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March 5, 2009
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Dear JoLisa
I’m glad to hear that your child’s doctor will keep a file for you.
I have a feeling the school will “tread lightly” right now, they know you have enough for a lawsuit.
Just keep documenting.
Keep up the good fight.
Comment by fran — March 5, 2009 @ 5:06 am
My case is now on appeal to the Supreme Court of VA, thanks to my lawyer offering to do it pro bono. He knows how much money we have spent already.
I am happy to see more and more articles coming out in the Wash. Examiner, and even the Wash. Post now, exposing the corrupt judges in Northern VA!
Comment by Nancy Hey — March 5, 2009 @ 8:54 am
Fran,
I think that my son dropped the bomb about seeking legal councel. They are setting up a meeting for the 11th for me to meet with the councelor, the “lab” teacher, (left bruises,) and the head person for the sped dept.
I just found out from one of my neighbors that while my son was playing at another neighbors house, (we are all close friends,) that when my son was asked if he had a good day at school he said he didn’t go. When they asked why he told them that his teacher spanked him. Now I have even more witnesses! They know that my son doesn’t make things up.
She asked me if I went to the police and I told her about how he would react to a total stranger and that they wouldn’t be able to get a statement from him. I told her what our plan of action was. She said that if it was her kid, (she doesn’t have any at this time,) she would be homicidal.
I told her that we feel the same way but if we break the law we won’t have a leg to stand on in court. We opted to stick it to them legally.
I turned in the medical mandate this morning and told my son that while he is at school he is not to talk about anything we are doing about this and he agreed. I don’t want them to get the upper hand on the situation.
I met directly with the councelor and once again she said that they can’t meet his needs and that’s why the meeting is necessary.
When we were parting so that she could go to a meeting I told her that I couldn’t believe that my son ended up in the timeout room and she looked at me as if to snicker, (she had an evil smile and even her eyes looked evil,) as if to say that she knows about what they did to my child and that I don’t have a clue. If that is what was going through her head she is dead wrong and if she thinks that I am not going to do anything about it she is delusional!
I will be emailing the secretary of the attorney I was referred to with everything that I told the paralegal fo the other attorney and add everything that has happened since then. Hopefully he won’t turn me away with yet another referral. It is imperative that I get court proceedings started before the meeting and before the statute of limitations run out.
I don’t want anyone putting their hands on my child but at the same time, I hope they are stupid enough to try it again or to at least threaten him. The more they do to my son, the bigger my case will be and by the time I am done with them they will all feel like they were sodomized without any lube!
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 5, 2009 @ 10:15 am
Dear JoLisa, I think it is awful what they are doing to your son, I really hope that you can sue them, and also get your son moved to another school.
Comment by Nancy Hey — March 5, 2009 @ 11:00 am
how long so I have to file a lawsuit against cps and the foster parent?
Comment by Heather — March 5, 2009 @ 12:26 pm
I tried to sue DHS but it doesn’t do no good county attorney and attorney general dismisses my case they don’t want the truth to come out attorney general is DHS laywers remember attorney general and Judges takes vacations together so none of them is going against the Judges decisions attorney general and county attorney go into the Judges chambers and talk bad about you so the Judges already have their mind made up on you before the Judges even sees you they are suppose to be protected by the 11th and 13th amendment they have immudently.
Comment by Terri Rote — March 5, 2009 @ 12:58 pm
If anybody is interesting in going to a Rally in DesMoines Iowa Friday at 1;30 sothside of the courthouse bring your signs the Rally is against DHS and the corrupted courts.
Comment by Terri Rote — March 5, 2009 @ 1:02 pm
So basically the things that happened to my children in foster care and to our family I just have to let go
Comment by Heather — March 5, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
It is difficult to sue CPS as there is generally immunity but laws vary.
You may be able to argue neglience on CPS’s part in placing the child with a particular foster family.
I don’t know. It would depend upon your state’s statutes and/or case law.
Same is true for bringing suit. i.e. you must check your state’s laws and consult a local attorney who has experience in these cases.
Many attorneys offer free consults.
As to “letting it go” -even if you cannot obtain satisfaction, you could help others fight CPS by sharing what you know.
Good luck to you.
Comment by MaggieC — March 5, 2009 @ 1:17 pm
I have My Case In US District Court, Suing DHS for what they did to my Childs life and my Family, People in cases with DHS should Keep Fighting, DO NOT GIVE UP,, EVER !!!
Find a good paralegal to help file suit in US District Court, Most Lawyers are to much, but paralegal are the ones lawyers turn to to do the work any ways, It is what I did, And it is working good, Just do not forget the paralegal, when DHS pay you,
Peace Be With You All.
AND>>>>>>>>>>>
DO NOT GIVE UP,, EVER !
Comment by Richard Theisen — March 5, 2009 @ 1:40 pm
The advocate got back to me today. I took my son to meet her.
Turns out that I do have to file a report with the sheriff. The advocate has a close personal friend who happens to be a CPS worker but she also has an autistic child and the advocate has an autistic child.
When I told the CPS worker that they don’t even want me back there she freaked out and said that that is a big red flag. I told her that I know it is and I don’t want to take him back but until I know for sure that I don’t have to legally my hands are tied.
My son told her about the timeout room.
THEY REALLY F*CKED UP THIS TIME! THEY PUT HIM IN THE TIMEOUT ROOM AGAIN TODAY AND THIS TIME THEY SHUT THE DOOR ON HIM.
THEY DRAGGED HIM IN BY HIS RIGHT EAR AND PULLED SO HARD THAT HE HEARD A CRACKING SOUND!
THE CPS WORKER IS OUT FOR BLOOD NOW.
The advocate had me tell her about the other kids in the school and I told the CPS worker that according to the school councelor all of the kids in that class wet themselves.
The advocate is out for blood too. I finally hooked up with the right people and they are going to help me pull him out of school and hook me up with an attorney and an opportunity to homeschool.
Both of them have worked with several parents and their kids on these sort of things and helped them get their justice. I know people who have personally worked with them.
When my son is well rested tomorrow, I will talk with a sheriff and have my son tell him as much as possible. I would prefer that the advocate is with me so that I have a witness there when I make the report. I am so relieved that he doesn’t have to go back to that school.
