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Child Protective Services Agents - please come to your senses! Family destruction on false or trivial grounds is wrong, reprehensible, and inhumane.
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CPS workers and fosterers - I ask that you now let the children of the innocent return to their homes where they are truly valued, adored, and loved by the parents God gave them.
Family rights are God-given rights. And they should not be ignored or postponed. Every moment these loving parents and children spend separated from one another is a torment beyond what anyone should ever have to bear.
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Why I’m here: I had a cps case back in 2003, my now ex-husband molested my then 10 yr. old daughter and two of her friends. I was charged with failure to protect, even though I didn’t know of anything going on and was at work when this happened. They (cps) said that I knew and allowed him to do this. I can’t stress it enough, I didn’t have a clue, I wish I did, Michigan tax payers wouldn’t be supporting the moron sicko now if I had known.
Now my grand daughter was removed from her mother’s care due to drug use, my son isn’t working and is living with a friend of his so they won’t allow him to have her. Now cps is saying I can’t take care of her since this crap happened in my past. I was not at fault but I’m still being punished by them. I want to find a lawyer but can’t afford one, so my grand daughter is kept in foster care. The cps system here sucks and someone has to do something. I could giver her a loving home till her parents straighten out and can have her back but, I’m not good enough. There is alot more to this than I can say here so, anyone wanting to know more can contact me through here for now.
Thank you for allowing me to be here!
Linda
Comment by Linda Morris — January 3, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
Hi Linda,
I can empathize with you because I too had this same problem with CPS back in 1998 while I was living in Lansing Michigan. My son was being watched by a woman I had been friends with since we were pregnant with our children. While she was in an abusive relationship in Olympia Washington, I helped her to get away from her abuser. She moved in with me for a few years before I got married, and while I was living else-where I packed her up to go to Lansing while her boyfriend was in jail. He molested her daughter, who was also his own child.
When she got on her feet, I moved to Lansing to be with her because I was leaving a bad marriage. Once again, we were both pregnant. She started seeing the neighbor and they ended up moving in together. When she had her baby, a girl, she had him listed as the father because she was trying to protect her daughter from her sicko father. The guy she listed on the paternity papers turned out to be a child molester. Neither of us knew this fact for nearly a year. He was abusive to her and I tried to help her get away but he kept threatening to keep her from taking the baby. This pervert molested his own son whom he was given a permanent restraining order and divorce. He always referred to his ex-wife as a lying bitch. He insisted that there wasn’t any reason to be kept from his son. Before we had known his history, he had already molested our kids.
CPS took her kids three weeks before she even told me. She mysteriously stopped by about an hour before CPS came to my door. While I was clueless, her and her boyfriend made several false reports against me because they thought that I was the one who got her kids taken away. By then she was very pregnant with the perv’s baby. He tried to rape me. CPS told me that my son had drawn a picture of an circumsized penis and semen and a used condom. My son isn’t circumcized and I was single so he didn’t see used condoms around my home.
My home was clean for the most part, but we had a cold so they used my son’s runny nose against me. They said my kitchen was filthy and that there were bags of trash piled up in the dining room. They said that my home wasn’t safe. They informed me that my son was molested. They said that they were sending a detective to take a statement from my son the next day, which was his fourth birthday. Instead they showed up with six cops to take my son from me.
They intended to terminate my rights at the shelter hearing about an hour later. My son freaked out because he didn’t understand why he was being taken away. At the shelter hearing, the judge said my rights couldn’t be terminated. I was only allowed supervised visitation on Thursdays for two hours. They wouldn’t tell me what I had to do to get my son back. The physician performed an invasive examination on my son said there wasn’t any signs of molestation. When I went back to court, my attorney let me look at the accusation list and even though he wasn’t allowed to, he let me make a copy for my own records.
CPS was making ten allegations against me. Abuse, neglect maternal deprivation, failure to protect, and said that I failed to follow my case plan. They also said that my son had detachment disorder. Of course, none of it was true. My little boy was just as devastated as I was at being separated. He would beg me to hide him and sneak him out of the visitations. He was being abused and neglected in foster care.
My attorney told me that if I didn’t plead guilty to all ten allegations that CPS would make my son testify against me. I remember during one visit, I told my little boy that he was still my sweet little man and a good boy. He started crying and arguing with me because everyone else was telling him that he was bad and stupid all the time. He didn’t believe me when I told him that they were all liars and that they were wrong. If he believed that he was bad, then after six months in foster care they could make him believe anything.
I pled guilty under extreme duress too all ten allegations because I believed that I was protecting him. I nearly threw up in the courtroom because of the sick feeling I had in the pit of my stomach for admitting to things that were untrue. It would have destroyed my son to lie about me in court and I knew that they would lie to him saying that he could go home if he said what they wanted him to.
I now believe that if I had known that they would make him testify, I could have prepared him for it and maybe he would have come home. I could have told him not to lie, no matter what they promised him or asked him. To tell the judge the truth about me and that he just wanted to go home. To tell the judge what was happening to him in foster care. I dropped the ball.
The pervert that was accused of molesting my son never went to jail or was charged with anything. He threatened to kill me for letting my son “snitch” on him and even went as far as trying to throw me off an overpass to the free-way. I requested protection and was denied repeatedly. I was afraid that he would follow me to a visit and hurt my son. I had to tell my son goodbye and why I was leaving. I also told him I was going to go back to Washington. I gave him a pocket Bible with information on me so that he could find me when he looks for me, but I don’t know if he still has it. The CPS worker tried to get me to sign away my parental rights before I left but I refused because I didn’t want my son to think that I didn’t want him.
I keep listing my contact information on the internet. I update it every time it changes. I will never stop looking for him until we are reunited. Leaving him was the hardest thing I have ever done. I stumbled across this website back in June and visit as often as I can because I want to help people before it is too late for them. L
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 3, 2009 @ 7:52 pm
LINDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE MY HELP, PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
lindbloom_jm@yahoo.com
OR CALL ME AT
253-212-6978
OR
360-273-7993
If I knew what to do while CPS was victimizing me, I may have won the fight. I have learned a lot since then. DON’T LOSE HOPE, FOR WITHOUT HOPE, ONE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR.
GOD BLESS YOU…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 3, 2009 @ 7:57 pm
I found this site while researching for a Participation in Government project for school. My teacher asked a question that I hope someone can answer. Is this website Linda Martin’s full-time job? Thank you.
Comment by Shelby Myers — January 3, 2009 @ 8:30 pm
I believe only Linda Martin can answer that question.
Comment by MaggieC — January 3, 2009 @ 8:35 pm
My name is Wendy. At the age of six I was in real danger. My father and mother split up, another man was introduced to my mother. She was very neglectful to us me and my sister and brother. This man raped me repeatedly. He did nasty things to me! And he beat us, we had to kneel on our knees for hours. I would scream and nothing was done while he was raping me in the basement and among other places.
One day he got caught by my mother’s friend. Department of Social Services then ripped us away from there one night. The terrible thing is that the foster home I was put in was just the same - my foster mother beat me the first night. I was raped, beaten, neglected and so much more. wasn’t I supposed to be safe there?
They kept me and my sister together and separated our brother from us. No one will help me get the closure or face them for me. Oh it was long ago - we contacted the other girls that lived there they said nothing like that happened to them and they did not see me get raped etc. That is Bull Crap I have access to some of them I have a close friendship with her and I asked her and she was never interviewed.
I have went through HELL. I am making a long story short. There is so many more things I have suffered. There is a lot your body goes through as you get older when this happens.
Comment by Wendy Sulewski — January 3, 2009 @ 9:37 pm
Linda you need to know that they use unlicensed therapists and brainwash kids heads. These therapists are in with them they also introduce things to your child that they never heard of. Once they get the child to agree with them they go straight to them with said allegations. You should find a Attorney that hates them and one that you can trust. I wish you luck and here is a website for you as well Massoutrage.com
Comment by Wendy Sulewski — January 3, 2009 @ 9:53 pm
Wendy,
I am very sorry for what you have went through. I had the same problems with abuse when my parents separated.
My mom left in the middle of the night on my parents tenth anniversary. She took my sister with her. Before then, she would leave us with strange people when my dad worked out of town.
When my dad got involved with another woman who hated kids, she beat me, put me through unspeakable emotional abuse, starved me, I was strip-searched before and after school, she watched me take showers, I wore dirty clothes to school that didn’t fit, I had no furniture or light in my bedroom that I was locked in when I wasn’t cooking, cleaning or doing laundry. I cleaned up cat and dog feces with my bare hands, was hit in the head a lot.
My mother, family and friends of the family knew what was going on and did nothing. My school proncipal called the police and I was interviewed by him in front of my dad and his partner after the cop interviewed them and I said I lied because I was afraid of what would happen to me if he didn’t take me away. They lied to CPS about me.
CPS told me that the abuse was my fault. When I ran away, my mother took me in because I refused to go home. When I got pregnant with my daughter, she kicked me out because I wouldn’t have an abortion.
I was abused and neglected in foster care, locked in the basement in two different foster homes, one when I was thirteen and one when I was seventeen. I have so many physiical problems from the abuse and psychological problems that I can’t work and I take several medications.
My mother cost me my daughter after making false reports to CPS for nearly two years. My oldest son was taken from me when my ex-friends boyfriend molested him and my history with CPS didn’t help or the fact that my other two sons had severe autism and I couldn’t take care of them so I put them up for adoption.
My oldest daughter just turned eighteen on December 26th and she hates me because of the brain-washing my mother did to her. She won’t have anything to do with me. My oldest son was taken by CPS on his fourth birthday and was brain-washed into believing that he was a bad boy and that he deserved how he was treated in fostercare. This corrupt organization must be stopped.
My youngest son has special needs and it would seriously f*ck him up if CPS took him. They tried to when he was two weeks old, but There were too many people backing me up for them to follow through. Some bitch from the WIC office told me to do something that my sons pediatrician told me not to do and I told her that she didn’t know what she was talking about and his doctor did so she called CPS.
CPS wanted to take my son and even kept my case open until he was eight months old. But as soon as they saw all of my documentation on my sons health and the letters and cards from everyone telling me what a good mother I am they began to back off. Also, they found out that my inlaws are loaded with $$ and they would have had to fight too hard.
I want more kids but I am afraid of CPS so my little boy who will be eight years old in March has every ounce of my attention and energy because I don’t ever want to feel like I wasted time that I should be spendig with him. I will never stop trying to help people fight these crooked sons a b*tches until I’m dead.
FIGHT WITH ALL YOU HAVE AND DON’T LOSE HOPE, FOR WITHOUT HOPE ONE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR.
God bless you…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 4, 2009 @ 11:41 pm
Note to Shelby - this website is more of a passion than a job - and I don’t work on it full time (40 hours/wk).
Comment by Linda — January 5, 2009 @ 7:21 am
Waiting to hear back from Linda in Michigan.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 5, 2009 @ 9:34 pm
PLEASE READ THIS, I WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK.
I mentioned in December’s Guestbook that my daughter just turned 18 on December 26th. I also mentioned that I found her on myspace.com and that I sent her an email to let her know that I am having health issues.
This is the email I sent to her on December 30th;
I hope that life is treating you as well as you deserve. Hope I’m not intruding. I just wanted to let you know that I was in the hospital a couple weeks ago with chest pain. The doc said that I have a heart virus and an eurythmia. They can’t tell me if it’s life threatening yet. I also have high cholesterol and fibroid tumors in my uterus. Collier sang Happy Birthday to you on friday. He wanted to come see you, but I told him it wasn’t the right time. It may never be and I except it for what it is. Anyway, I couldn’t sleep so I thought I would stop bye. Good night…
I heard back from her today. Here was her responce;
It really bugs me that you share the story with the whole world, I read everything you said on the internet, I never said that I didn’t believe you, nor did I say that I did believe you. I never said that I hated you either. I told you that it wasn’t the right time, nor is now the right time. My mom has never done me harm, I live a very good life and for that you can be greatful, but how can I trust what you are saying if it isn’t now I feel? If I don’t believe what you say, it’s for that. I’m sorry for what you are going through, tell Collier I said thank you and I love him and that his picture is in my room. You and him are in my prayers. I just don’t want contact right now. Please respect that.
THAT’S OKAY. LET ME PUBLICLY APPOLOGIZE FOR PUTTING THE WORD HATE IN HER MOUTH. I DIDN’T SAY THAT SHE SAID THAT SHE HATES ME. I SAID THAT SHE HATES ME.
TO RUB IT IN MY FACE THAT MY MOTHER IS RAISING HER AS HER DAUGHTER AT WHICH SHE AQUIRED THIS “RIGHT,” IF YOU WILL, IN A SNEAKY, DISCEITFUL MANNER, THEN I WOULD CALL THAT HATE.
TO RUB IT IN MY FACE THAT SHE CALLS MY “MOTHER,” MOM AND ACCUSES ME OF TRASH TALKING MY, NO WAIT, HER MOM, AND INCINUATES THAT I AM DECEITFUL IN WHAT I SAY BECAUSE IT’S NOT HOW SHE FEELS, I WOULD CALL THAT HATRED, DISCUST, CONTEMPT AND RUDE!!!!
WHERE SHE HAS DOUBT, I HAVE THE PROOF! ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS ASK CERTAIN, CREDIBLE PEOPLE ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT MY “MOTHER,” AND SHE WILL SEE FOR HERSELF THAT MY “MOTHER,” HAS MADE A CAREER OUT OF BEING DISHONEST TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. MY FATHER IS ONE OF THEM. HOW DOES SHE THINK I KNOW ABOUT THE ABORTION KERRY HAD WHEN I WAS 3 YEARS OLD? HOWEVER, NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO GET INVOLVED.
IF MY DAUGHTER DID A LITTLE DIGGING, SHE MAY COME ACROSS SOME DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT EVERY WORD I SAID WAS TRUE ABOUT HOW MY “MOTHER,” GOT CUSTODY OF MY DAUGHTER.
