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Child Protective Services laws and agencies are abusive to families and children. This site provides support and information to parents falsely accused of child abuse by Child Protective Services.
FightCPS does not advocate or condone violence or illiegal activities of any kind.
FightCPS is intended to help people learn enough about the law to be able to successfully defend themselves and their families against false accusations using legal documents and strategies that put parents in a stronger position when they go back to court.
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Child Protective Services, CPS, has devastated and destroyed hundreds of thousands of families in America during the last thirty years leaving a trail of broken hearts, broken dreams, and shattered childhoods.
Rather than helping families, government agents have used unconstitutional laws in Juvenile Court to rip children away from their loving parents, break asunder God-given, natural, parent-child bonds, and adopt the children of the grieving out to others who profit financially with large monthly adoption subsidy payments.
Child Protective Services must be stopped! The law that started this, CAPTA, must be repealed. We must work tirelessly to inform the public of this very dangerous travesty of justice. We must keep faith knowing that if there is a God, there is an answer and a way to end this heartache.
Child Protective Services Agents - please come to your senses! Family destruction on false or trivial grounds is wrong, reprehensible, and inhumane.
Fosterers - be aware that for the money you get you are holding much-loved children away from their grieving families while the parents are forced to perform a service plan that is anything but a service to them. I call this hostage holding for the government. This is not kindness - to help misguided government agents destroy family relationships and break loving bonds.
CPS workers and fosterers - I ask that you now let the children of the innocent return to their homes where they are truly valued, adored, and loved by the parents God gave them.
Family rights are God-given rights. And they should not be ignored or postponed. Every moment these loving parents and children spend separated from one another is a torment beyond what anyone should ever have to bear.
It is unworthy of human dignity to allow this terrorism and torture of families to go on without saying something, speaking out, and trying to make a change.
Site mission: To provide information and support for families attacked by Child Protective Services and child welfare agents, especially those families facing false or trivial accusations of child abuse or neglect; and for researchers working to protect natural family rights.
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Fighting Child Protective Services False Accusations
February 1, 2010
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Hi All,
Please sign this wonderfully written petition…It is for our nation as a whole, not necessarily one person or one case, but if we can get reform by standing together as a whole it will surely help us individually. Thanks so much and God Bless…
http://www.rallycongress.com/fight-cps/1448/cps/
I’m Utah rallying like crazy in loving memory of my sister who passed in the middle of her DCFS struggle.
Comment by Ryann Oneida — February 1, 2010 @ 8:09 am
I have been under investigation for three years… the same case. I have been told there is not a parenting problem and that they don’t want to remove my children…. I have six children and I live on a low income… I however have ALWAYS taken care of my children and all of my school age children make excellent grades… My children were very secure and content… UNTIL the never ending questionings at school and three times a week home visits… I was in the bathroom this morning for instance.. when I walked out there was my case worker standing there in my living room… THE ONE TIME I FORGOT TO LOCK MY DOOR!!!!! I’m sick of this and I want it to end… there is alot more to the harassment and I am more than willing to share this… Will someone PLEASE help my family!!!!
Comment by Rebecca — February 1, 2010 @ 10:36 am
Casey-
I agree with Linda jo. Get the heck out of there. Run; don’t walk. Your neighbors can easily cost you the children at this point. No reason is really needed.
It is best to keep CPS out of your life at all cost. You really don’t want to become one of us who has fought for years to get them back.
If I had known then what I know now…kinda things.
It’s 2 years we will never get back, and a loss of bonding that we are still working on each day even 2 1/2 years later.
Get out now. No forwarding address or phone!
Comment by Cheryl — February 1, 2010 @ 11:14 am
What you are doing is a blessing to so many torn apart families. We have a messy situation with cps. My opinion, ones we have had to deal with are the most unprofessional group of people I’ve ever known, right up to mental councelors, district attorneys, who are all ‘friends’. We need someone to talk to, because apparently the state doesn’t care what their offices are doing, as I have contacted the state twice and 2-3 days later our lil angel was taken again. Why? Cause they can. Main reason for my comment is, I see, as in most sites, Wyoming is not listed. We NEED help here, too. Thanks for your time
Comment by Patricia — February 1, 2010 @ 6:16 pm
CPS needs to be watched a lot closer!!These people went to a judge and the next thing i knew i had A child abuse by to many invasive procedures charge????? Guess what 1 year later …. My child had to undergo a major operation to fix an undetected Major birth defect! She also was diagnosed with Sensory problems ect…
They where so worried about messing up my life that they forgot about the little girl murdered in their care shortly after thier stretch with me! I strongly believe they showed extreme prejudice to me and my family because of my mothers history and I believe they have done the same to my sister and now to my brother! PLEASE STOP THESE JERKS!
Comment by Ronda — February 1, 2010 @ 7:11 pm
Ronda, you are correct about CPS. I know my granddaughters will have CPS all over them as they marry and have their own children, which could be within the next 2-4 years for 2 of them.
Because they were taken from their parents and thrown in foster care (until I got them), they are presummed to be quilty of neglect or abuse before they even grow up to adults!!!!
CPS bases this on the old saying that, if a child is abused, they are high risk to become an abuser, that if they were raised by alcholics, they are high risk to become one also.
While I am fully aware that kids raised in this fashion have a higher risk of becoming the same, it is NOT a given they will.
But I am also reminded that just because CPS says they were raised in that fashion, does NOT make it so. Just becasue they were raised in a financially impoverished setting, does NOT mean they were neglected. If family, love and support is present with the basics of life, water, a roof, food and education…then there is NO neglect.
Why CPS seeks to destroy low income families is beyond me. But low income is a target that is so easy to use for their future paychecks!
Comment by Cheryl — February 2, 2010 @ 7:13 am
CPS took my two babies 12/01/09. My son is 17 months now and my daughter is 5 months. My son is developmentally disable and my daughter has brittle bone. We have been waiting the past two months for test results that CPS said they wanted done to rule out abuse! We just found out 01/25/10 that the test was NEVER done! The test was scheduled for 1:45 12/01/09, a fax was sent at 1:49 to release my daughter into foster care, and the test was cancelled at 2:00. Then after we found out that it was never done (2months later) I contacted the doctors to get it reordered and was told I could walk in and have it done anytime, no appointment necessary, when at the same time CPS was telling me it would take 6-8 weeks to get an appointment then another 6-8 weeks for those results, all the while my two babies stuck in foster care! I told CPS that we could just walk in and get the test done whenever…they said NO that their lawyer has to sign off on any tests and that their lawyer won’t because the feel it is an unnecessary test! The only test to rule out abuse and it’s UNNECESSARY!!! I contacted my lawyer and she told me NOT to push for the test because I could look like I was trying to interfer with their investigation! My family thinks I should go to the media for help but I’m afraid it might make things worse…what should I do?
Comment by Nikki — February 2, 2010 @ 8:05 am
I was so glad to find this site and learn that it was not just my imagination or paranoia. I am involved in a case in which they took our kids at least 10 days after an incident. I wish I had found this site sooner because I made the mistake of telling the truth thinking it would help rather then hurt us.
The dcs worker spent at least four hours doing interviews with my wife,my 12 year old daughter and myself while a sheriffs officer was present the whole time. I am guilty for what happened betweeen my wife and I but I never touched or have rarely raised my voice to the kids. The worker wrote a report that was twisted and not what anybody stated. My wife and daughter have told everyone that this is not what was said and this was not what happened. Each time they have been told that they were trying to protect me, I have never asked them to help me and I have never denied what happened and yet they will not listen,what it seems is that now they are cosidered liars by dcs because it’s not what they want to hear. I feel that the worker wrote the report knowing that it would be almost impossible to say it was not true. I feel she knew nobody would listen to my wife after the report was written because of so many incidents where the wife takes it all back to protect the husband. What the worker did in my opinion is use that to benefit her and have a reason to take the kids.
My wife had gone to a shelter for a few days and asked to come home,she spoke to the worker there and also asked my daughter if she wanted to go home and they left. I also feel that this shelter could have explained what might happen if they left and came home at that time and they decided not to because they work together with dcs. Some good things did come out of those few days at this shelter but in the end none of them we have dealt with care about anything but themselves.I know that there are also many that really care and want to help,such as our current foster family.
I have done everything asked of me yet they keep digging,they ask how I make my money,how I payed to get my wife an apartment which we did to help get the kids back. I have told my wife to sign the restraining order they keep pushing,she tells them she does not need it nor does she want it. She tells them that she only would need to tell me to stay away for the sake of the kids and I will. She tells them that they have nobody at this time and rely on me for many things because she is new to this country.We have been together for over 7 years,I would say she knows me fairly well,she knows I made a horrible mistake and want to fix everything.They went in her apartment and without permission started going through the rooms and cabinets,even the police need warrants.They know my wife does not know the system or laws so they just bully her,now she has a private attorney.. My wife is a citizen of Costa Rica and they took away her passport and the kids passports so they could not leave. They said because of my problems I was unable to provide food and medical care which would be impossible for them to know because they never asked anybody. If they would have looked there was more food in the house then they stock at a small market. A few nights before we were at the emergency room until 5 am with our younger daughter which I paid for at that time so how could they say such things without even knowing. They wanted to give my wife bus fare and when she said my husband offered to get me a used car they rolled their eyes and looked at each other. The court gave me 3 visits for 3 hours a week they said 1 hour 1 time.
The new worker asked me if it was because of my schedule and didn’t even know it was her office. She didn’t know we both signed up for the counseling and groups we needed because the worker we reported to never put it in the file. Now they want to drag my son and ex wife into this saying my son could be endanger. They have suggested that I am a drug dealer because I have done fairly well for myself at one time. Now I have no job but have good people as freinds and family that are willing to help me. It is very clear I love my family and they love me and yet they keep digging to find any reason to make this a real nightmare. I made a mistake and am willing to pay for it but my wife and children are only guilty of loving their husband and father. Why are they being punished? They told my wife the adoption papers are ready and if she does not do what they say the process will begin. My wife would die for those kids and I honostley mean that,she would die for those kids before letting something bad happen. Those that say they care have also taken them from a good school system and now have them in a gang infested school that does not care. We are lucky that the family they are with are really good people and do this out of love for children. I could go on and on,these are just some of the things that have already happened in a little over a month. GOing forward myself and my wife will only meet them with our lawyers present and I advised my ex to record anything that is said and also advise them that she and my son have a lawyer. This is a real abuse of power by a bunch of complete idiots that have no idea what each idiot is doing. They send people to groups and counseling that really does nothing except collect money and waste time. Why would nobody research such things if they really cared. Why do they say the goal is to reunite the family and yet they only speak of restraining orders and tell my wife she better stay away from me our else.
I have been very passive up to now because I only cared about getting the kids back which of course is still the most important. I am not that type of person and that was hard because I would really like to let them know what I think and how I feel. I am now going to do all of that but the right way,by using the system that they abuse. Last night I was ready to just walk away from the family I love so that the kids could be with their mom but after finding this site and knowing that it is not just me,I am going to fight. If anybody would like,I will keep you informed as things progress.We will be going to court next week to see if the kids come back to their mom. There is no reason for them not to be returned at this time based on what we have been asked to do.
I told the worker that I want to go to different groups because the ones they first reffered were a complete waste of time.I will go to any group they want but I want to get something out of it and not just go through the motions and waste my time.
