosecution. Many false reports are called in anonymously by people with grudges. I shouldn’t have to tell you this.
You wrote: Since when did Social Services AND Law enforcement, AND the courts start persecuting people like US?
CAPTA = The Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act – 1974 … ever heard of that one?
If you still think children aren’t harmed in foster care… take a look at these faces of children who died in CPS “care”.
In Memory of Children Who Died in State Custody
Here’s another one in today’s news… Johnny, a disabled child that child protection caseworkers felt compelled to take away from his mother so they could “protect” him … starved to death in foster care. He is not the first child I’ve heard of who starved to death in foster care. This happened in Michigan. I’ve heard of similar cases in other states.
Are you proud to be part of an agency that takes children away from their parents on trivial grounds to place them in foster homes you cannot possibly guarantee are safe for them?
I remember one parent who wrote to me about her 10 year old daughter who was taken from her because of a small unexplainable bruise. This child was molested repeatedly in foster care. Her mother found out because the child developed herpes blisters all around her mouth. So are you proud of being a CPS worker? It was a CPS worker who removed this child from the safety of a loving mother and father because they couldn’t honestly say where an eraser-sized bruise came from. This was a TEN YEAR OLD GIRL! Child ‘protective’ services didn’t protect her. They ABUSED her by separating her from her family and placing her in an unsafe situation.
Do you realize that pedophiles like to get jobs where they can have unrestricted access to other people’s children? Jobs like “foster parent”? A few years back I read an article about a man who disguised himself as a woman to become a foster parent who molested little boys. Most pedophile fosterers don’t bother to disguise themselves and get access to children anyway.
A few years ago there was a Frontline two-part series about the death of a child in foster care, Logan Marrs – killed by a CPS social worker who wanted to adopt her. One part of the program featured a former foster child, Rose Garland. Her statement is worth paying attention to: “OK. Now, I know that there are good foster families out there, OK? But I also know that every foster kid that I have ever talked to, including myself, have been abused in foster homes. And I’m talking physically, emotionally and sexually. That may not be the case for every child, but it was the case for me.”
So, anonymous person afraid to post your real name, I don’t care if you don’t respect what I’m trying to do with this site. I have my reasons for trying to help these families reunite.
I need you in my life Linda Martin.
To “You guys are killin me…”
My ex wife got involved with CPS because of false allegations of child abuse. They saw her house, nothing wrong. Saw the child, nothing wrong. Gave her a drug test, tested positive for marijuana. So she decided to give him to me, temporarily, until she completed the service plan. CPS would not let me have him either. I have a perfectly clean criminal record and have never used a drug before in my life. My home was approved, and they saw that my child is healthy and unharmed. But they still will not let him live with me. Now tell me how I deserve for this to happen to me? I have not done anything, and my child was taken from my home. They even admit I have not done anything. Why don’t you try having your own children and come back in a few years and claim the same thing.
You guys are ridiculous. CPS workers have the incredibly daunting job of working with people who generally cannot help themselves, let alone their children. If you think that for one second it is an evil and unnecessary agency, try and imagine where all those kids would be without it. Of course you people didn’t do anything wrong…none of the clients ever do, right? News flash people!!! People beat children, they do drugs, drink, lie, cheat, and steal all the time. So before you cry about how you were “victimized,” consider the good work that CPS carries out every day. Boo hoo, so you got reported. If the report goes unsubstantiated, which it will if you truly are innocent of any wrong doing, then it’s over.
And to those of you who think CPS is mandated to take a certain number of kids away as a quota, you could not be anymore wrong. Consider the financial implications here: how much does it cost you to take care of a child? Now, how much do you think it would cost your state to provide care for the child? Foster care expenses, health care, therapy, education, etc…this all adds up, and I promise you that with this economy, no state wants the added burden of caring for the child that you fail to care for.
