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	<title>Comments on: Arizona: Children of Loving Parents Abducted Thanks to Walmart and CPS</title>
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		<title>By: Milos Leubner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milos Leubner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al --  of course  i understand you,  you are the Christian  in a mold  of the &quot;defenders of faith &quot;  - the Spanish  Inquisition of the middle ages. Your  god is the Lord of  Israelite ,the jelous god  who ordered  them  to massacre  all the living  things in lands  they conqured by sheer  black magic.  Of course the nudity  as you call it is indefensible to  you.So keep it to yourself  and  your God,the god of  fear and intolerance .  I  was born naked and no matter  how much  you deny  that ,so were you.   you created  the God of your own image,god of  fears,judgments  ,denial  and slavery.  You have never  met  the Creator yet,maybe one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al &#8212;  of course  i understand you,  you are the Christian  in a mold  of the &#8220;defenders of faith &#8221;  &#8211; the Spanish  Inquisition of the middle ages. Your  god is the Lord of  Israelite ,the jelous god  who ordered  them  to massacre  all the living  things in lands  they conqured by sheer  black magic.  Of course the nudity  as you call it is indefensible to  you.So keep it to yourself  and  your God,the god of  fear and intolerance .  I  was born naked and no matter  how much  you deny  that ,so were you.   you created  the God of your own image,god of  fears,judgments  ,denial  and slavery.  You have never  met  the Creator yet,maybe one day.</p>
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		<title>By: ROBERT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROBERT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 3 year old daughter was removed from my home and fostered within 24 hrs of allegations of neglect. They accuse me of drug abuse but ive passed all UA&#039;s each time. They refused my mom the right to have my daughter because she is in &quot;Recovery&quot;. 5 years clean mind you. Something is seriously wrong with this and my daughter is devastated. She went histerical at my visit crying to come home with me. It breaks my heart, CPS is not the hand of god. THEY DESTROY FAMILIES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 3 year old daughter was removed from my home and fostered within 24 hrs of allegations of neglect. They accuse me of drug abuse but ive passed all UA&#8217;s each time. They refused my mom the right to have my daughter because she is in &#8220;Recovery&#8221;. 5 years clean mind you. Something is seriously wrong with this and my daughter is devastated. She went histerical at my visit crying to come home with me. It breaks my heart, CPS is not the hand of god. THEY DESTROY FAMILIES</p>
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		<title>By: Mitzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The long term agenda of the movement to take away America is to turn it totally into a totalitarian police state where parents aren&#039;t allowed to rear their children AT ALL. They&#039;ve tried to condition our children to accept that they&#039;re unable to provide and only the state knows what is best and can raise our children. It&#039;s the brave new world folks and it&#039;s the direct result of rejecting God. Not what we had in mind for us humans at all is it? And now, they&#039;re going to expand it worldwide, calling it the New World Order, and they will decide everything for all of us. I thank God that I&#039;m a Christian, I won&#039;t fit in and I don&#039;t already, but I won&#039;t bow my knee to this evil system either. Praise God Jesus will destroy mystery babylon(nwo &amp; the powers that enable it) when He returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long term agenda of the movement to take away America is to turn it totally into a totalitarian police state where parents aren&#8217;t allowed to rear their children AT ALL. They&#8217;ve tried to condition our children to accept that they&#8217;re unable to provide and only the state knows what is best and can raise our children. It&#8217;s the brave new world folks and it&#8217;s the direct result of rejecting God. Not what we had in mind for us humans at all is it? And now, they&#8217;re going to expand it worldwide, calling it the New World Order, and they will decide everything for all of us. I thank God that I&#8217;m a Christian, I won&#8217;t fit in and I don&#8217;t already, but I won&#8217;t bow my knee to this evil system either. Praise God Jesus will destroy mystery babylon(nwo &amp; the powers that enable it) when He returns.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christians have no business having anything to do with nudism. All you have to do is read the Bible where you will find no support at all for, and much condemnation of, going naked.
That&#039;s actually naked, not just wearing only a tunic (long shirt) or loincloth (similar in coverage to today&#039;s bermuda shorts), which is sometimes called &quot;naked.&quot; -- Isaiah 20:3, John 21:7
When the madman&#039;s demon was cast out, he put clothes on. -- Mark 5:15
Being unclothed in public is presented as shameful. -- Genesis 3:7; Is. 20:4, 47:3; Ezekiel 16:37; Nahum 3:5; Habakkuk 2:15; Micah 1:11; Revelation 3:18
Being naked is associated with poverty. -- Deuteronomy 28:48; I Corinthians 4:11, II Cor. 11:27
When someone is naked (un- or inadequately clothed), we are to clothe them. -- Isaiah 58:7; Matthew 25:38, 43

