Can they say, “I was only doing my job” … and be forgiven?

If CPS workers are ever brought to justice, and forced to go to trial for the crimes they have committed against families, will it be enough for them to say “I was only doing my job”?

It didn’t work for the Nazi’s put on trial at Nuremberg after World War II.

If caseworkers or other systemites who participated in decimating your family were put on trial, what should they be charged with?

Filed under: CPS — Linda @ 2:00 am

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Great question…ah, let me count!
1. Perjury (they lie, lie, lie, and lie some more)
2. Falsification of documents
3. Unlawful search and seizure
4. Stalking (the GAL actually hired a private investigator at taxpayers expense, to SPY on my husband who was doing absolutely NOTHING illegal)
5. Pain and suffering.
6. Emotional duress for my 3 children
I’ll probably think of some more after I’ve had some sleep. Had to work all night!

Comment by Susan — June 5, 2008 @ 5:39 am

I just thought of a BIG one in my case, which is conflict of interest. The deviant caseworker aid (no license, but a Nazi nonetheless) was/is friends with the guardians of our 3 children. She has been to their home on social visits, which I reported to the headquarters, who sent it back to this corrupt county, who found NOTHING wrong, & I was the ‘bad guy’ as usual! Susan is scum & ‘they’ are God!

Comment by Susan — June 5, 2008 @ 5:44 am

1. Perjury
2. Falsification of Documents
3. Pain and Suffering
4. Emotional Distress
5. Attempted Kidnapping
6. Civil rights violations

Comment by Lynne — June 5, 2008 @ 8:53 am

CPS, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways:
1. Defamation of character
2. Illegal search & seizure
3. Harassment
4. Perjury
5. Malfeasance
6. Obstructing justice (as if there was any justice in our case, humph)
7. Pain & suffering
8. Loss of consortium
9. Is extortion too far of a stretch? We were told that if we did not take all of their classes (6 or so, at our and taxpayers’ expense) then we would never see our children again.

Comment by Elizabeth — June 5, 2008 @ 10:22 am

Too bad we can’t get them charged with pure unmitigated evil… or gross stupidity.

Comment by Linda — June 5, 2008 @ 10:29 am

1. Kidnapping
2. Coercien
3. Contempt
4. Malpractice
5. Practicing without a license
6. Neglect
7. Child endangerment
8. Pain and Suffering
9. Loss of income
10. Harrassment
11. Perjury
12. Bribery
13. Obstruction of justice
14 Defimation of Character
14. False reporting
15. Falsifying documents
16. Illegal search & seizure
17. Tresspassing
18. Hendering investigations
19. Attempted murder
20. Murder
21. Suicide
22. Violation of constitiutional rights

Should I keep going?

Comment by Diando — June 5, 2008 @ 11:11 am

This looks like a law enforcement bonanza. Any takers?

Comment by Linda — June 5, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

LET ME TAKE THEIR FREAKIN KIDS AWAY FROM THEM FOREVER AND SAY OH BY THE WAY I WAS ONLY DOING MY JOB!!!!! THESE PEOPLE MUST DIE THE SYSTEM OF THE FING USA MUST DIE I HATE THIS FING CUNTRY HORRAY FOR THE TALIBAN AND ANY BODY ELSE THATS AGAINST THIS FD UP CUNTRY!!

Comment by SCOTT — June 5, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

Seems great minds think alike on the Nazi Germany Gestapo tactics, law without limitation and boundaries…

Actually, it is the best case scenario of the tiltes of nobilty violation of the constitution. (ART 1 sect 9) and also to the states in later, just off the top of my head, ya know.

Have read that left wing notion, but the idea of the title of nobility is its prtective immunity/limited-immunity/exemption from prosecutions for crimes against governmental crimes, see Henry VII when he used his “Royal Perogative” to defeat Parliament’s Bill of Attainder, which he himself could have issued such attainders against one could sustain.
The Supreme Court implemented the use of old customs and traditions of British rules of their law in the case Spalding vs. Vilas (1896) to subscribe “immunity” to government misconduct such as the original Kings of England has allowed their Judges and barons to do…

“No man is above the law.” Marbury vs. Madison (1803) Chief Justice John Marshal wrote.

And then again, if an officer of the government vioolate his duties to his office, he is “liable to indictment.”

If even a judge violated his oath of office to protect the constitution and the law made in pursuance thereof, he has “committed a crime.”

When Robert E. Lee’s family lost the property due to the working of the prohibited ‘corruption of blood’ (Arlington National Cemetary today), the no man …is above the law was even heightened to include even the President of the United States. See United States vs. Lee.