One other thing,while the foster parent was signing the 12 year old up for school our 1 and a half year old got a little antsy and started to act up a little. The school worker instantly without spending more thean a half hour in the room suggested the child had a problem and should get help and be medicated. She didn’t know if the childs diaper was dirty,if she was hungry or if she was just bored with this idiot. Thank god the foster parent let this creep have it for even thinking such nonsense. If our children need anything I will make sure they get it. Lets see how some people like when someone starts digging into their lives. Of course if someone were to do something like that it would have to be done legally by a licensed professional that knows the law. It would be interesting to know what kind of perfect life they must lead in order to be such a lowlife rat.These are the people that should be charged with child abuse because they don’t even know when they are really putting a child in danger. It’s a shame because I am sure there are people that do this work from their heart but they are not allowed because of the others that only to it for their wallets.Thank you.
Comment by mike — February 2, 2010 @ 3:14 pm
One more thing I recently learned that the dcs in the area was facing some major budget cuts. I feel that they are using our case to help themselves and not the children. The foster parents have been doing what they do for over 18 years and said that they have never experienced such a case. They said that it is very clear that these children have not been abused and are cared for.They can’t understand why dcs is trying so hard to create a problem.They don’t understand why they are trying so hard to find somebody to say bad things about me.
If anybody has any ideas or suggestions I am open to hearing anything that might help.I am located in Southern California.I did see some of the figures about Ca. on this website and this was one of the reasons I decided to write.Thanks
Comment by mike — February 2, 2010 @ 3:28 pm
My sons girlfriend has 2 children. Her first child was taken from her because at 17 she left it in the car when she went into a store. She then got married and had another child I am not sure why she doesn’t have her 2nd child. He lives with the paternal grandparents. She has supervised visitation. We just found out that she is pregnant! My family is just a worried mess wondering if cps is going to now take this baby or what is going to happen. My son Doesn’t have any children and doesn’t think cps is going to interfere. If she is already in the system won’t they be putting them under the microscope? I am just worried that they are nieve about the whole situation.It is hard to be excited about my first grandchild when I am wondering what kind of mother it is going to have and if it is going to have to be raised by my son alone. Does anyone have any clue as to what cps involvment will be?
Comment by angela — February 2, 2010 @ 8:11 pm
Cheryl, you’re right that the main target is low income families, since they’re usually unable to afford competent legal help. They are sitting ducks… most of them not even aware of what the Bill of Rights says about our rights. And also, very true that they pick on former foster children. They can easily open an old foster care file, pull out negative reports about them as teens, and use those against them in court. It saves lazy caseworkers from having to create a real case against a parent.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 2, 2010 @ 8:16 pm
Nikki, I’d do two things ASAP. (1) file for a state administrative hearing regarding your daughter’s medical test and neglect of her medical care on the part of the caseworkers, and (2) contact your state legislator for help.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 2, 2010 @ 8:22 pm
Mike, if you can afford it, get your own counseling and expert witnesses who will testify on your behalf in court. Also your own psych evaluation. Discuss this with your lawyer, but one thing that really helps is to have plenty of organized evidence (documents) and expert witness testimony. Build yourself a pile of evidence in your favor that overwhelms the county caseworker’s case.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 2, 2010 @ 8:47 pm
Angela, if there’s already been a termination of parental rights, CPS is allowed to walk into the hospital room, take the baby, and not even offer the mom a reunification plan before arranging for an adoption. The fact that your son hasn’t had a TPR may significantly slow down the process.
CPS caseworkers don’t always snatch babies of parents who have already lost babies, but sometimes they do. You might offer to be a guardian for the baby to protect her from CPS. There are instructions for that in the FightCPS Message Board Forum.
Unfortunately many young people don’t want to hear the facts about how CPS can take their children. This young woman, however, should be informed and after all she’s been through, should be wise enough to realize there could be a problem. The law that allows caseworkers to take her future children is called ASFA – the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1996, a federal law.
If they live in the county where these previous babies were taken, they should move away to have this one, and if the doctors aren’t aware of prior TPRs perhaps they can have their baby safely. Unfortunately it could already be part of her medical records — something that would be passed on from one doctor to the next.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 2, 2010 @ 8:56 pm
LindoJo-
After much research in 2007-2008, I found that Federal Law requires reporting agencies, Hospitals and clinics being of those, to run the mothers S/S # upon admittance of labor. This is to verify citizenship status and insurance qualifications, primarily. But…
It is at that point that even an emergency physician would find her prior TPR’s and notify CPS in that county. TPR’s are commonly attached between the S/S # and the Central Index.
Comment by Cheryl — February 3, 2010 @ 7:11 am
I do agree that Angela’s best defense against removal of the newborn, right from the hospital room, is to have a legal guardianship drawn up BEFORE the birth.
If they want to assure that the guardianship is of proper form and not just for medical needs, etc. then go thru a local atty and have the document recorded in that county.
That would make the document MORE than just a medical only document, but a LIFE document.
These are really tough to push aside by CPS unless they can prove abuse by the legal guardian, not the birth mother. Hard to prove upon birth since nobody has cared for a newborn yet. They would have to get a warrant for sure…and it would have to be against the guardian.
Make sure the guardian has the original – recorded document with her upon delivery, to subvert CPS’ efforts.
She should also have the atty name, address and phone # on hand along with a certified copy of the guardianship, to hand ANY officer or SW that shows up, in anticipation of their arrival.
This worked for me some years ago. They COULD NOT get past it!
Comment by Cheryl — February 3, 2010 @ 7:19 am
Lindajo-
Great news!!!! The US District Court came back with a Civil Rights decision and they awarded in our favor on 2 of the 5 counts. They also are allowing an amendended complaiant to correct a couple of defects in the writing of the petition, and they will likely allow those counts to stand, too, since they are the same actions as to the other children already aproved for trial against CPS and the state.
I have a feeling it won’t be much longer before we start getting settlement offers to avoid trial. The media will eat this up if the last award goes thru.
Yeah!!!!!!!!!! For Family Rights!!!!!!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 3, 2010 @ 3:32 pm
Hi I was just wondering if you can give me some kind of insight on this matter or if anyone can thanks.
Hi I live in NY Long Island Nassau County, we my wife and I have a daughter who is 12 going on 13 this year, I got a call the other day from CPS needing to see my daughter due to Excessive Absences from school the school was aware of her problem and still reported us I have DR receipts that covers most absences but not all they told me she has 30 absences and I only have documentation for 15 the other 15 my wife lost her job along with all the health insurance also this is around the same time the governor and senator etc.… was stating if your child is sick make them stay home due to the swine flu outbreak I don’t want to loose my kid she is my life and I will do anything to keep her any help is appreciated I was told by the case worker if I don’t provide enough documents they will take it to court please please anyone help.
Comment by Keith — February 3, 2010 @ 6:07 pm
my six children got ripped from us and no one will give us a straight answer!!!! can you let us know whats going on ??????
Comment by palma — February 3, 2010 @ 8:58 pm
Hi,
I have been accused of abuse as the result of an accident. One child was very unclear and one outright lied because they thought they were trying to help. My children are adopted from Russia, both are being treated for ADHD. Both have trouble with details, and being clear about what they trying to say.
The kicker… the social worker who brought police to my house happens to be doing her dissertation on “Foreign adopted children being treated for ADHD but are really suffering from Post Traumatic Stress and how it’s causing more harm than good” The only reason I know this is because she’s the one who told me.
I am truly afraid for my family. I don’t know what to do. Do I fight back and risk removal of already fragile children? Or do accept what she say’s to avoid harm to my family?
I need help.
Comment by Becky — February 4, 2010 @ 10:11 am
IN AUGUST OF 2009 I SENT A LETTER TO REPRESENTATIVE ROYBAL ALLARD ABOUT BEING VICTIMIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES. IN SEPTEMBER 2009. I RECIVED A LETTER FROM REPRESENTATIVE ROYBAL ALLARD THANKING ME FOR CONTACTING HER OFFICE.,, SHE SAID SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE OF SERVICETO ME BUT SHE DONT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER DCFS.. SHE SAID THAT SHE TOOK THE LIBERTY TO FORWARD MY LETTER TO DCFS. SHE SAID SHE IS CONFIDENT THAT DCFS WILL GIVE MY CASE EVERY POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION AND RESPOND TO ME DIRECTLY. TODAY I SEE ANOTHER PETITON TO SIGH A LETTER GOING TO REPRESENTATIVE ROYBAL ALLARD WHO IS NO HELP TO OUR CAUSE. IF SHE CANT HELP US WHO CAN. I HAVE MADE MANY PHONE CALLD TO DCFS AND SENT MANY LETTERS MY SELF. MY TIME HAS BEEN WASTED FOR 4 YEARS PEOPLE PASSING THE BUCK WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT PLEASE
Comment by patricia — February 4, 2010 @ 1:13 pm
As I read these stories I too am appalled at how people of this country are treated when it comes to their rights as parents. I hate to say this but I hope everyone that works for CPS with ill intentions goes straight to hell or have some type of horrific accident and they end up needing help from one of the people that they messed over. I have had my son taken because I have a SUSPENDED LICENSE. I never knew that I could be deemed neglectful due to the fact that my license got suspended. I was even told that if I was unemployed that could be considered neglect as well. These people have no heart or conscience because if they did they would not try to tear families apart just so they could recieve a profit from the state government. F**k CPS is how I feel and I pray for all the families that are having to deal with CPS trying to ruin their lives!!!
Comment by Kirsten — February 4, 2010 @ 5:27 pm
Cheryl, seems hopeless to give birth without attracting the attention of social workers… unless one goes out of the country or chooses home birth.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 3:30 am
Cheryl, congratulations on your court success!! I very much want to know more about it. Could you write an article for this site about what you did, how and why?
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 3:48 am
Keith, you could compile as much documentation as you can, and write a declaration about the other absences. You can find a sample declaration in the legal document library on this site. If this hasn’t gone to court yet then don’t place any court information at the top of your declaration. Good luck! (Also it would help to have an attorney!!)
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 4:00 am
Palma, read as much as you can because you will be your own best advocate. I knew a single mother who managed to regain custody of her ten children on her own using ideas found on this site. So… don’t give up. Start by keeping a case notebook, writing declarations in your defense, etc. …Also join the message board for more feedback on your case.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 4:07 am
Becky, I cannot tell you what to do. Caseworkers are all different and have different reactions. You’ll have to go with your gut instinct about what’s right for your family. I suggest you get an attorney ASAP to help you through this. Also keep a case notebook and write a declaration to tell your side of the story. Sample declarations here: legal document library.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 4:13 am
Patricia, though it seems they are passing the buck, they are putting pressure on your local child welfare agency. If she doesn’t have jurisdiction over DCFS then who does? She helps make the laws, right? Does your county have a board of supervisors? Who is the supervisor for your district? Contact that person (in writing) and start attending board meetings. You should be able to speak for a few minutes at each meeting.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 5:27 am
Kirsten, that’s indeed a trivial reason for taking your child! I am amazed… this is the first I’ve heard of a child taken due to a suspended license.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 5:31 am
LindaJo-
This is NOT the first instance I’ve heard of with parents charges with abuse for letting a driver’s license lapse, expire or get suspended for whatever reason.
IF the can prove the child was at anytime “riding in the vehicle” with an unlicensed driver, states see that as “Child Endangerment”.
My Ex was stopped for possible DUI many years ago and had our son in the car. He did not know his license had been suspened for failure to pay a small speeding ticket. He lost his DUI case, and the attached or 2nd charge was “child endangerment. But in those days, CPS was very low on the totum pole and did not intervene at all.