I am still very cautious about CPS caseworkers, cops and advocates. I still have a very bad feeling. But I’m hopeful that this time my son doesn’t get tortured by the government. I just couldn’t live with myself if he was miserable for the rest of his life because I tried to protect him.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 5, 2009 @ 8:16 pm
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone from this site.
My family has been the victim of CPS for almost two years now. I came across this site a few months ago, and the advise and information I received here has helped me out tremendously.
I spent two years in a state of depression, feeling alone and like nobody understood.
I have been violated all over the place, and sent to jail because I was non compliant with their family service plan, that was not getting me any closer to my children anyway.
Finding this site, gave me new hope and I am happy to report, that I had a court hearing yesterday, and thanks to all the great advise. I was able to get liberal visitation with my children and over nights for the weekend. This has been a long time coming. I have up to this point only had 1.5 hours a week that was supervised.
I would have demanded they be returned all together, but I recently moved into another school district, and did not want to make my children suffer anymore. So it was agreed that for this reason, they will stay where they are at, and at the end of the school year as long as I stick to their plan, we will have a review and they will come home as long as I stick to their plan. Which has already been completed. Now I just stay on top of them and make sure they are doing what they are supposed to.
It felt great to be prepared for court and to have all the documents to back up my claims. I could not have done it without the help of this site.
Thank You!
Comment by Sharon — March 6, 2009 @ 3:03 am
Hey y’all, read the story on the front page of AFRA. It’s about this DHS nazi who got evicted from her home & left it trashed with cat poop & God knows what else. What’s especially disturbing is the fact that she left boxes of documents containing kid’s social security #’s, dates of birth & a lotta other confidential information. What the hell is she keeping this for? I wonder HOW MANY OTHER CPS WORKERS ARE DOING THE SAME THING & HAVEN’T BEEN CAUGHT??? Those condescending b*tches had the nerve to say my home was ‘cluttered’ & snatched my kids after a 6 month long witch hunt, yet it’s ok to steal someone’s identity and ruin children’s lives forever! This system SUCKS!
Comment by Susan — March 6, 2009 @ 5:45 am
Hi everyone-
This is my first time posting on here, I used to work for CPS. I wanted to share my experience, in hopes that it will continue to encourage all of you to fight CPS for the god given right you all have to be with your families (the most important institution god ever created)..
It all started innocently enough at a career fair in college, I was offered a job to help protect kids from abuse, it sounded pretty good to me because who wouldn’t want to protect innocent kids from abuse?? well, that all changed after about a month when i was told that i had to place a child in foster care. I asked why? Especially when there were family members available to take the child. I was told by my supervisor that we needed to complete a thorough homestudy and that the child was at immiment risk and needed to be placed. It was 4:30 pm and they didnt have time to do background checks since work ended at 4:30 (yea i know, DISGUSTING). The home was roach infested and very dirty, but we had room at a shelter to keep the family until an exterminator could come, my pleading w/my supervisor didnt matter. They filled out the placement forms and I was told to take the child to the foster home. THis was traumatic for the child, and I ask god everyday for forgiveness for my role in this situation…I pray that this child will be reunited with their family and when they close their eyes at night they dont see me as the evil person who took them away from their parents. Unfortunatly this is a fact of life i will have to live with.
The next day, when I got into work, I was told that I needed to fill out a financial form for the county immediately so that the funding for the foster care placement could occur. This made me sick. The first thing they could think about was MONEY when an innocent child was ripped from the loving arms of it’s parents. Ugh, it still makes me sick. Needless to say, I gave my two weeks notice a month later b/c my conscience just couldn’t take it anymore…I can tell you all that money is a huge driving force behind child protective services, it makes me sick, I’m seriously thinking about going back to school and becoming a family rights attorney, i also want to write a book. Thank god for this website, it completly verified every suspicion I have had about CPS agencies.
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you that are being victimized unfairly by CPS agencies. I pray that you can live your lives with your children in peace.
~Linda
Comment by L Smith — March 6, 2009 @ 6:15 pm
Jo Lisa-
This sounds like student abuse to me, which should be prosecuted against. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Your son deserves much better than this horrible treatment from the school
Comment by L Smith — March 6, 2009 @ 6:20 pm
My name is Karina and I am 22 years old. I have written here before but I never fully put out my whole story. My case began Sept 07 and still is going. I have always had problems with my sons father as well at his family. It began when my son was born. The father had left me 2 months into the pregnancy. Being 19 with no family support I felt it was right that my son would be adopted to a family who could raise him. When my son was born the adoption process started. The father was notified and he contacted me. He begged me to not go through with this. His mother had talked to me and had told me I would be able to go to school and still have a life and be a mother at the same time. I was thrilled! Knowing I could continue college and be a mother and have a family was the best. After staying at the fathers house for 2 weeks I decided it was best to leave. The grandmother had seemed to boss me around and was constantly yelling. She would let her son leave late at night to go smoke pot with his friends and leave me home at night. I left and moved with my high school friend. A few weeks after I had left I recieved my first CPS call. They had left a note at my friends house saying they needed to contact me. They recieved a call saying my son was in danger and had never seen a doctor or had medical insurence. The CPS went to my fathers house and talked to him. My dad had told them that this was a fake call. He knew my son was in great hands. Still CPS had to follow their orders. They left their number and my dad had said call them. I called them about 3 times and I left my number. I never got a call back and I had told my dad. He said if they dont call you and you tried then theres not more you can do. I called the father and told him why is your mother calling CPS on me? He said that his mom did it because she was afraid for my son because he wasnt with her. I later had an innocent with my son. He was put in the hospital for an allergic reaction to isomil formula. The grandmother had blamed me for him being sick. A social worker was there to investigate the issue of why he was there. The grandmother had made a huge deal and started yelling. When she left the social worker had said that the grandmother was not mentally stable to even be taking care of my son. The grandmother had her daughter pretend to be a foster mother and they tried to discharge my son and take him away. How do I know this? It was because when I was visiting my son the charge nurse walked in and asked me who I was. When I stated that I was the mother she looked at me odd. She stated that my sons mother gave him up for adoption and the foster mother and paternal grandmother were trying to discharge my son. We had a big issue there. Another time I had a CPS call was when I had just had my daughter. The police came to my house looking for me. They said they had CPS contact them to find me because they got a call about my son being beat