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	<title>Comments on: North Carolina Child Collecting Foster-Adoptive Parent To Go On Trial for Murder of Four-Year-Old Child</title>
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		<title>By: Linda Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang in there, John. If CPS really thought you were a danger to your kids they would have been taken to foster homes already. You need to get an attorney right away. This is a legal matter and your family needs professional help to get CPS to back off. I unfortunately don&#039;t know of any good CPS lawyers in your state, but I suggest you find one that isn&#039;t in your county. Local lawyers often kiss up to local judges and CPS workers, and that makes them ineffective as defense attorneys. Do not try to leave; you have to walk through the fire in order to put it out. If you left town they&#039;d probably issue an interstate warrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang in there, John. If CPS really thought you were a danger to your kids they would have been taken to foster homes already. You need to get an attorney right away. This is a legal matter and your family needs professional help to get CPS to back off. I unfortunately don&#8217;t know of any good CPS lawyers in your state, but I suggest you find one that isn&#8217;t in your county. Local lawyers often kiss up to local judges and CPS workers, and that makes them ineffective as defense attorneys. Do not try to leave; you have to walk through the fire in order to put it out. If you left town they&#8217;d probably issue an interstate warrant.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also learned that they have violated our constitutional rights ( 4th and 14th Amendments), and from what I&#039;ve read on the web,it is a criminal act yet,,when I phoned the FBI,they just passed it off a a state issue due to it being CPS.The Attorney General wouldn&#039;t do anything either.Seems that the DSS (CPS) has the power to do as they please,,
You would think that the law enforcement that were with the supervisor would have known he was violating our civil/constitutional rights and would have stopped him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also learned that they have violated our constitutional rights ( 4th and 14th Amendments), and from what I&#8217;ve read on the web,it is a criminal act yet,,when I phoned the FBI,they just passed it off a a state issue due to it being CPS.The Attorney General wouldn&#8217;t do anything either.Seems that the DSS (CPS) has the power to do as they please,,<br />
You would think that the law enforcement that were with the supervisor would have known he was violating our civil/constitutional rights and would have stopped him.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our 13yr old son fell in our yard and broke his wrist,, the next day DSS showed up on our door step insisting on seeing our son or else,, said someone called in a report.We asked the lady 3 times to leave,(she had no paper work).
The next day her supervisor called my wife threatening to take all 3 of our sons from us.I came home ,,he showed up with 3 sheriffs and stated I have 3 minutes to comply with him or he is taking our sons(again,,no paperwork), to comply I needed to leave my house,,allow them to see all 3 of our sons alone  for forensics,,an advocate and their doctors,,or else.
The supervisor took my 13yr old aside to ask him what happened,,our son told him,,&quot;he fell&quot;,, the supervisor then took our 4 yr old aside and asked him,,&quot;who pushed Sean down&quot;(our 4 yr old wasn&#039;t even outside at the time.Our son and neighbors telling him what actually happened meant nothing.Now we have to allow our sons to go to their testing sites alone.We have receive not one shred of paperwork as of yet.We had no choice but to agree or lose our children that day.

Any advice or help with these vindictive people?grnberet31@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our 13yr old son fell in our yard and broke his wrist,, the next day DSS showed up on our door step insisting on seeing our son or else,, said someone called in a report.We asked the lady 3 times to leave,(she had no paper work).<br />
The next day her supervisor called my wife threatening to take all 3 of our sons from us.I came home ,,he showed up with 3 sheriffs and stated I have 3 minutes to comply with him or he is taking our sons(again,,no paperwork), to comply I needed to leave my house,,allow them to see all 3 of our sons alone  for forensics,,an advocate and their doctors,,or else.<br />
The supervisor took my 13yr old aside to ask him what happened,,our son told him,,&#8221;he fell&#8221;,, the supervisor then took our 4 yr old aside and asked him,,&#8221;who pushed Sean down&#8221;(our 4 yr old wasn&#8217;t even outside at the time.Our son and neighbors telling him what actually happened meant nothing.Now we have to allow our sons to go to their testing sites alone.We have receive not one shred of paperwork as of yet.We had no choice but to agree or lose our children that day.</p>