You think that just because you are involved in the system, that every other parent is like you? Well, you very well may be “parent-of-the-year material,” but I promise you are rare. Most parents involved with the system who have lost their children have problems. Simple. If you disagree with that then you are just plain ignorant. Just look at the people we throw in jail/prison. Yes, druggies, murderers, and rapists have children. These are the people we work with everyday.
Previous poster “something to ponder” said it perfectly…if you are going to attack CPS workers, prepare to say the same about the courts, judges, police, District attorneys, and the like, as they all work together to make the system work.
To “You guys are killin me…”
You’re apparently prejudiced, brainwashed, and have written a series of false assumptions about people you don’t know as well as misunderstandings of how CPS is funded.
You wrote:
1. “You guys are ridiculous.”
This is the type of insult I ban people from the site for.
2. “CPS workers have the incredibly daunting job of working with people who generally cannot help themselves, let alone their children.”
You don’t know these people. You’ve just pre-judged everyone who has ever been approached by a CPS worker.
3. “If you think that for one second it is an evil and unnecessary agency, try and imagine where all those kids would be without it.”
Many would be home safe with loving parents instead of being abused in foster homes by strangers. Statistics prove that children are more at risk of abuse in foster homes than in their natural family homes.
4. “Boo hoo, so you got reported. If the report goes unsubstantiated, which it will if you truly are innocent of any wrong doing, then it’s over.”
No, it isn’t over when many SS caseworkers pursue false accusations and lie in court reports. It isn’t over when your name is forever after included on a blacklist called the ‘central index’ that prevents you from working in a wide variety of careers.
5. “And to those of you who think CPS is mandated to take a certain number of kids away as a quota, you could not be anymore wrong.”
States are receiving BONUS money for increasing the numbers of adoptions from year to year. That’s a fact… since 1996.
6. “Foster care expenses, health care, therapy, education, etc…this all adds up, and I promise you that with this economy, no state wants the added burden of caring for the child that you fail to care for.”
All the “expenses” are REIMBURSED from federal funds including the SOCIAL SECURITY fund. There’s no expense to the state when the federal funding streams are in place. This is a way for states and counties to get their hands on federal funds, to bolster local economies.
7. “Most parents involved with the system who have lost their children have problems.”
EVERYONE has problems – but that doesn’t mean that we should tear families apart. A SS worker can go into any home and find imperfections, then magnify them and misinterpret them to make the parents look bad and take the children out of the home.
8. “These are the people we work with everyday.”
So you’re one of the brainwashed evil-doers. Thanks for showing your true prejudiced and brainwashed colors.
Any more insults from you will result in the banning of your IP number.
Obviously you are a cps worker which means you bling over young lives, not caring what happens to the children only thinking of the pay$$ most caseworkers don’t have children of their own so all they see is funding.. get your stories right lady, your overlying corrupted bull
CPS accused me of starving my 4 year old daughter while she was in the hospital for the flu. She had always been small due to her low birth weight of 1 lb 4 oz. The records of her birth were in the same hospital where she was being treated. I knew some of the doctors that worked there and they all were very supportive due to the fact that they knew our family very well because when she was born I stayed at Macdonald house for nearly a year when my daughter was first born. The CPS workers ARE the police and they will treat you like a criminal. I kept thinking “how could this happen to me?” I followed every step int the book. My child was and still is a special needs child. She lost weight due to her illness and it was turned around to make it seem like I was “starving” her. Long story short: I ended up fleeing the state and making a new life for us in another state (very costly). I gave up everything I owned to keep my children with me. Does this sound like the words of an abuser? My condo that I owned, my car, animals, furniture, clothes and left with my kids and the clothes on my back in the middle of the night on a 15 hr plane flight to our journey to a new life. We are happy now and have been for the past four years that we left our beautiful home state of Hawaii. I will never be the same mentally and have been hospitalized for depression from all of the stress that