A LITTLE DIGGING MIGHT TAKE HER BACK TO THE FOSTER HOME WE WERE LIVING IN WHEN SHE WAS TAKEN FROM ME. PEGGY SAID THAT HER SIGNATURE DIDN’T MATCH AND SHE FOUND SOMETHING WITH MY SIGNATURE ON IT AND SAID THAT MINE DIDN’T MATCH EITHER. PEGGY SAID THAT SHE WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED SIGNING SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS AN AGREEMENT TO SIGN OVER TEMPORARY CUSTODY. PEGGY WOULDN’T HAVE LET ME SIGN SOMETHING LIKE THAT ANYWAY. SHE TOLD ME THAT, AND SHE WAS TICKED OFF THAT ANYONE HAD INCINUATED THAT SHE DID.
THE NOTORIZED COPY OF THE PERMINENT CUSTODY PAPERS SAID THAT KERRY GOT CUSTODY OF LYNDSEY-REINE BY DEFAULT! THAT IS BECAUSE I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. UP UNTIL THAT LAST HEARING, I SHOWED UP FOR EVERY PRIOR HEARING. I SHOWED UP FOR EVERY SUPERVISED VISIT. KERRY ONLY BROUGHT HER TO THE DESIGNATED MEETING PLACE ONCE AND THAT WAS AFTER KEEPING ME FROM SEEING HER
FOR 6 MONTHS AND EVEN THAT WASN’T LEGAL OR HONEST!
I HAVE MORE EVIDENCE ABOUT MY SON JOSEPH, ENOUGH TO WRITE A BOOK!! BUT I WON’T COVER THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND ABOUT MY SON, COLLIER; I HAVE ALL OF THE PROOF ABOUT THAT IN MY FILE CABINET AT HOME.
AS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE I TOLD HER, AND WHAT I HAVE POSTED ON THE INTERNET, IS ONLY A LITTLE TASTE OF YEARS OF HELL. MY ATTORNEY HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION HE COULD DIG UP ON MY CHILDHOOD ABUSE AND SO ON. THERE ARE SEVERAL MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION TOO.
I BET THAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STILL HAS DOCUMENTATION OF MY BRUISES AND ABOUT MY DAD’S PARTNER WATCHING ME TAKE SHOWERS. THE TEACHER’S RESPONCE TO MY COMMENT WAS; “WELL, MAYBE IT ENTERTAINS HER TO WATCH YOU SHOWER.” PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS NOT WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE?!!!!
DOES IT MATTER THAT MY DAUGHTER DOES OR DOESN’T BELIEVE ME? “IT REALLY BUGS ME,” BUT NO, I SUPPOSE NOT.
DOES IT BUG ME THAT IT BUGS HER THAT I SHARE THE STORY WITH THE WORLD AND THAT SHE DOESN’T LIKE WHAT I SAY? NO, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY; THE DEVIL LIKES IT WHEN YOU HIDE THE TRUTH BUT GOD DOES NOT. I DON’T SERVE THE DEVIL, I LOVE MY LORD AND SAVIOR. ASK MY HUSBAND IF I LIE. HE ANSWERS THE PHONE TOO.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW TOLD ME AND MY HUSBAND ON NEW YEAR’S WEEKEND THAT HEART VIRUS’ ARE VERY DANGEROUS. SHE SAID THAT AS THE INFLAMATION OF THE SACK AROUND MY HEART, (PERICARDITIS,) INCREASES, I WILL HAVE TO WORK HARDER TO BREATHE WHICH WILL WEAR MY HEART OUT AND I WILL GET MORE AND MORE TIRED, AND WHEN MY HEART CAN’T WORK ON IT’S OWN ANYMORE, I WILL NEED A HEART TRANSPLANT OR WILL DIE WAITING FOR ONE. SHE WORKS AT GOOD SAMARITAN HOSPITAL IN PUYALLUP WHERE I WAS SEEN JUST WEEKS AGO, MY FATHER-IN-LAW JUST RETIRED AFTER WORKING THERE FOR 30 YEARS. MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, “MOM,” SAID THAT THIS MEDICAL PROBLEM DOESN’T DISCRIMINATE. IT’S DEADLY AND SHE IS SEEING CASES WHERE BABIES ARE DYING FROM IT.
YES, I HAVE PROOF OF ALL OF THAT TOO.
I AM NOT A LIAR. I DO NOT LIE. I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE WHO IS DECEITFUL. THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN MY RECALL OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME OR MY CHILDREN. I MAY FORGET TO POST ALL OF THE DETAILS, SO THAT THERE ARE SHORTER AND LONGER VERSIONS, BUT YOU WILL NOT FIND ANYTHING UNTRUE IN ANYTHING I POST. I CAN BACK UP WHAT I SAY. I DO NOT CONTRADICT MYSELF.
YOU CAN ONLY TALK TRASH ABOUT SOMEONE IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ISN’T TRUE ABOUT THEM. EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT MY MOTHER IS TRUE AND GOD HIMSELF AS MY WITNESS KNOWS IT.
AND YES, I DO TELL THE WORLD WHAT HAPPENED TO ME SO THAT IT MAY PREVENT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME FROM HAPPENING TO SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE NOBODY ON THIS EARTH DESERVES TO SUFFER THE WAY I HAVE.
AND EXCUSE, ME LYNDSEY-REINE FOR ALERTING YOU OF LIFE THREATENING HEALTH PROBLEMS. I’M A LITTLE BIT SCARED BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT. I FELT THAT I OWED IT TO YOU TO TELL YOU BECAUSE I WOULD FEEL CHEATED IF IT WAS ME AND I LOST TIME WITH MY FAMILY BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN’T FEEL THAT I DESERVED TO KNOW! I DON’T THINK THAT IT IS RIGHT FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE TIME AWAY THAT CAN’T BE RETURNED. ONCE IT’S GONE, BYE BYE.
SO FROM NOW ON, ALL YOU WILL SEE OF ME IS THE COMMENTS I POST. I WILL NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT YOU AGAIN.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 7, 2009 @ 1:41 am
i no jolisa she chang her name when she was 19 we went 2 skul 2 gether n hi-skul her baby was cute she went 2 the same fstr hm as me but not @ the same time we lost contac when she moved n chang her name shes ben thru a lot mor n me but she loyal n kind n down 2 erth she dont desrv 2 be blone off like that i dont have fam my mama dead id give n e thing 2 be w her sorry jolisa 2 see u so sad i pray
Comment by Amabile — January 7, 2009 @ 4:42 am
My application to care for my grandsons was also denied because I had a prior case with cps.
Does anyone know if there is an appeals process for that? When my daughter had a supervised visit with her boys on Dec 4th. She observed that her 20 month old had a really bad diaper rash and a circular bruise around his rectum. When she applied ointment to his bottom he drew back in fear. Her three yr old then said “tickle mommy tickle” The caseworkers minimized it and refused to have him examined by a Dr. Even after several calls from her court appointed attorney they insisted on treating it as a diaper rash and nothing more. Everything cleared up since then. On Jan 8th when my daughter had another supervised visit. After this visit she was told by her caseworker that her three old said “lets rub our pee pees on mommy” He has stated during visits that he has two mommies. Foster mom also reported that three year old sticks his hand up her shirt. So now they say they are going to investigate the foster home and my daughter. They have been in this foster home for 3 months and it wasn’t until my daughter and her whole family raised hell with cps over the rectal bruising that the foster mom came up with these allegations. And if the foster parents are included in this investigation why the hell are the boys still in that home?
Comment by Susan — January 9, 2009 @ 7:26 pm
Susan
Which state do you live in hon? I need something to go on so I can try to help you. You can reach me more privately at lindbloom_jm@yahoo.com. There are a lot of things to consider when you are trying to make progress. If I know where to begin, I may be able to figure out who you need to contact and also some websites you may be able to gather additional information.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 2:23 am
Oh, and you can call me too at 360-273-7993 or on my cell at 253-212-6978.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 2:25 am
Hi Mab,
Thank you sweetheart. Are you still in Burien? You have always been special to me. Sorry we lost contact. Call or email, okay? I miss our talks. I hope everything is okay. Love you.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 2:33 am
CPS IS THE ANTI CHRIST!!!!
Comment by SCOTT A. — January 10, 2009 @ 12:11 pm
JoLisa
I live in Colorado, Boulder County
Comment by Susan — January 10, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
Susan
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I have been working on this all day. There are several websites that may be helpful to you, but I can’t list them all in one post or it will get bumped to Linda Martin’s spam folder so bear with me.
The first one that I am listing is probably far away from you but it’s still in Colorado, I still don’t think you have anything to lose by contacting this woman and telling her about your case.
Her name is Lynn I. Landis-Brown.
She runs her practice as affordable as possible and she used to be a nurse. She helps in the areas of family law, divorce/disolution, children’s issues, guardianship of children and adults.
Serves as a Guardian ad Litem and is open to court appointed council.
She focuses on solving conflict. Has a high list of credidentials and may not be aware of the gross abuse of CPS and their power, but helping you would add to her credintials.
website is http://www.landislawoffice.com
and her number is 719-520-5441, fax is 719-520-5570.
She may also be able to direct you in the right direction if she can’t help you.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 6:58 pm
Contact state government at http://www.colorado.gov
Real CPS http://www.westword.com
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 7:00 pm
Men’s/Women’s resources by state http://www.dvmen.org
AFRA Members Colorado http://www.americanfamilyrightsassociation.com
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
Here are a few other sites I found.
http://www.egfi.org
http://www.suncanaa.com
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 7:04 pm
And here are some that I would definately use.
http://www.denverpost.com
http://www.disgustedwiththesystem.blogspot.com
Good luck. Hope I was helpful.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 7:07 pm
I almost forgot! Find out who the politicians are in your state that will work on CPS reform, Constitutional rights reform and family rights reform. Contact them until you get a responce. If they see that you aren’t going to give up and leave them alone, sooner or later they will respond.
And one other thing I forgot to mention about that lawyer, She has personally experienced what it is like to be part of a broken home. If your story pulls on her heart strings, it could be to her advantage.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 10, 2009 @ 7:14 pm
I’m another Susan, but i live here in Colorado, & it is the most CORRUPT place on earth. While everyone else’s hours are getting cut & jobs lost, cps here continues to thrive & prosper.
Comment by Susan — January 11, 2009 @ 5:45 am
IF YOU ARE AGAINST CPS THEN BAND WITH ME.
THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE ACT, (FOCA,) IS SET TO BE SIGNED IF CONGRESS PASSES IT ON JANUARY 21-22, 2009. THE FOCA IS THE NEXT SICK CHAPTER IN THE BOOK OF ABORTION.
IF MADE A LAW, ALL LIMITS ON ABORTION WILL BE LIFTED WHICH WILL ALLOW THE FOLLOWING;
PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS
US TAX PAYERS WILL PAY FOR THE FUNDING OF ABORTIONS
PARENTAL NOTIFICATIONS WON’T BE REQUIRED ANY LONGER
THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS WILL INCREASE
ALL HOSPITALS, INCLUDING CATHOLIC HOSPITALS WILL BE REQUIRED TO PERFORM ABORTIONS UPON REQUEST
IF THIS HAPPENS, THE BISHOPS VOW TO CLOSE DOWN ALL CATHOLIC HOSPITALS, WHICH NUMBERS TO MORE THAN 30% OF ALL HOSPITALS IN THE US
AS CAATHOLICS, AS CHRISTIANS, AS ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST THE NEEDLESS KILLING OF INNOCENT CHILDREN, WHO CONSIDERS LIFE SACRED AND THAT CHILDREN ARE A GIFT FROM GOD, WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AS ONE. WE MUST STOP THIS HORRIFIC ACT BEFORE IT BECOMES A LAW.
PLEASE SAY A NOVENA, (NINE DAYS OF PRAYER.) ALONG WITH FASTING STARTING ON JANUARY 11TH.
PLEASE SAY YOUR STRONGEST PRAYERS WITH INTENTIONS TO STOP THE FOCA. PLEASE FAST FOR AT LEAST 2 DAYS ON THE NOVENA IF POSSIBLE.
REMEMBER THAT WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE AND THE POWER OF PRAYER IS UNDENIABLE. IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE SENCELESS KILLING OF DEFENSELESS CHILDREN THEN NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
ALSO REMEMBER THAT THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF HOW CPS BECAME FUNDED AND WHY THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER.
ONLY A FEW YEARS AFTER ABORTION BECAME LEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY, CPS BEGAN TEARING APART FAMILIES. THE SAME HOLDS TRUE WHEN AN ABORTION IS PERFORMED. THE FETUS IS TORN APART AND IT IS TORTURED JUST LIKE US WHEN WE LOSE OUR KIDS.
THE DAMAGE TO THESE HELPLESS CHILDREN IS PERMANENT. PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND PRAY WITH ME.
DON’T LOSE HOPE, FOR WITHOUT HOPE, ONE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR.
GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 11, 2009 @ 6:40 am
JoLisa
Thanks so much for all the info. I will defintely check these out. Today my daughter had an appointment with her therapist. Therapist is going to call the caseworker and ask her why she didn’t have a 20 mo old with a bruised rectum taken to a Dr. She also feels that these allegations that have been made against my daughter have retaliation written all over it. Her probation officer is even getting in on it. So she has a couple of professionals on her side. I’ll keep you posted.
Susan
Comment by Susan — January 12, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
Susan,
Please pay close attention to the additional information I give you. I have posted in great detail the short version I am leaving here. You can refer to what I have posted in August and September’s guestbook. I strongly suggest that you read them and take notes as they will either make or break your case.
If your daughter has a physician that is behind her, have her request a written declaration from him/her. Make several copies and keep the original in a safe place. Make sure that you only use the copies. Have the doctor keep one, your daughter one, you one, have one for each attorney handling your case, and have a copy served to the CPS worker assigned to the case-be sure it is sent to her certified mail. Do the same thing with the probation officer.
Other things that I suggest are that you each keep a journal with as many specific details and dates as possible and keep them up to date. Make several copies of them too.
If possible, take photos at each visit and audio record. Better yet, video recording is the best. There is new technology that can prove whether or not the recording has been edited or tampered with. Get copies here too and once again, keep all originals in a safe place. See if your lawyers can have them admitted into evidence.
I have many more suggestions posted in the guestbooks for August and September. All of which could either make or break your case.