Still, that old attachment to the DUI felony, has stopped him from getting gainful employement and many many descent rental homes and apartments. Still, 8 years later, he and his wife are fighting to qualify for adequate living quarters. He just got turned down again last week because of that issue.
“Better” rental properties will generally not rent to anyone with “child endangerment” if they also rent to persons with children occupying the apartment.
Sucks! But true story…..
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2010 @ 7:22 am
Linda jo-
Even a home birth is no guarentee you won’t grab the attention of CPS.
When you use a midwife or nurse, they are required reporters, too. They have to get all your personal info before they render service, just in case the labor turns for the worst and a hospital is needed.
Out of the country is good, but at some point you will likely return. You will search for a new pediatrician. Upon becoming a new client with your personal info on the new patient forms, they are required to run SS#, too. They are required reporters.
Unfortunately, there is little to no way to avoid some CPS worker from finding out somewhere down the road.
One can only pray that when they find out, they do not choose to “act” upon the report.
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2010 @ 8:43 am
Linda Jo-
I will prepare something for your site. I can only give so much detail. ie: what we did, in what order we did it etc.
But since only 2 of the 5 counts of CPS negligence have been ordered “founded upon probability”, so far, I can’t discuss too much of it.
The Federal court did find also that in all 5 counts, civil liberties were violated as per the 4th and 14th amendments. This finding is what allowes our case to survive in court.
We live to fight another day!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2010 @ 8:47 am
C.P.S IS PREJUDICE, THEY ARE RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND THEY DICRIMINATE AGAINST THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AND LATINOS PARENTS AND TAKE OUR CHILDREN LIKE THE SLAVERY DAYS. THEY ALSO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST POOR, LOW INCOME PARENTS, BLACK, MEXICAN, WHITE ETC…… JUST LIKE WHEN MARTIN LUTHER KING MARCHED AND DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO FREE BLACK PEOPLE FROM SLAVERY, THERE WERE ALSO A NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE WHO ALSO JOINED IN THAT MARCH WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING, THEY BECAME TARGETS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IN GOD AND FREEDOM AND THEY MARCHED WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING, C.PS.-DHS-HHS-APS- ARE RACIALLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST OUR PEOPLE AND FAMILIES, THEY ARE TARGETING THIER OWN PEOPLE TO COVER THIER TRACKS, I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN AND I ALSO HAVE WHITE FRIENDS WHOSE CHILDREN WERE TAKEN AND PARENTAL RIGHTS TERMINATED ONLY BECAUSE THEY WERE PARENTS WHO DECIDED TO FIGHT BACK AND STAND UP FOR THIER RIGHTS AND JOINED BLACK CHURCHES AND WAS PUT IN A BLACK NEWS PAPER, THERE ARE SO MANY CHILDREN BEING REMOVED WITHOUT ANY MARKS, BRUISES, WELTS OR ANYTHING, JUST HEARSAY AND FALSE REPORTS, NO ONE DESERVES TO LOSE THIER CHILDREN IN LIFE, UNLESS IT’S DEATH. IF YOU WANT TO SEE SIMILAR ACTS OF CPS-DHS-HHS ABOUT 400 YEARS AGO, GO ORDER THE MOVIE ROOTS. I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE CAN NOT AFFORD ATTORNEYS AND DON’T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT TO DO, MY ADVICE WOULD BE JUST TO PRAY EVERYDAY AND GET INTO THE WORD IMEDIATLLY AND PREPARE YOURSELF FOR BATTLE AND FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILDREN, OUR GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS WILL SOON HAVE TO FACE THE PROBLEMS IN THIER OWN BACK YARD INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT WHATS OUTSIDE THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU WANT TO REACH ME THEN PRAY TO THE HIGHEST JUDGE (GOD), HE WILL HEAR YOUR PRAYERS AND I KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU PARENTS CAN FEEL EACH OTHER PAIN, I AM JUST A SERVENT OF THE LORD AND I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO SOME THINGS FOR MY PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND THIS PLANET, THESE PHAROES AND WICKED PEOPLE WILL RELEASE OUR CHILDREN, OR THEY WILL BE GREATLY PUNISHED BY THE HANDS OF MY FATHER, TOGETHER WE CAN BECOME ONE RACE, AS PARENTS WHO LOVE THIER KIDS AND IN MY FATHERS EYES, WE ARE HIS CREATION AND WE ARE ONE RACE, WE HAVE TO LEARN TO SPEAK THE SAME LAUNGUAGE. (DISCRIMINATION) DISCRIMINATION AGAINST THE FATHERS/MEN AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST THE MOTHERS AND WOMEN WHO STANDS BY HER MAN OR REFUSE TO SEPARATE FROM HER HUSBAND BECAUSE IT WAS GOD WHO JOINED THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE AND FOR THE SINGLE PARENTS WHO GOT THIER KIDS REMOVED, JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU ARE NO LONGER BY YOURSELF, I FIGHT FOR EVERY PARENT, WHITE, YELLOW, BLACK, MEXICAN,. I WOULD ALSO GIVE SOME STRONG ADVICE FOR THE PARENTS THAT HAVE HAD THIER CHILDREN REMOVED FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, PUT DOWN YOUR ANGER, REMOVE THAT FORCE FIELD THAT SEPARATE YOU AND YOUR CO-PARENT AND WORK TOGETHER TO BRING THESE KIDS HOME, YOU HAVE TO HAVE UNITY, DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN, GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.
Comment by THE TRUE BELIEVER — February 5, 2010 @ 9:17 am
Thanks, Cheryl, for all your information (home births, social security numbers, child endangerment due to suspended licenses, etc.) … That’s what really irks me about CPS… that they will take children from their homes when there was never any actual abuse (as in suspended licenses.)
When CPS started I heard about it in a college class called “Child, Family and Community”. At that time (back in the seventies) people were speculating on what it would be like once it got going and everyone expected that they’d only take children with acutal provable abuse. But what it has turned into is atrocious. Children with no abuse being ripped from their families for lots of trivial infractions, tiny unexplained bruises normally found on children, even just to keep children apart from their families as leverage for pending court cases! I’ve heard of so many non-abused children abused by CPS… it just breaks my heart every time I think of it.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 9:00 pm
True believer, it is true that they take children of color at a greater rate – I’ve published a few articles about that over the years. The entire system of CPS has always reminded me of drawings I’ve seen of slave families being broken up by cruel slavemasters. Whether you’re black, Latino, white, whatever, your family’s destruction by evil caseworkers is no better than the slavery days.
By the way, if you type in small letters instead of large ones, it will be easier for people to read what you wrote. For some reason all-capital letters on the computer screen are very hard to read…. and most people consider it ’shouting’.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 5, 2010 @ 9:50 pm
sorry this is a repost but i would like to email chat with anyone going through this now i feel hopeless.
sweetuglygenius[@]aol.com
and this is my story no drug use, alcohol,hits, or sex abuse in involved.
Hello all please pray for me and my 3 kids 2 girls and one special boy
i live in indiana and normally keep things pretty clean. the house was acceptable 2 days prior to their arrival. and i guess hubby let things get out of hand anyways my kids 5,4, 1 I was out of town in ohio to get a new house for them sign a lease etc.. and my aimlessly husband opened the door and allowed cps to come on they were undercover and take pictures of my house etc.
They took the kids over my relative house and said if i clean up they will bring them back i.e work out a plan tomorrow (all this on the phone). I flew back home immediately and cleaned my house etc. stayed up all night.
I have a home on a nice street in ohio and that i just signed a lease and im self employed. My kids love being near me. after i got sick of crying today after they had taken them I picked up my kids school art work at the preschool. all the art pictures were how much they loved mommy. anyways back to point
dcs called that next morning before meeting me in person said they need no more info we will detain them before looking at my spotless house or meeting me. they took them from my relatives house which they were fine for the night and put them in foster care. I have no crime history never even spanked my kids. I would never never hurt them for the world. would never rape them beat them do anything to hurt them.
i didnt meet any case worker until they had already taken them away. I hug and kiss my kids 4xs a day and they love me a lot. they are all i have i spoil them rotten. they are my life and these sick monsters just snatch them away im too sick and tired
heres a kicker where your tax dollars are going the dcs supervisor left a pamphlet and folders for me to look over and in it was confedential case stuff about others and also a copy of the supervisors resume and guess what he majored in recreational therapy ! so that trained so social worker just as a b.s degree in something far from therapeutic. they let any idiot become a baby snatcher.
pray things go my way during court. im taking the money that was for moving expenses to the lawyer i hope shes damn good. please pray they’re all i have ! love s !
Comment by S. gomez — February 6, 2010 @ 12:35 am
I have a hearing with the administrative courts coming up regarding the denial as a kinship care giver for my grand children. I am contemplating if I should bring up at the hearing that I know where the foster parents live even though it is supposed to be a secret. I am asking because dhs states that foster parents are better adoptive placement because the foster parents live in a residential area on several acres of land(they actually live in a rural area on 2 acres not several.) The foster mom is a stay at home mom(she works pat time and we have proof) We also know that they live close to a lake and foster mom sent a letter stating that the four year old learned to ice skate. I am concerned that he may be ice skating on the lake. The children have sustained injuries in the foster home due to lack of supervision. Should I tell cps that I know where the foster parents live or do you think that it would backfire on me and I should just keep quiet about it? My mom found out this information by doing some very intensive research. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Comment by lilypearl — February 6, 2010 @ 4:56 pm
How can a family involved with CPS get a CAPTA review for their case?
Comment by Debra — February 7, 2010 @ 12:32 am
my 14 year old son went to CPS and made all kinds of allegations about me and his mother because we wouldnt let him go see a movie. next thing i know i am getting accused of choking him and depriving him of food, none of which is true, and then they threaten to take my other two kids away. all this because my son is starving for attention and wants to cause conflict. when is CPS going to figure that children lie too?
Comment by marc — February 7, 2010 @ 4:21 am
If I had only seen this site 2 years ago!
Well, I didn’t, and my children are going to be adopted by their foster parents. Although there were no allegations of abuse or neglect, CPS took my children. And, even though I was compliant with the ‘reunification’ plan, the fact that I maintained a relationship with the father of my children and their family (incidentally, no allegations of abuse or neglect either), was enough for the judge to rule against us.
Comment by bobbim — February 7, 2010 @ 8:59 am
CPS becaame EXACTLY what President Ronald Regan said it would become.
He predicted that it would start out as intended but would become nothing more that a legal money-laundrying system within the federal gov’t.
He’d roll over in his grave if he knew he bad it is today. His awful illness, prevented him from realizing so much in his last 10 years of life.
Thank God he didn’t have to KNOW he was so right!
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2010 @ 10:18 am
it is very hard i am a new mother and they just took my 4 month old baby because my mom and the cps and the nurses and hospital who help take care of him said i was drugging him to make him sleep and now they are telling us that we are going to lose custody and we go to court in 14 days from today i am so scared they also say because i am diabetic bad that i am not able to care for him and my mom has been telling the cps and the nurses and who ever else lies about me and the babys father that we dont care about him and that all we do is give him alot of medication to make him sleep and none of that is true and because of that they took our son from us and we might be losing our rights we have no money for a good lawyer and all we have is our faith in god and each other and its hard we need help i am so scared we will never see our baby boy again just because of false accuizations some one please help us god please
Comment by laura — February 8, 2010 @ 7:56 pm
my number is (325)234-6448 any help will be greatly helped i need it we need it were not bad people this is our first baby please some one help please!!!!!!!!!