The Supreme Court of the United States made our government alikened to the British systems of peerage (title of nobility’s immunities from prosecution’s like France used it to exempt taxes on nobility, especiall Napolean Bonaparte)
Hope this helps…
Geno
To confer a title of nobility, is to nominate to an order of persons to whom privileges are granted at the expense of the rest of the people. It is not necessarily hereditary, and the objection to it arises more from the privileges supposed to be attached, than to the otherwise empty title or order. . . . [The purpose of the prohibition on titles of nobility in the state constitution] is to preserve the equality of citizens in respect to their public and private rights. Horst v. Moses
48 Ala. 129 (1872). Id. at 142. concerning “[N]o title of nobility, or hereditary distinction, privilege, honour, or emolument shall ever be granted or conferred in this State.” Id. at 129 (quoting Ala. Const. art. I, 32 (1867)). food for thought for equality

Comment by Geno — June 5, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

Look up 42 U S C Section 14141.

Judiciar(y/ies) use(s )Juvenile Rules of evidence/procedure to take away what the Supreme Court of the U S has labeled as our right to our kids being our most absolute protected right, but thru the system of juvenile justice, suddenly your mature rights to parenthood are reduced to a level below your own child(ren) right to you also, thus losing/diminishing your rights by D C F swearing in ther lies upon lies: ” I swear to tell the whole truth of lies and nothing but the whole truth of lies, so help me hearsay in the juvenile way”.

A pattern of practice using the juvenile justice system to violate constitutional right is to be reported to the United States Attorney General’s office to fix… under section 14141
yeah right….
Geno

Comment by Geno — June 5, 2008 @ 4:16 pm

Y’all got some awesome ideas!

Comment by Susan — June 5, 2008 @ 7:20 pm

Man, it is a tragedy that this site is even bringing Taliban supporters. You better watch out or you might just get shut down. I have heard pathetic things on here before, but this has to be the worst!

Comment by Tootsie — June 5, 2008 @ 11:31 pm

I noticed that I got deleted, so I thought I would try this again. This site is now condoning comments that are supporting the Taliban. You deleted my comment, but did not delete the ramblings of the fool above. Everyone on this site is alot of talk and no action. You run down CPS, but I never see proof of you winning! I think it is because you insist on being hateful and taking a radical approach. Go ahead and delete this comment too. As long as you, LINDA, see it, then I have made my point!

Comment by Tootsie — June 6, 2008 @ 11:19 am

Tootsie:
(1) Nobody here supports the Taliban. That’s not what this site is about. The person who commented above is expressing his outrage at having his children taken. Who can blame him for being upset? Am I supposed to tell him how he can or can’t express his rage?
(2) You didn’t get deleted. Your two comments got stuck in the spam trap - probably because your IP number is similar to some spammer who’s been here or someone who annoyed me. You don’t happen to live in the Plano Texas area do you? A while back some foster parents from that area were insulting people here so I banned their IP numbers. Stuff like that happens. If you have to wait to have your comments approved, that’s sad, but that’s life. By the way I work outside my home to support myself, and am not able to stay here 24/7 to approve comments right away.
(3) For “proof of winning” see the “Happy Endings” section of the message board.
(4) Have a nice day.

Comment by Linda — June 6, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

LOL “Tootsie” - I just checked out your IP number. Richardson Texas, right next to Plano. You must be one of the nut-case foster parents I banned. Next time I’ll leave your abusive “comments” in the spam trap.

Comment by Linda — June 6, 2008 @ 9:37 pm

toot toot tootsie, GOODBYE!

Comment by Susan — June 7, 2008 @ 9:56 am

I think its a gross indifference by the participants of this website to give CPS workers the power that they do. The workers can only do what the law allows them to within the powers of the judges of the counties they work in. The system is broken and can be rift for corruption, but to make broad general statements about the workers is ingnorant. If you all want to make a difference, laws need to be changed, power needs to be reigned in and judges need to be held accountable as well. In Kentucky they dont have a problem arresting social workers, or entertaining successful lawsuits against them by their own under whistleblower laws. The fact is a lot of parents need to have their children removed…but most don’t. If you want to meet those who do…shop in Walmart for a while and you will meet them.

Comment by Wendy — June 7, 2008 @ 12:37 pm

One BIG violation CPS does is religious persecution! As in the FLDS case. They need the snot sued out of them for that. I know for a FACT that DHS here in corrupt Fremont County, CO is ANTI CHRISTIAN! They don’t support any ‘traditional’ Christian church, only this new age, NWO crap which is never gonna work!

