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Child Protective Services, CPS, has devastated and destroyed hundreds of thousands of families in America during the last thirty years leaving a trail of broken hearts, broken dreams, and shattered childhoods.
Rather than helping families, government agents have used unconstitutional laws in Juvenile Court to rip children away from their loving parents, break asunder God-given, natural, parent-child bonds, and adopt the children of the grieving out to others who profit financially with large monthly adoption subsidy payments.
Child Protective Services must be stopped! The law that started this, CAPTA, must be repealed. We must work tirelessly to inform the public of this very dangerous travesty of justice. We must keep faith knowing that if there is a God, there is an answer and a way to end this heartache.
Child Protective Services Agents - please come to your senses! Family destruction on false or trivial grounds is wrong, reprehensible, and inhumane.
Fosterers - be aware that for the money you get you are holding much-loved children away from their grieving families while the parents are forced to perform a service plan that is anything but a service to them. I call this hostage holding for the government. This is not kindness - to help misguided government agents destroy family relationships and break loving bonds.
CPS workers and fosterers - I ask that you now let the children of the innocent return to their homes where they are truly valued, adored, and loved by the parents God gave them.
Family rights are God-given rights. And they should not be ignored or postponed. Every moment these loving parents and children spend separated from one another is a torment beyond what anyone should ever have to bear.
It is unworthy of human dignity to allow this terrorism and torture of families to go on without saying something, speaking out, and trying to make a change.
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Good help for folks in some 11 states provided by:
http://www.profane-justice.org
Take a look under Advocates. From AK, AZ, CT, to WI and others.
Illinois residents: Meet with this group
http://www.familydefensecenter.net
Attorney-led. They are litigating a long-running lawsuit which can have implications FOR ALL, since it will tame CPS nationwide. If the USSC accepts for cert. ( certatiori)
Washington families have a site called
Washingtonfamiliesunited. Think it is a Yahoogroups list.
Indiana residents have:
http://www.honkforkids.org
Georgia have
Georgiafamilyrights They are hosted by Tripod, so I am not sending an exact link.
Head of this group is Dorothy. She has been helping families w DFACS iussues for years.
There are many groups extant. California has:
http://www.theacf.org
My only objective is to connect good parents who have been predated upon by CPS in their state.
Folks, you must indicate your state so folks can hook up with you.
Send in a false name. But give your state.
Also, additional help is available here by joining the Message Boards. You do have to register.
Linda has volunteered this wonderful site for years. Blessings to her.
Thanks, Linda. Many children and family owe a debt of gratitude to you.
Comment by Fern — May 1, 2008 @ 11:12 am
The following is a letter I wrote in 2006 to the Tucson Medical Center Hospital in response to a “How’d We Do?” survey. As you can see, I had a ‘run-in’ with a creepy social worker. I can assure you that it pays to keep your cool under stress and remain calm and most importantly, know EXACTLY who you’re dealing with. Never have a ‘casual conversation’ with social workers.
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My Experiences With the TMC Pediatric Ward
To Whom It May Concern:
My 14 month old daughter, Natalie, had suffered from diarrhea for four days in late March, 2006. The diarrhea ended, but then she began vomiting everything she ate and drank. By Sunday morning (April 2, 2006, I believe), I had to take her to the St. Joseph’s emergency room, because by then she was crying a lot, could not sleep and still could not drink, or eat. While there, she was given 750 ml of intravenous fluids in a 6 hr. period. The previous day, we had been very concerned about the possibility of her becoming dehydrated, but her pediatrician’s office did not have quite the same level of concern that we had. The nurses and doctors at St. Joseph’s doted over her and were very sympathetic. She was transferred and admitted to Tucson Medical Center, because St. Joseph’s does not have a pediatric ward.