Comment by laura — February 8, 2010 @ 7:57 pm
Lilypearl, I can’t tell you whether or not it is best for you to tell the caseworker you know where your grandchildren are. You’ll have to go with your gut instinct. I can tell you that if it were my case and I knew the caseworker was lying, I would definitely use the information in an affidavit intended especially to prove that the caseworker is a liar…. and give that to the ALJ (administrative law judge) at the hearing. (Take a copy for the opposition.) Also I’d make a point of listing my concerns for the children’s safety. All this needs to be done in writing for the judge. How would just telling a caseworker benefit you? They take in information, twist it to serve their needs, then use it against you. To hell with them!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 8:59 pm
Debra, I don’t know what a CAPTA review is. Could that be something state-specific? I do know how you can get a state administrative hearing.
I’d like to know more about the CAPTA review – if anyone can fill me in on that.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 9:21 pm
Marc, sometimes they know that the child is lying. And sometimes they know and decide to use those lies against you…
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 9:29 pm
Bobbim, I’m so sorry… this system takes advantage of the uninformed… and sometimes even the informed.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 9:38 pm
Laura, you’re in the right place… learn as much as you can from this site and others like it … also register at the message board for more feedback on your case.
So your MOM is the one feeding these false accusations to the CPS worker? If so, can you prove that your mother has mental problems? Has she seen a psychiatrist? Taken psych meds?
Stay strong and start keeping a daily case notebook on everything that happens in your case, and start writing a declaration to explain everything from your point of view. You can find a sample in the legal document library here on Fight CPS.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 9:56 pm
By the way, Laura, if you mom thinks she’ll get custody she may have a shock coming to her. Lots of grandparents have gone to CPS to try to get custody then been dismayed to find out that going to CPS was the worst thing they ever could possibly have done.
If you get your child back one of the best things you could do for your family is to move as far away as possible from this ‘mom’ as soon as you can. Report-a-holics rarely recover.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 8, 2010 @ 9:58 pm
This is crazy I went to court today and they decided with the cps and retained custody for now. Then used the fact my son as a delay against me. My children are my entire world and if I dont get them back its gonna be a problem. the lady lied under oath and told the court my 4 year old in a diaper. which was a damn lie and i ask my daughter at the visit my older 5 year old. do you wear diapers at home shes like un yes. they are brainwashing her do your sister wear diapers… at mommy house no but at the visit today she was in a diaper..
Comment by S — February 8, 2010 @ 10:03 pm
when this is all over i will move children ou t the country… i will not deal with these monsters again. and the judge agreed with everything they said.. based on reasonable doubt. no hard evidence at all.
Comment by S — February 8, 2010 @ 10:09 pm
Linda Jo makes a good and valid point Laura. MOST grandparents (relatives) who call CPS, DO lose their grandkids to a permenant foster-adopt home.
Judges rarely, rarely issue guardianship to a grandparent or Aunt. They have to assume (under color of law) that it is likely the relative would just give the kids back to the parents after the case is closed.
We were one of the very lucky grandparents that did get guardianship, but with extreme restrictions on parental involvment and the threat of jail time hanging over us at any point anyone made an accusation that we allowed or forced the kids to stay with their parents unless they themselves elected the visitation.
You mother will be very sorry she involved CPS in the end. You should inform her right now of the can of worms she has opened. Maybe, with Godspeed, she can undo even a tiny amount of the damage she has done.
As much as you’d rather just never speak to her again, you really have got to make her understand what she has done and rectify the situation, by working WITH YOU, not against you.
Introduce her to this site!
Comment by Cheryl — February 9, 2010 @ 7:12 am
Hello Everyone, i am going to get straight to the point on this. i grew up my entire life in CPS from the age of 3 to 18. the entire time i was in CPS all it was (and most likely still is) was a control game. not one of those people in any of the shelters, foster homes or any of the places i ended up cared one bit about the kids. while i was in CPS i had several bones broken by the so called staff members that worked at Depelchin Childrens center in Houston, texas. only to find out when i left CPS the way and reasons they restrained us was all wrong and there was nothing i could do about it. but i am a guy.. females have it much worst. Do you truly want to know WHO works at some of these shelters. well i found out sometime after i left just by looking up names of some of the employees i remembered 2 of which are now convicted child sex offenders.. gee i wonder where they had the time to get into that. i mean after all what better place to learn than a building full of kids locked in with no where to go. and yes i have seen it with my own two eyes.. but who is going to believe a kid, right? my own sisters lost thier innocence in places like that and i can imagine if they did how many others did. and i just think it is wrong that kids have to go from loving and caring parents to this and there is nothing the parents can do about it because apparently the US goverment condones this. anyhow.. just thought i would put my insight in not that it matters any.
Comment by J — February 9, 2010 @ 7:14 am
i feel for you all, cps’s around the world have a very twisted view on how parents should behave, yet most of them are parents themselves, and surely should know how hard it is at times to control an unruley teenager…yet time and time again they believe the lies and allegations of kids over their parents without realising they are only doing it for attention, they rip familys apart ruin family members lives, and think they are only doing whats in the best interests of the child, yeah right they seriously need to live in the REAL WORLD, kids will be kids no matter what the cps or others tell them to, what the cps need to be doing it getting to the root causes of why these kids are behaving so badly or making false allegations. kids these days have more POWER than parents and then the cps and the likes wonder why things go wrong at home, maybe it is about time the human rights act, got its act togther and reviewed the situation and gave parents their rights back, maybe then kids could be kept under control without parents being in fear of them reported them falsely every 5 minutes. we would all agree that we do need to protect children from serious harm but seriously when the harm is just being grounded or told off for stealing/smoking then its obvious that it is unfounded. and the kids are just blatently lying to get back at their parents, seriously cps get a grip on reality and stop taking kids away from loving parents and sort out the root problems of the child before serious emotional and mental health issues take over and it is all to late to repair the damage.
Comment by sam — February 9, 2010 @ 3:19 pm
Marc,
You said “my 14 year old son went to CPS and made all kinds of allegations about me and his mother because we wouldnt let him go see a movie. next thing i know i am getting accused of choking him and depriving him of food, none of which is true, and then they threaten to take my other two kids away. all this because my son is starving for attention and wants to cause conflict. when is CPS going to figure that children lie too?”
You need a priavtely retained attorney NOW. Like right now.
Shut and don’t say a word until you have legal counsel.
Gather any and all documents you can from your son’s primary care doctor and his school.
Toss his room; check his email accts.
I know this is hard -it is hard to realize that your son is now your adversary but he is. In the past, this would not have happened but he has CPS “fighting” for him in these modern days.
Please, get an attorney now.
Comment by MaggieC — February 9, 2010 @ 5:20 pm
Miss LindaJoMartin – i have a request can you provide a forum were people can start to gather to maybe start building protest teams against CPS all around the country. Its time for our voices to be heard and to put a stop to CPS and their misconduct. As the new budget cuts all around the country seems to encourage them to hire more CSW and change their policys again to put more children in foster care. They are doing it in los angeles,miami and other states as well all this is going to create more people to get hurt and seperated from their children and more children ending up in adoption. And cps getting stronger we need to start protesting infront of this agencys and infront of the leaders before this recesion cost us more then money.Our familys since this agencys dont want to fire anyone they plan to get more money by putting children in foster care and hireing more CSW in the best interest of children i feel thats just an excuse to hurt more familys and re hire the CSW that were laid off
Comment by EveryoneVsCPS — February 9, 2010 @ 8:51 pm
Linda, you are absolutely correct in stating that grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc think that by calling CPS that they will obtain custody; instead they send the parents, themselves, and most importantly, the children, down a slippery slope.
Never never never involve CPS in your life, never do it.
Comment by MaggieC — February 9, 2010 @ 9:07 pm
Linda, I’m sure you don’t need to hear it, but I want to thank you for your continuous efforts to help families in need. It is unfortunate that many are late at finding helpful and sincere advice. And I urge everyone, regardless of the outcome of their particular crisis, to take what they’ve learned, learn more, and do their best to help prevent other families from becoming victims. The current system is, truly, waging a war on families. Linda, thanks, once again.
Comment by daaronad — February 9, 2010 @ 9:54 pm
Keith (NY)
1. Join the Message Forum here. It will take a couple of days to be approved by Linda Jo.
2. NY state has has a number of groups—some are located in NYC, but their advice pertains to Nassau County, also.
3. What has the school counselor done to work with your teen?
4.Is your child *special needs*?
5. The Web addy of the NYC long established group is http://www.cwop.org
6. The feedback we have gotten from the CT people is that the group has been very helpful to folks.
http://www.cwop.org
Child Welfare Organizing project even has weekly meetings in Bronx and other locations.
Your problem can most likely be easily remedied.
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — February 10, 2010 @ 10:10 am
S, I am so sorry. I hope you didn’t sign any of their paperwork in court! If they don’t have any proof then if it goes to trial they will have to prove the charges.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 10, 2010 @ 9:40 pm
J – Your observation is very much appreciated. You should get together with a TX lawyer and sue the state. Look on the lawyers page here for CPS attorneys in TX.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 10, 2010 @ 10:02 pm
Thanks, Sam… you’re so right that the root cause is not being addressed. Maybe because the root cause of the problem IS CPS.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 10, 2010 @ 10:16 pm
EveryoneVsCPS – There’s an area in the FightCPS Message Board Forum for discussion of activism projects.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 10, 2010 @ 10:25 pm
Daaronad – thanks so much (and of course, you’re very welcome!)
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 10, 2010 @ 10:27 pm
What are parents rights? How do you deal with unruly teens, calling you names, doing bad in school. Threatening you with cps. My wife slapped my 15 year old and they are calling it child abuse. Do we have any rights?
Comment by R — February 11, 2010 @ 8:42 am
it is my mom and i do plan on being away from her our court day is the 17th of this month im so scarred i was told it doesnt matter what i say or do because the hospital and my sons nurses and his grandmother are saying all these lies i could lose him that the judge will side with the cps or my mom and we have no money to affored a good lawyer
Comment by Laura — February 11, 2010 @ 11:48 am
The worker involved in my case believes that we are good people and has offered our family reunification services. My attorney told me to take this and run with it because they rarely offer services to parents who hurt their infants. The doctors continue to say that my son could not have gotten the bruising to his face by it being held while being burped. It is up to the doctors at this point to say it is possible. My husband and I have signed off on our rights to a jury trial. I don’t know what to do now.
Comment by M — February 11, 2010 @ 6:14 pm
R, I answered your question on the other thread as well as I could: Requests for Lawyers. There don’t seem to be any rights for parents to slap their kids these days even when it seems they deserve it.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 11, 2010 @ 8:01 pm
Laura… you will have to be your own advocate. See: Who Will Help Prepare Your CPS Case? … also write your own legal documents. You need a declaration telling YOUR side of the story. Samples here: legal document library. Remember the persons who prevail in juvenile court are those who present “a preponderance of the evidence.” You have no time to waste… get busy writing your legal documents and gather documentary evidence such as declarations from people who know you’re a good mom, your child’s doctor records, photos of your home, etc. …also remember, Laura, that if they convince you to sign any kind of plea in court, you are giving up your right to a trial. Your lawyer may try to get you to do that and you might want to tell that attorney no, that you want a trial.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 11, 2010 @ 8:24 pm
M, I responded to your comment on the prayer page. I think you and your husband have a tough fight ahead of you, that your lawyer didn’t represent you well (he could have demanded a trial, demanded a second doctor examine your child, got expert testimony, etc.)… also think you’re being led down the garden path and won’t know it until they hit you with a TPR trial a year from now. (TPR = Termination of Parental Rights.)