Comment by Susan — June 8, 2008 @ 10:40 am

Maybe Hillary can spend some time cleaning up Human Services which SAFE has been misdirected by Republican money changers.

Comment by wayne — June 9, 2008 @ 4:07 pm

Hey, did ya’ll hear about the Govenors Mansion in Texas burning? They think it was arsen..

Couldn’t have anything to do with the 400+ kids they just stole could it? LOL!

Linda your great!

By the way, on set of parents filed a restraining order against CPS…..

Comment by Diando — June 9, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

BIG WINS FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN CALIFORNIA AND NEBRASKA:

The basis of the suits ( simplified) was that CPS either through incompetence or thru utter negligence separated a daughter from her FIT DAD.

Here is a copy from Lexis of the lawsuit in Nebraska. Caseworker is LIABLE IN NEBRASKA FOR AROUND 170k.

There was a similar monetary settlement made in Calif around last year.

In a nutshell: Both state courts ruled that CPS CANNOT SEPARATE KIDS FROM FIT FAMILY MEMBERS. These were bio parents.

Here is abstract from Nebraska Supreme Court:

LIABILITY OF CHILD WELFARE WORKER

NEBRASKA: Amanda C. v. Case
The Supreme Court of Nebraska affirmed the order of the district court granting summary judgment in favor of appellee Amanda C., holding that the district court did not err in ruling that appellant, Kelly Case, an employee of the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services, was collaterally estopped from disputing the fact that she had violated Amanda’s constitutional rights and that the violation resulted in actual harm to Amanda. Amanda C.’s birth father, Gary Richmond, previously sued appellant Case in the district court under 42 U.S.C. §1983, alleging that Case engaged in the unauthorized practice of law by counseling him about the legal benefits and consequences of relinquishing his rights and ultimately persuading him to sign a relinquishment agreement, thereby depriving him of his substantive due process right of custody to his child. A jury found in his favor, awarding him damages and nullifying the relinquishment agreement. Case appealed, but dismissed the appeal after settling with Richmond. Less than a year later, Richmond filed this §1983 complaint against Case on behalf of Amanda, alleging Case interfered with Amanda’s constitutional right to a relationship with Richmond by pressuring him to relinquish his parental rights so that Amanda could be adopted by her grandparents. Amanda moved for summary judgment on the liability issue, citing the previous district court judgment against Case. The district court granted the motion and, after a bench trial on damages, awarded Richmond money damages; Case appealed. The Supreme Court of Nebraska affirmed that Richmond’s successful §1983 action against Case precluded relitigation of the wrongfulness of her decision to counsel Richmond to relinquish custody of Amanda. The Court found an identity of claims, noting parents’ fundamental constitutional rights to custody and control of their children and concluding that children have reciprocal rights to care and custody by their parents. In so ruling, the Court rejected Case’s arguments that Amanda’s substantive due process rights had not been violated because the relinquishment was in her best interests and that, in any event, her conduct did not implicate Amanda’s due process rights because of the deterioration of any parent-child relationship with Richmond prior to Case’s intervention. The Court also held that the district court did not err in finding that the wrongfully orchestrated relinquishment of Richmond’s parental rights resulted in actual harm to Amanda, as the weight of the evidence supported that finding. As an aside, the Court questioned why Case, a government actor, initially raised the defense of qualified immunity but did not pursue it.
Cite: No. S-06-1097; 2008 Neb. LEXIS 75 (Neb. Sup. Ct. May 23, 2008)
Link to Full Opinion
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Comment by Fern — June 11, 2008 @ 10:56 am

Denial of Due Process-14th Amendment.

Comment by Maggie — June 13, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

That is not up to me to Judge but I would leave it up to God. However, it is like this way “Mommy, he made me do it”. What would mom do?

Exactly. CPS Workers should be disciplined for the actions they make. They knew what they were getting into and have to pay the higher price for imposing sufferings for many, many families for many, many years.

Only God will answer to what punishment that the Workers will receive. That alone I rest assured will be taken care of some day. No Courts, and no Laws can take away the pain and sufferings that many families had endured.

Comment by Frustrated — June 19, 2008 @ 10:14 am

I was in court and they always call my boyfreind my paramour. it was brought to my attention that paramour means adulterous, so when the s.w.’s attorney reffered to my boyfriend as my paramour I asked her what it meant she said I think sinificant other, I said no it means male hor

Comment by christy — July 1, 2008 @ 1:16 am

sorry I miss spelled whore

Comment by christy — July 1, 2008 @ 1:19 am

Ok we can use the legal momble jumble, or we can band toghter and fight them. lets not weight for them to make a missteake lets catch them before they do. lets help our kids before they get in our lives!!!