as well as myself from my ex boyfriend. The CPS worker came the next morning and we talked for 30 minutes. I showed her my son had medical insurence and showed where he slept and so forth. She didnt seem like anything was wrong. I told her can we please stop these calls. I proved to you nothing was wrong you see it so can it stop. About a year later a few events had happened with friends. I stopped being friends with some people and began to be harassed. I got death threats and so forth. I never called the cops because I never had the proof that it was my enemies that were saying it. A cop said they couldnt trace the numbers from my phone. I took my last option and called my sons father. His mother said I could stay with them until things calmed down. I was there 9 days and my ex had offered me to move to his place to get away from the drama. Finally a safe place! I planned to fly up and see if it was ok for my kids also. I disussed it with the grandmother and father and they agreed to watch my son. They didnt agree to watch my daughter even though they knew my daughter could have been theirs. I called my friend I went to school with and said I would pay her for babysitting if she could watch my daughter. She agreed. The grandmother and father knew the place my friend stayed at was a drug hotel. The paternal aunt took me to the airport and dropped off my daughter with my friend. 2 days after that I got a call from the father saying my daughter was missing and a social worker took my son. He had no idea why. I flew home on the next flight and got home as fast as I could. The social worker I called stated they got a call of abadonment. They said court was the next day and I would find things out then. My daughter was with my ex who the the assumed father. I had to call the cops to have me escorted to their house to have my daughter removed. When I arrived my ex best friend was holding my daughter. The 3 cops had said this is the biological mother and she wants her daughter back. The mother had said well my son is the father. My ex steped in and said yes I am her father and I want her. I looked at the cops and the cop had asked do you have proof? He studdered and said no sir I do not. The cop said well no proof means you cant keep her so please release her to her mother. My ex best friend shoved her in my arms while the mother started to raise her voice on how terriable I was. The cop said I understand ma’am but thats not the issue here. I left and tried to relax and think about court. The paternal grandmother and her daughter dropped by where I was staying to give me my stuff and say they will see me at court. Finally I go to court and recieve my report. My jaw dropped when I read the report. Comes to find out that I was tricked. The paternal grandmother and aunt had called CPS on a abadonment situation. They said they had no idea where I was and I ran off to meet a guy off the internet and planned to move in with him. They feared I was doing drugs and using meth in their home. They also said I was extreamly violent and abusive and neglectful of my sons medical needs. Saying he had no medical insurence. The aunt said I stayed up late and slept throughout the day while my kids played. She said I had big red bumps on my face that never seemed to go away and it was because of meth. Horrified at what I read I looked at the father aunt and grandmother with the meanest look. I knew they were doing this out of payback. They were upset that I wouldnt leave my son with his father full time. They took my daughter and put her in foster care. The court awarded care of my son to his father. I thought this is my chance to prove them wrong. I pulled up emails and im’s from the father. He stated how he was mentally unstable and how his mother beats him and how he tried to kill himself. His brother lives at the house and he constantly beats on him. I showed the social worker where I lived and how clean my room was and talked with her. It seemed like she didnt care. The court never cared about the proof on the father or mother. They said because it was 3 years old that it was useless information. The next report came in and it was bigger than the first. This time is was filled with new witnesses. My enemies. The ones who harassed me. The alleged father who was my ex made up this story on why we broke up and that I was crazy. My ex best friend said how I use to hand my daughter off to her because I was too tired to take care of her and she complained about not having a life. The alleged grandmother had said that I made a mess in her house raised her bills and caused problems with all her kids. My ex bf who was the allged father had his gf make a report. I never talked to this girl. Yet they took her statement as well as 2 other people who I hardly talked to. My sister made a report on me. She backstabbed me out of anger for having my son taken away. I told this social worker why is any of this useful? Do you not know these are statements from people who hate me and are getting revenge? She blew me off. DNA test came back to show my ex was not the father of my daughter and my sons dad was. That whole family dropped out of the case. If what they said was so true and they were there to protect my daughter why didnt they stay to prove it to be true? It proves that I’m right. They did it to pay me back and left when they found out she wasnt theirs. The paternal grandmother who had said constatly that she wanted nothing to do with my daughter now had a change of heart. she claimed she wanted my daughter even thought the father didnt. I became close with the foster family. Rare but it was luck. This family has the biggest heart and actually loved my daughter. Thats all I wanted. The paternal family fought and fought to have her removed and made up stories on the foster family. They tried to have the paternal great aunt and uncle adopt my daughter when they knew nothing about her. In the end the foster family won. A relief. I knew the paternal family wasnt doing this to keep my kids close they were trying to keep my kids away from me. As of now my case is closing. My daughter will be adopted with the foster family and I am happy. They adopted my last son and I see him when I fly up there. I get pictures and updates and we text most of the time about how they are doing. This has been a long and hard struggle for me doing this on my own with no family support. I had some family step in at the last minute when they realized I wanted my 2 kids to be adopted to this foster family. As of now I have no contact with my son. I ask for updates and get blunt vague answers. Like when I ask how he is doing I get a oh hes ok. When I ask what he is doing thats new I get oh he learned bigger words. Its like what bigger words? Give me detail I cant know off of little things like that. I get no pictures and the past 2 times I have been flaked on for a visit.
Comment by Karina — March 6, 2009 @ 6:53 pm
L Smith- Go to law school. People need your help.
Thank you for posting. Please consider joining the member’s forum.
Maggie
Comment by MaggieC — March 6, 2009 @ 7:24 pm
Time to change DPHHS, Too many children are being hurt by the system which is to protect them.
I am one of many concerned Foster Parents with the Butte DPHHS. We have requested meetings with Ryan Tofflemire the Regional Administrator with DPHHS. The Case Workers, Supervisors and Family Resource Workers have been dishonest with us, the Court, Foster Care Committee Review Members and others. Policies and the best interest for the children are disregarded.
The request made to Ryan Tofflemire are listed below:
By email, Nov., 14, 2008
When are you going to take over as the Regional Admin.? Foster Parents from the Butte area would like to met with you.
Ryan Tofflemires response :
Hello,
I will begin as Regional Administrator on Dec. 8th. however I am slowly trying to learn more about the successes and challenges of each county before I start. I would appreciate any feedback you can offer.
Thanks
Ryan Tofflemire, Bureau Chief
Centralized Intake
(406)444-4164
From: RLUKY@aol.com [mailto:RLUKY@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:25 PM
To: Tofflemire, Ryan
Subject: Concerned Foster Parents
Dec. 2008,
By phone Ryan Tofflemire said he would meet with us after the first of the year.