Good luck to you, your family is in my prayers.
I wish I had known all of this stuff when CPS was destroying my family. But I know that all things happen for a reason, and if I had, I may not have ever found this website and made the friends I have who were met through here.
I hope that your family is reunified soon. it breaks my heart the ways that children and families are violated by CPS. I plan to see them come to an end before I die.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 12, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
My daughter lost her 4 daughters 5 years ago in Michigan..Who knows why for sure.. A victim of domestic violence? Then a single mom couldn’t raise them alone?
She did nothing that should have cost her her children!! She was a victim too!!
She underwent psychological /emotional abuse for 8 years by the man she loved and trusted..,He did it in such a way that kept her unaware of what was happening. Some physical abuse came later, he would drag her down by the hair of her head, choke her and tell her, her only way out would be in a body bag..He used other tactics too.. He would commit suicide. He would see to it she never seen her children again..
My daughter became very depressed, she lost her self esteem, her self worth, she started thinking she was all those horrible things he said she was, she started believing she didn’t deserve to be happy or deserved to be loved, and some where along the line she lost all track of herself and forgot what her dreams even were anymore…Sad but true.
Don’t judge women who endure this type of abuse. Their scars are not on the outside where people see, but they go to the very heart of these women, and they go very very deep.. I, myself, after pulling my hair out,screaming at her for not getting out and crying my eyes out, had to go online and read to better understand what she was going through..But never, ever was she unable to care for her daughters. Her girls were her life and she would lay down her life for any one of them..
Women of domestic violence, any type of violence should not lose their children..And they should not be revictimized by the state..They were just as abusive to her as her husband and they ripped from her, what little bit of dignity she had left!!
They send the wrong message..We as society have to stick up for these victims of abuse and demand change there too.. I believe if women weren’t afraid of losing their children if they were to expose abuse and get the help they need to get away, that would help stop domestic violence and less women would be killed by the hands of their abuser..
When the state was involved,and the children were wards of the state, my daughter proved she could protect her children by kicking her husband out and calling the police when he smashed a frosting container in her older daughters face..He had to take anger management, which he completed, but he still blamed her for his abusive behavior..The judge knowing this, ordered her to allow him back in the home..Fact is, until the abuser takes responsibility for his own actions, the abuse will only escalate, which it did and the children were removed..Another note on this, the police never followed up on this incident, which according to the paperwork my daughter received about her whole case with cps, it was turned over to someone else in the police department and she didn’t know how to handle it!!
My daughter had to jump through hoops like a show dog but it was never enough or good enough..And they never helped her with the issue at hand, they robbed her of her children, and threw her to the curb..They didn’t care about helping her for her children, they were too busy trying to dig up dirt on her and finding ways to make her fail..
The 2 older girls were from a different marriage..She was damned if she wasn’t with her abusive husband for the sake of the little ones and damned if she was with her abusive husband for the sake of the older ones..She just could not win for losing..
I had a place all set up for her and her daughters, in a mobile home, in relatives front yard, I had resources set up and family and friends who were just a phone call away if she needed them..The one, just a shout away!! So I went down to get her and the girls, (some 300 miles)..
She begged the state to allow her and her girls to move up here where HE KNEW he didn’t dare come around, he could no longer intimate her, she could recognize the abuse, and take back control of her life, but they denied her right to her place of safety saying she would be running from the problem..
When she was separated from him, and they had her phone #, it was him they called with concerns about the older ones?? .Why?? They weren’t his!! It was also him they sent pictures of the girls to and not her..They had her address!! They set her up for failure is what they did!! They knew he would call her and she’d be interested and run right there!!
I sent an email to Jody at da blodget and asked why my daughter would not be getting her children back..She said because she won’t stay away from her husband.. HELLO!! Call him some more and send him some more crap you idiots!!
They also confronted her about the abuse in front of him..BIG NO NO!!..And than condemn her for not exposing it to them..First she would tell them, than she’d deny it..Why would she tell them? They surely didn’t give her any indication they could be trusted nor any indication they would protect her if she did!!
The little ones were rushed through the court and adopted and they dragged their feet on the older ones..
They lied under oath and they twisted the truth to make sure those girls would not be returned to their mother.They are EVIL EVIL people!!
They kept the family at a distance and I called and called for visitations..I got one visit, a goodbye visit…They discontinued my daughters visitations with the girls saying they didn’t go well, but the papers I have tell a whole different story..
They also have in these papers that I am a drunk and a drug user!! How can they slander me like that and get away with it?? I don’t drink nor do I use drugs!!
When all hopes of ever getting her children back diminished, my daughter moved up here to her place of safety, got a divorce and took back her life.
She than went to court on the older two girls for termination hearing..And can you believe it? The day after mother’s day..How inconsiderate!!
In the termination hearing they had her all pumped up…Asking her if she would have help if she needed it if she got Jennifer back and did she have this and did she have that.. And at that point her attorney speaks up, “you do know if she is allowed to get Jennifer back, you will be opening up a whole new can of worms?” “You already terminated on the other ones.” I had all I could do but to get up and smack the b_____d into the middle of next week..
The older two girls are not adopted out to this day..Well maybe one of the older ones are, I think that was suppose to happen this month..Those 2 were tossed around like sacks of potatoes!! And they talked stability???
One of the older girls is in an institution from institution to institution because she keeps trying to run and away and hurt herself because she wants to be home with her mother..And that’s another thing they brought up in the hearing..We have to show her she can’t always get what she wants..So punish her for loving and wanting to be with her mom???!!!
My daughter misses her children so much..She sleeps through birthdays and holidays and she cries and gets really emotionally upset..She doesn’t think she deserves to be happy tho..The guilt of losing her children keeps her from doing do..She sees them in every where she goes and in every thing she sees..There’s not a day that goes by that she doesn’t think of them and longs to hold them and tell them how sorry she is for all they have been put through..
The whole court system did her wrong..Everyone including the judge!!! They lied lied lied!!!
What a system!!! I wrote to Attorney General Michael Cox, I wrote to everyone I could think of..I am still writing..And I will continue until I AM HEARD!!!
Comment by Florence — January 13, 2009 @ 1:17 am
My name is Elizabeth Davidson. I live in Marion County Florida. DCF took my children away from me in February of last year. I have 4 children. There are false accusations, lies, and inconsistencies,, just like with all of you. I will not stop fighting though. This site has given me a lot of valuable information that I will spend all of my time when I am not working researching and calling. Thank all of you for all of your love and care. My heart goes out to each and every one of you as I read your stories. I sit and cry reading about all of the children that have been abused, hurt, raped, and even killed in the system. DCF kidnaps your children because of some mistake you have made in life, and then they treat your children even worse then you ever could imagine. There are children out there that are really being abused, why aren’t they taking these children and protecting them and leave our children alone?! God Bless each and every one of you. You are in my prayers every night.
The Davidson Family
Comment by Elizabeth — January 13, 2009 @ 3:16 am
Florence,
My heart goes out to you and your daughter.
I had to move away and change my name because of an abusive relationship with my oldest son’s dad. Unfortunately, I moved from Washington to Michigan.
Every state has different ways to manipulate the system so that they can take our kids from us. It doesn’t matter if we do anything wrong or not. It doesn’t matter if not a single hair on our children’s heads were ever hurt while they were home safe with us.
I understand what your daughter is going through. I too don’t feel like I deserve to be happy. I have a lot of guilt for not protecting my chldren from CPS. My husband is my second marriage and he makes me laugh every day, but I don’t feel like I deserve it. Sometimes I still feel like I am observiing someone elses life and family.
Though your daughter’s scars will never disappear, there are things she can do, and you can too, to help insure that you have a chance to see those precious little angels again.
One of them is to use the public message boards and give as much information about you and them as possible, and every detail that you are comfortable with displaying about your story and the details of the case.
I highly reccomend http://www.myspace.com because just about every child who has access to a computer uses myspace. This service is free.
I also reccomend leaving messages for each individual child on http://www.zabasearch.com. You can also take advantage of zabasphere. Every time your name is searched zabasphere will immediately alert you by sending you a message to your email address. This service is also free.
Myspace does it that way too except that they forward messages to you at your email address. You can always update your contact information whenever it changes.
Be sure to keep your contact information up to date and if possible, listed in the local phone book. I myself take the risk in the hopes that I will be reunited with my children.
Don’t let your daughter lose her memories or sleep through birthdays and holidays. Have her instead keep a journal of what she did on those days, what she thought, how she felt and how she celebrated and what she specifically prayed for. Then she can share them with the kids when they are reunited and they can share what was happening in their lives during those moments.
I will keep your family in my prayers.
Don’t lose hope, or let your daughter lose hope, for without hope, one has nothing left to live for.
God Bless You…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 13, 2009 @ 2:55 pm
Elizabeth,
I will keep your family in my prayers. If you scroll through the comments in the August and September guestbooks here on fightcps.com, you will find a lot of stuff I posted to help you fight for your kids. Good luck and God Bless You. Don’t stop fighting and don’t lose hope.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 13, 2009 @ 2:58 pm
Hi, this is the other Susan from southern CO. My daughter is at a ‘treatment’ facility because of her violent outburst in Dec. She got the same corrupt piece of s*it GAL that we had in our case against CPS, which we lost. This idiot put a no-contact order on 2 of my daughters friends, one of whom lives out of state. These friends have NOT been served with any papers or notice or anything! I honestly don’t know how effective this will be. Another thing, she told the cps caseworker (some pussy guy) that she has witnessed the abuse of her younger brother by one of the ‘guardians’ she is living with. I KNOW this is true. My son told me this, and I asked why he didn’t call 911 he said: “I’d be DEAD”. His eXACT words! This caseworker won’t belive her & says ’she is crazy and I am crazy’. These power hungry a$$holes ignore REAL abuse & actively pursue non abuse cases such as my own. Maybe I’ll give that lady Jolissa suggested a call as well. I’m out of work for a while now due to a hysterectomy last week, but I can’t stand this INJUSTICE & i’m not shutting up until somebody listens!
Comment by Susan — January 13, 2009 @ 10:53 pm
The other Susan,
How old are your children? I believe that I may be able to help you too.
If you and your kids are not keeping journals yet, there is still time to do so. So many people in these situations don’t know how important this is and most don’t even know that they have the right to.
My suggestion for your son would be to not let the “guardians” intimidate him. This tactic that they are using on your son is the same as those of a man commiting domestic violence against his wife. Most of the time these threats will go without action and these threats are just used to keep the victim from causing the abuser to be charged with assault.
Don’t go through CPS for any of this. If you are able, find a detective that is sympathetic to your situation and cares about children and have him interview your kids.
Also, if you already have an attorney who has been court appointed to your case and you do not feel like he/she is representing you to your best advantage, fire him/her and keep doing so until you get the results you expect. By law you have the right to fire any attorney you wish that is court appointed and by law, the courts have to appoint you another one. If I knew this my oldest son would be at home safe with me.
Don’t let them force you to plead guilty to anything you were accused of that you didn’t do, and get as many witnesses together as you can and have them sign written declarations about you as a person and as a parent. Also use co-workers and previous co-workers that you are in good standing with, school records and report cards, comments from teachers and any positive medical documentation. Also letters and cards from family and friends that mention what a good mother you are. I have a bunch of them.
Have your children testify. I know that this is a hard decision to make, but if they know not to be coerced into saying what the enimy wants them to, and only tells the truth, the judge can’t ignore it. All hearings are audio-recorded and once on the record, can not be rescinded.
Whatever you do, don’t fall apart in front of them and don’t fear them. That is what they want. They want you to be in fear and alone and unprepared to fight. Just like a wife-beater! Do not show them any negitive emotion or anger. If they only see you as calm and loving, it works to your advantage.
You may also consider having your children writing statements on everything that has happened in fostercare and get it video or audio recorded. Make copies of everything and keep the originals in a safe place.
If you have a case plan in affect, follow it to the letter. Read it over carefully, because CPS has a tendency to add stuff that isn’t court ordered. Make notes of any of it and go over it with your attorney.
Even if it isn’t court appointed or suggested, like parenting classes, do them anyway, it makes you look better than CPS is trying to make you look. Don’t use any therapists or classes that they provide you for free or even the ones that cost you money. Seek out your own so that you have the peace of mind that they aren’t in co-hoots with CPS and do not support what they do.
Stay strong. If you need more suggestions, I have just about everything you could need to win against this evil organization that CLAIMS to protect our children. Scroll through the guestbook for August and September of 2008. I know people who have done these exact things that won the fight. Good luck and hug your children for me. They really are unique and precious gifts from GOD.
Above all, look to God for guidance and protection. After all, he is all knowing and doesn’t like it when his children suffer at the hands of evil doers. Don’t lose hope, for without hope, one has nothing left to live for.
God Bless You.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 14, 2009 @ 6:27 pm
I found an idea entitled “judicial accountability “on the change.gov web site. I would encourage everyone to read these ideas and leave a message.
Comment by Gingerroot — January 14, 2009 @ 9:44 pm
It is under the “Citizens Briefing Book” under “judicial accountability” unless a new idea is shared under a different category at the change.gov web site.
Comment by Gingerroot — January 14, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
Thank you JoLissa. I’m out of work for a few weeks because of surgery & am pretty broke. I’ll see the kids this weekend though. Not my oldest because her caseworker from this county put us on her no contact list…against her will! That’s SO true what they say about power corrupting! The media won’t report this, but domestic violence is just as prevelent in homosexual relationships as it is in hetrosexual ones!
Have you all heard about those kids being snatched by cps in New Jersey because one of them is named Adolf Hitler & the other 2 have white supremiscist sounding names? There was NO reports of abuse or neglect either. They were probably taken due to an ‘anonmyous tipster’ & pimped out to foster homes. I wonder if the child collecters can legally change their names? Somebody should name their kid, Government Sucks & see what happens
Comment by Susan — January 14, 2009 @ 10:40 pm
Jolissa, my kids are 2, 6, & 15. Our case was closed in 07 with my mom & her partner having full custody. We pay WAY 2 much child support & only get 2 see the kids supervised at their home a couple hrs a week. I don’t trust anybody in corrupt colorado because we’ve been let down & kicked too many times. I really want to leave here & get a good lawyer in another state 2 get the kids back. We had 2 totally incompetent attorneys that we paid for but they SUCKED. We followed the case plan, but dhs invented reasons for us not to have the kids. THere was NO abuse at all. Just hearsay, false allegations of neglect, & speculation.