they caused me. I still have nightmares and have been on SSI for mental illness since then. But at least we are together. I will never be the same person that I was. I will never smile again, I take seven different medications for depression. I have eating disorders and the icing on the cake is the fact that later that same year a couple sued CPS for 50 million dollars for yet another false accusation of child abuse. After reading that I literally vomited for 7 hrs strait and had to be hospitalized for dehydration. Thanks to CPS Hawaii, they have successfully destroyed my mind and the children are worse off now because their mother is a nervous over medicated wreck. I need pills for nausea, stress, depression, OCD and a skin condition caused by stress, anorexia and bulimia. I did not have the money that this couple had so I could not afford a private attorney, However I did document everything and still have the journal that I carried with me the whole time that this was going on. I never was compensated for my stress and time, energy ect. but now the state is paying me SSI to be able to live and my disabled child receives a check as well so now we are being supported by the government. I try to look at that as compensation but it just is not enough. Nothing will be enough. Nothing, no amount of money can give me back my life and give the children back their mother that they once knew as always being happy. Now they end up paying for it in the long run because they will be orphans soon. My health is very poor from all of this drama. They need to know of the damages they do upon making false accusations. That’s all. Thank you,
Elizabeth
If CPS is so evil- judges, commissioners, public defenders, police officers, and attorney generals must be evil too because they are the ONLY ones that can actually order to have a child removed from their home. It is NOT only up to the CPS investigator-everything has to be hashed out in court (unless ordered by the police) before any action is taken.
Hello you ….. they are all corrupt
If you are an employee of any state agency then you are on the side of the evil one. Separation of church and state means exactly what it says. The two can not be united according to man’s law and most important God’s Law. Jesus said he who is not for us is against us. And if state law requires a separation from the church it’s not hard to figure out who’s side you chose. I am well aware that good people are employed by the agency but they do not operate under the authority of God because the state plainly states the separation. Jesus says, No man can serve two masters. Man’s law also recognizes this fact. If you are a Christian, and feel that you are helping please consider who u are employed under. Satan uses many disguises. If I had to work for anyone who said I couldn’t use my faith to make decisions or couldn’t openly speak of my Lord Jesus Christ while employed by them it would be a very easy decision for me who to side with. God be with you and with anyone dealing with the evil which is that STATE.
I cannot stand the ignorance of people today. I live in the lone star state so for some strange reason i beat my kids. Or that is what cps would like you to believe. Me and my girlfriend live toghter share bills and of course fight and argue. Though it was never violent someone called and said i was i addicted to morphine i hit her and beat my kids i was bi-polar etc…. They have ruled out i beat or even hit my kids but unforntualy the stress of losing our children was to much she has left me stating it was my fault. I have been recently diganosed with kidney faliure she wont even call because cps said if she did she would lose our kids. CPS ARE CROOKS AND WILL RUIN YOUR LIVES. I want everyone now to know of the harm they cause your family. I have lost the loves of my life my kids for know and girlfriend probably forever dont let this happen to you.
a note: I really do not want to give up, but due to a PDD/NOS (autism) diagnosis I have been really discouraged, even though I have not by any chance done anything that pointed to harming her, even in the hospital prior to them making their move. All I had shown was compassion and love towards her and even did something that their documents said I cannot do, detect when she wants to eat. Please, let me know, is their allogation of me having autism really a threat to her?
I deal with a very strange delema here. On one side of the coin I want to do what is best for my child which they took from me at the hospital and they took a lot of things out of context due to me being too stupid to not look here before she was born and going down to their agency directly by being bated into them by case managers of some place unrelated to them and a health department nurse. I ask should I just give up and file Form TPR-12 now? I really do not know how she will take such a long case and live 3 blocks away from the district court.
