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	<title>Comments on: California: Mother of Octuplets Fires Nurses Over Call to CPS</title>
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	<description>Family Rights v. Child Welfare</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bdaddiction</title>
		<link>http://fightcps.com/2009/03/23/california-mother-of-octuplets-fires-nurses-over-call-to-cps/comment-page-1/#comment-173254</link>
		<dc:creator>bdaddiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gingerroot and Linda, I forgot to mention me too. 

Mine were suppose to openly adopted. I haven't seen my two girls in two years. DCF (DSS) says, that my oldest, who is 14 now doesn't want anything to do with me. My youngest, is affected by this and they are saying she is getting use to her new pre-adoptive home. 

My mother gets visits frequently with the oldest (unsupervised), and she has seen the youngest last month. But, the pre-adoptive mother thinks she is going to kidnap her. Just yet another rumor spread by DCF. So DCF decided when she does see the youngest that they need to be supervised. Luckily, my oldest's foster mother does the supervising. Visits have become less frequent since last summer. 

The psychologist testified in court that this would be very important for their futures for my children to see the grandparents on a regular basis, since they were so much in their lives. The other grandmother just was approved for two supervised visits a year with the youngest, a couple of weeks ago. She has it in writing, unlike my mother, so hopefully they go with the flow.  

I will need to go to court yet again for my visits. I have doubts that I will ever see them again. I agree that DCF really has pulled a fast one on us, since mine is in writing that I get two visits a year. It hurts thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gingerroot and Linda, I forgot to mention me too. </p>
<p>Mine were suppose to openly adopted. I haven&#8217;t seen my two girls in two years. DCF (DSS) says, that my oldest, who is 14 now doesn&#8217;t want anything to do with me. My youngest, is affected by this and they are saying she is getting use to her new pre-adoptive home. </p>
<p>My mother gets visits frequently with the oldest (unsupervised), and she has seen the youngest last month. But, the pre-adoptive mother thinks she is going to kidnap her. Just yet another rumor spread by DCF. So DCF decided when she does see the youngest that they need to be supervised. Luckily, my oldest&#8217;s foster mother does the supervising. Visits have become less frequent since last summer. </p>
<p>The psychologist testified in court that this would be very important for their futures for my children to see the grandparents on a regular basis, since they were so much in their lives. The other grandmother just was approved for two supervised visits a year with the youngest, a couple of weeks ago. She has it in writing, unlike my mother, so hopefully they go with the flow.  </p>
<p>I will need to go to court yet again for my visits. I have doubts that I will ever see them again. I agree that DCF really has pulled a fast one on us, since mine is in writing that I get two visits a year. It hurts thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Diando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the "Angles in Waiting" and Dr. Phil wanted were the fame.  The Angels in waiting wanted the funds from donations and when those didn't come in, then they wanted funds from the Government for having these children.  I guarantee you that they had a deal worked out.  

Just think about it... 14 x 6,000 per a month = $84,000.00 a month, not to mention all the free publicity.  Wow!  What a score that would be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the &#8220;Angles in Waiting&#8221; and Dr. Phil wanted were the fame.  The Angels in waiting wanted the funds from donations and when those didn&#8217;t come in, then they wanted funds from the Government for having these children.  I guarantee you that they had a deal worked out.  </p>
<p>Just think about it&#8230; 14 x 6,000 per a month = $84,000.00 a month, not to mention all the free publicity.  Wow!  What a score that would be!</p>
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		<title>By: bdaddiction</title>
		<link>http://fightcps.com/2009/03/23/california-mother-of-octuplets-fires-nurses-over-call-to-cps/comment-page-1/#comment-171119</link>
		<dc:creator>bdaddiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew this was going to happen. You should see the comments from other mothers on Babycenter, they are cruel. Of course they have no idea what the system is like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew this was going to happen. You should see the comments from other mothers on Babycenter, they are cruel. Of course they have no idea what the system is like.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaJoMartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaJoMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gingerroot - I have a daughter like that too. She barely knows me but has me all judged beyond understanding. She won't talk or communicate. It is called Parental Alienation Syndrome. We just have to go on with our lives and not waste too much emotion on kids incapable of understanding the traumas we went through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gingerroot - I have a daughter like that too. She barely knows me but has me all judged beyond understanding. She won&#8217;t talk or communicate. It is called Parental Alienation Syndrome. We just have to go on with our lives and not waste too much emotion on kids incapable of understanding the traumas we went through.</p>
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		<title>By: gingerroot</title>
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		<dc:creator>gingerroot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and believe me these illlegal "adoptive" parents thought of her as their property even though her parents were forced into signing her into adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and believe me these illlegal &#8220;adoptive&#8221; parents thought of her as their property even though her parents were forced into signing her into adoption.</p>
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		<title>By: gingerroot</title>
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		<dc:creator>gingerroot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherri,