Comment by Susan — January 14, 2009 @ 10:47 pm
Someone left me a really creepy voicemail recently. The individual was threatening me that if I left one more blog that this person would tell the world that I set a fire and killed a girl. It sounds like my daughter is pissed off at me because I don’t care if she likes it or not that I, “tell the world,” what happened to me.
I will be in contact with the authorities to see if they can retrieve the phone number of the individual that left that message and if so, I will have them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for attempting to terrorize me.
This for of harrassment and slander is untolerable. I do not accuse people of doing things that they do not do and I am not going to put up with some coward trying to bully me with lies.
God doesn’t like liars and I refuse to be intimidated. So whoever you are and wherever you are, go f*ck yourself because you don’t scare me. You made a mistake by leaving a message on my cell phone. You will be found. You will be punished. I have already played the message to my husband and my friends. A simple voice analysis will be the nail that convicts you.
KISS MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 15, 2009 @ 12:00 am
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT IF YOU MAKE A FALSE REPORT TO A POLICE OFFICER, YOU PUT YOURSELF AT RISK FOR THIS WONDERFUL THING CALLED
PENALTY OF PURGERY
DOCTORING LEGAL DOCUMENTS WILL PUT YOU AT RISK FOR
FORGERY
HARRASSING ME ON A RECORDING DIVICE
YOU MUST BE A REAL FREAKIN IDIOT
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 15, 2009 @ 12:28 am
I checked my voicemail again because I wanted to see if I could pinpoint the voice. The voice sounds VERY familiar. The person, a female, sounded very young, no older than 20 years old, most likely 16 to 18 years of age.
When I checked the envelope information on the message I found out that it was sent on January 14th at 12:43am.
Suspicious that it was my daughter or one of her friends that called my cell and left that message, I went on myspace to see when was the last time she logged on, since she told me that she read everything I have posted on the internet and that it bugs her that I tell the world the story.
It turns out that the last time she logged in was January 14th. Now I know what to tell the phone company and the police when I press charges.
How imature!
I’m sure she will be surprised when she finds out what she did is illegal. Let her be Kerry’s daughter! I want nothing to do with her or them.
But I will NOT stop posting blogs. Helping people is good therapy for me. I believe that all things happen for the glory of God and that all that I have been through, I suffered so that I could use it to help others.
For now I will leave the messenger alone, but if it continues, there are enough people who I played that message for that will back me if I am in need.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 15, 2009 @ 1:51 am
Families First Rally … Feb. 5th, Noon in the Olympia Capitol Rotunda
We have set the date for the Families First Rally for Feb. 5th at noon in the Capitol Rotunda. I am working with family advocates to put together a program. I will write tonight about the details. Please plan to attend. We need everyone to attend who feels strongly on this issue.
More later…..
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Comment by christy — January 15, 2009 @ 2:02 pm
I wish my daughter had seen this site and she could of got some advise here..First of all, her attorney badgered her and badgered her to plead guilty..She finally did when he told her she would have her children back in no time if she did..She had letters from friends and families saying she was a good mother and she had someone from a place called pathways that had all good to say about her..He worked for cps for years before he got out of it and went to work for pathways…But you know what they said about his and other people’s opinion of her?? They weren’t qualified..They paid no attention to anything anyone had good to say about her….
My daughters big mistake was she knew she did nothing wrong, so she thought she had nothing to worry about..She thought the truth would prevail and she would get her children back..
Watch what you say to CPS..They are not your friends and they can not be trusted..They twist everything around and they fabricate paperwork to justify why your children should not stay with you or be returned to you..And the judge? she only hears what they want her to hear..No one in that courtroom is your friend!! They lie under oath and get away with it..I just don’t get it!!
My daughters whole case was based on nothing more than assumptions and accusations!!
State appointed attorneys only get paid a certain amount, and they don’t go out of their way for NOTHING!!
Comment by Florence — January 15, 2009 @ 2:52 pm
There was an incident with the step son and my daughter’s oldest daughter..That’s how
the state got involved in the first place..The step son 10, played with my daughters oldest daughter
8, while playing with himself, saying this would make them brother and sister.
They went to the school daily and took the 2 oldest ones
out of class and questioned them over and over..They did this
to the point the girls would come home crying and beg their mother to make them stop..They said
they would say, this is how it happened, wasn’t it ____, wasn’t it___..The girls said they kept telling them
no, no, but they would not accept that..
By the time it was over, it was said that the oldest one said the step brother put his penis in
her, time and time again..And the other one said he messed with her too with her clothes on.
The next to the oldest recanted but they still kept it written in stone..And they have it in these papers
as her saying he put his penis in her too..That was never said by her..Never..My daughters attorney said
they had to correct that but they never did..
Although the oldest girls Dr’s exam stated she was still a virgin and that there were no findings
of her claims, the state still went on with their case..
The girls were made wards of the state but allowed to stay in the home..
They went through counseling and did all that was asked of them.
The judge commented my daughter’s family on a job well done but because the girls wouldn’t
open up with details about the sexual abuse, they would remain wards of the state and counseling would continue..
Than came the incident that I talked about before, with her husband smashing that frosting container
in her older daughter’s face and her calling the police and the judge ordering her to let him back in the home … (The step son’s only punishment was that he couldn’t go around my daughter and
his father’s home anymore, and the husband held a grudge against her oldest daughter for that).
Than they got in a big fight because
he wanted her (he had no license) to go pick his son up and take him to counseling or his x would lose
all this money she paid to keep him out of boot camp or whatever it was..She refused to do it..And crap
hit the fan..She loaded the children in the car and he went out and was hollering and screaming
and throwing tools and whatever he could at the car.
She went to my other daughter’s house and CPS shows up..She went to ask her sister if
she could stay there until I could come up and get her and the girls. The car was in her husband’s
step father’s name, and she had no money to make it up here some 300 miles away..He always made sure
she didn’t have any money…Her daughters and her sister’s daughters were all playing in the pool when
CPS shows up..He asked her why she stays in an abusive relationship..OMG!! The judge was the one who
ordered her to allow him back in the home..Don’t these people communicate??
Well, he wanted to talk to the older girl alone and she kept saying no, she wanted her mom present, he told
my daughter to just walk away..Than he told her he had an order to take her children and she said over
my dead body..He left and returned with the police..The older girls scattered and the little ones;
one in my daughters arms and one in my other daughters arms hung on for dear life..
Needless to say, they got them all in the car..The girls were screaming and hollering, no no please..
And the oldest one crying and screaming, please Scott, no, please, you don’t have to do this, shes getting
a divorce..
This is when I went down to get her and her girls and bring them home with me with the resources in place
and the home set up for her and her girls.
Than all the other stuff comes back up with the sex abuse.. The step son hadn’t been around, there were no
incidents so why bring this back up?? She’s already been through the court for that..
And this is when her attorney badgered her and badgered her to plead guilty to “failure to protect.”
Its one f___ed up system, I tell ya..
My daughter went in this with her eyes closed, not knowing these people who are hired to protect children
would be her worse nightmare.
Everyone whose looked at these papers up here, could not believe it..They said boy was she railroaded..We paid
someone $1,000 to look it over and see if he could maybe do something..He looked at the appeal we had on top of
the papers and he laughed..He said you have to be kidding me..Who the hell did this appeal?? He said this is
not done right. He is still investigating it all, and although he probably will not be able to reopen her case, too
late for that, hes a big man up here, he maybe able to take this to some one and show them what is being done to
people by CPS and the court system.
Oh yeah and I did find out why they said she shouldn’t have her children back..She minimized the sexual abuse and
the domestic violence..She just should of blew both their heads off I guess!!
Comment by Florence — January 15, 2009 @ 7:36 pm
My name is Lydia. I relocated to the Casper area back in July. I am a single mother of 2 daughters. One is currently in the US Army Reserves.
The story below I wish I could say was the result of some talented soap opera writer. Unfortunately it is the current state of my affairs. Honestly, if someone came up to me with this story I would ask them if they had been drinking…lol.
I arrived in Casper on July 15, 2008 with my younges daughter as well as 2 of our pets to the residence we were to share with my fiancé of 4 years. I stayed to help set up the residence as well as spend some time with my fiancé (as he had been here since April 2008) and help my daughter adjust & get her enrolled in school.
July 18, 2008 I returned to Florida alone to retrieve the rest of our belongings as well as my mother and to finalize the rent contract on our Florida home. I arrived in Florida on Sunday July 21, 2008. On Tuesday July 22, the potential renter backed out. I was originally to leave on Wednesday July 23 to return to Casper. Wednesday July 23, I placed our Florida home on the selling market with a local realtor, thus delaying my return to Casper. On Friday July 25, 2008, I was in the process of loading my vehicle when I received a visit from the parents of a friend of my daughter’s who proceed to tell me that she has accused my fiancé of touching her inappropriately. I took steps to ensure her safety until I could arrive in Casper.
Later that afternoon, I received a phone call from Inspector saying he had received a call regarding the complaint and wanted to take her to the CAPS center for further questioning. The way he explained it to me not only did I not have a choice in letting her go, but he stated that I would be able to get her back once I arrived in Casper.
I arrived back in Casper on Sunday July 27. Monday July 28 there was a “shelter” hearing. I did not get my daughter back. My daughter was placed directly into foster care on July 25, with a couple one of whom is a Natrona County Sherriff.
This couple has 6 other children/foster children (they have adopted over the years). They had another child which when they got my daughter they sent to the foster mother’s sister to be taken in/adopted. Most of their other children are special needs children (Autism, ADHD, Meningitis, etc). My daughter is not. She is just a number to them. To date, I have NOT been able to obtain any legal representation (because I am not being charged with anything). Remember that - it is key - I am NOT being charged or investigated. As a result my fiancé was arrested and I as well as my mother lost the housing we were to have (the residence was provided by my fiancés employer, when he was arrested we were literally thrown out).
I have gone long periods of time without a visit with my daughter (at one point 1 month - when I finally saw her after that 1 month - she showed up to the visit with 7 stitches in her forehead and some lame excuse about hitting her head on a chair) and when I do have them they must be supervised. The Judge has ordered 3 visits per week. To date I have yet to have those 3 visits per week and no one has been held accountable for disobeying the Judge’s order.
Please do not misunderstand me; this letter is NOT about guilt or innocence. That should and will be determined by a court. This letter is about me, as a parent, NOT CHARGED with ANY crime, not only being treated as a criminal, but being alienated from my daughter. My visits are supervised, restricted, and my conversations with my daughter are not free. Don’t get me wrong I understand I am not allowed to discuss the case with her. It’s not that. My daughter is literally being alienated from me. She doesn’t even acknowledge my mother (her grandmother).
Then there is DFS. The caseworker that has been assigned to my case is a joke. IF I can get her to return a phone call it’s a miracle. More than once I have had to not only go to her supervisor, but to her supervisor’s supervisor simply to get her to return a phone call. Then there are the times when I can’t even leave her a message because her mailbox is full. This woman is treating my daughter like just another number, just like she is treated in the foster home. Whenever I point this out the DFS worker simply rolls her eyes and huffs and puffs.
And let us not forget how much trouble I get into when I write “notes” on Facebook. The notes are Facebooks version of a blog. That was actually another one of the reasons the GAL filed to suspend my visits. Now mind you, in the “note” just like here, there are no mention of any names, heck there isn’t even the mention of an agency. Yet I still got my hand smacked. Which when this one is found I am sure I will get my hand smacked again. Once again, people who don’t know us, me or my family, are going to make judgements about us. I have ALWAYS written. Admittedly not always in such a public forum, but I have always written. It is a release for me. I have to get my frustrations and hurt out someway. Specially since I don’t have the government paying for a shrink for me to see.
If and when I am allowed to visit with her, when I ask questions about her schooling or swim team activities I am accused of putting her under stress and being demeaning to her. When I found out she had a boyfriend, a fact which her Guardian Ad Litem as well as DFS did NOT know, I was supposed to be ok with the fact she was going out alone with this boy, unsupervised in his personal vehicle. A rule which was always strictly enforced in our home.
No one within “the system” has seen the real side of my daughter simply for the fact that she does not have to live by any “rules”. She is not being put under any stress or being told no. I am the one who gets in trouble for trying to tell them about the real her and I am the one who gets into trouble whenever I try to bring up “reality” in front of her. I am repeatedly told I should be happy that I get to see her at all and I should be ok with the fact I lost my housing and have spent the last 4 months paying $1600 a month for a flea bag motel room when I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING WRONG - I AM NOT CHARGED WITH ANYTHING, I am not even being investigated!!!!!!!!
In addition, my daughter’s GAL (Guardian ad Litem) has filed a motion with the court to suspend my visitation until some of the points of the Family Plan have been completed (such as a psychological profile of myself, anger management classes (because I am not supposed to be angry - I am supposed to be happy), parenting classes, etc). When I questioned why the motion to suspend my visits that is what I was told. My response was, why am I being punished and I was informed because I have failed to even begin any of those items. I said I was not aware I was supposed to be doing anything, I thought you had people you contracted with and they would be contacting ME. So now I don’t even get the 1 visit per week with my daughter because of something I didn’t even know.
I have contacted, over time of course, all the agencies that I have been told to contact for help (Interfaith, Casper Housing, etc.) to no avail. As for legal help, I have asked the court for a court appointed lawyer (denied because I am not being charged with anything) (which now finally after 5 months I am FINALLY getting), local area attorneys (who say they can’t help and if they are willing they want HUGE retainers up front). I have contacted the ACLU and couldn’t even get them to talk to me. Well they did talk to me long enough to say they wouldn’t handle something like that but they would look into it, they would send me a release of information form to fill out (I have never received).