My son is 16 and has bipolar, adhd OCD and is a severe behavioral problem. Sunday night he was obsessing over selling doughnuts at school. I told him to stop being greedy and obsessed and get to bed. He was so obsessed that I made the mistake of handing him his nightly meds and telling him to go to bed. He took them, and then two minutes later came screaming in my room that he forgot he had already taken them. I am a careful parent and made the mistake of then calling poison control. They told me to take him tot he ER. Poison control and I both agreed that I should first call his physician to see if a double dose is that dangerous. I then called the physician after hours line which proved to be my fatal error. The person answering the phone was not a professional, doctor or even a therapist. She refused to allow me to talk to a doctor on call and claimed there was no such thing with this doctor’s office. I insisted that she let me talk to one. she held firm. I told her of the situation. She preteneded to put me on hold and speak to a “supervisor” She then told me that I had to take him to the ER or she would call the police. I was angry and hung up on her. She phoned the ER and told them that I was a child abuser who was refusing to take her child in for treatment and told them that I had hung up on poison control. When I arrived the ER, I told my son before he got in that he was going to be paying for the 150 dollar charge because it was his own fault that he took too much. He looked at me and told me in his hateful way “You will pay for this one way or another. I will make you pay physically or in some way you will pay for this.” I thought nothing of his threat and let him go ahead to check in while I finished parking the car. when I got in I was teated strangely. I had a door slammed in my face as I attempted to enter where my son was. I then sat in the waiting room. A nurse came over and asked me to sign a consent. I told her I felt forced to bring him and just wanted to speak to a doctor. Then, my cell phone rang and it was my husband telling me that the doctor had called and told him that ER was not necessary to just let him sleep it off. I told the ER nurse this and she took me back to the ER doc where I was told that it was too late because it was not a drug overdose case and I would be reported to CPS if I did not sign a consent to treat. I of course was frustrated, not warm and fuzzy but complied. Then I found my son’s room and was greeted rudely and hatefully by him. I then asked the ER doc. if I would be in trouble if I left and went home and waited for his release. He said that would be okay. When I called them at 4 am the next day they told me that I could not pick him up because I was a threat to him. He told them I intentionally overdosed him and drove like a maniac threatening to wreck the car and kill the both of us. My stomache sank. When my husband arrived home, I questioned my son, and he called all the doctors liars. I am now awaiting my arrest or visit from the social service troops. I have four other children and teach school. Fun fun Fun. I am falsely accused and feel so threatened and scared. He claims that he will tell the truth, but wants me to pay him. I am really stuck. If I pay him, that is illegal and won’t do me any good. I refuse to pay him because we didn’t raise our kids to be that distorted and evil. Wish me luck.
Frustrated mom, bipolar children are the great challenge, and yet they are creative and an amazing blessing at the same time. I don’t think you should pay him, but remind him that if his siblings get taken from their home because of a false accusation they are the ones who will lose mom, dad, friends, the neighborhood, their school, pets, everything they hold near and dear… and in foster care they could even lose each other. So if he loves his siblings (and I’m sure he does) he would not wish CPS on them.
Good luck with this… my heart is going out to you..
My mother had cps called on her several times because of my step dad molesting me but cps never showed up my friends mother called cps on him 15 times and not once did they come to save me their so worried about taking children from homes off of false information they wont help those of us who need it the most i spent my child hood getting in trouble so that i would be locked up in juvy because no one would take me out of the home where i was being molested…my friend is being investigated because one of her family members called cps on her because they dont like her boyfriend that time could be spent on helping children being molested, physically or mentally abused i think its very sad
im so sorry, i hate that nothing got done and u didnt get the help needed. my ex was abusive to me and the kids and cops was called many times, but nothing was ever done with him. my husband saved me from it. we get in one disagreement at the wrong place, wrong time, and cops and cps was all over him and im the one who kicked him. none of my kids was a wake none witness anything. we had to do a IA and was getting relesed early, til my daughter got mad at us over not letting her see a boy. she told cps worker a bunch of lies about sexual abuse, neglect, abuse, drugs and alcohol abuse, u name it she said it. she has now said she lied but they wont believe her. we have passed all test and have proved none of it is true. the ones that need it cant get and the ones who dont get in trouble.