Feb. 9, 2009
Ryan Tofflemire,
I’m writing requesting a meeting with you regarding concerns within the Dept. There are several other Foster Families, Therapist, Lawyers, Family Outreach, Past Foster Families, and others with the same concerns. I believe it would benefit all involve if we could all have an open discussion regarding these concerns. Some of the concerns are dishonesty, licensing issues, best interest for the children in foster care and other concerns. I believe this meeting should include present/past Foster Families, Therapist, Lawyers, Family Outreach, Guardian ad Litems, Foster Care Committee Review, Judges, Tribes, FRS Workers, Case Workers, Supervisors and News Media.
Comment by Roberta Rawson — March 7, 2009 @ 10:23 am
How can I email Dr, Shirley Moore?
Comment by Roberta Rawson — March 7, 2009 @ 10:29 am
Hi everyone. I lost my children two years ago. My mother is still trying to get custody, she does have visits. I haven’t seen my children in two years and am expecting another child. I just come here to read Linda’s site and she is always in the know about CPS. Thanks Linda.
Comment by belly — March 9, 2009 @ 12:05 am
What an amazing 4 days! I met with my advocate again on Friday to look over the written notices that are being given to the school amongest other places like the Rochester District’s superintendent. They all say the same thing. I signed them and she took me both places but she let me stay in her van while she served them.
She said that it was better for her to go alone because they would just argue with me and that since they don’t know her it would be pointless to argue with someone they have never met before.
When she came back out she brought me the originals with date stamp received and the individual’s initials on the one for the school. She said that they didn’t even read it first, just copied it and stamped the original!
The advocate told me not to answer my phone because they may call and harrass me. It’s better to get it recorded than to not have a witness.
Here it is, Monday…
AND THEY STILL HAVEN’T CALLED ME!
That makes me a little nervous because now I don’t have an idea what they are up to, and my advocate told me that Rochester School District plays hardball.
I also found out on Friday that according to Washington State law, my son didn’t have to start school until his 8th birthday! That means that they can’t even call BECA until the day of his 8th birthday which won’t be until the end of the month.
I saw a woman today who teaches a course in homeschooling. You don’t have to go to college for this or even finish highschool. You just take the course, get the certificate that says that you qualify to homeschool, put your notice of intent to homeschool and voila! It’s official.
Everything is included for only $150.00!
My son had 3 days to decompress and then today we started school. The advocate said that this is important because if they try to make the BECA bill apply to him, I can show them that he has been doing school work.
I have to say that it was a lot more fun than I ever thought it would be! Not just for me but for both of us. What they can’t even get him to do in one school day I got him to do in 1 hour!!!!
We worked on handwriting, reading and comprehension, math and science. He was able to take breaks as he needed but mostly he just wanted to keep going! When I had to leave to meet the homeschool course teacher, he was bugging me to stay and teach him some more!
While I was gone he watched the Animal Plannet and had a decent recess, had a snack and was watching Milo and Otis when I got back. He wanted to have more school time! So now that i have a few minutes to myself I hooked him up on my laptop to play the pbskids games, (which he actually prefers to videogames!) and I get to get caught up on email and such. Then we will play a game, do the bedtime routine and read before I rock him to sleep.
I was told by several parents of autistic children that it’s okay that I still rock him, that it is a sensory and security thing. So I know now that I am not the only person rocking a 7 year old to sleep every night.
I will keep everyone posted. I am still waiting to hear back from the detective I reported the abuse to on Saturday. The sooner the better because my advocate wants to alert the media and picket at the school.
She is such a God-send and she is actually doing MOST of the footwork for me and even hooked me up with an attorney friend of hers that is willing to take on the school about the abuse. She helps people in Oregon too and is trying to expand nationally.
My husband is telling me to get off of his laptop and to use my own and I would be happy to if my son wasn’t using mine right now but I need to go study anyway so bye for now.
God bless all of you…
If anyone has issues with a special needs child, you can email her at info@wyattshouse.org
She doesn’t get paid for her services and she is the founder of the organization so you don’t have to worry about her having the incentive to help CPS.
She isn’t a fan of theirs!
Comment by Jolisa Lindbloom — March 9, 2009 @ 6:51 pm
My youngest daughter is involved with DFS right now. For the last 18 months they have had custody of her three children, ages 3, 8, 10. She has been accused of taking drugs and has had to go thru their requirements. I petitioned for guardianship of the oldest son, 10, and now my life is also being dragged thru the mud. Trouble is, my kids step mother is feeding right into DFS lies by propagating her own! Would love to be able to sue for slander and defamation. March 27 is my daughters (last??) hearing. I’ve been in the courtroom for the last two. All it basically is, is them telling stories and seemingly having a good time wasting time. My daughter has a court appointed lawyer that seems and sounds like he is on her/our side and i sincerely hope he is. I got paperwork the other day that DFS recommends that the oldest son should be TPR and put out for adoption! I am beside myself and do not know what to do. We cannot afford a lawyer for ourselves and probably would not have time to find a sympathetic one anyway now. I just found these sites the other day and what an eye opener it is to read all this! There is a lot of help on here. Can someone tell me how to go about spreading the word? Are there pamphlets to hand out? Can we copy and paste to make a pamphlet to share with people who need this kind of help?
Comment by Maggie Bodine — March 9, 2009 @ 8:55 pm
JoLisa, this makes me so happy, to hear you’re trying homeschooling and you have an advocate on your side. I homeschooled my two youngest children and will always treasure those memories and be glad that I did it.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 9, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
Sharon, your message really made my day… I am so happy to hear that FightCPS helped you get longer (and unsupervised!) visits with your children. This is usually a good sign they will be allowed home soon.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 9, 2009 @ 9:07 pm
Dear Jolisa
Is this a public school that has the “time out” room? I have a home day care, I’m not allowed to place children in time out period.
I have to communicate with the child
( at their level of understanding) about their behavior, and at most I can take the child aside and speak with them privately concerning behavioral issues.
Children do not respond positive to negative behavior.The teacher and other staff, are acting in a negitive manner towards your son.
In my opinion this “Time Out” room is inappropiate, to say the least.
Many years ago my son (who is autistic) was in a hospital for behavoral management/medication change. They had a “time out” room. However they were trained medical personel.