I honestly feel as though my civil rights have been trampled on in this case as well as my parental rights. I don’t think what I am asking for is too much and that is to be treated with respect and acknowledgment that I AM STILL HER MOTHER. My bottom line concern is for her and in our present situation this is not being allowed to happen. All I want is to ensure she is cared for by someone who actually knows her. Not someone looking to make a buck off of her. Right now there are several monetarily interested parties involved in this mess. Getting federal monies for her to be in “protective custody” and believe me I use that term VERY loosely. DFS, the foster parents, her therapist. Surely I can not be so wrong in what I seek.
Now don’t get me wrong. I have discovered over this last month, that I am not the only one this is happening to. Some how in some small way, I feel like if I am able to bring attention to this, that it will help people. While yes it will be nice to “right my wrong”, but it would be even better for this to not happen to ANYONE.
So please, feel free to share your stories and comments with me. I have found a group, it’s extremely small right now, but is eager to grow, of people going through things similar to my experience.
Comment by Lydia — January 16, 2009 @ 10:50 am
Lydia,
My name is JoLisa. I discovered this website last June. Just as you said at the beginning of your story, my whole life seems like it was written for a soap opera. But it wasn’t.
I didn’t even know that I wasn’t the only one until I stumbled over this way. For years I thought that I was crazy and that I was a bad mother because of CPS putting me through a nightmare I never awoke from.
My story is actually very complex and my release, like you, is to write. But I have to say that this website has been very theraputic for me. It keeps me from feeling sorry for myself because I am too busy helping other people and I have made friends that I would have not otherwise met.
The most recent chapter to my story is the creepy phone call I received a few days ago, threatening me that if I didn’t stop posting comments on the internet that the caller would retaliate by fabricating a story about me being an arsonist and a murderer.
We appear to have a lot in common.
But if it is okay with you, I would really like to talk to you in a manner that is a tad bit more private. So if you are willing to take the time to do so, please email me. lindbloom_jm@yahoo.com
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 17, 2009 @ 1:49 am
My daughter and grandson are now in the system,due to a very over zealous cps worker.She moved from our home to a town where she could to collage and make a better life for her and her son.She is a wonderful mom,and very strong young lady.She now has to go to dhs to visit her son,2hours a day twice a week.She came to visit over weekend,and her son was with us and the child’s real dad,he apparently got hurt during this time,and since she could not pin point when and how he got hurt,they sent him to hosp to have full body scan,they found two old,healed,calcified rib fractures to go along with his hurt foot,which we had no doubt happened when he was born,so they made my daughter leave him in hosp,a baby of 7 months without his mother.How do they just jump to conclusions? I can absolutely promise,with every fiber of my being,that my baby girl did not and would not ever hurt or cause any harm to come to my grandson.She is my hero.
Comment by Beulah Harmon — January 17, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
THIS ACS WOKER HAS BECAME A NIGHT MARE TO MY FAMILY.THIS WORKER IS FROM WEST AFRICA AND IS TELLING MY HUSBAND WAYS TO FILE FOR CITIZENSHIP THROUGH THE CHILDREN BECAUSE HE IS FROM WEST AFRICAN ALSO WITH NO PAPERS.THE WORKER HAS BEEN USING HER POWER IN THE WRONG WAY TELLING THE COURTS SYSTEM MANY UNTRUE STORIES ABOUT ME JUST A FEW; LIKE SHE DONE A HOUSE VISIT AND THE WORKER SAW ME DRUNK PASSED OUT IN THE HALL WAY AND SHE JUST LEFT ME THERE WITHOUT CALLING THE POLICE TO SEE IF I NEEDED HELP OR WAS HURT.THE WORKER ALSO TOLD THE COURTS THAT DURING AN INTERVIEW WITH ME I WAS SPACE OUT,NOSE WAS RUNNING,I WAS SWEATING, EYES WAS LARGE RED, AS IF IM A PERSON THAT IS ON CRACK OR DOPE,THIS IS NOT TRUE THE WORKER IS JUST MAKING ME LOOK BAD AND THE COURTS BELEIVE HER, SO MY HUSBAND CAN HAVE CUSTODY OF THE CHILDREN BECAUSE HE IS ILLEGAL ON THE COUNTRY USING MANY DIFFERENT NAMES BY HIM REPORTING TO IMMAGARTION HE HAS FULL CUSTODY THIS CAN HELP HIM WITH HIS PAPERS. THE CHILDREN AND I HAS A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP I NEVER ABUSED THE CHILDREN. THE CHILDREN DONT WANT TO BE WITH THE FATHER AND TOLD THE WORKER THE COURTS WHAT CAN WE DO TO END THIS CASE AND HAVE THE CHILDREND RETURNED WITH THIER LOVING MOTHER , I WANT A DIVORCE A.S.A.P. FOR THIS MAN THIS MAN CHANGE ON ME SOON AFTER THE MARRIAGE TELLING ME THAT HE DONT NEED ME NO LONGER AND IS THE REASON WHY ACS AND THE COURTS IS ON MY CASE.THIS ACS WORKER AND MY HUSBAND HAD THIS PLAN AND THEY NEEDED TO GET RID OF ME ANY WAY THEY COULD THE WORKER TRY TO LOCK ME AWAY TO A LIVE IN REABATIATION CENTER SO I COULD NOT SHOW UP TO FACE THESE CHARGES IN COURT THE COURTS WAS NOT THERE WHEN I WAS GIVING BIRTH SHOPPING DAYS AFTER BIRTH IN PAIN LOOKING FOR CRIBS PAMPERS MILK ETC NOR WAS THE ACS WORKER.WHEN I CALLED THE ACS SUPERVISIOR SHE KNEW NOTHING OF MY CASE.THE WORKER LEFT LETTERS UNDER MY DOOR CLAIMING I USE CRACK,THEN SHE CHANGE IT TO ABUSE ALL OF MY CHILDREN ARE OLD ENOUGH TO TALK FOR THERE SELF I HAVE THREE SONS 16,11,8, NOW THE NEW CHARGES ON ME IS THAT I BEEN TOUCHING THE KIDS IN THE WRONG WAY, THIS WORKER IS SO UNPROFESSIONAL AND I THINK THIS CASE IS A WAIST OF TIME,TAX DOLLARS THIS MONEY CAN BE USE ON THE BUDGET CUT TO KEEP THE FIRE HOUSE OPEN OR TO HELP CHILDREN THAT IS IN DANGER, ONE THING IS FOR SURE MY CHILDREN IS IN NO DANGER WHILE IN MY CARE, THE FATHER DONT CARE OF THE KIDS HE ONLY WANT HIS PAPERS. THIS ACS WORKER IS DOING THIS TO ME BECAUSE IM BLACK AMERICAN LIVING ON WELFARE AND I HAVE NO MONEY FOR A LAWYER. WHAT CAN I DO TO MAKE THIS ACS CASE GO AWAY. WORKER LIKE HER IS THE REASON WHY THE SYSTEM FAILS,SINCE THE FATHER HADE THE KIDS MY OLDEST SON WAS IN JAIL THREE TIMES AND MY HUSBAND WHO IS NOT HIS FATHER JUST LEFT MY SON IN JAIL THE WORKER DID NOTHING AS WELL WHAT I HAVE TO DO WAIT FOR ONE OF MY KIDS END UP DEAD. I DONT WANT TO HERE ANY SORRY I JUST WANT MY KIDS BACK BEFOR IT TO LATE.THIS CASE IS EASY MONEY THAT WHY SHE ON IT.THIS WORKER NEEDS TO GO BACK SCHOOL OR FING A JOB WORKING FOR IMMAGARATION BECAUSE USING KIDS FOR PAPERS ITS NOT RIGTH BREAKING UP FAMILIES IS UNJUST. ANY FEE BACK, OR HELP PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR ME PLEASE.
Comment by SHEKILA KEMP — January 17, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
Skelila,
I am in NYC. Please check this website
http://www.cwop.org
And call them. They may be able to help,
Comment by MaggieC — January 17, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
Shekila,
I have some websites and contacts that may be helpful to you. But I need to know where you live to get started.
Also, I have some things that my friend sent to my email. She holds a political position in public office. She took office to help put an end to CPS.
I would like to forward them to you and if you would like me to, email me at lindbloom_jm@yahoo.com
Be careful what you say on here. Evil social workers lurk in the shaddows and spy on us. They use what they find on here to CONTROL US. My case closed years ago and that is why I know what I do. I just didn’t know all of this stuff when I was the target.
I will pray for you and your children.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 18, 2009 @ 2:27 am
Sheila NY Group:
Very old, very trusted. From a personal acquaintance, I have heard they do good work. Meetings often in the boros.
http://www.cwop.org
Childrens Welfare Organizing Project. Please respond here, if you received this message and intend to act upon it.
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — January 18, 2009 @ 9:25 am
I know that I have suggested using the message boards since they are free. One of them is http://www.zabasearch.com I received a hit tonight. My zabasphere alerts me through my email every time my name is searched. I had a hit around 8pm.
I got excited because I was hoping it was my son, Joseph. But it wasn’t. The hit list said that the location of the search was in the 98122 zip code, 206 area code, Seattle Washington. My guess is that my daughter is using her work computer.
To make sure that it wasn’t someone else, I logged on to myspace to see when she last logged on. I verified that it was today.
For someone who doesn’t want contact with me, she goes through a lot of trouble to spy on me.
She reads everything that I post on here, she is searching my zabasphere, she probably searches my blogs on myspace. I get a threatening message on my cell phone at 12 at night when she knows that I am in bed telling me that she is going to tell lies about me if I don’t stop posting comments on the internet.
I have only contacted her 3 times. The first time didn’t hear back when I wrote her a letter and sent it to her certified mail. The second time I sent certified mail and it was returned but she sent me a certified letter that I posted in August. Third time I emailed her on myspace to let her know about a serious health problem and she emailed me back. I posted that this month.
SHE BLEW ME OFF! I AM NO LONGER INTERESTED IN GETTING TO KNOW HER.
MY HUSBAND CALLED CALLED HER A CRAZY BITCH.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 19, 2009 @ 12:39 am
I have been fighting for over 1 year for my nephew. He was detained by CPS, out of his parents’ care, 11-23-07, he was 17 monhts old. As a maternal aunt, whom HE lived with for the first 10 months of his life, I requested placement within DAYS of his detainment and have been requesting ever since. I have 2 relative placement approvals and an approved adoptive home study!! YET he lingers in foster care at the age of TWO! ON 2-4-09 the FINAL placement hearing is set. I am named as Prospective Adoptive Parent (as is my husband) by State Adoptions BUT the foster parents and CPS fight me and have also hired an attorney. I hired an attorney in August 2008. BOTH biological parents have signed designated relinquishments to me & my husband, recognized 12-1-08, BUT he is STILL in that foster home!!!!!!!!
I am NOT going to give up this fight!!! Relatives COME FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am interested in first rescuing my nephew from being adopted out of our family and legislation changes.
Thank you! I am 35 years old and thought I was a realist………..never in my nightmares would I have dreamed up this could EVER happen in AMERICA!!!! People have to be educated about this so we can change it!
Comment by Kimberly Fraser — January 19, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
Kimberly-
I am a grandmother and spent $30K and 17 months getting my 2 granddaughters out of adoptive foster care despite passing all the home studies, etc. I know EXACTLY what you are going thru.
And in the end, the judge stated why he did not want us to have them; which may help you in your fight.
He was very worried that by having a relative adoption or guardianship adjudicated, that we would (behind his back) not only allow the parents to visit them BUT send them home to live with them. This seems to be the biggest reason judges, GAL’s and CPS attornies do not like relatives to have custody in any way shape or form. And I do understand that.
BUT—–
We were forced to make a decision between our daughter and son-in-law or those wonderful kids. Weather the parents were quilty or not made no difference. They couldn’t get a fair shake in CPS hands even though they had NEVER been criminally charged.
We decided to hire our own attorney and he was adament with the judge that we would NEVER violate that court order for anyone and our clear history was proof of that. We had always paid our taxes on time, never been arrested for anything in our entire lives, had always earned a very good income and had complete stability with over 16 yrs at this house and over 27 years at our current employers.
We promised that we would not be willing to go to jail for the 1st time in our lives over a non-allowed visit or vacation with the parents; certainly NOT to return them home!
The judge agreed reluctantly BUT did threaten us with Contempt of Court carges IF we allowed anymore than a 1 week vacation with the parents over Easter, Xmas, Turkey day or summer break and spring break. He also made the order that the kids decide if they want to go or not. We cannot persuade them to see their parents in any way.
Then, he assigned a 1 year follow up court date, which is coming soon. He will re-evaluate us and the kids behaviors to then determine if we have keep our promise. Our guardianship is adjudicated as permenant but he can revoke it if we screw up.
I assure you, we have not nor will we in the future.
You may want to try the same thing to ease the judges’ mind. He has to feel that he made the right decision. It’s all about the judge worrying about “backlash”.
Good luck!
Comment by Cheryl — January 20, 2009 @ 8:09 am
today is tuesday jan. 20, 2009. i went to my meeting with cps. they are trying to take my and my husband rights away. i got to boys. they are 6 and 4 years old. they took them on april 16, 2008. i haven’t seen them at all. they trying to said that me beat the boys and nectgict them. i got me a attorney. but i don’t think he is doing his job. because he is trying to make me give up my rights from my boys. but i told him that i will never give my rights up. because i never beat my boys or nectgict them. we are going to trial in march of this year. in front of 12 people that don’t no nothen about the case. my oldest son is been in and out of the hopitice. i find out that my youngest boy got miss with by a boy in the foster home.