Linda: Thanks. After a furthermore research on this issues, its sad that CPS have the power to do this. It’ll be a long road to change CPS/school interview policy.
My roommates has nothing to hide but we all are beyond disgusting by this. I’ve advised my roommates to file a police report and hope with help of tracing who reported will be faced the disciplinary action in court. It’s because we moved out of the culprit’s mother’s house we rented due to not safe house which is very mess.
This, website, is very helpful information!
Is it appropriate for DPSS (California social worker/CPS) stop by my roommate’s children’s elementary school to evaluate/talk with the children AT school before speaking to the parents?
I knew who filed the false report against my roommates. However the question I asked above actually raised red flag on social worker’s action. I’d need to gather all info and the parents’ rights before engaging the legal action agaist the culprit and possibility the social worker, too.
David, while it isn’t ethical (according to how parents see it) this is standard operating procedure for child protective services agents and government-run schools.
If you could file a lawsuit that eventually forced a change in this CPS/school interview policy, you’d be helping thousands of families across the continent.
My son was taken from me and they immediately took him to foster care where he was physically mentally emotionally and I believe sexually abused. After I found bruises on him from a supervised meeting I immediately got on the phone calling caseworkers their supervisors etc. Nobody would call me back they stopped my meetings with my son and everything as if they were hiding something but didnt want to admit they were wrong. My mom had to pay out 7000 to get my son in her custody. It took about two months. My son came home back in diapers couldnt talk and 4 stitches in his forehead. After my case was closed someone actually got fired over the way our case was handled. I think the government is so worried about taking whats precious from us away that they cant even keep track of how well their own people handle the children. Its all about the MONEY!! Luckily I have my lil man back safe and sound but suffers from odd, depression , and they say he is bipolar. He is 7. Any ways, my point is, the government really screwed him up!
Don’t trust them, they are not there to help you. They will lie, cheat and steal. They will falsify your statements, twist your words, and set traps. They have a God complex, Gestapo mentality, and are heavily armed. All this, and in CT, CPS workers, or DCF, do not even have to be Licensed Social Workers!!
Jessika,
Thank you for your last lines of your post. After I saw on CNN about a 4yr old boy that was tortured for 24hrs and died because he went to the bathroom on the couch, I realized I have to help these little ones. I’m sorry for those that were unjustly visited by CPS. Those pp that killed this little angel had been called several times to CPS. It breaks your heart to read the story. I know of someone that they have visited and have not done anything about, there going to now. I saw the marks myself.
Donna, children are ten times more likely to be physically or sexually abused in foster or fost-adopt homes. Think twice before you destroy a child’s life. Do you have any guarantee the child will thank you when he/she ages out of foster care at eighteen after years on forced pharmaceutical drugs to control trauma symptoms, without a clue to where real mom and dad live?
I am currently involved in CPS. A case was opened against my husband, not myself. My husband recently got involved in drugs and heavy drinking, and is an emotional abuser to myself and my kids. CPS is involved through an anonymous tip and through myself because my child’s school asked me to call them before they did. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do, but in a way… it was a blessing in disguise. CPS has made our lives a bit better. They have not taken my children away and will not take away my children. My husband could lose his rights to our kids (to me only). I have followed their safety plan and whatever else they have asked of me to do. My top priority are my children and my husband needs to stand like a man and face his mistakes and his addictions. I have tried in the past to get him help, but no one would listen. However, with CPS involved, my husband is “FORCED” to get the much-needed help. I do not wish they were in my life but I know that I am a good mom and they recognize that too. They have been very honest and open with me, and I have a wonderful caseworker who really is helpful and not against me. This is all up to my husband to get the case closed–assuming he follows through on what he has to do. If not, he will be removed from the home (not the kids), and that will be something he has to live with. This is very hard on my children and myself, as well as my husband coming to terms with what he has done but CPS has not done anything that wasn’t warranted and I believe they are working with me to get this case closed sooner than later. :) I do pray for those who are involved and have no reason to be; and likewise… if you are involved and have reason to be, let it be an eye-opener and start doing what is the “right” thing.