It saddens me to think a teacher, can’t manage the children intrusted to her, without dragging them off to a locked room.
If a parent were to do that, CPS would be right in their face.
I’m so sorry about the situation your family is in, with this so called school.
Comment by fran — March 10, 2009 @ 8:31 am
I’m currently taking classes to earn my associates in “Early Childhood Development”. I was surprised at some of the remarks in one of my text books concerning what constitutes abuse and neglect. I was also surprised to read that in 2006, funding was given to each state to further define what constitutes, abuse and or neglect. It would be interesting to see if the number of children removed from their homes, have increased since the implement of this new definition.
Comment by fran — March 10, 2009 @ 8:44 am
Linda Jo, and Fran,
The detective called me today to make an appointment so we can meet and talk. He told me that he needs to speak to my son alone and that he will spend as much time as needed to gather all of the information.
What I find disturbing is that he refuses to even let the advocate or someone else that my son knows be in there with him.
My son shuts down around strangers and is absolutely terrified of anyone who tells him that he can’t have his mother.
We meet at 1:30 tomorrow. I called my advocate and told her that I want her there anyway, because if I can’t be in the room with him I want someone neutral that can be there for him if he shuts down so that he has a familiar face to calm him.
I always thought that nobody could ask a minor questions without a parent or attorney present. My son is going to freak out and his reactions to stress and fear are unpredictable and sometimes violent. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want my child to be afraid. It concerns me that they may have already talked to the school and that now they are trying to make a case against me.
If I tell him that he is going to have to talk to an officer tomorrow, he will have a lot of anxiety and I could be acused of causing it. If I don’t say anything about it, they might end up thinking that I provoked that type of responce out of him.
Meanwhile, he is still being homeschooled. I told him he only had to do 1 page in each work book today and then he can play on pbskids.org I think it is an adiction of his!
Anyone with some good advice? Please let me know!!!!
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 10, 2009 @ 5:36 pm
Dear Jolisa
Is this officer talking to your son about the events at school. (Time Out Room)?
I wouldn’t let the officer talk to my child alone. Please have your advacate there in the room with your son.
I know you had mentioned your son being autistic. All the more reason.
Comment by fran — March 11, 2009 @ 4:14 am
JoLisa-
Please do not allow him to speak to your son alone. Explain in a firm but polite manner, that his medical needs must be met, which means a familiar face present, be it yours or the advocates’. Usually the officer, if he is really there to discuss the proper complaint, will agree to meeting the child’s special needs. Of course, so long as the child is calm, the advocate should not interfere with the conversation. A good compromise that the detective should accept as proper.
If this officer is not budging on the subject, then it is likely you are correct, and he is NOT there to act on your complaint, but someone elses complaint about you.
Detectives are persons too and as such, they make assumptions. Once they have an assumption in their head, they act on proving it and nothing else. All else is left out of the interview.
PLEASE insist on the advocate!
Comment by Cheryl — March 11, 2009 @ 11:13 am
To continue, should the detective disallow the advocate, you need to politely state that you a re disallowing the interview until both of you can come to clear agreement on the terms of the interview; at which time, you will be happy to reschedule.
I say this from experience with this very situation some years ago. The detective went way off track during the interview, from the original complaint. Needless to say, it ended very badly for the mother and child.
Also, because the parents had given permission to the detective, they waived their rights (under the law) so none of the information was admisable in court for their suit…which was later abandoned by their atty. Once an atty requests off your case, it sends a clear picture to other attyts that this case is screwed. Good luck finding a replacement atty once this happens.
I don’t want to see this happen to you. Your case is strong!
Comment by Cheryl — March 11, 2009 @ 11:19 am
Update,
My son was allowed to have the advocate there in the room during the interview.
I called her imediately after scheduling the appointment and she had an extended conversation with the detective. He still insisted in speaking with my son alone.
Fortunately, the detective had the night to think it over and at the time of the meeting, he did allow the advocate to be in there the entire time, and she was able to assist him much further in the investigation. There were a lot of key facts that my son would have left out if it wasn’t for the advocate, and she was also able to learn things during the interview that my son hadn’t yet told me.
One of them was the fact that they threaten the kids in that class every day that if they don’t shut up they will call CPS. No wonder all of the kids wet themselves, they are terrified that they will be taken away from their parents!
I also found out that on Tuesday, (last week,) that my son had left school property when he ran from the classroom. So in essence, they were covering their own asses and at the same time using the timeout room as a diversion so that I would think that my son did something wrong.
Did I mention that the book they made about him said that if he was really bad he had to go to the timeout room? They made him stand in the doorway of the timeout room so that they could take a picture of him and consequently was a part of the book.
I NEVER TELL MY SON THAT HE IS BAD! I NEVER THREATEN HIM OR PUT HIM DOWN AND UNLESS HE IS HARMING HIMSELF OR SOMEONE ELSE I DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES PUT MY HANDS ON HIM!
HE IS A VERY SWEET, SENSITIVE LITTLE BOY AND THE BEST WAY TO GET HIS ATTENTION IS TO TALK TO HIM IN A CALM AND QUIET VOICE. THE BEST WAY TO CALM HIM IS TO GENTLY STROKE HIS CHEEK OR THE BACK OF HIS HEAD.
I can’t imagine living in a constant state of terror every time I went to school. I know that autistic people do live in a constant state of fear that lasts throughout their lives and that even the smallest sign of stress or change in routine can increase that fear so at best we have to provide controled enviornment so that they feel secure.
PRAISE BE TO GOD THAT MY SON WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE THE ADVOCATE WITH HIM DURING THE INTERVIEW.
WE WENT TO CHURCH YESTERDAY FOR PRAYER BEFORE THE DETECTIVE CALLED ME, I SPOKE WITH HIM ON THE PHONE WHILE WE WERE STILL AT CHURCH, I CALLED THE ADVOCATE WHILE WE WERE AT CHURCH AND SHE SPOKE TO THE DETECTIVE WHILE WE WERE STILL AT CHURCH.
I PRAYED OVER THE INTERVIEW AGAIN THIS MORNING AND WE LISTENED TO CHRISTIAN MUSIC ON THE WAY TO THE INTERVIEW.