Comment by Stephanie — January 20, 2009 @ 2:26 pm
Back in Nov of 2007, I was accused of touching my nephews aged 9 and 14 by some cousins. A detective with the Arkansas Crimes Against Children Division interviewed my nephews at school as well as my 8 year old nephew and their 7 year old step brother. Every one of them said no, that I did not touch them. The ACACD Detective cleared me of all charges. But DHS(CPS) got involved. Done a complete background check on me. Yes I am registered in AR from a 1986 incident involving my sister when I was 13 and she, 11. She has forgiven me for it. Also they found a conviction from 1995 where I took a plea deal to not get 20 years, which after I went to prison my 9 year old cousin admitted to both my sister and his mother that I had never touched him, that his dad said that I did. I’ve been out since 2001, off parole since 2002. No sex crimes or any crime in that period. The DHS put a no contact order on me with my nephews and nieces till they turn 18. They even went as far as saying that I molested my niece, who wasnt even born yet, and my sister’s husband, whom is 49. So we obeyed the order. I did not go around them at all. Finally in Nov 2008, DHS finally drops the case. In December of 2008, my sister leaves her husband because he threatened to put her in her grave and kept hitting my 9 year old handicapped nephew. So she went to my brothers house who has no sex offenses on his record, just a B & E from when he was 12, and writing hot checks. She thought she was in a safe house. Three weeks ago her husband called the DHS said that my brother had molested my nephews and one of my nieces, a 3 year old. He had also told the DHS that I had molested his son. A cousin heard my brother-in-law say he was going to tell his son to say these things about me. My sister questioned the boy about it. He said it happened 4 months ago. I wasn’t even around then. They took his son first.. Then he gave them directions to my brothers house, and they took the other 5 children. DHS told her and the kids that they would be returned to her in 72 hours, to my brothers house, if they didn’t find anything on him. They didn’t. His juvenile record is sealed. But they’re still looking, trying to figure out what it is, after my sister told them what it was for. They also told my sister that they would keep the kids together. They lied about that to. My 15 year old nephew is in Jonesboro. AR, the others are separated in different homes in Paragould AR. Only my 9 and 10 year old nephews are together in a cops house who is abusing the 9 year old. We know this because when my sister visited them last thursday, my 10 year old nephew told her that they don’t like their foster dad because he is mean to the 9 year old, who is handicapped. The children even asked my sister, what did we do wrong mom. These children were and are well loved. Yes, I have a sex offense past with my sister, yes I am a level 4 because of multiple allegations in my file, but I love and cherish those kids, we all do. I have left my past behind me and am a successful truck driver. Now the state wants to say that she neglected her children by bringing them around me back in July of 2008, which her husband told the DHS. He had told her before that he’s going to make her lose her kids if she leaves him. I was not around them. I came off the road, did not know that my sister would be at my place visiting my girlfriend. She pulled up in my yard, left the kids in the van and fed them in there, then her husband and step son got in and they left. Now the next court date is March 5th, and she is being told that when she gets them back, they’ll watch her for 60 days, and she has to prove that I wasn’t around her or her kids, then they’ll drop the case, again. False allegations hurt all involved. I have never nor will I molest my sisters kids. They all love me, and want to spend time with me, but DHS says no because of my level status. But on my level 4 paperwork is says I can have supervised contact with children under the age of 16. But DHS thinks they’re gods. They think they know whats best for children, they don’t. Please wish my sister and her kids well. Pray for them as these kids just want to come home and be with their mother who loves them deeply. My 10 year old nephew cried for 3 days and couldn’t sleep every night after they were taken. Poor little guy. I feel for him and his siblings. They don’t deserve this. They deserve to be with family who will love and care for them and raise them to become responsible law abiding adults. I didn’t even eat for three days, or even sleep well after they were taken I was so upset, as the children were. I have learned from my past mistakes, as I’m sure most of us have. Thank you all for listening. God Bless the children of the world, and especially those who are being abused by CPS.
Comment by Paul — January 20, 2009 @ 9:19 pm
Stephanie,
If I was in your shoes I would fire the attorney and make the court give you a new one immediately.
Another thing that I highly recomend is that you get every person you know to make a written declaration of what kind of parents you are. Courthouses keep the written declaration forms on hand.
Also, anything you already have that tells how you do as a parent; certificates, letters, cards, medical records, anything you can get your hands on, but only use copies. Always keep the originals in a safe place.
If you need more assistance, feel free to email me at lindbloom_jm@yahoo.com or call me directly at 253-212-6978
God bless you, your family is in my prayers.
DON’T LOSE HOPE, FOR WITHOUT HOPE, ONE HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 21, 2009 @ 1:07 am
Paul,
I can relate to what you are going through. I just wanted to let you know that your family is in my prayers.
God Bless You…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 21, 2009 @ 1:14 am
Listen to the Alex Jones show if you want to know what the government is really doing to our kids http://www.infowars.com click on listen to the Alex Jones Show.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 21, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
Jolisa,
Thanks so much for your sound advice, You were right about the journal thing. I went to a termination hearing and our journals along with the medical records prevented my rights from being terminated. But they still won’t send my kids home. Pray for me. I listen to Alex Jones too but I go to prisonplanet.tv It is really scary to know how bad the government is. It is sick what they are doing to our kids. It is sick what they are doing to all of us. My 11 year old daughter told me that the school forced her to watch the inaugeration and they were worshiping the new president. I worry about her safety at school a lot as it is, but I don’t want anyone brain washing my little girl. Do you know how to stop this from happening?
Comment by Shelle — January 22, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
Shelle,
Glad I could help. My son told me the exact same thing, but he also told me that I shouldn’t have brought him to school. To stop the brainwashing, google the words “hatch agreement” and a bunch of stuff will pop up. A hatch agreement is an agreement that makes your child exempt from specific things you do not want your child exposed to. Make several copies, sign them all, keep a copy, serve the school with a copy, have your children each have copies on them at all times. If you have an attorney, give him/her a copy. But I don’t know if it applies to your children since they aren’t in your custody. I will pray for you. Take care…
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 22, 2009 @ 8:25 pm
I am in law school right now and I am interested in the CPS issue. I was wondering if there is anybody out there that knows of any groups of lawyers that do pro bono work on this issue. I would love to work in this field but unfortunately most of the victims of CPS are unable to afford a lawyer. If there isn’t such an organization out there now, mabye someone should start one. I think it is sorely needed.
Comment by Gavin — January 23, 2009 @ 8:30 am
http://www.Childrensrights.org
Does class actions v CPS in various states with cooperating attorneys.
They also handle some individual cases. Primarily abuse in FC. This is a new direction for them and is relatively low key.
There is also a Martin Guggenheim in NYC who is a law prof. Google him.
Large organizations like Youth Law in SF and Education Law sites, too.
Keane Law in California does a lot of FC abuse and basic child abuse.
Many law schools have Family Law Clinics.
Chicago has many law schools and many law clinics, too.
Some folks here have had some success contacting the Law School affiliated clinics.
It seems that there is widespread disregard for kin who wish to shelter or foster relatives. Federal wording provides *consideration* for kin who wish to foster.
WA just had a stunning reversal where GP’s were granted custody of their kin who had been taken to FC, in disregard of family bonds and the previous relationship they had with the child.
I would take a look at individual states in AFRA Website.
http://www.familyrights.us
Go under Site Contents.
Thence to Membera and Friends (US)
Under there you will find links to each US state and at top of state page, links to either state activists or to state groups.
Many attorneys are afraid to challenge CPS and folks often complain about Public Pretenders.
The FLDS case in TX has illuminated many problems common to CPS agencies, within the US.
Tell us your state and we’ll try to provide further info.
F.
Comment by Fern — January 23, 2009 @ 9:34 am
I CAN PRETTY MUCH PROVE THAT CPS GOT INVOLVED IN OUR LIVES FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. HERES WHAT THEY SAID IN A LETTER TO US ABOUT 8 YRS AGO WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED OUR CASE. HERES THEIR OWN WORDS. NO MALTREATMENT OF THE KIDS WAS DETERMINED BUT CPS IS STILL NEEDED??? WHAT??? IF THEY BASICALLY SAID WITH THEIR OWN WORDS WE DID NOTHING WRONG TO OUR KIDS THEN WHATS THE PROBLEM JUST GIVE US OUR KIDS BACK. I EVEN SHOWED THAT PART OF THE LETTER TO THE SOCIAL WORKER AND SHE HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT SCAMMERS THOSE PEOPLE ARE. AND THIS PROVES TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SAY OH IF YOU HAVE CPS IN YOUR LIFE THEN YOU DID SOMETHING TO DESERVE IT. SO I SAY TO YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND START ACCUSING PEOPLE OF SOMETHING UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!
Comment by SCOTT A. — January 23, 2009 @ 12:02 pm
Gavin,
Unless you are planning to become a public defender, chances are that you will not find an attorney to work with to get the experience you need. But I encourage you to keep looking until you find someone to be your mentor. We need more lawyers with your concern and interest. May I suggest googling CPS attorneys? Or maybe you could post on the “lawyers” at the top of the page.
Comment by Shelle — January 23, 2009 @ 12:46 pm
Scott,
Who told you that if you have CPS in your life that you did something wrong to deserve it? Talk about being kicked when you’re down. How rude! I don’t think that anyone deserves it. No matter how bad things are at home, kids are safest with the biological parents and family members. CPS murders kids!
Comment by Brian — January 23, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
Gavin,
If I won the lotto; this is precisely what I would do; start a Legal Aid Program for low income people for all problems. My mother and I took note of how a class action suit on makeup could make it through the courts and yet something like children being taken away is so difficult for attorneys.
Comment by Gingerroot — January 23, 2009 @ 8:36 pm
I have been victimized by CPS my whole life. I wasn’t protected when I needed it, they gave my mother my daughter after she abandoned me and threw us out repeatedly. They tortured my oldest son just because I had previous involvement, (thanks to my mother). I am so tired of these deceitful, over-privileged yuppies giving me the sh*tty end of the stick while they live the good life.
Whatever happened to, “The truth will set you free?” I’m still waiting for my turn.
I was talking with my grandmother last night and she told me that my grandfather was in the hospital a couple weeks ago with congestive heart failure. When I asked her why she didn’t call me she said that she didn’t want something getting started.
She said that Kerry, (my mother,) and Debbie, (my aunt,) were supposed to come down to see him, but they never showed up. Lyndsey-Reine, (my daughter,) didn’t come because she was working, (but she had plenty of time to spy on me and threaten me?)
I could care less what they do, as long as it doesn’t have any adverse effects on me, my husband or my son.
When my son was 2 years old, my grandpa got me a car for Mother’s Day. He didn’t ever do that for anyone else that I am aware of. So what is next? Am I going to be denied permission to go to his funeral because some selfish, unreliable jerks say that they are going to show up? God forbid. I didn’t do anything to deserve this crap, but it keeps getting shoveled my way.
My friends and their children have become my family. They have never put me down or turned me away or abandoned me.
Why should I be denied the right to be at my grandfather’s bedside when he is in the hospital. He never has nor will he ever deny me. But they did. They denied us both! They couldn’t even show up to his sick bed.
And just like I wasn’t given a choice about weather or not I was going to raise my daughter, I wasn’t given a choice about weather or not I was going to be with him.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 23, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
JoLisa,
Can you tell me if there is something my daughter can do about one of her older daughters..Shes the one who has been tossed around from institution to institution like a sack of potatoes?
I mean its been 6 years , I said 5 up there, but my daughter corrected me on that..It’s been 6..
Anyway this girl has no stability what so ever to this day….That should be against the law..The judge stated in her final whatever you call it that my daughter couldn’t provide her with stability as the main reason she could not go home with her.. What a joke, she’d have done a lot better job than they have done!!
My daughter mentioned something about emancipation? Do you know anything about that? Or is there something her daughter can do to petition the court?
She will be 15 in April..My understanding is she has recently been placed with a family but she still wants her mom, so I know its a matter of time before she tries to run or tries hurting herself again…
And great news, her oldest daughter, her 17 year old, is on myspace..She has accepted me as her friend..She doesn’t talk much to me, but I leave her many messages telling her how much we love her and miss her..She is angry and hurt. (she confides in one of my other daughters whom she also accepted as her friend). She hasn’t accepted her mother as her friend yet, but I really see that coming. She says she is hurt because she has been told things..But these are lies CPS has told her. But I am confident, we will get through these..
Comment by Florence — January 23, 2009 @ 10:15 pm
God Bless you too, JoLisa, and everyone here. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord..
One night when an Evangelist was at our church, he picked my daughter out of the crowd..He told her..God told me his blessings were robbed of you by satin’s lies..He wanted me to tell you, he sees your tears and hears your cries and he wants to assure you it will not go unpunished..
So keep the faith everyone..Their day is coming!!
Comment by Florence — January 23, 2009 @ 10:54 pm
Florence:
The problem of mentally ill children is acute.
There is a national organization called:
The Bazelon Center ( or institute) I think my spelling may be off, too. Google it.
However, recent studies have come out affirming that KINSHIP CARE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO STRANGER FOSTER CARE.
Yet, there are children who are deeply disturbed. The teenage cutting phenom is relatively new. Yet, when teens hear something today, their tendency is always to latch onto it.
Also, teens are horrible to each other today. There really is a lot of harassment, exclusions, and meanness toward any child who is DIFFERENT.
Far worse than when I was a teen..
Schools are increasingly becoming LIABLE FOR THEIR NEGLECTFUL and INDIFFERENT BEHAVIORS IN THESE OCCURRENCES.
in fact, just recently one family has the ok to sue their school district for the lack of intervention by the schools.
You are not alone. I have heard your story before, and CPS, I believe, has exacerbated many teenage problems, ( by offering out the hopes that kids can escape their parents.)
What CPS does is spawn a new generation of disaffected, alienated teens.
And guess what? The childrens’ brains are too messed up to figure it out, so they resort to ANGER AND ACTING OUT.
iT IS a serious and largely unrecognized problem. Try some of what I suggested and get back to us.
Best. F.
Comment by fern — January 24, 2009 @ 8:06 am
I also wish to remind folks that:
http://www.childrensrights.org
May now take on individual suits v state CPS agencies. Think they concentrate mostly on abuse withing FC, however, institutional abuse ( like in juvenile facilities, mental health facilities may have a rich enough pot for them to pursue) And it is all about the Benjamins.
Call them in NYC. It is on their Website, but hidden.
California residents should know that CALIFORNIA HAS A FUND FOR FOLKS ABUSED WITHIN FC.
I believe this is what the Keane Law Firm in California specializes in. Abuse within FC, etc.
F.
Comment by fern — January 24, 2009 @ 8:10 am
Look at social networks such as:
http://www.twitter.com/childadvocates.