Don't be too sure that an "Open" adoption is possible.  My brother and wife were forced into giving their daughter up for adoption and supposedly "Open".  Well, after hearing nothing and waiting till she turned 18 so we thought and were told that we had to wait till she turned 21.  She turned 21 and we received the most hurful, hatefilled and nasty note anybody could have ever received.  We did not know her and she did not know us.  However, it is assumed she went to a rich family.  She never lived with her biological parents or biological relatives so she had nothing to complain about.  Who taught her to hate and be so arrogant is beyond belief!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherri,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be too sure that an &#8220;Open&#8221; adoption is possible.  My brother and wife were forced into giving their daughter up for adoption and supposedly &#8220;Open&#8221;.  Well, after hearing nothing and waiting till she turned 18 so we thought and were told that we had to wait till she turned 21.  She turned 21 and we received the most hurful, hatefilled and nasty note anybody could have ever received.  We did not know her and she did not know us.  However, it is assumed she went to a rich family.  She never lived with her biological parents or biological relatives so she had nothing to complain about.  Who taught her to hate and be so arrogant is beyond belief!</p>
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		<title>By: LindaJoMartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaJoMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it will be difficult for her - but I believe she should get her chance to be a good parent to her children. People are too quick to judge others, and she's a very public punching bag for public judgment-making. Having her nurses call CPS on the flimsiest of pretexts is the last thing she needs now. And as for what the babies deserve - there is nothing better for them than to be raised with each other by the mother who gave birth to them... the one woman in the world who cares more for them than anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it will be difficult for her - but I believe she should get her chance to be a good parent to her children. People are too quick to judge others, and she&#8217;s a very public punching bag for public judgment-making. Having her nurses call CPS on the flimsiest of pretexts is the last thing she needs now. And as for what the babies deserve - there is nothing better for them than to be raised with each other by the mother who gave birth to them&#8230; the one woman in the world who cares more for them than anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think nadya has a very big heart, however, let's be realistic, 14 children by a single mother in THIS DAY AND AGE is a financial shipwreck waiting to happen.  i honestly think she should hire an adoption agency and arrange for OPEN adoptions of all of the little babies.  They NEED one-on-one care because of their multiple birth-status, and no ONE PERSON can possibly provide that for 14 little children, DEMANDING HER ATTENTION, AROUND THE CLOCK.  we all know the child stealers are just waiting to pounce on her at the first hint of trouble, and i sincerely hope that they are defeated at every turn, but the BABIES DESERVE BETTER, and, SHE CAN STILL BE IN THEIR LIVES under an "Open" adoption, not having her rights viciously "Terminated" and shut out of their lives, forever, without any legal justification, so the child stealers can collect their bonuses!!! 
Best of luck to Nadya and please pray for her and her babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think nadya has a very big heart, however, let&#8217;s be realistic, 14 children by a single mother in THIS DAY AND AGE is a financial shipwreck waiting to happen.  i honestly think she should hire an adoption agency and arrange for OPEN adoptions of all of the little babies.  They NEED one-on-one care because of their multiple birth-status, and no ONE PERSON can possibly provide that for 14 little children, DEMANDING HER ATTENTION, AROUND THE CLOCK.  we all know the child stealers are just waiting to pounce on her at the first hint of trouble, and i sincerely hope that they are defeated at every turn, but the BABIES DESERVE BETTER, and, SHE CAN STILL BE IN THEIR LIVES under an &#8220;Open&#8221; adoption, not having her rights viciously &#8220;Terminated&#8221; and shut out of their lives, forever, without any legal justification, so the child stealers can collect their bonuses!!!<br />
Best of luck to Nadya and please pray for her and her babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a press release put out by Dr. Phil which addresses the termination of Angels in Waiting stay with the octuplets.

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/Dr/Phil/prweb2264514.htm

Personally, I believe Gloria Allred was the power behind the scenes soliciting donations for Angels in Waiting.

However, Nadya says that Kaiser Permanente will now train Nadya's own personal nannies on newborn care.

I personally think Ms. Suleyman is gaming the system, however, trust issues are always paramount when dealing with CPS.

After all "the business of children is THEIR BUSINESS.."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a press release put out by Dr. Phil which addresses the termination of Angels in Waiting stay with the octuplets.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emediawire.com/releases/Dr/Phil/prweb2264514.htm">http://www.emediawire.com/releases/Dr/Phil/prweb2264514.htm</a></p>
<p>Personally, I believe Gloria Allred was the power behind the scenes soliciting donations for Angels in Waiting.</p>
<p>However, Nadya says that Kaiser Permanente will now train Nadya&#8217;s own personal nannies on newborn care.</p>
<p>I personally think Ms. Suleyman is gaming the system, however, trust issues are always paramount when dealing with CPS.</p>
<p>After all &#8220;the business of children is THEIR BUSINESS..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: LindaJoMartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaJoMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mimi, I was impressed with her attitude and ability to verbalize when I saw her on YouTube videos - I don't watch TV.

Todd... I'm amazed by the number of people who scorn Nadya for the creativity and strength to do her own thing. I wouldn't choose to have children without a father but it is what she wanted and even with six, she wanted more. Possibly this is all she wants to do with her life. I am not sent to earth to judge others and I hope all you others learn to abstain from judging others too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mimi, I was impressed with her attitude and ability to verbalize when I saw her on YouTube videos - I don&#8217;t watch TV.</p>
<p>Todd&#8230; I&#8217;m amazed by the number of people who scorn Nadya for the creativity and strength to do her own thing. I wouldn&#8217;t choose to have children without a father but it is what she wanted and even with six, she wanted more. Possibly this is all she wants to do with her life. I am not sent to earth to judge others and I hope all you others learn to abstain from judging others too.</p>
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