NEVER, EVER, EVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF PRAYER! WE HAD GOD ON OUR SIDE WHEN WE WENT TO BATTLE AND HE KEPT THE EVIL FROM TOUCHING MY BABY BOY!
God bless all of you and your families. Spread the word and build upon the faith of others. He does exist and there is nothing that the enimy can do to you when you are protected under God’s umbrella.
Any time in my life that I have tried to take something on that was obviously too big for me, (like this,) I failed because I thought I could do it myself.
Every time I turn to God and give Him the something that is obviously too big for me…
HE JUST TAKES CARE OF IT.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 11, 2009 @ 10:24 pm
Dear JoLisa
I’m so glad to hear that your son had an advocate.
Now that I know how the system works, under no circumstances would I allow my child to be questioned by anyone without an advocate or lawyer present.
In your case you have a law suit against the school. You have to be to extra diligent
A time out room? It makes me sick. If a parent did that their butts would be carted off to jail. What is this school thinking?
Are they trained to deal with children with special needs? I hope you are able to sue and they learn that they can’t treat children that way.
As I have stated before I have an autistic son. (he is 27 now) I also provide child care for an autistic child who is 8. When he gets upset or over stimulated I stroke his hand, and speak to him in a calm reassuring voice. This calms him down. I can’t image him in some sort of room locked up like an animal. He would flip.
When I had dealings with CPS over my son, I prayed and God intervened. I’m Catholic and I also asked The Blessed Mother to intervene on our behalf as mother to mother.
Faith can move mountains.
Comment by fran — March 12, 2009 @ 3:52 am
Fran,
The advocate emailed me today. She said that she talked to the detective today and he told her that he already has 22 statements from school staff.
MY SON DOESN’T EVEN KNOW 22 STAFF MEMBERS AT THAT SCHOOL, AND TWO OF THE THREE TEACHERS THAT HURT HIM HE DOESN’T KNOW THEIR NAMES.
My curiosity goes towards the statements. Did they all say the exact same thing? The advocate told me to be expecting turbelence to come our way very soon. I’m just keeping my eyes on God and enjoying the time with my son.
Teaching is going to be a challenge, yet he has already done more in the last four days then they could ever get him to do over several weeks time…
AND THAT INCLUDES CREATIVE WRITING!
I am using the same strategies that his teacher from last year used and I am getting BIG results! Tomorrow I give him his first spelling test.
Today we did an art project combining it with creative writing and the success was like running a hot knife through butter.
We pieced together a bunny out of several types of construction paper and below was a piece of white lined paper on more construction paper, the bunny glued on top. It was titled, THREE EASTER FACTS. He wrote down three sentences, (Easter Facts,) and at the bottom it said By: and he signed his name.
This was a regular learing tool that the teacher used last year to teach the kids and it made all the difference in the world to my son because autistic people respond to color and music. They are much more likely to remember what they learn if it is hands on and full of color, or if it is made into a song.
His handwriting is steadily improving and has drastically improved since last week! And we are both enjoying ourselves. I am already planning art classes, cooking experiments and fieldtrips.
The rest is still kind of text book right now, but it is colorful and interesting and he can do it at his own pace, taking breaks, stretching and munching on snacks throughout so that he doesn’t get over stimulated and is getting ALL of his needs met.
All of the encouragement and praise he wasn’t getting at school he is just soaking up from me.
AND HIS HAPPY GLOW IS COMING BACK!
You can hardly tell that is the same kid from a week ago because his smile is so bright that it matches the sun.
There is still a small chance that things could come out badly, especially where CPS is concerned. There are a lot of people at that school that will call my son a liar like they have been doing all year. The kids at that school are afraid to talk because of the daily terrorism caused by school staff.
Please pray for me…God bless you, Fran
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 13, 2009 @ 2:19 am
Time to change DPHHS, Too many children are being hurt by the system which is to protect them!!! I am one of many foster parents in Montana having problems with dishonest CPS wokers, DPHHS violating their policies, license issues, do not care about the best interest of the children and abuse of power. In our case the childrens parents wishes were that the children where to be adopted by us. The parents saw that we love the children, in the 22 months the we had the children. DPHHS placed the children in a home in which the GAL, Foster Care Committee Review members and others feel that home is not in the childrens best interest. My heart goes out to those parents being abused by the system. Are there any other Foster Parent with the same issues?
Comment by Roberta Rawson — March 13, 2009 @ 7:43 am
Dear JoLisa
Your family will be in my prays. It’s time parents take back control in our children’s lives from the public school system. My son attended public school. CPS was involved twice.
Once when he was just learning ASL, which I had taught him. He picked up on it right away! However the school refused to provide an interpreter. Of course he was misunderstood and frustrated. His teacher was great, but the administration refused every request we had. We hired a lawyer to get services. They called CPS and stated, He wasn’t autistic and I was just saying this.
THE SCHOOL TESTED HIM!
They waited to call when his teacher was out with a family illness. We already had the lawyer and the case was dropped. But the damage was done. My son learned you can’t trust people. Before he was a loving trusting child, but he learned people lie. The school called us in and asked for our forgiveness. (I know unheard of). I consider myself a Christian, but Lord forgive I could not forgive them and I told them so.
I finally went on with my life, knowing that I had to be careful and ever watchful.
When my son entered high school, he was placed in a duel program, that was too stimulating. I complained numerous times. I was in the principles office almost daily because they couldn’t handle my son. I asked repeatedly that he be placed in a program that dealt with autistic children.
The answer was always “NO”. Well I started to research and discovered that they couldn’t send him home for his behavior as often as they did. That was admitting they couldn’t provide services. I hired another lawyer and forced them to place him in the correct program.
However before doing so the school called stating “He wasn’t on the correct medication”. Well this went no where, because the school had no license to practice medicine.
I also had a run in concerning my daughter. It’s very painful to talk about. It was a fellow Christian who did not agree with our choice of schooling. We were of different faiths, and our daughter attends a faith based program.
She concerning her views on the schooling issue.
They were like a dog with a bone. They wanted us to take her out of our faith based school and place her in public school. I refused! I was scared to death, but I refused.
This was our choice as parents to decide what education to provide for our child.
I had already had enough of the public school system. Don’t get me wrong, my son had some great teachers, but the then there were those few that should have never been in charge of caring for a dog, much less special needs children. On top of that the administrators bottom line is always funding.