You need to act and act FAST to gather evidence and refute these accusations against you, because they’re unlikely to ever give a child back if they think the parents hit a baby.
Do NOT trust a social worker!!! Many of them are vile liars! Please wake up! Already you’ve been coerced into giving up your right to a trial. I’m so very sorry!!!
I am NOT saying to go get angry at the social worker for deceiving you. No, give her the polite white gloves treatment while in secret, compiling your documentary evidence in your favor.
Discuss your evidence with your lawyer if this person will even bother to talk to you until five minutes before the next court hearing. You may have to write to the lawyer.
Make Your Court Appointed Lawyer Work for YOU
For more feedback on your case, and support while you’re going through this: FightCPS Message Board Forum
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 11, 2010 @ 8:45 pm
LindaJo-
Regarding “R” that slapped her 15 year old. So long as it DOES NOT LEAVE A MARK for more than 5 minutes, it is not legally seen as child abuse, but discipline.
However, at 15, teens have already been given the knowledge that they can call CPS on any little thing, and THEY are believed, a case opened and investigated.
Congrats..Senators and House members of our past and present…you have made it illegal to discipline our kids. So this generation knows they can pretty much run over their parents like a freight train and there is nothing we can do about it!
And people wonder WHY we have raised a generation of gang members, theives, non-believers of God, sinners and liars.
Easy answer. We have made it illegal to discipline AND we have taken God out of school. Kids that want to pray in school, can’t.
We voted the very (*^*^(*&holes) into these positions that made kids the martyrs not parents.
Comment by Cheryl — February 12, 2010 @ 7:36 am
FYI- It was a “slap” about the check of a 13 year old with a potty mouth that caused CPS to remove my grandkids from their parents, send them all over the state to foster care, try to adopt them out and waste almost 2 years of our lives as a family.
But YOU CAN WIN! We did!
Comment by Cheryl — February 12, 2010 @ 7:40 am
Glad to hear that your grandchildren were rescued from the system, Cheryl. So sorry that one well-deserved slap could tear apart a family and destroy peace of mind for two years.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 12, 2010 @ 8:35 am
LindaJo-
The “slap” is what caused CPS to investigate. The kids were told by CW’s that they could tell them about anything they did not “like” about their parents.
Of course, these kids took advantage of it. They told CW’s their parents wouldn’t buy them this that and the other thing, that they wanted a new house to live in. They didn’t like being grounded and missing out on late night parties with their friends. And they really did not think life was fair in that they had chores, when other kids didn’t. That kind of materialistic crap.
THAT is what caused CPS to later remove the kids. The kids whinning about doing chores and such…made them bad parents. CRAP!!!
Thankfully, after years, the judge saw it for what it was. Kids complaining because they could not get everything they wanted.
Comment by Cheryl — February 12, 2010 @ 8:57 am
Cheryl… the caseworker was either evil or poorly trained… perhaps an ignorant, childless person?
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 13, 2010 @ 10:34 pm
Forget about slapping, it is becoming more and more common to get in trouble just for yelling (occasionally). That’s how I lost my 15 year old to CPS, and almost lost my younger child. my teen pushed my buttons, sneak tape recorded me and presented it to his activist-type school therapist, who listened to it without a warrant and presented it to CPS. My kid was removed on a Friday as an ‘emergency’! Emergency? On Monday my husband was dragged into a meeting where he was bullied into “agreeing” that the removal was necessary. I mean, he was demoralized and degraded beyond human reason, or he never would have ‘agreed”. This was even before the court date. If this can happen just for occasional yelling, what is it going to be next? Flicking your eyelashes improperly?
Comment by Bridget — February 14, 2010 @ 5:58 pm
Man I feel for you guys, I get home vists for 2 hours twice a week. supervised visits like a dog. The report said my son as a delay. So its neglect that my son as a delay. he is almost 2 and not walking. What you gonna do repossess all the kids with delays take them to foster care. He is in therapy. So now he is in foster care my son hasnt changed developmentally yet. but because the
childless social worker who met my son for 5 hours said that because hes behind another family could help him developmentally. b*** im waitin. we dont have proof on whats exactly wrng with him it could be genetic.
Comment by S. gomez — February 14, 2010 @ 10:02 pm
She was not married, had no children and was currently in college working on her masters as a Child Physcologist.
All she knew was that If she got married and If she ever had children, that she would raise them a certain way without and kind of discipline other that verbal pyshcology.
Good luck with that, lady!
I dare anyone’s hand not to move from their side when you listen to your child’s foul mouth calling you everyname in the book for 10 minutes or more. Reflexs are uncontrolable. And a slap in the potty mouth is hardly “corporal puniishment” and “immenant danger of death”.
Comment by Cheryl — February 15, 2010 @ 6:56 am
what DCFS has done to me and my son has emotionally wiped me out.for 5 years i didnt have the time to cry. i coudnt think every thing was happening so fast and every one of their actions were very painful. i didnt have a computer or any way to look up california welfare and institution codes and a dcfs worker violated my sons rights and deprived him of phone calls to me after placing him in foster care.. for 26 days the social worker didnt answer her phone. i was going crazy i called every supervisor and no body cared . i would tell them every day its been 2days its been 3 days and i havent seen or heard from my son i want to see my son. for 25 days my 10 year old son . suffered emotionally not knowing what happened to me why wasnt ii there to see him. on the 26th day a dcfs supervisor decided to find out why he has heard my name every day 30 times a day for 25 day,s he told me to call him back after i told him what my social worker had done. he had the social worker in his office i called back and he put me on speaker phone and told me to tell him again what happened. and then he asked the social worker is this true and she said yes. he allowed me to see my son that day. when i finally seen my son he fell to his knees sobbing. and according to welfare and inst. code the social worker is guilty of a misdemeanor. i pray that the lawsuit freedom from abuse is putting together. puts all of dcfs social workers in jail. they are doing the work of the devil and i hope they burn in hell. thank u so much for all the work u do to help us heartbroken parents. god has a special place for u god bless
Comment by patricia — February 15, 2010 @ 9:19 pm
Thanks for telling it like it is, Patricia!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 16, 2010 @ 1:15 pm
I am tired of CSW false reports and accusations against people, this dogs need to be put on a leash people why cant we all reunite in every state ,i am in california and start to protest all around in front of this agencys and at the dependency courts as well as foster care agencys too. people stop being such cowards stand up , dont sign any documents and fight in trial for your children, i am even willing to start a new revolution to change this corrupted system by spending 30 days and 30 nights protesting in front of this agencys with only food and water sleeping outside this agencys in the street if i was to do that would anyone join me!! tell me IS it just me against this agencys or this agencys against the world!
Comment by Fcps — February 17, 2010 @ 5:15 am
I was 6months pregnant with twins and my son was 1 when a social worker called CPS on me. She said my home was “dirty” and that I “couldn’t care for myself due to pregnancy”. Half of this was her misquoting me. The other half was from her judging my apartment that I JUST MOVED IN TO. So, of course it was not put together.
Eventually, they sent me a letter stating I was not abusing my kids and the case could be closed. Unfortunately, the mother of my estranged husband took this as an opportunity to hurt me and told CPS that I was on drugs. That dragged the case out for about 2 years where she became the legal guardian, even though she DID have a history with drugs and I did not. I eventually regained custody but my name was dragged through the mud and I missed out on the first year of my twins’ life. No first steps, no first words, not even allowed to call to speak to them.
A lot of what has been written in reports is false AND I have proof. Yet, somehow they are able to make things up without proof and it remains on record as if it is fact.
Comment by Tara — February 17, 2010 @ 1:13 pm
Fcps, I think protests in front of CPS offices are appropriate… but I find few parents willing to do that, even those who have been through the TPR. Too many just want to put it all behind them, and those with children still are afraid.
There’s a section in the message board for planning activist events.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 17, 2010 @ 9:09 pm
Tara, if they ever attack you again, you can submit your own affidavits so the court will have the facts! I’m so glad you were able to get your twins back. I honestly believe that relatives that would pull something like that deserve to be abandoned.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 17, 2010 @ 9:13 pm
Will this ever end? How long do we have to put up with this? Is anyone listening to us?
Comment by sandy — February 18, 2010 @ 8:29 am
linda I found this website called congress.org news.we can email,call,or write the president,congress,or state, and local goverment based on zip code, this is another place to expose our issues. god bless
Comment by patricia cleary — February 19, 2010 @ 8:20 am
I HATE THE SAYING IN THE BEST INTRESTS OF THE CHILD. SO WAS IT IN THE BEST INTREST OF MY 2 GIRLS TO COME IN AND RIP THEM OUT OF A LOVING HOME? I DONT THINK SO. OR IS IT IN THE BEST INTREST OF THE CHILDREN TO FORCE ALL KINDS OF DRUGS DOWN MY DAUGHTERS THROAT? I DONT THINK SO! AND IS IT IN THE BEST INTREST OF THE CHILDREN TO FORCE THEM TO LIVE WITH PEOPLE THEY DONT WANT TO LIVE WITH OR ARE ABUSIVE? I DONT THINK SO! SO COME ON TELL ME ONE GOOD REASON ITS IN THE BEST INTREST OF THE CHILDREN. DONT HAVE AN ANSWER I DIDNT THINK SO.ITS ALL IN THE BEST INTREST OF CPS AND FAMILY DESTRUCTION COURT AND THE FOSTER PARENTS. ASK MY GIRL WHO IS STILL IN FOSTER CARE IF WHERE SHE IS NOW IS IN HER BEST INTREST I CAN GUARANTEE YOU SHE WOULD SAY NO! BUT THEN AGAIN WHAT CHOICE DOES SHE HAVE? NONE!@@@##$# CPS WILL BE LIKE THEY ARE NOW TILL THE END OF THE WORLD BECAUSE SATAN IS IN CONTROL OF THAT EVIL EMPIRE.
Comment by SCOTT A. — February 19, 2010 @ 9:43 am
Well first things first, my wife and I have been under a CPS case in Texas for about 3 years now. I made a post a while back about our attorneys and I am here to say that I was wrong about both Julie Ketterman and Lea Lehmann. We have been in Trial for termination of parental right since Feb. 11, and court was adjourned with a final decision on Feb. 17. With the brilliant Defense of both Julie and Lea my wife and I won our case and our children were returned and CPS is now out of our lives. I give great thanks to Julie and Lea both for all their efforts in helping us through our legal case and Trial with CPS, if it wasn’t for them my wife and I would not have our children right now.
Thank you Julie and Thank you Lea
The Cox Family
Comment by Travis Cox — February 19, 2010 @ 9:47 am
Sandy, it has to end. It WILL end. But… I don’t know when, or how.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 20, 2010 @ 9:01 pm
Thanks for posting the link to http://www.congress.org – Patricia.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 20, 2010 @ 9:17 pm
Travis, thanks for posting this wonderful news! I’m so happy the TPR was denied!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 20, 2010 @ 9:20 pm
Article: Area residents protest DCFS practices in Moab, plan to file lawsuit by Jeff Richards
Unhappy with the practices of the Utah Division of Child and Family Services, dozens of local residents participated in a protest last Wednesday afternoon, Jan. 6 in front of the Moab DCFS offices at 1165 South U.S. 191.
Toting signs that questioned the fairness of local DCFS case workers, the protesters also collected signatures for a petition asking that a state audit be conducted of the Moab DCFS office’s practices and procedures. Drivers in passing vehicles honked their horns as a show of support.
“It went great,” said Bayley Rogers, who organized the event. “We had over 100 people come throughout the day and we managed to get 132 more signatures on the petition, which brings us right
around the 400 mark.”