Public nudity is &quot;asking&quot; for CPS attention. It is indefensible both as a Christian and as a member of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians have no business having anything to do with nudism. All you have to do is read the Bible where you will find no support at all for, and much condemnation of, going naked.<br />
That&#8217;s actually naked, not just wearing only a tunic (long shirt) or loincloth (similar in coverage to today&#8217;s bermuda shorts), which is sometimes called &#8220;naked.&#8221; &#8212; Isaiah 20:3, John 21:7<br />
When the madman&#8217;s demon was cast out, he put clothes on. &#8212; Mark 5:15<br />
Being unclothed in public is presented as shameful. &#8212; Genesis 3:7; Is. 20:4, 47:3; Ezekiel 16:37; Nahum 3:5; Habakkuk 2:15; Micah 1:11; Revelation 3:18<br />
Being naked is associated with poverty. &#8212; Deuteronomy 28:48; I Corinthians 4:11, II Cor. 11:27<br />
When someone is naked (un- or inadequately clothed), we are to clothe them. &#8212; Isaiah 58:7; Matthew 25:38, 43</p>
<p>Public nudity is &#8220;asking&#8221; for CPS attention. It is indefensible both as a Christian and as a member of society.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nudists on alert for paedophiles&quot; http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/nudists-on-alert-for-paedophiles-685420.html
&quot;Earlier this year [2001], however, an official from a naturist club was jailed for nine years after being found guilty of sexually abusing children. Alan Ross-Duff was chairman of the Blackthorn Sun Club in Bedfordshire where he used his position to gain the trust of parents so he could carry out attacks spanning 11 years on children who attended the club.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nudists on alert for paedophiles&#8221; <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/nudists-on-alert-for-paedophiles-685420.html">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/nudists-on-alert-for-paedophiles-685420.html</a><br />
&#8220;Earlier this year [2001], however, an official from a naturist club was jailed for nine years after being found guilty of sexually abusing children. Alan Ross-Duff was chairman of the Blackthorn Sun Club in Bedfordshire where he used his position to gain the trust of parents so he could carry out attacks spanning 11 years on children who attended the club.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOTT
That’s nudist CLUB, not colony. You can easily find out what goes on there: go there. I’ve been to those places. The people are nice. Nothing sick happens.

Comment by Lava — October 1, 2009 @ 9:49 am

Only ants live in colonies.
Nudist CLUBS should never be referred to as colonies. There is no “sick crap” going on at nudist parks. Therefore CPS is just as likely to misrepresent them in court and label a member unfit.

Comment by Lava — October 2, 2009 @ 10:57 am

Wrong. Hutterites also live in colonies. That&#039;s what they call them, like &quot;Glendale Colony.&quot;
A &quot;colony&quot; would be where people live all on the same premises. Nudists generally live in their own homes and attend the resorts or clubs.

Don&#039;t kid yourselves about &quot;sick crap&quot; never going on at or connected with nudists. Nudist resorts are extremely vulnerable to this sort of incidents and to accusations, genuine and false.

&quot;A former member of a Manitoba nudist resort accused of running one of the largest child pornography rings in Canada has been hit with new charges of sexually assaulting a pre-teen girl who frequented the facility.&quot; http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/31384189.html

What with microcameras everywhere today, bans on cameras will not stop child pornographers from infiltrating nudist resorts and photographing children.

Parents are NUTZ to take children to a nudist resort, or to go themselves, in today&#039;s climate.