CPS caught themselves in a web of lies with one of their own investigators. This person refused to back up their lies for fear of a lawsuit. (his words not mine).
I know the Lord was watching out for us.
I still have to see this exfriend, and so called fellow Christian around. I can’t understand how she calls herslf a Christain.
What is so painful is that, it was something that should have never been investagated. It should have been dropped at the time of intake.
However the investagator was young and was taking orders via phone from her supervisor.
Someday I’ll go into detail about it, but even through years have past, it’s still too painful.
I believe in home schooling and faith based schools. I’ve lost all faith in the public school system.
If your son is happy and progressing, that’s what matters. I don’t know anything about operating a home school myself. I don’t know the regulations or laws concerning what’s required. I’m sure people on this site, and online sites can help you ensure you meet whatever requirements the state may require.
God Bless and God Keep, Fran
Comment by fran — March 13, 2009 @ 10:33 am
I have been goig through this mess since Aug., they couldn’t take my children away when my ex-husband accused me of:
1. Meth abuse
2. Leaving my children alone, ages 14, 12, and 8, all the time.
3. Never cleaning my house.
4.Never feeding my children.
5. Being a danger to myself and my children, I have ADD/ Borderline Personality Disorder, I have been on meds for years and in counseling also to keep the chemical imbalances in control.
6. My oldest son was mentally ill and could not watch his brothers, he has ADD, and his IQ is above average, they just tested him a few months ago.
They have been taking random drug screens since Aug. I have passed them all, I only get 700.00 a month and none of my utilities have been cut off. I can’t work due to Chrohn’s disease in my former nursing profession, but I am taking classes for Child Psychology, I am 41 years old have a 4.0 GPA, and they finally took my kids in January over hot checks he had forged my name on. I had already beat a couple of them in misdemeanor court, but when they combined them into a felony, I cannot take the chance of the jury not believing me and having that on my record, I would never be able to practice my new proffession. I am the neighborhood mom, on the holidays, weekends, and summertime there is no telling how many kids are going to be in the house ranging in age from 7-17. We go to the river and the parents know that they will get their kids back safe and sound because I don’t even drink.
I have had to see their psychiatrist, who found nothing wrong with me, but after the check thing they took my kids and told me as soon as I paid it off my ’state appointed attorney’ would petition the judge to get my kids back to me, that has been 6 wks since I paid off the fines and they dropped all charges against me.
My youngest has been in a youth mental health facility twice since they took him from me because he wants to be home so badly, and my oldest two are so withdrawn it isn’t funny.
I want my kids back, I have done nothing wrong or they would have taken them in Aug when he started all this mess. My life is my children, I am the mother that will stay up two nights in a row to make sure the sailboat that I made for the Valentine’s Day Box is just perfect, this year I made my youngest a paddlewheel boat. But nobody will return my calls, I can’t get in touch with my caseworker or my lawyer, and I am so tired…. Can anyone help me.
My name has been tarnished, my reputation and my children’s also. We cannot take much more of this. Please someone help us, I want to sue the state of Arkansas because there was no reason to keep it open after the initial 30 day investigation, yet they did. I have done everything they wanted me to do and they were sure quick enough to find a reason to get them out of here, but are taking their own sweet time bringing them home. Please help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Katherine Keckler — March 13, 2009 @ 10:55 am
Fran,
The advocate emailed me again. She said that King 5 news still hasn’t gotten back to her. We want to get the word out that children are being abused in that school as soon as possible.
She also said that the detective told her that some of the school staff are backing up what my son told us!
Even if they don’t get any charges pressed against them by the prosecuting attorney, the school district is a lot more likely to be careful in the manner that they handle the kids from this point on.
Without the media coverage, the rest of the kids abused in that school may never talk about it and their parents are still clueless about it or are aware but don’t know what to do to stop it.
Really, if it wasn’t for the advocate, my son would still be in school and both of us would still be intimidated of what they could do to us if we, “stepped out of line.” I keep telling her that she is a God-send.
She just may be a guardian angel!
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 13, 2009 @ 1:47 pm
Fran,
I told the advocate that when this is all over with, I want to join her advocasy team. Nothing pisses me off more than someone who bullies a helpless individual! Parents need to know that there are advocates out there that will help them keep their kids safe!
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 13, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
this is how bad CPS has gotten they have promoted Garry Besley to assit dist mgr of northern cal as he sit on his *&^%&*(^%#
and gets a pay check for it. This man should have been fired long time ago , when he did fallow up with his employees and let them do what ever they wanted as he vaca, on us the tax payer at the end of what was going on with my case he stepped in trying to make good. he is a lier, and i will be bring on a law suite against him and his wrong doing
this is as bad as giving Beverly Besley, the job of dist mgr over north cal.
is there a family member working for each other ????? its cps they came do anything they want
Garry how was your holidays with your family, I would know u let a women beat my kids, let then stay in a homeless shelter,
i promiss if it tthe last thing i do you and beverly and your crew will be in front of a judge, now I disabled I have nothing to do but get you in a court room
Comment by Aaron — March 13, 2009 @ 4:36 pm
I want to apologize for not being on here much anymore, but my health is kinda sucky right now and I have the pleasure of my grandkids every weekend..
Please go to this link. It is an article about our Judge..
Thank you
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/6320226.html
Comment by diando — March 19, 2009 @ 2:22 pm
I’m so sorry about your health issues. I will pray for your speedy recovery.
Congrats on the grandkids visitation!!!
Comment by Cheryl — March 20, 2009 @ 7:00 am
Detective got back to the advocate. Said that we can’t proceed criminally at this time. Looks like we will have to picket the school. KOMO said that they were interested in my story, and a journalist called me but when I called back I heard nothing.
The last two weeks have been so busy I can barely have the energy to sleep! That’s right, I’m too tired to sleep.
I am only in the middle of chapter three of the homeschooling workbook and I only have one more week to get my certification. It’s a mad house. Anyone who has taken a homeschooling course, please email me at lindbloom_jm @ yahoo . com I need all of the help and support I can get!!
Thanks and God bless you all…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 20, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
Could some one look into why I was banned from this site? I’m kinda upset about it.