<p>Any advice or help with these vindictive people?grnberet31@yahoo.com</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda, I agree - use of drugs doesn&#039;t always mean a parent is neglectful. Sometimes (usually) they&#039;re still great parents. Our society has just been brainwashed against drug users of any kind, so they&#039;re easy targets for CPS. Most of the time the children are better off at home. Instead of telling the parents, &quot;Get rehab or lose your kids,&quot; they just rip the kids away, torment them in foster homes and with separation from the parents they love, and traumatize the parents. Our country is going to pay for the torture of children and families - and no, I don&#039;t know how it will pay but I see the karma building up and I know there will be a backlash on the evil-doers because that&#039;s how life works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda, I agree &#8211; use of drugs doesn&#8217;t always mean a parent is neglectful. Sometimes (usually) they&#8217;re still great parents. Our society has just been brainwashed against drug users of any kind, so they&#8217;re easy targets for CPS. Most of the time the children are better off at home. Instead of telling the parents, &#8220;Get rehab or lose your kids,&#8221; they just rip the kids away, torment them in foster homes and with separation from the parents they love, and traumatize the parents. Our country is going to pay for the torture of children and families &#8211; and no, I don&#8217;t know how it will pay but I see the karma building up and I know there will be a backlash on the evil-doers because that&#8217;s how life works.</p>
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		<title>By: brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my daughter  lost her children for neglect  the cps and foster care  neglected them.. she had troubles she took pain killer for years and she would use cocaine when she could not find pain pills she always had babysitters.. when she did that.  but she took care of them. when her children left  for family members out of cps one had 9 cavities and one could not talk they ate like animals. they said they beat them and they kids where made to by lyres. they have many mental troubles from this we don,t have money for lawyers to fight them on neglect they did to the children i think they should be made accountable for what the children are going Thur now    because what they did my grandchildren want there momma.. they cause my daughter to become bi polar..manic she was not right in drugs but she took care of her children they was cleaned and dressed nice . she took them to drs and seen to there needs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my daughter  lost her children for neglect  the cps and foster care  neglected them.. she had troubles she took pain killer for years and she would use cocaine when she could not find pain pills she always had babysitters.. when she did that.  but she took care of them. when her children left  for family members out of cps one had 9 cavities and one could not talk they ate like animals. they said they beat them and they kids where made to by lyres. they have many mental troubles from this we don,t have money for lawyers to fight them on neglect they did to the children i think they should be made accountable for what the children are going Thur now    because what they did my grandchildren want there momma.. they cause my daughter to become bi polar..manic she was not right in drugs but she took care of her children they was cleaned and dressed nice . she took them to drs and seen to there needs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband has two boys ages 8 and 5 from a previous marriage. We have tried to do everything without getting the courts involved and now that is biting us in the butt. His ex filed a claim of abuse on him about 9 months ago because he spanked his 5 yr old and left a red handprint on his bottom. Not a bruise. And it was gone in a day. The CPS worker came out to our home and we allowed her to come into our home and see our daughter and talked with her about the spanking. My husband admitted that he may have spanked a little bit too hard that time and agreed that it wasn&#039;t something that he should have done. We do spank our kids because we believe in spare the rod and spoil the child. I had spankings when I was a kid and honestly I feel that was the most effective punishment. We do not beat our children and we only use our open palms to spank the children. A couple weeks ago I had to discipline the 5 yr old because the boys were in my care while their father was at work. I popped him on his butt and he whined for a second and that was it. The next day my husband gave him and his other boy a bath and there were no marks on his bottom. We look for marks because the boys have told us of their mother spanking them with a belt and we are concerned for their safety with her. A few days later the boys had been returned to their mother for a day and a half and CPS is knocking on our door. The worker showed us a photo of a mark on the 5 yr old&#039;s bottom. It was a red mark. About an inch to two inches long. No idea what or where it came from. But when the 5 yr old was questioned by his mother he said that I had spanked him that weekend. I know that I did not leave any marks on my stepson. Scratch that. MY SON!! He and his brother are my life just as much as my own daughter. The CPS worker evaluated our home again and said that it was safe. A couple days later my husband got a call from his ex wife asking for him to meet with her and the social worker alone on Tuesday. I am so worried because my