Any parents who are &quot;strange,&quot; &quot;odd,&quot; or, worst of all, poor, are highly vulnerable to CPS attacks (not all of which are unjustified). If you are well to do, live in &quot;normal&quot; housing, drive &quot;normal&quot; vehicles (not beat-up old school buses or flower child vans), and appear &quot;normal,&quot; you are not very inviting to CPS. You can probably afford good legal assistance, which makes you very unattractive to CPS.
We have found that a CAMCORDER and a CELL PHONE with the attorney on speed-dial is invaluable in chasing CPS off at the first contact.
However, the camcorder is also an audio recorder and as such in some states that require consent of all present to have their voices recorded, it can present a problem. A video-only surveillance camera would there be preferred unless you make sure to state at the beginning that voices are being recorded and that speaking constitutes consent to be recorded. If you live in one of these states, check with your attorney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCOTT<br />
That’s nudist CLUB, not colony. You can easily find out what goes on there: go there. I’ve been to those places. The people are nice. Nothing sick happens.</p>
<p>Comment by Lava — October 1, 2009 @ 9:49 am</p>
<p>Only ants live in colonies.<br />
Nudist CLUBS should never be referred to as colonies. There is no “sick crap” going on at nudist parks. Therefore CPS is just as likely to misrepresent them in court and label a member unfit.</p>
<p>Comment by Lava — October 2, 2009 @ 10:57 am</p>
<p>Wrong. Hutterites also live in colonies. That&#8217;s what they call them, like &#8220;Glendale Colony.&#8221;<br />
A &#8220;colony&#8221; would be where people live all on the same premises. Nudists generally live in their own homes and attend the resorts or clubs.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t kid yourselves about &#8220;sick crap&#8221; never going on at or connected with nudists. Nudist resorts are extremely vulnerable to this sort of incidents and to accusations, genuine and false.</p>
<p>&#8220;A former member of a Manitoba nudist resort accused of running one of the largest child pornography rings in Canada has been hit with new charges of sexually assaulting a pre-teen girl who frequented the facility.&#8221; <a href="http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/31384189.html">http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/historic/31384189.html</a></p>
<p>What with microcameras everywhere today, bans on cameras will not stop child pornographers from infiltrating nudist resorts and photographing children.</p>
<p>Parents are NUTZ to take children to a nudist resort, or to go themselves, in today&#8217;s climate.</p>
<p>Any parents who are &#8220;strange,&#8221; &#8220;odd,&#8221; or, worst of all, poor, are highly vulnerable to CPS attacks (not all of which are unjustified). If you are well to do, live in &#8220;normal&#8221; housing, drive &#8220;normal&#8221; vehicles (not beat-up old school buses or flower child vans), and appear &#8220;normal,&#8221; you are not very inviting to CPS. You can probably afford good legal assistance, which makes you very unattractive to CPS.<br />
We have found that a CAMCORDER and a CELL PHONE with the attorney on speed-dial is invaluable in chasing CPS off at the first contact.<br />
However, the camcorder is also an audio recorder and as such in some states that require consent of all present to have their voices recorded, it can present a problem. A video-only surveillance camera would there be preferred unless you make sure to state at the beginning that voices are being recorded and that speaking constitutes consent to be recorded. If you live in one of these states, check with your attorney.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... they’re both now on the Arizona list of sex offenders.&quot;
If they weren&#039;t convicted of anything, this is vindictive retaliation by the CPS &quot;workers.&quot;
We were threatened with being &quot;permanently&quot; listed as &quot;child abusers&quot; because we insisted to have our attorney present during interrogation (CPS calls it &quot;interview&quot;).
These lists now go WORLDWIDE at the click of a mouse! Once on, don&#039;t count on ever getting off. Judges have jurisdiction only over CPS in their court district (local courts), state (state district courts) or nation (federal courts). They cannot compel CPS associates in other jurisdictions to remove people&#039;s names from their registers.
NEVER give Socialist Slave Number to CPS! It will be used to list you as &quot;child abuser.&quot;
Used to be people were driven out or murdered for refusing to christen and baptize their children in the state church. Now we&#039;re ostracized for not getting SSNs for our children at birth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; they’re both now on the Arizona list of sex offenders.&#8221;<br />
If they weren&#8217;t convicted of anything, this is vindictive retaliation by the CPS &#8220;workers.&#8221;<br />
We were threatened with being &#8220;permanently&#8221; listed as &#8220;child abusers&#8221; because we insisted to have our attorney present during interrogation (CPS calls it &#8220;interview&#8221;).<br />
These lists now go WORLDWIDE at the click of a mouse! Once on, don&#8217;t count on ever getting off. Judges have jurisdiction only over CPS in their court district (local courts), state (state district courts) or nation (federal courts). They cannot compel CPS associates in other jurisdictions to remove people&#8217;s names from their registers.<br />
NEVER give Socialist Slave Number to CPS! It will be used to list you as &#8220;child abuser.&#8221;<br />
Used to be people were driven out or murdered for refusing to christen and baptize their children in the state church. Now we&#8217;re ostracized for not getting SSNs for our children at birth!</p>
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		<title>By: faith baden</title>
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		<dc:creator>faith baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dawn send me your email and i will send you the police report on it and let you read it for your self its crazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dawn send me your email and i will send you the police report on it and let you read it for your self its crazy</p>
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		<title>By: faith baden</title>
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		<dc:creator>faith baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as we know they are here in lansing mi .they were in midland until last month she pulled them from school and ran with them.and the courts and dhs let her go with them .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as we know they are here in lansing mi .they were in midland until last month she pulled them from school and ran with them.and the courts and dhs let her go with them .</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith, what state are your sons in now?</description>
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