Jennifer wrote:
> CPS caseworkers are real people with demanding jobs that are not looking to make more work for themselves.
It sure would be nice if case workers in New Hampshire would encourage their management to prosecute people who file false reports. My wife has worked with people who had false reports filed from neighbors, children, ex-spouses, and even parents of gymnastic competitors. My favorite case was the neighbor who claimed a man was beating a child over the head – Dad happened to be at a fund raiser for his state senate reelection campaign several towns over.
Instead, DCYF insists that it’s important to investigate all calls no matter what the history and that prosecuting the false reports would discourage valid reports.
In your state, is there any estimate of how much of that 70% of unfounded cases came from false reports?
There are also a number of cases where people (especially police) file reports non-maliciously but the state mandated reporter law provides immunity from prosecution if they file a non-malicious report. However, it leaves them open to prosecution if they don’t file and abuse/neglect is found later.
People who file the CYA reports never hear about the grief caused by the ensuing investigation.
Linda’s site is directed toward GOOD PARENTS who are unfortunately the target of a CPS mentality run AMOCK!
Unfortunately, CPS is NOT able to attract the BEST STUDENTS.
CPS employees are now being tracked by GPS devices, much like on the road truck drivers.
The first and most potent advice we can give is to politely decline to speak to CPS stooges.
One sometimes feels they lack the intelligence to appreciate that every story has many sides, dimensions, and ramifications.
Or they are childless young girls who fail to empathize with the nuances of being a parent.
I used to believe that cps was truly there for the families. Well I found out first hand that all of that is false. Not only does cps love to take the children from homes they will try to put them up for adoption as quickly as possible. When my husband had an affair he had triplets. The mother of the children could not take care of the boy and my husband gained custody. After a parenting plan even no contact orders yes my husband was the victim. He fought for custody of the girls. When he got custody of the girls from their mother. the maternal grandmother was very upset and called police stating there was a meth lab going on at our house. Let me also state I have five children with my husband. The police came and of course there was no lab nor any drugs. because the police were called cps came also. There report no abuse no neglect everything unfounded. Well my husband not knowing what he does now had admitted using when he was with the childrens mother. But no longer uses. We have been fighting for these children for almost a year and a half. My husband has complied with uas he had three drug assessments , parenting classes, which he has completed, weekly visits with the 3 year old. triplets, and they the cps social worker, her supervisor, and the gal have been to our house and said everything looks great. Yet they still want these triplets to go up for adoption. Oh. let me say that my husband watches my 2 and 3 year old daily plus we have a 9, 14, and 18 year old and he is just fine with them. The comment from the cps lawyer was that the only way they would not go up for adoption was for me to divorce my husband and file for a third party adoption. Wow! They defintely are not there for the childrens best interest. My five miss having their 1/2 siblings at our house. Nor the children or I have visits with the children. So I want others to know I once thought they took the children from homes for a reason that was legimate. That is not the facts. So Jennifer I am not saying that cps caseworkers are not real people because they truly are. But they are not looking out for the childrens best interest especially if a false report was made out of anger which is destroying children who need to be at home with their parents and siblings.
What was the outcome. I would have gone to the press
I didnt know Iowa had a press
I wanted to add that I believe these people should be brought up on child abuse charges themselves
MagieC I am so with you! My grand kids were taken away from my daughter (a wonderful mother) they have traumatized the kids and has almost destroyed my daughter. It has been unbelievable. When my daughter called me up and told me her ex called CPS on her I told her she had nothing to worry about. Well I could not have been any more wrong. One of the girls had a black eye, looked really bad. But my daughter told them that the girls were playing in the room so she was not sure what happened. She had questioned the girls and her daughter said, ” sissy did it” but they did not want to go with that.