husband is so easily manipulated and I don&#039;t want him to do anything that could hurt his relationship with his kids. I called the social worker and asked if I was needed and she made it a point that I was not invited. Not that I wasn&#039;t needed. That I was not wanted there. I asked her what it was concerning and she said that she was going to have my husband sign a &quot;No Spanking Pact&quot; agreeing not to spank either of the boys. I am not sure what will happen if he refuses to sign it but isn&#039;t it a violation of his constitutional rights. They have nothing to charge him with and the worker herself said that if this went to court it would be thrown out. Should he sign it and just let it go? Or should he refuse to sign it? I really need help with this. And anyone who knows what we should do in this situation feel free to email me at carrie.hamann[@]yahoo.com Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband has two boys ages 8 and 5 from a previous marriage. We have tried to do everything without getting the courts involved and now that is biting us in the butt. His ex filed a claim of abuse on him about 9 months ago because he spanked his 5 yr old and left a red handprint on his bottom. Not a bruise. And it was gone in a day. The CPS worker came out to our home and we allowed her to come into our home and see our daughter and talked with her about the spanking. My husband admitted that he may have spanked a little bit too hard that time and agreed that it wasn&#8217;t something that he should have done. We do spank our kids because we believe in spare the rod and spoil the child. I had spankings when I was a kid and honestly I feel that was the most effective punishment. We do not beat our children and we only use our open palms to spank the children. A couple weeks ago I had to discipline the 5 yr old because the boys were in my care while their father was at work. I popped him on his butt and he whined for a second and that was it. The next day my husband gave him and his other boy a bath and there were no marks on his bottom. We look for marks because the boys have told us of their mother spanking them with a belt and we are concerned for their safety with her. A few days later the boys had been returned to their mother for a day and a half and CPS is knocking on our door. The worker showed us a photo of a mark on the 5 yr old&#8217;s bottom. It was a red mark. About an inch to two inches long. No idea what or where it came from. But when the 5 yr old was questioned by his mother he said that I had spanked him that weekend. I know that I did not leave any marks on my stepson. Scratch that. MY SON!! He and his brother are my life just as much as my own daughter. The CPS worker evaluated our home again and said that it was safe. A couple days later my husband got a call from his ex wife asking for him to meet with her and the social worker alone on Tuesday. I am so worried because my husband is so easily manipulated and I don&#8217;t want him to do anything that could hurt his relationship with his kids. I called the social worker and asked if I was needed and she made it a point that I was not invited. Not that I wasn&#8217;t needed. That I was not wanted there. I asked her what it was concerning and she said that she was going to have my husband sign a &#8220;No Spanking Pact&#8221; agreeing not to spank either of the boys. I am not sure what will happen if he refuses to sign it but isn&#8217;t it a violation of his constitutional rights. They have nothing to charge him with and the worker herself said that if this went to court it would be thrown out. Should he sign it and just let it go? Or should he refuse to sign it? I really need help with this. And anyone who knows what we should do in this situation feel free to email me at carrie.hamann[@]yahoo.com Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IM IN MY SECOND GO AROUND WITH DSS,AND FAMILY COURT,MY FIRST WAS A DIVORCE,WHICH MY EX LIED TO TRY AND WIN,IT TOOK 3 YEARS AND THOUSANDS TO SEE MY KIDS AGAIN,

I NOW HAVE JOINT CUSTODY,BUT IT STRAINED MY ONCE CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH MY KIDS,NOW MY GIRLFRIEND AND I HAVE TWO KIDS,BUT 4 YEARS AGO SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HAD AN OUTSTANDING ARREST WARRANT,SHE GAVE BIRTH IN JAIL,AND SHE GAVE HER COUSIN TEMP.CUSTODY,WHEN RELEASSED THEY WOULDNT GIVE HIM BACK,AND MADE FALSE ACCUSATIONS TO DSS,THE CASE WAS UNFOUNDED BUT STILL THEY KEEP OUR SON,AND FAMILY COURT ONLY HEARS THERE SIDE,

WE HAVE EVEN PROVEN THEY LIED,AND COMMITED SEVERAL CRIMES,BUT THE JUDGE DONT CARE,AND HAS HAD ME ARRESTED TWICE FOR JUST SIMPLY STATING THE FACTS ON MY SPACE BLOGS!!! 

IM NOW FACING 30 YEARS,OUT ON 30,000 BAIL,HAVE SPENT ABOUT 30,000 ON LAWYERS,AND COURT PROCEDINGS,AND THERE IS NO RELIEF INSIGHT,WE WERE GIVEN 2 HOURS VISITATION ON SATURDAYS AT THE LOCAL MCDONALDS,BUT CANNOT GO BECAUSE OF THEY MADE HER COUSIN AS SUPERVISOR,AND THEY WILL CONTI NUE TO LIE,AND MAKE FALSE CHARGES,AND NOW WHEN WE TELL THE JUDGE ,HE SEES IT AS WE DONT WANT TO SEE OUR SON,THIS IS REDICULOUS!!!

WE LIVE IN SC. IT IS THE MOST CORRUPT STATE IVE EVER SEEN,THERE ISNT EVEN A LISTING FOR SOUTH CAROLINA ON THIS SITE WHY???? CAN ANYONE HELP ME,I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO,AND MY SON IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD,I HAVE ONLY SEEN HIM MAYBE ,100 HOURS OF HIS LIFE!!!!