Comment by AaronShinabery — July 1, 2008 @ 1:46 am

I was not asking forgiveness, I would all of us the stand tall with our heads up and say this is enought and we as the people will not put up with this any more, we have sat back as people lives were being crushed,till it happened to us, now we are here.
sitting beside them, asking our self what happend? I not here because I want to be I am here to find help for my family and to support others in need. They will listen to us if we are load enought. lets fight them, let make them reform.

Comment by Aaron — July 1, 2008 @ 10:05 am

I would never forgive them for what they did to my family. My whole life changed, I can’t sleep at night wondering where my children are. I haven’t seen them for over a year. My mother has been tryting to get custody for over a year. She has been really strong with this. I am still feeling the negativity.

Comment by Sabena — July 11, 2008 @ 12:38 am

Woah, don’t you think this is a bit much? Yes, I’m sure that there are false reports, and I’m sure that mistakes are made. I won’t deny that any system isn’t perfect. However, I’ve seen children who are, as you say in your side bar: “much-loved children away from their grieving families” who are taken from homes where they are being severely abused, one child so much so that she needed plastic surgery because of the burns her “loving” father gave her.

I’m not saying there shouldn’t or can’t be some reforms, however condemning the whole process is just as blind as saying the system is perfect. Please keep in mind that the majority of those working in these agencies do so to help families and children, which is also why family preservation is being emphasized as the way to go in today’s social welfare colleges.

Comment by Trish — July 25, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

DHS is running one big scandal and our Iowa Governor is allowing it they lie in court and these Iowa Judges has knowledge of it our judges should be proscuded this is purgery falsefied reports libel,slander,hearsay,public hatred,rumor,kidnapping,talking about CIETC scandal what about DHS scandal they are sitting on a goldmineit t is like history reeats itsels hundreds of years ago slaves sellinf our children to the highest bidder that is the truth and yet it gets printed in the DesMoines Register how DHS abuses their own children and they get to keep their job and their children I still that that article anybody wants copy of it I be gladly to send one to you also does you people know that judges and laywers take vacations togther so does county attorneys and attorney general they all take vacation togther that is why Judges don’t go against them I got the notes of of the law books.

Comment by Terri Rote — July 29, 2008 @ 1:32 pm

The person who said that we should take their children away from them I agreee with that person I can say I was doing my job also.

Comment by Terri Rote — July 29, 2008 @ 1:34 pm

I would love to find out where Mr Kevin Cannonnann lives I would go over to his house and picked in front of his house let his neighbor know what a scum he is.By the way Mr Cannonann is in the Hoover bldg 5 floor if anybody wants to pay him a visit.

Comment by Terri Rote — July 29, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

Look his address up on your county’s public records homepage. That’s a gold mine of information!

Comment by Susan — July 29, 2008 @ 4:28 pm

CPS HAS…………..
LIED ON THE STAND
TRIED TO HIDE DOCUMENTS
FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS
PUT MY KID IN FOSTER CARE………with out telling me
I WAS FORCED TO PAY SUPPORT to an abusive family
CPS GAVE UP CONFIDENTIALITY
THEY LAUGHED @ ME CONTINUOUSLY IN COURT
THEY STRIPPED ALL MY FATHERLY RIGHTS
MY DAUGHTER IS CURRENTLY IN A FOSTER HOME
I DID NOTHING WRONG

Comment by Tony K — July 29, 2008 @ 7:16 pm

To Dorthy Torres in the redwood city office of san mateo cal CPS
You said I dont trust any one. that is un true, I dont trust your office!!!!!!!!
you earn trust , and I did trust you till I found out you lied to me. there is more shelters you could have place them in.and had your office never lied about me in the first place we would not be here at this point. then you told me when I found out what happen to my son call it in that they would get a hold of you that was un true, three days passed before you did anything, My son was choked and you stopped me from having the person placed on charges, then you tried to set me up with that doctor you know if I found out that my ex was seeing I would never talk to. you almost were able to get me to play along with your game. had I gone on the 17th I would never have known that she was seen by that doctor,
that was what you were banking on.
you can fool some people some of the time but you need to get up pretty early to fool me!!!

CPS needs to be stopped , we need to all get to gether and fight them one for all, all for one we are paying them lets not be bow down to them.

Comment by AaronShinabery — July 29, 2008 @ 11:50 pm

Our Governor knows what is going on and they won’t do a thing I wish TBI would investigated them and the Judges aslo because these Judges know that DHS lies this is the biggest scandal that ever happen. the Governor should get his children taken away and see how it feels.

Comment by Terri Rote — August 14, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

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