Comment by M.D. WALLS — January 24, 2009 @ 4:50 pm
None of these girls had ANY problems until they were taken away from their mother..The one who gets tossed around like a sack of potatoes from institution to institution’s only problem is she wants to be with her mother. So she has behavior problems. (Tries to hurt herself and runs away).
They gave my daughter hope of getting this daughter back, (oh I would say approx 2 years ago), they also gave the daughter that same hope that she might be able to go home with her mother. My daughter drove over 250 miles one way to attend yet another parenting class (this made # 4)( I went with her, every Friday) for 2 months), and we were allowed to see her daughter 1 hour after the session…After all these classes were over, than came the termination hearing..This was when my daughters attorney said the judge wanted to know if she had means to take care of her, and etc..Asked me if I would be available to help and so on and so on..I said oh yeah, me and other family and friends.. He said the judge was upset because these people were getting paid good money to care for this girl and nothing but NOTHING had improved all the time she has been there..
One of the women at this place got on the stand and said that the girls behavior was bad after being with her mother one day..She said the daughter stated she was upset because she found out that day that she would not be seeing her sisters anymore, because the people (2 different families) felt it was too far to drive and with their working hours, they just couldn’t find the time. But she said she didn’t believe that had anything to do with it, she was just using that as an excuse..
I have not seen such b/s in all my life. And the judge sat there and honestly believed that line of crap?? That the girl wouldn’t be upset just hearing she would not be seeing her siblings anymore???
I think their all on crack!!
Comment by Florence — January 24, 2009 @ 6:07 pm
Thanks fen, I am going to look into that..I wrote more before I seen what you wrote..
Comment by Florence — January 24, 2009 @ 6:13 pm
To Linda Morris: have you tried filing for a state administrative hearing to request custody? An administrative law judge (ALJ) may tell the caseworkers to let you have kinship care rights since you weren’t at fault in the first incident. You never know, unless you ask. You don’t need an attorney to file for a state administrative hearing, but you should probably write a declaration of facts and some kind of statement to give the ALJ your side of the story in writing as well as at the hearing. You can find a sample declaration of facts in our legal document library.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — January 24, 2009 @ 7:40 pm
JoLisa, in reply to your post on January 7 about your daughter… I know you feel pressured because of your medical condition, but from what I read in your daughter’s message it sounds like there IS hope that she’ll want to be around you in the future. Don’t push her away now because you’re angry, frustrated and impatient.
Believe me, I KNOW what it is like. I have two daughters that were raised apart from me; now they are ages 28 and 29. The oldest one is in touch with me but it took a few years for her to let go of the brainwashing and trust me again. The younger is still under the influence of the brainwashing and has Parental Alienation Syndrome. I don’t think your daughter is that far gone. Please be patient and know she is biding her time because she’s still too close to the person who raised her.
Now, regarding your medical condition it is imperative that you take care of yourself by doing things that bring joy to your life. Focus on your self-healing. Find the source of love within you and then spread it to others. Do not focus on what gave you pain. If you would like more help with self-healing I can give tips that would truly help you on the path of recovery. Email me if interested.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — January 24, 2009 @ 8:15 pm
Florence,
Every time you post it reminds me of my oldest son, Joseph. He too will be 15 in April, on the 17th in fact. CPS said that he suffered from detatchment disorder caused by me, but his behavioral problems didn’t stem until he was taken from me and he would cry and cling to me on every visit. He would beg me to hide him and sneak him out of there. He told me what they were doing to him. He was scared, he was in pain. But I was completely helpless. I could do nothing and it was killing me to watch them torture him.
As for your question about emancipation, I looked into it for myself when I was a teenager since I was a mom myself. No state will even consider emancipation before the age of 16. They have to prove that they can take care of themselves by having a job, having a checking or savings account for at least 6 months that shows that they are responsible with money, and either enrolled in high school or college, or has completed or taking classes for a high school equivelency test.
Other things that may be taken into consideration are mental health factors, juvenile records, ect…
Since each state is different, I would google “juvenile emancipation mandates by state law.”
With our econemy in it’s current state, I wouldn’t be surprised if the emancipation rate is down from where it was before 9/11.
Another thing that you should be aware of is that some states let a minor decide where they want to live once they reach a certain age. In Washington State, for example, it is 12 or 13 years of age, I can’t remember which, it’s been so long since I looked the statute up.
Some states don’t acknowlege a child’s right to choose. One would think that your grand daughter’s best interest would be to live with her mother for her own safety.
But let us all remember that CPS is not in the business of protecting children. They will never accept accountability for all of the mistakes, corruption, abuse and deaths that occur, intentionally or unintentionally because of the simple fact that it isn’t about protecting anyone, it’s about making money and that is presicely why society is so disfunctional and our children don’t know which side is up.
I think you might be able to find the answers that you are looking for by going to:
http://www.americanfamilyrightsassociation.com
http://www.childrensrights.org
Hope I was helpful. God bless you and your family, Florence. I’m still praying for you.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 24, 2009 @ 11:27 pm
Florence,
I forgot to tell you that as a person that has been victimized on both ends of the spectrum, I know how you and your daughter feel and I know how your grand daughter feels.
AND YOU DESERVE TO BE VALIDATED FOR THAT!!!
From the viewpoint of a ward of the state, I can assure you that most of the kids in the system don’t have any stability. Most of them would be better off if they were with their parents, even if they themselves were living on the streets.
REMEMBER, JESUS WAS HOMELESS!!!
AND HE SAID THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR A CAMEL TO GET THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE THAN FOR A RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF SOMETIMES THAT GOD PROVIDES SUNLIGHT FOR BOTH THE SINNER AND THE SAVED.
AND THAT JESUS COMANDED US TO FORGIVE 70 X 7. THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT EVERY 3 SECONDS!
AND THAT I AM TO PRAY FOR MY ENEMIES. BOY OH BOY, THAT IS A HARD ONE! I STRUGGLE WITH IT EVERY DAY.
But if we read and believe in Revelation, we know that we are already out of time. So if we aren’t living for the Lord, we will be worce off than the fool who doesn’t know his own sin.
Comment by JoLisa Lindbloom — January 24, 2009 @ 11:56 pm
TO ALL AFTER 27 MONTH I GOT MY KIDS BACK THEY HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED SO BAD THAT NOW I SEE THE REAL BATTLE HELPING THEM WITH ALL THEIR MENTAL TRAUMA. I HAVE PICTURES AND STORIES TO SHARE BUT I WANT ALL TO KNOW THAT THEIR IS HOPE AND THE SYSTEM IS FOR THOSE THAT HIRED PRIVATE ATTORNEY BECAUSE ONLY THEN THEY TAKE YOU SEROUS. LET GET TOGETHER AND FIGHT TO ALL THAT WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE AND FIGHT LET SUE AS THE LARGEST CLASS ACTION LAW SUE IN HISTORY LETS STAND TOGETHER AND BE HEARD. IF YOU ARE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED THEN CONTACT ME AT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS http://WWW.DEFENDINGPARENTALRIGHTS@LIVE.COM
TODAY I THANK GOD I HAVE MY BOYS BACK AND I JUST HAVE LOVE AND AFFECTION TO GIVE THEM DAY AND NIGHT. SO THEIR IS HOPE WHEN YOU GET INVOLVE AND WORK WITH THE ATTORNEY IN YOUR CASE. NEVER AGREE TO AND OTC. NEVER NOT TAKE IT TO TRAIL. THEY HAVE TO PROVE ABUSE THEY CAN ALWAYS LIE AND MAKE STORIES TO PROVE NEGLECT BUT UP TO WHAT POINT YOU REALLY ARE NEGLECTING YOUR KID. ANYTHING CAN BE NEGLECT.
SO DON’T GIVE UP IT IS A UP HILL BATTLE BUT YOUR KIDS ARE INNOCENT OK THEY LIE ON YOUR KIDS TO TURN PARENTS AGAINST THE KIDS AND BACK WORTH.
Comment by DEFENDING PARENTAL RIGHTS — January 27, 2009 @ 12:02 am
Need advice quick
This has some detail so please bear with me.
I have custody of my 6 year old niece and have had her 5 years. We want to adopt. No contact from mother and once from father (two years ago).
The parents live another state. The father (my brother) was going to contest, but now said he will consent. The mother has moved several times and not kept in contact. However I do talk with the maternal grandmother often. She wants to stay involved with her grandchild, but
the maternal grandfather is difficult. He doesn’t want her contacting me, so we I can’t call her, I have to wait till she calls me. (She has to wait till he is not home),
I do not want to ever cut off ties with the maternal grandmother. (my mother also has contact with the child)
However the child was malnutrished when we got her. Our family doctor said she would have died had she been in that envoriment 1 more month.
Both parents are in trouble with the police and have warrants.
I’m not using any of this information
in my case. I just want to prtect this child.
Currently she has medical problems due to the early malrution. We have her on our secondary insurance and state medicaid. (by the way, we have applied for any money from the state, just medicaid).
The problem, The secondary insurance only covers to a certain point. Medicaid has not ever paid any benifits. When we got her she had no immunizations, Medicaid denined all claims as well as the secondary insurance, claiming she should have already those immunizations. Anyhow we paid for them at 100%. Here is one of the problems, we need to get her on our primary insurance. so she’ll have enough coverage for all her medical problems. (right now we looking at kidney damage) The kidneys are one of the last organs to develop, if fact they are still developing the first year of life, that is why it’s inparative that children receive proper nutrution during the first 12 months. She was given cows milk, no formual. She did not receive the proper nutreints. Now we are facing medical problems.
The primary will not allow us to add her unless he adopt her. I have been very apprehenstive about this because the mother is the type to start problems, even with her own issue with the police etc. Also, I had an unfounded report two years ago. I’m just affraid of losing her. To me she’s my child.
The second part of this story, the mother is in some trouble with the police, and I’m concerned for my daughters older brother. (the mother has custody) I received information that could involve CPS. (Her ex-husband called my sister stating he reported her to the police. I won’t go into detail, because I don’t know if it’s true because it’s the ex-husband) Like I said that information is not part of my case.
However if it’s true, I’m concerned that CPS may take this other child. I don’t if CPS will consider me as a foster parent, because I’m out of state. I know that there is a great deal involved with fostering a child which included visitations and court dates. It would be difficult for me to travel back and forth between the states. I guess I’m asking if CPS would even consider me because of that fact? I know this site believes that parents are best where the child is concerned, but in my neices case, I have to disagree. My brother goes from friends to friends to crash. He has no place of his own. He is hiding from the police because he has warrants. This is nothing new, he lives this way. The mother has not contacted the child in 5 years. She moves alot, (I don’t know why) The maternal grandmother states she’s doing, ok as well as the older brother. Like I said the information I received about her is quit diffrent, but comes from an unrealiable source. My daughter doesn’t know her, and needs security. I want to ensure she has proper medical insurance. I also want to ensure that she is taken care of if anything happened to my husband and me. As it stands now she would be returned to the mother and I do not feel that would be in her best interest. I started the procedings for intent to adopt. I’m affraid once the mother is notified she will flip. It’s one thing to give custody, quite another to give up the child for adoption. If we get to adopt her I still want the maternal grandmother to have contact. If later the mother wants to have contact, that’s fine, but she (the child) needs protection and security. I need prays and any advice from anyone that has been through this. Fran
Comment by fran — January 28, 2009 @ 6:53 am
update on my need quick advise
We did not nor do we plan to ask for money aid from the state, as we consider this child as our own.
Comment by fran — January 28, 2009 @ 7:13 am
Hello all. I posted on here in December. Disraught. heartbroken. My stepdaughter had made a false accusation of abuse against me and her father to CPS, via the school counselor. They called us to her high school, to talk to us. My husband and I had been out running errands and our 5 yr old son was with us because his school was out for the day. We went there and so began my nightmare.
I have never had so much as a traffic ticket. I am a 41 year old woman, a registered nurse for 20 years, a nurse practitioner for over 8 years, master’s degree educated respected health care professional, active member in my parish, volunteer in the community. Married almost 9 years. I have never been to court on ANY type of matter in my life.
my step daughter is 16 and will be 17 in 2 weeks. she has been diagnosed as having Oppostional Defiant Disorder. She had a major depressive episode and tried to kill herself. She is suspected of being Bipolar. She has had homicidal and cannibalistic ideations while in the psychiatric hospital on more than one occasion. She has been under constant consistent mental health care and counseling for the last 3 years. We have never ever stopped her treatment although we strongly feel she has had no improvement.
As she has grown older she has become increasingly more defiant and in the month of october - december, verbally aggressive to both of us. She has been an A student and started simply refusing to do her homework. She then received consequences for her poor grades. She has been sneaking around with a 19 nearly 20 year old boyfriend we have told her she is not allowed to see. (this started last year when she was only 15 and he was 18). Because she was grounded and evidently wanted out of the house to see this boy or her best friend she became very aggressive with us, starting fights. She then started threatening us that she wanted out of this house, she would get out of this house and she had a plan. This was after we told her NO we would not give her money to move out (remember she is 16 !!!) with her friend and no we would not support her financially if she filed for emancipation…..it would be laughable reading about her requests if this kid were not totally serious she expects this from us. her behavior has run the entire range of out of control for a child. Let me just say she has lied, stolen money, jewelry, electronics, and clothing from me and had no remorse nor apology. She constantly violates all of our personal boundries and spaces - goes through things, our rooms, our purse and wallet…..stolen all the money out of her little brother’s piggy banks even ! She has lied about her father repeatedly to family members, her therapist, her psychiatrist, because she wants him “off her back” (he tends to be a little stricter than me) which has caused innumerable family conflict and trouble for my husband. She has accused him of abuse, of using drugs, of being mean to her, of being anything she can come up with.