Comment by robyn — March 21, 2009 @ 4:40 am
Robyn, do you mean you’re banned from the message board? Did you get a ‘banned’ message when you tried to register? Please write to me in email: webmaster at fightcps.com - and tell me your username. I will try to find out the source of the problem.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 21, 2009 @ 5:18 am
i have a question. my social worker who is a one sided person has been telling my ex and his family every update on me that she can. i had asked her not to tell him anything about me because i dont want him knowing because he does things and has his mom and family harass me. is there something i can do about this?
Comment by Karina — March 21, 2009 @ 9:03 am
Karina - I would file for a state administrative hearing on the grounds that my privacy was being violated. That lets the state know your social worker is a snake in the grass and it will most likely shut her up long before the actual hearing date.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 21, 2009 @ 2:24 pm
URGENTLY NEED ASSISTANCE NOW!!!!
As of March 5, 2009, My son had his last day in public school. From this point on I will be homeschooling him. He was abused by school staff in the Rochester School District, Rochester WA. at Rochester Primary school.
Several school staff were involved, including the school principal, Karla Keyes, second grade teacher, Nancy Platzer, lab teacher, Christina Jacobson and at least two other teachers who’s names my son does not know. My child had to talk to a detective at the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office and I had to get a special needs advocate to help me get certified to homeschool and do a lot of other things to safeguard that my childs special needs are met. She also helped by taking photos and was a witness to my son’s remarks about what was happening to him before I was able to withdraw him from the school.
My son indicated that there are other children at that school who he has also seen abused by school staff. Seeking the assistance of the media, we contacted King 5 News to get the word out to other parents so that they may have their own investigations and protect their children. King 5 interviewed Principal Keyes, who admitted that there was an investigation going on and blew us off. Since then we have tried to get other news reporters to make public what is happening to these helpless children with no results. Short of picketing, we have thought of nearly everything possible to get the word out with no results.
The investigator received 26 statements from school staff and informed our advocate that they can not proceed crimimally at this point. Meanwhile, the rest of the children in that school are in danger. My little boy is safe now, after being relentlessly terrorized at that school for over six months, but there are so many children who are still very much in danger. I can’t stress this point enough. I am desperate to get the word out. Please help me help these helpless little victims who can’t fight back, and may not even be able to communicate verbally in their own defense.
This can not wait. Please get the word out.
Thanks and God bless you…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — March 22, 2009 @ 7:36 am
My case started in Dec. ‘06, I lost custody of my daughters in July ‘08 and a criminal case ensued. My court appointed attorney, my paid attorneys, CPS, CASA, the Ad Litems were all dishonest. Where do I turn now?
Comment by Jacquelyn — March 23, 2009 @ 9:25 am
Jacquelyn, have your parental rights been terminated, or are you still eligible for visitations?
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 23, 2009 @ 10:52 am
i know what other people are going thrrought i battled with cps in the courtroom for 8 years and lost due to layers lawyers didn’t do anything while in foster care my son overdosed on medication at 3 years old since he’s been adopted i know he was put in mental hospital and now just past month or two he’s in a group home and my hands are tied i am spitting mad our caseworker said our son was a special case . but i too know what it feels like to have your child stolen and ripped away from you and he is my only child .
Comment by Mary M. Painter — March 23, 2009 @ 11:40 pm
Mary, I’m so sorry about your grief, and your child’s trauma.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — March 24, 2009 @ 12:27 am
Please sign this petition.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/cps-and-family-court-reform.html
Comment by Karen — March 24, 2009 @ 11:23 am
Please take a few minutes to sign this petition
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/cps-and-family-court-reform.html
Comment by Barbara — March 24, 2009 @ 7:33 pm
Hi
I have been faulsly acused of putting my children in harms way. I did not know my rights and the cps worker seem to be very understanding and could see we where a normal family i signed paper shortly after with one silly term that i attend some rehabilatation counsel throught there office so for 2 months now i have been vistited 2s a month AND drug tested in front of my children and i still dont even really understand my rights in this. Can i start to refuse anything else they want from me telling them to take me to court before i will go on with this process anymore? I have nothing to be scared of.
Comment by angela — March 31, 2009 @ 7:45 am
Angela, speak with them one more time. Tell them that you will no longer be subjected to the harrassment of the services that they insist that you attend. Be firm and respectful. No more needs to be explained to them. Do not argue with them. Walk away. The longer you try to cooperate, the longer they and will make negative remarks in your file. If you don’t believe me, ask to see your full file. You will never see it. Do not trust them. Stop contact with them. Stand your ground and don’t let them coerce you any further. If you feel something is wrong, stop going along with it. If it tastes sour, stop chewing and spit it out. You know what is right in your heart. Trust it.
Comment by daaronad — March 31, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
Angela, Daaronad has it correct.
The more cooperative you remain, the longer this will go on and the more negative remarks will end up in your file.
They know how to waste time, and time is what they need. After a few months they will start saying that your bond with the kids is failing, then it will be something else.
End it!!!! Politely and respectfully. Trust me when I say…..I have already played this game and 17 months later we were so far from where it began for a stupid, unsubstanciated claim by an unknown caller that didn’t even know us!
Yes we won in the end, or did we? We got 2 of the kids back, they are both unhealthy and have mental/emotional bonding issues, spent $30K for independant attornies, could not afford a bigger house to raise kids in, which gives them another reason (later) to make life miserable. We always have to watch over our shoulders. We are nervous wrecks when we pass by a cop.
So did we win? NOPE.
Comment by Cheryl — April 1, 2009 @ 11:38 am
Angela again
So let me get this staight even though i did sign papers with them without a court order i do not have to comply i am in the US (texas)?
Comment by angela — April 1, 2009 @ 9:53 pm
Angela, if you signed papers and you quit being compliant, you may be taken to court. Have you consulted an attorney? For more feedback on your case please register at the FightCPS Message Board Forum.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — April 2, 2009 @ 9:05 am
Angela, I learned by hours of research at OKDHS. Go to Texas Department of Human Services and research their policies. In Texas, an investigation is normally completed within 30 days. What was the finding of the investigation? If court intervention was not requested, then anything that you do to cooperate with them is not required and totally voluntary on your part. YOU must research, because you know the specifics of your case. Write your letter of appeal, if it applies, simply for record. But most importantly, learn what is required of you and how not to waste your time and money by reading Texas DHS policies and regulations. Learn what questions you should be asking and you will get much better answers and end this intrusion into your families life once and for all. Keep asking questions. We are here to help.
Comment by daaronad — April 2, 2009 @ 4:36 pm