According to Rogers, about 20 protesters were on hand at the beginning of the six-hour protest, which began at noon. Numerous others dropped by throughout the afternoon to take turns holding signs on the parking lot and lawn.
“The only response we’ve had is from the family members of some of the case workers,” said Rogers, adding that one apparently angry young man told her and the other the protesters to “get a life.”
Rogers said that the awareness campaign is meant to call attention to what she and others see as abusive practices on the part of local DCFS employees.
Earlier in the week, a small group of parents had gathered at Rogers’ home to plan the protest and to share their experiences, which several people referred to as “horror stories.”
Although several of the attendees did not want their names printed, Charles Pipkin went on record in accusing DCFS workers of trying to protect their livelihood by getting more people in the system and keeping them there. “They need case load to protect their jobs,” Pipkin said. “It doesn’t make sense, but it’s not about sense. It’s about dollars.”
Others at the informal meeting accused local DCFS case workers of inconsistent and arbitrary requirements, overly aggressive tactics, and even bullying and making threats.
“They treat you like you’re guilty until you can prove yourself innocent,” said another man, who said that he’s spent several thousand dollars over the past several months in a fight to keep his children. “It doesn’t matter how many hoops I jump though, it’s never enough,” he said.
“People in this town can’t live in fear,” said Rogers. “I’m just waiting for them to come to my door and take my kids away. That’s why I’m going to make as much noise as I can.”
Local DCFS employees declined comment for this story, but the state’s DCFS spokesperson Elizabeth Sollis, provided an official response to questions posed by The Times-Independent the day after the protest took place.
“The presumption of innocence definitely exists,” Sollis said. “Child safety is our priority and we strive to keep children and families together and in the home whenever possible. Unfortunately, there are times when a child or children must be removed.”
Sollis said it is not true that DCFS removes more children from homes in Moab than in most other areas of the state. “It is my understanding there was speculation that Moab had some of the highest removal rates in the state. This is not accurate,” Sollis said. “The removal rate for Moab is 4.4 percent, the rate for the Eastern Region (Moab’s region) is 4.71 percent, and the rate for the entire state is 4.31 percent. Removal is always a last resort.”
In addition, Sollis said that DCFS workers do not attempt to increase caseloads for any reason. “We strive to protect children and families and provide them the resources and support they need to move forward in their lives independent of DCFS involvement,” she said.
Sollis said that the division welcomes input from the public and does not retaliate against anyone for expressing concerns. Families with concerns about DCFS practices should first talk to their case worker and supervisor, Sollis said. If that does not produce satisfactory results, they should contact the DCFS Constituent Services Specialist at 801-538-4100 or the Office of Child Protection Ombudsman at 801- 538-4589, or file a complaint on-line.
“We are a public agency and share any information we can,” Sollis said. “Due to the sensitive nature of the work we do, we are bound by federal and state confidentiality laws that prevent us to share case-specific information.” She noted that members of the public and the media can submit GRAMA requests for records.
Rogers said she has already compiled her own large file full of information on DCFS and its practices. Rogers added that she is “fed up” with the “emotional maltreatment” she has suffered at the hands of overzealous DCFS workers.
After several years of frustration, Rogers said that she and others have decided to move forward with a class action lawsuit against the state, as well as a civil suit against certain DCFS case workers. Although the suits have not yet been filed, Rogers said she feels that such action is the only thing that will get the state’s attention.
“We are also in the process of forming a foundation to assist people in dealing with DCFS,” said Rogers, inviting concerned residents to call her at 435-790-5083.
you should call her linda
Comment by satan=cps — February 20, 2010 @ 11:09 pm
I have read sites like this all over the net. I am sure it makes you feel better to vent but this is the bottum line. No one believes us we can all talk till we are blue in the face no one believes us. What do you think of when you hear of someone loseing there kids to DYFS? I will tell you what I us to think SCUM BAG. Well that the way the world views us. We are all lieing to save are own ass. Now dont get me wrong I have read some story’s that you can look at and be like what the hell is wrong with you? You shouldnt have a child you shouldnt have a dog. But I know not everyone is lieing. Forget what this is doing to us what is it doing to the kids. So to all the nosey case workers on this site think about this next time a parent pisses you off and you think well I will just prolong the case to get back at them or make up something new. know that you are distorying the kids forget the parents you are distorying babys cause you want to get back at someone that made you mad.
Comment by Hayli — February 21, 2010 @ 6:47 am
I want to let everyone know that I plan to do something about the corruption of CPS on a national level. I do not have children of my own, but CPS took my sister’s triplets away from her after her adopted child told a lie to his grandpa, one in which he’s admitted to lying. There has never been any complaint ever filed with CPS with regards to the triplets.
I am currently writing a book called What Child Protective Services doesn’t want you to know. I am gathering as much information as I can with regards to what they’re doing, and I want to include some personal stories from people who have suffered the nightmare of what CPS has done to them.
100% of all the profits from the sale of my book when it is published will go into a new foundation that will be set up to help put this problem into a national spotlight. We have to stand up and fight together. There is strength in numbers but we have to unite, and we have to fight.
What people don’t understand is that every single family with children is at risk. It only takes one anonymous phone call with a false allegation to turn a families life into a nightmare. If you would like to assist me with your story, or with other things that I may need to know then please email me.
Samantha Masters at texasroadrunner007[@]yahoo.com
Comment by Samantha Masters — February 22, 2010 @ 9:17 am
Good luck with your book project Samantha!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 22, 2010 @ 9:28 am
Angela, you have every right to be concerned about your son’s girlfriend. Once she’s in the system, she is definitely at risk to have her next child taken.
If it were me, I’d make sure that I had my child out of state and used a midwife so they didn’t know where I was or when my child was born. If they ( CPS) asked where the child was, I would tell them it is none of their business. We have got to start fighting back and not letting CPS intimidate us any longer.
Start standing up for our constitutional rights and if we have to, we need to start filing class action lawsuits on a national scale until we gain the attention of national media and law firms who still fight for constitutional rights.
Comment by Samantha Masters — February 22, 2010 @ 9:51 am
What amazes me is that when law enforcement is called to a scene where a child is either getting into trouble or is being disrespectful to people, they want to point the finger at the parents and gripe about how they’re not being disciplined at home.
Then when people are disciplining their children, ( not abusing ), CPS is called in and wants to tell you that you’re not allowed to discipline your child, that you’re abusing them, and then they want to take your children away because they’re getting paid to do this.
When children are being taken away, it’s paying doctors, psychiatrists, lawyers, judges, social workers, and anyone else who benefits. This is nothing more then a money racketeering organization and it needs to be shut down permanently. Every single family is at risk whether they think so or not.
Comment by Samantha Masters — February 22, 2010 @ 9:58 am
Well my wife plead guilty to her charges and the judge incarcerated her today untill her sentcing in may. Her attorney argued that she needed to continue her treatment with her pshcologst and he denied his motion. My lawyer tried to talk me into taking the plea bargin and I was about to throw my life away to do it then I realized I was throwing away the last 6 years that I have sacrificed to this country and I can’t do that with out a fight especially for something I had nothing to do with. The worse was when the state sent them home with my family to the other side of the country the case worker got pissed cause we tried to fight it and keep them here so she told my mom and sister that we we cam home for christmas and my son’s 3rd bday and they didn’t call the cops on us the kids would be removed and the next step would be adopting them out. IT’S TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD AND TELL THEM WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH AND HOLD THE GOVERMENT TO THE STANDERDS OPF THE US CONSITUTION. Stop allowing these CPS workers to constantly violate our rights and the rights of other families.I’m about to get a federal investigation opened on this county to hurt them and take money time and resources away from them and hope that they find somethin wrong with even just one case as long as it helps at least one family that has been torn apart and prevent others from being torn apart by this goverment agency.
Comment by ticked off father — February 22, 2010 @ 10:11 am
can some please tell me how i can post a pic and a story about my son and how cps kidnaped my son from me ?
Comment by Denny — February 22, 2010 @ 2:29 pm
Samantha, I appreciate your comments!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 23, 2010 @ 9:25 am
Ticked off father, I’m glad you’re fighting the false charges. So sorry your wife is incarcerated and the children ripped from their home. I do however breathe a sigh of relief that they are with family, no matter how far away. That’s so much better than being with foster parents and then adopted out to strangers.
I hope your attempt to get a federal investigation started is fruitful, but the bad laws come from the feds and they’ve been resistant to any consideration of changing them. Perhaps the FBI would help… some have said. But doubtful. I like the idea of class action lawsuits but I’ve never seen a successful one on behalf of the families. I have seen successful ones for foster children abused in foster homes.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 23, 2010 @ 9:31 am
Denny, I’ll consider posting stories or articles on the front of the site if …
1) They don’t contain names
2) There’s no self-incriminatory statements
Send to: webmaster at fightcps.com
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 23, 2010 @ 9:39 am
I’m trying to do everything to get something done sofar I have found all the leaders in Va will not help me so I have branched out to the federal level email the DOJ the president and next with me the Attorney general personally and then the vice president and I might send one over to the ACLU see if they want to get involved I plan on showing this state what happenes when you piss off a Marine grunt and mess with the only sacered thing his family
Comment by tickedofffather — February 23, 2010 @ 3:06 pm
Ticked off father, to be HONEST… I tried all those things twenty years ago. Lots of other CPS victims have sent letters to legislators and anyone else they thought might help. The truth is that the US legislators made these laws and they are getting worse, not better, as time goes on.
There’s been a plan to destroy the USA from within for many years now. For example, here’s a list of communist goals from 1963. Almost everything on that list has come to pass in American. On that list you’ll find this: “40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.”
Now consider. That list was created during the Cold War. It was brought before congress in 1963. The first CPS law was passed in 1973. Since then there have been other major Federal child welfare laws making the situation worse for parents.
Do you really think anyone in the Federal government gives a damn what happens to families so long as it isn’t their own? Even if they do care, they aren’t going to help because some other authority is telling them what they can or cannot do.
As I see it the solution is the State Sovereignty Movement. This is because all these Federal child welfare laws are 100% UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The Feds don’t have ANY right to be making laws about child welfare. The reason the states let them get away with it is because the states get MONEY from the Feds for following these unconstitutional laws.
If you want to make an impact, you might try talking to all your state legislators about the State Sovereignty Movement and the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution in relation to child welfare issues.
Hope this helps.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 23, 2010 @ 3:50 pm
Dear linda
my name is laura you gave me advice and told me too rite a declaration but i need more info on how to do that so please i hope to here from u soon
Comment by laura — February 23, 2010 @ 6:13 pm
i agree it really is unconstuitional..
these people need to be stopped.