. So there ya go, kids are gone, it has been a horrible 3 months now the kids need counseling. Wow, well they did not need counseling before. My grand kids are broken now. We were also told me would not put their pictures on face book pages because they weren’t our family anymore they belong to the state.
Dear jennifer,
From your post, I gather that you believe only parents who abuse or neglect their children are drawn into state care through CPS.
You are sadly mistaken. I could direct you to many attorneys and much case law and past and current law suits involving very fit parents who have been dragged into the mire known as CPS.
If you are game, you could take a look. But I venture to say, you are probably not that interested in same.
You would prefer to continue to live with your illusions.
I pity you for your ignorance of what is truly happening within all CPS agencies and the damage these agencies and so-called social workers are doing to families across this nation.
However, your arrogance and the arrogance of those of your ilk will be your downfall; it has already happened and will continue to happen.
CPS caseworkers are real people with demanding jobs that are not looking to make more work for themselves. If you are taking reasonably appropriate care of your children they want out of your life as much as you want them out of your life. Don’t give them a reason for being there in the first place. Don’t lock your kid in your car while you shop, don’t drive your kids around while you’re stoned, don’t carry your baby thru the mall like a purse, don’t leave marks and bruises around their neck, on their buttocks or hand prints across their face and don’t make them sit against a wall for 4 hours without food or drink. Or, perhaps try having normal, healthy relationships with other adults, neighbors, friends and family members and maybe you’ll stop being such a “victim” of false reporting. Upwards of 70% of the cases reported in this state are unfounded. We’d all like it to be 100% but sadly, some people are going to do awful things to and with their kids and CPS is there to try to stop it, help the kids, help the parents and get the family back together.
Jennifer, if it weren’t for all the cases based on trivial issues and false allegations, we would not be complaining. Nobody likes to be lied about in court, and when the lies come from a government employee, it calls for a response such as you’ll find on this website. Traumatizing children and parents is criminal, and CPS workers are too often guilty of doing it unnecessarily.
We don’t need your laundry bag litany of what makes a parent bad. What we need is your promise that you will not destroy families and break hearts and traumatize children for life.
I noticed that you mention not referring them to other contacts such as doctors, teachers, etc.
Remember that government funded schools are the number one reporters. If you have an application for headstart, they tell you you must sign a waiver for medical records. If you read it carefully, it tells you it abides by the “Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act”. This is a trick. The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act grants them the right to share your child’s records with child protective services. Headstart will ask you to sign this waiver which includes all of your child’s medical records since birth, dental records, iron levels, everything. You have a right to medical privacy through HIPAA, but they will try to get you to sign these rights away, often indirectly through schools.
Actually, HIPAA prevents health care providers from sharing information with your family members, but contains a clause to allow county employees access to your private information. Another huge scam to help the government invade your privacy!
Headstart is like an extension of CPS, and has been for years. It is a place for them to be able to keep an eye on your kids, and the employees are trained snitches. Many parents get their kids back with a condition that they must enroll them in Headstart.
Very good article. This needs to be published and given to every household in the U.S. Unfortunately, most people do not visit this site until after they are being investigated but most visitors find this site out of desperation going out of their minds because their children were ripped from their home. Additionally, if more people were aware of how corrupt and terroristic CPS agents and the judicial system is then we’d have a chance to fight. As is stands now, the general consensus is that CPS “saves children”. Until those people get a clue then the rest of us are vulnerable to their attacks.
Sharon, great idea. I will work on turning this into a brochure people can share with others in the public who haven’t found the need for this site yet.
I’ve tried to talk to young mothers about this site but each time I’ve gotten the look of shock and anger that I would even think they might need the information. None of them believe they will ever be confronted by CPS because they consider themselves “good moms” and still believe that CPS only attacks bad parents. So, my information is unwelcome by many, but I think a brochure might be a great idea. I’ve been planning a series of brochures. This could be one of them.