WHAT CAN I DO???????........L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IM IN MY SECOND GO AROUND WITH DSS,AND FAMILY COURT,MY FIRST WAS A DIVORCE,WHICH MY EX LIED TO TRY AND WIN,IT TOOK 3 YEARS AND THOUSANDS TO SEE MY KIDS AGAIN,</p>
<p>I NOW HAVE JOINT CUSTODY,BUT IT STRAINED MY ONCE CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH MY KIDS,NOW MY GIRLFRIEND AND I HAVE TWO KIDS,BUT 4 YEARS AGO SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HAD AN OUTSTANDING ARREST WARRANT,SHE GAVE BIRTH IN JAIL,AND SHE GAVE HER COUSIN TEMP.CUSTODY,WHEN RELEASSED THEY WOULDNT GIVE HIM BACK,AND MADE FALSE ACCUSATIONS TO DSS,THE CASE WAS UNFOUNDED BUT STILL THEY KEEP OUR SON,AND FAMILY COURT ONLY HEARS THERE SIDE,</p>
<p>WE HAVE EVEN PROVEN THEY LIED,AND COMMITED SEVERAL CRIMES,BUT THE JUDGE DONT CARE,AND HAS HAD ME ARRESTED TWICE FOR JUST SIMPLY STATING THE FACTS ON MY SPACE BLOGS!!! </p>
<p>IM NOW FACING 30 YEARS,OUT ON 30,000 BAIL,HAVE SPENT ABOUT 30,000 ON LAWYERS,AND COURT PROCEDINGS,AND THERE IS NO RELIEF INSIGHT,WE WERE GIVEN 2 HOURS VISITATION ON SATURDAYS AT THE LOCAL MCDONALDS,BUT CANNOT GO BECAUSE OF THEY MADE HER COUSIN AS SUPERVISOR,AND THEY WILL CONTI NUE TO LIE,AND MAKE FALSE CHARGES,AND NOW WHEN WE TELL THE JUDGE ,HE SEES IT AS WE DONT WANT TO SEE OUR SON,THIS IS REDICULOUS!!!</p>
<p>WE LIVE IN SC. IT IS THE MOST CORRUPT STATE IVE EVER SEEN,THERE ISNT EVEN A LISTING FOR SOUTH CAROLINA ON THIS SITE WHY???? CAN ANYONE HELP ME,I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO,AND MY SON IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD,I HAVE ONLY SEEN HIM MAYBE ,100 HOURS OF HIS LIFE!!!!</p>
<p>WHAT CAN I DO???????&#8230;&#8230;..L.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne Ezell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne Ezell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY daughter and my son was taken because I do not have a car and i do not have a lot of money.Get this my parental rights were taken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY daughter and my son was taken because I do not have a car and i do not have a lot of money.Get this my parental rights were taken</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-God,
  My grand-daughter is in the hand of marting county DDS. It is just a joke. Its like a puppy mill. This is not a large town and at least one child is taken every Friday night.  They have just taken my best friends grand-daughter after she broke up with her husband. She had 4 wisdom teeth removed and was taking pain medicine. He caused DS and said that she was addicted to it.  This is just outrageous. I cannot believe what they get away with. The have my granddaughtere, the excuse, I kept her on a bottle too long, a water bottle.  It was her security thing after her mother deserted her and I did not have the heart to take it away from her, we were working on it when she was taken. These people are totally NUTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-God,<br />
  My grand-daughter is in the hand of marting county DDS. It is just a joke. Its like a puppy mill. This is not a large town and at least one child is taken every Friday night.  They have just taken my best friends grand-daughter after she broke up with her husband. She had 4 wisdom teeth removed and was taking pain medicine. He caused DS and said that she was addicted to it.  This is just outrageous. I cannot believe what they get away with. The have my granddaughtere, the excuse, I kept her on a bottle too long, a water bottle.  It was her security thing after her mother deserted her and I did not have the heart to take it away from her, we were working on it when she was taken. These people are totally NUTS.</p>
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		<title>By: toes</title>
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		<dc:creator>toes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an update, Lynn Paddock was found guilty of first-degree murder  in the death of 4 year old Sean.  She was sentenced to life in prison.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theherald-nc.com/160/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paddock trial,&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an update, Lynn Paddock was found guilty of first-degree murder  in the death of 4 year old Sean.  She was sentenced to life in prison.<br />
<a href="http://www.theherald-nc.com/160/index.html">Paddock trial,</a></p>
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