Comment by s — February 23, 2010 @ 6:46 pm
Linda,
Yes I know all of this but it doesn’t hurt to try and I figure I well do all I can to hurt this state financially where the citizens will be outraged cause they will lose funding for the more important things such as public education( which is a joke it’s turning our youth into useless idiots teaching what the government wants them to) and public safety(once again a joke atleast in this part of VA). But I will not rest until these caseworkers are atleast out of a job I know the one from CPS already wants to quit her job she hates it which is good her eyes were opened up to what she was doing once she had a kid of her own. But where do these people think they can come into someone’s house and insult his family and his wife saying she is a worthless and lousy wife and that was our case workers supervisor then our caseworker since july has been doing everything to get me to divorce my wife and when she found out the two of us had worked out our problems caused by all of this she flipped out on me. They constantly were threatening us to sign papers and using the whole thing about if you don’t sign our papers you won’t see your kids before they get sent across the country even after I told her multiple times we won’t sign any papers without our lawyer. They would also use the fact that my command told me in front of them that I will comply with all of their requests. Someone needs to open there damn eyes and do something the people we have elected to represent our best interests in DC and at the local levels aren’t listening any more it’s time to do something to get their attention. I am almost ashamed to say I defend this country when it’s leaders violate the document I have given the last six years of my life defending they try to discredit. It’s a sad sad day that us as citizens don’t do more to stop them. originally I was going to take the plea deal at the urging of my attorney then he told me to make a list of everything I will be losing due to it to use in my defense at sentencing and as I made the list I was thinking about everything and decided there is no way I can give up all I have sacrificed over the last six years of dedicated service to this country with out a fight and for defending my wife and believing her since I wasn’t present when all of this happened. I’m just completely destroyed that my wife is sitting in jail right now and there is absoultly nothing I can do to help her.
Comment by ticked off father — February 23, 2010 @ 6:50 pm
Linda is correct folks. We just finished up in the Federal Court to answer the constituationality questions regarding the 4th, 10th and 14th amendments in our lawsuit. Aside from 1 dismissed complaint, the other 4 (plus 1 new one we added to the Amended Complaint, ALL made it past the Federal Judge as DES-CPS responsible for violating civil rights as protected by the US Constituation. The 1 we did not get past the judge was wholey based on the authority of the Federal Courts and Government to intervene over “State Sovereightny”.
They did find civil violations of the 14th amendment, more so than the 4th, but allowed both on the basis that there was “probable cause to suspect CPS was negligent” in our case.
I tried letters to evrey legislator and senator I could find, even those NOT within my district. No one would respond. I called every attorney from here to eternity, and only after nearly 140 calls and waiting for each to return my call (only to say they would not get involved), I finally got 1 that was aggressive and hated CPS as much as me. He took it without retainer.
Now, almost 10 months later, ALL those idiot lawyers that said “no way” want a peice of the action. To those lawyers that missed the band wagon….I say F_ _ _ You! If you wouldn’t support us then, I will not support you (with a nice fat check) now!
Comment by Cheryl — February 24, 2010 @ 7:27 am
Hello Linda,
I just wanted to stop by to say thank you for this site and for all your advice. my family was ripped apart In November 2009 because i wouldn’t let the ssw worker in my home without a warrant. The judge ordered that our kids remain in state custody because the school had repeatedly called on us prior to the removal of my kids. But the judge did say that we should have our kids with us so he ordered for them to remain in state custody but to live with us. Well the day we went to get them the ssw said that they received a report of abuse and that we wouldn’t be able to take them home after all. That was crushing news because we were excited to have our kids back and also because we have never abused our kids and it just seemed convenient that “report” was made the same day we were supposed to pick them up. That all happened almost 3 months ago and we are still fighting the abuse allegations in court. they have since been substantiated and we have still not been told what the findings where for the ssw to have substantiated it. The ssw in charge of the abuse investigation never sent us a substantiation notification letter within the 10 working days that we were supposed to have received it. In fact it had been almost a month later when we received a letter from our lawyer. the ssw claimed that she sent it to us by certified mail and it was returned to her so she sent a copy of it to our lawyer(but this was after she admitted in court that she hadn’t sent it yet) the notification was dated for 1/20/10 and our last court date was 2/8/10. The notification did not include any findings like it is supposed to include either. My husband and I just received a letter from our lawyer today telling us that she requested a copy of the envelope or certified letter number from the ssw that she supposedly sent our notification to us in. Basically we have caught the ssw in charge of the abuse allegations in a huge lie that she wont be able weasel herself out of. And I would like to say To anyone who live in the Somerset Kentucky area that our Lawyer was court appointed and she has been doing her job like she is supposed to be….her name is Penny Hines and i strongly urge you to request her if you live in this area…she has been very good!!
Comment by Candace — February 24, 2010 @ 10:13 am
Laura, the sample declarations are in the legal document library here. Just go through the sample and replace everything with your own case information.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 24, 2010 @ 1:21 pm
I’m so glad you were persistent and got the right lawyer, Cheryl!!!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 24, 2010 @ 1:32 pm
I want everybody here to know that many people with CPS entanglements are reporting their cases to Ripoff Report. This company has a great reputation for not giving out your personal information. I have actually named the people who wronged me in my case.
http://www.ripoffreport.com
Comment by Bridget — February 24, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
Tomorrow Dave Wood of Washington Families United will be on kbkw @ 9:10 am.
The call in information : News Talk KBKW 360-533-KBKW
Listening information below, I was able to listen by clicking the link below but you might have to log in, for people in the harbor the station is 1450 am
Christy
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> KBKW live stream on the web (about a 5 min delay makes it hard to phone
> in and get in on the topic at hand)
> http://amber.streamguys.com:5370/listen.pls
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> I had to register and log in to see the “Red Radio (Listen Live) box”
Comment by Christy — February 24, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
i would like to speak to anyone going through a cps case this has truly destroyed my world my daughter has been missing vists cuz shes sick and never got sick with me. i have to attend a wedding this weekend and will be the only bridesmaid without joy. some people here i bet are sw’s
Comment by s — February 24, 2010 @ 11:11 pm
Riport this CSW and DCFS Misconduct to your Local District ATTORNEYS OFFICE! THEIR INTEGRITY UNIT they will investigate. Dont be afraid as DA office are loosing their jobs they need cases so there you go! try wetip.com as well to report this illegal actions against you and your family. Play their same game as DCFS does wetip.com you dont have to give your name or adress or phone and you can remain anonymus and report any type of abuse or illegal actions by anyone including DCFS and their CSW.
Comment by satan=cps — February 25, 2010 @ 1:39 am
ooh and wetip. com they will send the report to all the agencys that could investigate that the type of crime could apply to . so thats a good way to fight against this monsters since if u go to a police station they wont even listen to you but wetip will get them involved for sure and they will have to investigate
Comment by satan=cps — February 25, 2010 @ 1:41 am
miss LindaJoMartin you should consider encouraging people to use wetip. com to report any type of illegal conduct by DCFS And CPS and their CSW as well wetip. com will send the report to all sorts of law enforcement agencys and they will investigate the allegations all with out the caller being retaliated or even having to give his name all annonymus. thats a good way to start exposing this corrupted system and their corrupted employees
Comment by satan=cps — February 25, 2010 @ 1:51 am
Cheryl-
Can I get more info on your case I recall awhile back someone sent me an email regarding an US Supreme Court case that was based on the Consittutional rights of parents but I can’t find the case or the email with that case email. Just so I can go over the judge’s opinions and the case findings to help with my case. My inlaws who are enraged by all of this are going to contact every politician in Oregon once they return home this weekend since they are more willing to help then the ones from this state. Also I’m trying to fight to get my wife released until her sentencing due to the fact the jail won’t let her take the one medicine she needs to take due to them classifing it as a sleep aid and it’s a med you can’t just stop cold turkey and she has been with out it since sunday night. As far as my case goes I finally put a spark of optimism into my Attorney again so but he is still trying to get be to plead guilty to something I was not home while it happened the only thing that is hurting me is they said a infant can’t lose that amount 8 lbs in two weeks which is a crock of bull cause she has lost 4 lbs in one day when she got the roto virus after all of this had happened so they have the alleged neglect dating all the way back to the day she was born.
Comment by ticked off father — February 25, 2010 @ 5:52 am
I was searching for families who have been or are in the same situation that I am/was in. I wrote a blog this morning about my situation it can be found at the website listed. My situation may be hopeless, but I just can’t let go…
Comment by Angie — February 25, 2010 @ 7:16 am
Linda,
I just KNOW we are going to win thing suit…in my heart. We have been getting letters for months, from “suit funding companies” offering to pay us off right now for hundreds of thousands, IF we will sign over our suit/settlement to them, whenever it gets done and for whatever amount is awarded.
NOT!!! I’m in finance / law. I know how these things work. If they are offering $500K, your suit is likely to produce $5M and they want the profit of $4.5M. SO they offer to hand you cash right now if you’ll sign over your award.
Think about it. They are offering a lot of cash. They would not even make the offer or take the risk unless the case IS an absolute winner for big bucks!
I have patience. I can wait this out. Then I can take care of every child and grandchild…forever!
WE HAVE WON THE BATTLES THUS FAR, AND WE WILL WIN THE WAR!
Comment by Cheryl — February 25, 2010 @ 8:14 am
Thanks, Bridget… I took a look at the Ripoff Report. Fascinating!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:06 am
Thanks for the heads-up on that TV show, Christy. It is at times like this that I wish I had TV reception.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:06 am
S… so sorry you’re hurting. I well-know the depression of going through a CPS case. I wish this terrible feeling could be placed on the guilty social workers instead. Maybe someday it will be; they need to know what they did was wrong, and why.
Whenever you miss a visit because your daughter is sick, fill out a visitation report and send it to the caseworker and keep a copy for your files. Visitation report forms are in the legal document library. You should have one for EVERY visit whether it happens or not.
NEVER EVER miss a visit for any reason……….. they will hold it against you in court!!! However they are very ambivalent when it comes to THEM not allowing a visit. Tell them you want to see your child, sick or not! For all you know they could be hiding abuse (visible bruises) from you!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:14 am
To: satan=cps (agreed) … Thanks so much for the tip about wetip.com and reporting CPS false allegations and institutional abuse to the local DA’s office!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:22 am
ticked off father – your attorney wants you to plead guilty so he won’t have to go to all the trouble of a trial. He’s probably a lazy-good-for-nothing-court-appointed-attorney.
Make Your Court Appointed Lawyer Work for YOU
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:28 am
Angie… so glad you found us. You are NOT ALONE ANYMORE!!!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:29 am
Cheryl, I have great hope that your case is a winner! When you do win, please write an article about it for this site! (and send to me at webmaster at fightcps.com)
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 25, 2010 @ 10:31 am
for all of you who need hope, or feel desperate because of how the system has taken your children unjustly i promise you will be avenged. i hope that everyone finds me so they will finally know peace. eternal love and God bless you all. please visit my page and look very closely at Who I Am. http://www.myspace.com/mrs.angel
Comment by Juliette Angel — February 25, 2010 @ 12:30 pm
he’s a decent attorney it’s just that the prosecution is using the pictures against me our expert witness said it although I was gone for two weeks I was still around enough to have made a difference. But I got a secret weapon that since I’m sure this site gets looked at by them people we are fighting I won’t discuss that part but I will be golden at my trial and then well I will let the fun begin before I leave to go back to the Pacific Northwest where people know how to mind their own buisness.
Comment by ticked off father — February 25, 2010 @ 7:37 pm
Cheryl, not only am I pleased for you and your family but, please God (old Irish expression), should you win, your case will become case law and so will potentially help so many others.
Godspeed to you and yours. Stay strong and keep fighting.
Comment by MaggieC — February 25, 2010 @ 8:17 pm
MaggieC-
Thanks! I pray it becomes a new president in case law that many ca use to end the oppression on family abuse by the system.
That was our hope to begin with. It’s nots about the money, though that is a nice bonus. All the money in the world will not get back the time we lost as a family raising these babies. You see, by the time we got them back, one was only months away from aging out and the other only 2 years away; now only 9 months away.
We missed out on all those young teen conversations and advice, prom, school events and extra curicular activities teens enjoy. We could not volunteer to chaparone, etc simply becasue we were not allowed to be active in their lives outside of counseling appointments set up by and for CPS. Can’t replace that.