This child with all of these documented difficulties….accuses us of physical abuse. She apparently has some scratches on her arm….from me supposedly attacking her. We never saw them. She has a long documented history of cutting and self mutilation. They of course believe her. She tells them NOTHING about her mental health history. We are treated like CRIMINALS. Because our son was with us they tell us he will also be removed from the home. (while waiting to talk to them, while my husband was in the office …they seperated us…..I called my mother frantically and told her to drop everything and come to the high school to get our son)…..My son doesnt understand what is going on…CPS tells me if my mother doesnt come, that our son will be taken to juvenille hall along with his sister in DOWNTOWN DETROIT. I thought my heart would literally stop beating. I thought i would faint, literally. my mother arrived thank the Lord above….they let him go with her after they ask for her soc security number driver’s license and etc….my parents are well off business owners in the community and live in an affluent neighborhood, apparently they backed off once they got my mom’s address and my dad’s info. My son leaves with grandma. He is told only that his sister is having some problems and he needs to go home with grandma.
They let my husband go home to get my stepdaughter’s things and all her medications. When he gets back to the school CPS says she is asking for her hair straightening iron …gee she sounds sooo distressed….my husband goes back home to get it….they take her to a shelter.
we arrive back home and are there about 10 min and the police arrive to question me because the school has now made a criminal complaint against me. I again start feeling physically ill but I buck up and talk to them…explaining I did not lay a finger on her and about her history.
we meet with CPS that following monday and my step daughter is the picture of outlandish defiant inappropriate behavior during the entire meeting. I bring all her medical records and relate her entire psychiatric history. I relate that she is on probation due to creating a disturbance at the school and repeatedly lying to the principal after her and 5 kids skipped all day and were driving around in a car smoking pot. the teen center counselor present asks me if we have ever been to a parenting class for parenting adolescents “because parenting an adolescent is much different than parenting a 5 year old” It took all my self control to not burst out laughing at her ridculous comments. Apparently she took us for complete idiots. Well as the “investigation” continued CPS comes to find out my step daughter has told them a lot of hooey about both me and my husband. She actually told them I had lost my nursing license and was working as an RN without a valid license….uhh NOPE ! never not in a million years would I lose my license !! oooooh I was so upset. This teenager had the whole world hopping to her every word.
Well in the shelter apparently she was not too happy because they wouldnt let her come and go as she pleased. she had no cell phone. she had to share a tv and radio with all the girls there. she was threatened by the other teens and someone stole her socks. good grief. she was not allowed to leave with her friends. I think she literally thought she would do this to us and then her life would be a party once she was out of our house. she had little care or worry that she ripped our lives apart and that her brother could not even live with his mommy and daddy. My son is my life, without him I end.
we have a team decision meeting about our son and CPS allows him back home stating there is nothing to indicate ANY abuse with him. They threaten us that they will be visiting his school to interview him there (he attends a catholic school) and we have to allow this. we say nothing because we havent secured a lawyer yet.
CPS calls my stepdaughter’s biological mother in prison (shes serving 2 - 5 years) and asks her about my husband. mind you they were married at age 17 & 18 and split up by the time he was 20 and she lives in Delaware. She has little contact with her own child by her doing. She lost all custody about 8 years ago due to her drug use and many criminal problems. My husband is now 35 yrs old. She tells them for god knows what reason she thinks he is schizophrenic !!! does she even know what that means ? yes he is a schziophrenic who works full time plus as a retail store manager, has friends and family whom he interacts with normally, etc….oh good lord well of course CPS digs around and finds out she is making this up and my husband has no mental health history at all.
sooo we go to court and CPS moves to DISMISS it…and the judge says NO…i THINK MAYBE THESE PARENTS HAVENT DONE ENOUGH FOR THIS GIRL WITH A FRAIL MENTAL STATE. and we are told to come back with more documentation in 1 week. (by the way we have not stopped her treatment for 3 years, she is on 4 psychiatric meds daily for the last three years that we give to her one dose at a time daily, and we are 5, 000 bucks in debt still paying the psychiatric hospital for her care that the insurance would not cover)…..They take her back to the shelter. by now she is hysterical and doesnt want to go there she wants TO COME HOME…imagine that !
her whole story is changing but she still doesnt tell them the truth she just says well i am not afraid to be in the home and they arent going to harm me.
we come back with a lawyer, all our documentation and the judge again says I just dont know about this …who is this lawyer ? etc …just outlandish….and CPS is arguing with her that they want this DISMISSED….we are told to come back in 1 month and they let my stepdaughter come home. we spend a very very awful stressed christmas. she goes to all her appointments as always. Her behavior is openly defiant and she is not listening to the rules of the house and trying to smoke on our property.
My husband meets with her probation officer and judge and they are not happy about her continued defiant behavior. We draft a copy of our household rules and expected consequences for them (on the advice of CPS and our therapist) and the judge loves it. My stepdaughter signs the contract.
we go back to court on Jan 22, again with our lawyer and a new judge (thanks to our lawyer) and we are in front of the court exactly 1 min and 45 seconds. “is this to dismiss this pettion ? CPS: yes your honor Judge: this petition is dismissed. case dismissed.
CPS makes a point to threaten us that if we do ANYTHING wrong or my step daughter isnt taken to any appointments we will be back in court and they will open our case up again. Then she tells our step daughter she needs to listen to the rules of the house.
well here we are today and I am finally able to look for a new job now that I am not on any child abuser list. My side of the family refuses to have anything to do with this kid anymore because of her doing this to us. They had taken her in as their own from the mintue they met her. I have considered moving out with our son until she is 18 and out of the house but I cannot reconcile a 16 year old running me out of my own home I pay a mortgage on. My husband has had enough as well. He realizes she is not going to change.
Any words of advice for us ? Can you even believe this crap that CPS would drag us around on the words of a teenager ? can you believe this judge who wanted to try to prove we havent done enough for her ???
I don’t know if I can make it living with this person who has no conscience and will do anything to get her own way…for another 380 days until her 18th birthday. My husband is totally with me on this…she HAS to move out at 18. Our son is starting to imitate her defiance at times…..it can only get worse the older he gets.
Comment by Vanquished - sort of — January 30, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
oops I put a title where my name should have been at the bottom of my post. I posted the one by Vanquished - sort of….
thanks for any advice
Donna G
Comment by Donna G — January 30, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
Donna, I too had a troubled teenage daughter, though I’ll admit yours seems to be a lot more trouble with the lies to social workers, stealing, etc. My daughter was diagnosed Bipolar, and like yours was a cutter and very disturbing to live with because of mood swings and attitude. When she was almost seventeen she started throwing rocks at our car windshield when she got angry, and kicked the car and left a dent in it. I talked to a local deputy and he said she could go to juvenile hall or move in with a friend. She chose to move in with a friend. It was hard to let go but really, the best decision for all as she was so unhappy at home. That’s probably the poor family way to take care of outrageous teenagers. The family with more money might send the child to a bootcamp or something like that. I looked into it at one time. There were places in the remote wilderness that advertised themselves as horse ranches, things like that. There are places that will take care of out-of-control teens and provide what are hopefully character strengthening experiences for them.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — January 31, 2009 @ 7:45 am
I am here because I am scared. Period.
Back in May of 2008 I was at the hospital, after having my appendix removed. I received a phone call from my father, stating “A woman from Child Protective Services was just here and she left her number.”
Okay…. I FREAKED OUT! All I had ever heard were the horror stories of CPS…. So, I called the woman, while in pain after my surgery and was hysterical over the phone…. I asked her why on earth she was after me and flat out asked her- “Are you planning on taking my kids away?” Well, anyways….
The first question that she asked me, while trying to calm me down was, “Is there anyone mad at you right now?” Well, my answer was “Yes” Anyways, I GUESS I got lucky because she told me that she needed to meet with me on a day that all of the children would be present and asked me, “How does Tuesday at 5 sound?” I said, “Ok”….. *freaking out inside*
anyhow, flash forward to the visit… The social worker did not arrive until 7pm that evening… We had dinner cooking when she arrived…
The allegations were absurd. The anonymous caller had said that we owned a vicious dog, etc that I was on drugs, blah blah… WE HAVE NEVER HAD A DOG NOR DO I USE DRUGS… So anyways, Ifelt a wave of relief when she immediately closed the case. She said that it would take up to 90 days to close said case…
In the end it turned out right and the case was, in fact closed.
So why am I scared, you ask?
Recently, my oldest daughter, age 7 yrs. has began wetting her pants at school. The school social worker sent us a note in the mail stating, “Your daughter comes to school smelling of urine, etc” and other bullshit. Well, I had a couple of phone chats with the woman and nothing else has come of this… However, my daughter continues to wet her pants at school…. She has a doctor’s appointment coming up because we believe that she honestly does not feel the urine until it is right there POOF about to come out of her bladder….
Also, my daughter has had head lice twice this year and that freaks me out. She had never had lice before she began going to this wretched public school.
So, basically, I am scared. I have two other children- ages 5yrs old and 18 months old.
I am worried that the school is out to get us… Maybe I am paranoid, but I don’t know. I want to be prepared in case we DO have to deal with those CPS people again. Granted, they DID NOT take our children the first time that they came here… it was an immediately closed case, but I’m scared to death of what could happen this time around if they were to show up.
MY kids do not have medical coverage due to being denied medicaid and having low finances… so we are paying out of pocket for my daughter to see a pediatrician. Also, we believe in selective vaccination and so forth.
I am greatly afraid that if they do show up they may use any and all that they can to get to us… for example, the lack of insurance, which we are in the process of ONCE AGAIN attempting to get……
Please help me with any resources that you can to help us to be prepared for the worst case scenario if it were to happen…. ie Another visit from CPS.
What can we possibly do to prevent the worst case scenario, because I am pretty sure that my daughter’s school is out to get us….. and it’s quite frustrating, actually, to the point that I have considered taking her out of public school altogether. (Though, I have my worries that that would further motivate them to come after us) …
Yes, I am paranoid, but CPS is my WORST FEAR aside of death in the family, as I know that maybe we did get lucky and get a GOOD caseworker when they were called on us, but from reading all that I have read I know that that is certainly not always the case.
So any advice on helping to prepare me in case the school decides to get them involved in our lives once more….? Better safe than sorry, right….
Also, my heart goes out to each and every one of of you that was wronged by the system, though my story is overall a happy one, I do not trust those people … not ONE LITTLE BIT.
- Stef
PS- We are in Indianapolis, IN (if that helps any) and I apologize if this hypothetical scenario is completely off topic.
Comment by Stephanie — February 1, 2009 @ 7:41 am
Linda,
we would love for her to move out, BUT now she is crying to the family therapist “all I want is to work on my relationship with my parents I just want us all to get along”….well here’s a thought - maybe we could get a long better if you didn’t make false accusations about me involving police, courts, and CPS !!! grrrrr !
She is manipulating her therapist….this is a new FREE therapist that CPS referred us to, and she is nice, but too easily manipulated by this kid. We warned her that my step daughter would try this with her…(we’ve been through this before with 2 other therapists) ….so now this therapist is trying to make us feel GUILTY about wanting her to move out at 18. “she’s just a child” etc This therapist also doesnt believe that my step daughter did this intentionally. I told the therapist point blank I am at the end of the road emotionally with this kid. You don’t do something like this to someone’s life and just not even blink. My step daughter has not ONCE apologized, or even admitted what she did to me…all she will say is “I didnt mean for things to turn out this way” and I think she is not lying there….she didnt want to go to that shelter they took her to, she doesnt want to go to weekly therapy that her probation officer & judge have told her she needs to, she doesnt like that she has to listen to household rules. She then tells her friends “my parents hate me because my brother got removed from our home” …umm yes that would cause a little STRESS for us don’t you think ???
She has no remorse. She has no conscience. I know about Bipolar Disorder but I have never been told by one psychiatrist yet that persons with Bipolar disorder do not have morals or consciences…..
We cannot afford boot camp or residential treatment either right now. None of my extended family will touch her with a 100 foot pole - she’s got too much history of stuff with everyone and they are afraid they will be in my shoes if she gets displeased with their house rules. Her mother’s extended family will not take her either for the same reason. My husband’s mother is recovering from breast cancer and we would not unleash this kid on her in a million years.
We have spelled it out to her that she has 377 days until her 18th birthday and she needs to start planning. I told her no amount of family therapy will change that decision with us. We of course won’t throw her to the wolves but she cannot live with us after that time.
Thank god she hasn’t become physically violent like your daughter was starting to, but she was headed there. My step daughter likes to take the manipulative, mind game type of retalitory approach….
we are still afraid if she gets out of control and then we call the police or anyone, that WE WILL BE THE ONES LOOKED AT WITH THE EVIL EYE…not her…because of this CPS case having been opened and now shut.
She is 17 in 12 days thank the lord. If she gets in any legal trouble then with drugs, alcohol, or stealing …she’ll be treated like an adult and then have to face consequences like we’ve been trying to teach her all her life…..
Because of my being out of work when this all happened in December, (I was looking for a new job) I haven’t been earning any money because I was unable to look for employment because we were being told that our names were on some child abuser registry. If I sought employment as a nurse, and didnt tell the state I had child abuse charges on me, the state could pull my license. By starting this nightmare, this “CHILD” has caused our financial ruin for the time being. If it weren’t for my parents, we would have had our home go to foreclosure because I am the primary breadwinner ….my husband’s salary is half of mine. We have had only his income for the last 3 months and our savings are gone. Yet, my stepdaughter keeps asking us for money…..
its like beating your head on a brick wall…and we’re the only ones getting injured…she just waltzes away to her next drama of the moment.
My stepdaughter has described the whole incident/court etc as “a bunch of drama” and told the therapist “things are a lot better at home now since this whole CPS thing”…..I guess to her they seem better because we won’t say BOO to her …I refuse to get into ANY big discussions or arguements with her without a third party present. I ZIP MY LIPS. Its a pointless waste of my time anyway. Nothing is better at home for my husband and I ….we’re still bleeding inside from the wounds this has all caused. She has irrepairably damaged her relationship with both of us.
Comment by Donna G — February 2, 2009 @ 7:06 am
Stef, since you’ve taken your daughter to a doctor, write to get a copy of her medical records. And as soon as the CPS case is over, I hope you’ll try homeschooling. We cannot trust school personnel… they are trained and brainwashed to call CPS for any little thing that comes up. Homeschooling is a wonderful way of life. I homeschooled my two youngest children for nine years. They didn’t go to school until they were teenagers. If I’d been able I would have homeschooled them the rest of the way too.
Comment by LindaJoMartin — February 2, 2009 @ 8:01 am