Since the politicians would not get involved, let it cost them dearly. Then maybe they’ll do something when we tap into the states budget,,,and the federal stimulas money they receive. Won’t it be nice if they can’t get a raise this year or next, or next because WE took the money budgeted for it!
Wake up, politicians!!!! Either you can do something to fix the system OR all of us can keep taking your potential raise money!!!
It’s your call republicans and democrates alike!!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 26, 2010 @ 7:12 am
we had a citizen foster care review board meeting yesterday and the foster parents where making the board members think that our kids hated coming for a visitation…they tried to say that they acted out before they came but then they changed the story and told the board that it was not before they went but after they came back from a visitation. The abuse allegations against my husband only invlove one of our 5 children and the foster parents where singling out that child saying that they had reports that she acted afraid of us at visits(which is not true and i have pictures to prove it) and saying that she screams when she knows its time for a visitation….its all lies and i know it…my kids want to come home and dont understand why they cant. they are telling these people on this review board lies so they will recommend to the judge not to give us our kids back because they are scared of us. Why would someone do this to people how could they be so cruel. I am dying inside more everyday and losing all hope and strength. I have one question…since it became apparant to me yesterday that the foster parent know all about the abuse allegations…are they allowed to know about our supposedly confidential case and isnt that considered a conflict of interest? they keep telling my parents that the reason why they cant have the kids is because they know about the case and it would be a conflict of interest because they could influence the kids one way or another…doesn’t that apply to foster parents…i think it would because knowing the way they acted at the meeting i know they are brainwashing my kids every chance they get….i have such a since of urgency to get them out of that home…I feel they are being harmed and mistreated…yet there isnt anything i can do to protect my own kids. I feel so helpless! Why doesnt anyone listen to our cry’s and help us…why doesnt anybody care?
Comment by Candace — February 26, 2010 @ 8:48 am
hey guys i found this to be a great indication of how social workers are, act and lack any respect. It is a facebook fan site entitled “things only social workers say” and my case worker is a member of this site. take a look
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=mf&gid=324950236345
Comment by Candace — February 26, 2010 @ 8:59 am
I encourage people to use wetip.com and their local District Attorneys office to report misconduct and illegal actions by DCFS and CPS in any county or state , my best opinion would be Wetip.com they will mostly send your report to the local DA,FBI,Local lawenforcement or any agency that the crime would apply to for annonymus investigation, you dont have to give your name or info and you get acase number to call them again and get updated information about the investigation as well as you can also geta reward for a conviction on anyone and i mean anyone doing illegal things or misconduct by any goverment agency or agent! as well as DCFS because they are goverment agencys. And they do commit fraud,perjure,illegal misconduct,slander, as well as maliciously persocute people by creating false abuse accusations as well as creating evidence that never ecxisted thats a crime. Wetip.com and your local District Attorneys office wil get involved since DA have an integrity unit that handles any crimes or misconduct by any goverment agency. dont be afraid to report this people remamber they are not afraid to report you and lie and perjure and try to get your children to grow up with out their parents. Use this resources they are very helpfull and might open the eyes of lawenforcement if alot of people report this crimes.
Comment by satan=cps — February 26, 2010 @ 5:59 pm
hey miss linda i hope this helps this guy is one of the smartest best defense attorneys i have come across to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzrEGP4UIN8
http://www.falsely-accused.net/
Comment by satan=cps — February 26, 2010 @ 6:09 pm
I am wondering if an order of power of attorney will stop cps, if there has been nothing more then a visit. I was asked to voluntarily allow my children to stay with my mom this weekend. Which I did. However, I need to know if this will stop them from presuming me!! Any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance!!
Michigan resident.
Comment by Kristy — February 27, 2010 @ 9:07 am
ticked off father, I hope you’re right, but understand that that DHS has been playing this game for a long time. They use our tax dollars to hire the attorneys, psychiatrists, etc.,. A parent has to have determination and drive. Enough to overcome the downfalls that will come when dealing with DHS. I hope that you are succesful at the first swing, if not, stand at the plate and swing again. Do not let them make you lose hope, if what you expect to happen doesn’t happen. They are professionals, and they do this for a living. Every parent is new to DHS, and DHS have the homefield advantage. The difference is that we are fighting for our families, and they are simply earning a paycheck. Even through my disgust of DHS, I wouldn’t wish DHS on their own families.
Comment by daaronad — February 27, 2010 @ 7:44 pm
I just found this web site as I am now at WAR with the evil, subhuman slime that work for the Neo-Nazi State of Los Angeles County (don’t get me going, as I’m being far too kind).
I can’t go into details here, yet, but I now have HARD DOCUMENTATION that after being falsely accused of child abuse, more than four years ago after I was told to call CPS by my attorney (yes, you read that correctly, I called CPS and they went after me) that LA County is knowingly and fraudulently trying to file NEW CHARGES against me – I have ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION from the County that PROVES this fact. As is normal for them, the evil Los Angeles County MONSTERS NEVER provided any due process, ALL of my rights were DENIED, and my then 12-year-old was stolen from me. A little more than a year ago, my ex called me for the first time in YEARS because our daughter was out of control (what a surprise) – a few weeks later, she tried to commit SUICIDE (at age 12) and nearly killed her mother and her brother in the process. I immediately went back to the evil judge who stole my child from me – that judge had also REFUSED to let my attorney and me subpoena CPS – and after I called that evil judge a “bigoted misandrist child abuser” (yes, I called the judge that and the documents I filed with the court also clearly prove this little fact, the judge had a brainwave and realized that EVERYTHING I tried to prevent had now occurred (except that my child wasn’t yet dead – thank God).
I won’t go into more details here but after Los Angeles County VIOLATED the laws again (I just got a ruling against them on this fact), and a second suicide attempt by my child, they finally placed her in a residential treatment center FIVE MONTHS later.
Los Angeles County, however, NEVER stopped their malicious attacks against me. Even though the judge restored my custody rights a year ago (she had no choice after she realized that I was the ONLY one who cared about my child), I’ve only seen my daughter two times in more than four years. When I saw her, just a few weeks ago, she APOLOGIZED for making FALSE charges against me and I also learned that she had SEVERE DRUG ABUSE beginning at the time I first tried to get help for her. Because the SATANIC BEASTS from Los Angeles County refused to help and went after me for trying to HELP, I learned that my daughter started with methamphetamine, beginning at age 12 (!!!!) and has used LSD, heroine, Xanax, Vicodin, alcohol, marijuana, and many drugs I’ve never heard of. For the ENTIRE YEAR before she tried to commit suicide last January, she had been taking ecstasy MULTIPLE TIMES per week! What kind of EVIL MONSTERS are we dealing with????
Over the past year, I have filed multiple complaints against LA County for their illegal actions since the first suicide attempt and keep PREVAILING. I just received HARD DOCUMENTATION a few days ago, that PROVES that the EVIL SATANIC BEASTS from LA County have been literally trying to file more FALSE charges against me since at least September – I have the actual NOTES of the beast from the Los Angeles County Department of Mental Health who is involved in this latest evil. In addition, this BEAST’s notes clearly record that fact that she has has been told, multiple times, by the institution where my child is, that there are NO GROUNDS for ANY CHARGES (I’ve got this is writing!!!). The LA County monster has tried to get the institution (located to file in both Colorado and in California) – again, they have REFUSED! When the beast first launched LA County’s new attack, I hadn’t seen my child in FOUR YEARS and she was FULLY AWARE of that. Even so, she has stated, in her notes, that’s she’s already called CPS, SEVERAL TIMES, because the institution won’t do it (again, because they’ve said I’ve done NOTHING). She’s also said that when my child returns to California, she’ll file against me. Once more, I have the ACTUAL DOCUMENTS that prove this fact.
Gosh, do you think I’m ANGRY?!?! I was FORCED into bankruptcy by all of this, my life has been destroyed, and my 16 year-old mentally ill child who is now locked up in a facility as a DIRECT RESULT of Los Angeles County CPS, MUST have brain damage from so many years of severe drug abuse. And these MONSTERS want to go after me again!?!?!? Even when their own notes record the fact that there is there are NO GROUNDS for doing so?!?!?!
I need an attorney NOW – again, I have HARD DOCUMENTATION I’ve just obtained from LA County that PROVES everything I’ve said and more. Help!!!!
Comment by Abused Father — February 27, 2010 @ 11:07 pm
Not only I was a victim of CPS when I was a child. The foster homes were horrible, but now my for year old is a victim of our court system. And my family is being used again to make money from our kids. I should of never lost custody of my four year old son.
Comment by AnnaMarie — February 28, 2010 @ 5:57 am
Candace, three suggestions:
1. Read Who Will Help Prepare Your CPS Case?
2. Request a state administrative hearing regarding violation of kinship care rights and confidentiality violation.
3. Document each visit with the Visitation Documentation Form.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 12:17 pm
Great links, satan=cps! I will link that YouTube video to the front of the site!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 1:00 pm
Kristy, are you thinking of signing guardianship over to your mom? If so there is guardianship information in our message board. This has been effective in getting CPS to stop an investigation.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 1:06 pm
Abused Father – there are Los Angelos area attorneys listed on the lawyers page of this site.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 1:28 pm
Thank you Linda…I will use the visitation documentation forms. I have another question about the administrative hearing. My husband and I have been able to pay a lawyer to help us with an appeal regarding the substantiation of the false abuse allegations. would the appeal for the abuse allegations be a good time to bring up the denial of kinship care and all the concerns i have connected with the foster home or should it be a seperate hearing…we were only able to afford this lawyer because of the kindness of family and friends helping with the cost…I am not sure we could afford to pay this lawyer for another hearing…I know we could represent ourselves but that never seems to work out in any situation and I am really desperate to get my kids out of that home…The last time I had a visit my 11 year old son told us that he and his sibling were all forced to drink out of sippy-cups..meant for a toddler. My children dont deserve that abuse. I guess my question is can I use the appeal for the substantiation for more than just the false allegations and lay out all my concerns during that hearing since I will have a paid lawyer for that hearing?
Comment by Candace — February 28, 2010 @ 1:28 pm
AnnaMarie, they often pick on ex-foster children this way. I hope this site helps you with ideas on how to win your case!
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 1:30 pm
Candace, this is something you should ask the lawyer! I am not a lawyer. In my opinion (not a technically ‘legal opinion’ since I’m not qualified to have one) all issues can be brought up in any court hearing. But that is totally up to the lawyer. The administrative hearing is a separate meeting in the social services office between you, your caseworker (and whoever else they may bring) and an Administrative Law Judge who is an employee of the State Department of Social Services. This is not the same as a juvenile court hearing. You can represent yourself at an admin hearing or ask anyone else (lawyer or not) to represent you. It is usually based on violations of state regulations. You should be able to get a copy of the social service regulations from your local county law library, and prepare your case yourself. It is a way of letting your state dept. of social services know that your county department employees are violating regulations such as the kinship care law.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 28, 2010 @ 1:37 pm
thats one benefit of being in the military we are trained to never quit and well I don’t intend to I don’t care how many years it takes and because of this I have got interested in researching all of the laws that has to go with it and I have gone through probally 90 supreme court cases and well going through all of this we are going to the state BAr association to file a complaint on her attorney since I have learned that he could have won the case if he would have fought and done his job instead of bullying her into taking the plea deal by constantly saying they would lose if they went to trial and she would go away for the full ten years
Comment by ticked off father — February 28, 2010 @ 2:41 pm
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Comment by satan=cps — February 28, 2010 @ 10:18 pm