The doctors and nurses met us when we arrived. Everyone was helpful and courteous. By this time, however, Natalie had ‘had enough’ and was loudly crying non-stop. The steel bar crib in her room was less than inviting. By that time, however, I don’t believe it would have mattered to her. She was too upset. She was miserable and wanted to go home. Her crying continued and she did not settle down at all that night. All attempts on my part to comfort her failed completely. I’m sorry to say that, while the doctors at TMC were wonderful and very empathetic, not all of the nursing staff had the same attitude. All of the nurses were technically skilled (very much so), but Natalie’s nurse (I believe her name was Stacey) struck me as being……..well………’quietly annoyed’ at Natalie’s non-stop loud crying. Perhaps, instead, she was annoyed at me for not being able to quiet her. It’s not that she was mean, or abusive, or anything, it’s just that it was plainly obvious that she had no children of her own. I don’t know what kind of behavior she expected of a 14 month old toddler who is away from home with an uncomfortable intravenous needle stuck in her restrained arm. At one point that night, I tried leaving the room for 10 minutes to see if it would help. I suspected that Natalie was especially upset about the fact that the one person she knew (me) wouldn’t take her home. I had hoped that with me out of the room, she would resign herself to the fact that she was there and that she’d settle down and maybe even slip into a deep sleep from shear exhaustion. That idea failed and when I returned to her room, I found her door closed and the TV in her room blaring. Someone had turned the TV volume up to the maximum setting in order to drown out her continuous crying. At least that’s what I concluded. Natalie finally got a little bit of sleep that night, when I tried cuddling her against my chest while sitting upright in a chair. I, on the other hand, got none.
The next day at around 1:00 PM, I decided to head home for a couple hours of rest (I had only gotten a grand total of about four hours sleep in the previous two days). Natalie was being taken for tests and she would be out of the room for a while, anyway. As the staff came to take her, a woman wearing street clothes also came in the room. She identified herself as a social worker and said, “The nurses said that Natalie was crying so much they thought that I should find out what’s going on with that family.†Being utterly exhausted at the time, I really didn’t appreciate being questioned by a complete stranger who wanted to know why my 14 month old daughter hated being in the hospital. She listened with a cynical smirk on her face as I forced myself to be polite and explained why Natalie was so upset. I have no doubt that she had one hand on her cell phone’s speed-dialer ready to call Child Protective Services if any of my answers didn’t meet with her approval. After I explained what would be obvious to anyone but her, she stated flatly that it was unusual for a toddler to cry so much in the hospital. She did, however, seem to back off and then left the room. I’m sorry, but I do not believe that the nurses sicced the social worker on me out of genuine concern for Natalie. Instead, I suspect that someone was getting back at me for not being able to quiet Natalie down the night before. When Natalie was discharged a couple of days later, I mentioned to a very empathetic Dr. Gillespie that Natalie cried all of the time she was there, unless I held her. He wasn’t surprised at all by that (contradicting what social worker had insisted). He went on to tell me that ‘half the kids really hate being there’.
The doctors at TMC were wonderful. Most of the nurses at the TMC Pediatric Ward were terrific. I am sad to say, however, that the lasting memories I’m stuck with, is that of the one annoyed nurse and the creepy social worker.
Sincerely,
Steven W. Langstroth
Comment by Steve Langstroth — May 1, 2008 @ 11:23 am
I am involved in an open case, the cps are trying to take my children away from me because my daughter had a bacterial infection and when they interviewed her she said i poked her with my finger. didnt say where or why, just that i poked her. she is 3. i took care of her and her 1 year old brother ( at time was 6 months), from 6 pm till bedtime. i cooked, cleaned, bathed, wiped, and did laundry, while mother was at work until 12 or 1 am. we have medical documents of the bacterial infection from another city we had just moved from. i was arrested ( though charges are dropped), forbode from having any contact with anyone. Now they wont even admit thier mistake, just try to cover it up by moving forward. my wife, tells me that they tell my daughter that i was a bad dad, that i did horrable things to her, and that i broke her down there. she also tells me that about 3 weeks after arrest ( i was still in jail) the cps took her to a doctor in naples, tx. the doctor diagnosed her with, surprise, surprise, a bacterial infection. the case worker at the last hearing boldly lied to the judge and told him they never took her to the doctor (which in some aspect is true because they didnt take her when she was interviewed). then procceded to lie some more and tell him i had only submitted to one drug screen( pee and hair test), though she knew i had taken two, and that it came back diluted. HOW DO YOU DILUTE A HAIR TEST? may 15 is my next court date and im hoping that i can get some kind of contact with my children. these people are truly corrupt. some one has to do something, i can only imagin how many other peoples lives they have destroyed for no good reasons. I will fight them till the day i die, i will do anything to shape up this organization.
Comment by Joel Albert — May 1, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
Our toll free line is 1 866-397-0705
Honkforkids@att.net
Comment by honkforkids — May 2, 2008 @ 2:23 am
who in the hell do you get to help fight these people? ive been fighting for my grandchildren for 2 1/2 years now . everything was fine untill i decided to move into a new town.now wait let me give you a little background here.i lived in Martinsburg wv. bad state if you are here get the hell out if you want to keep your children!any way the adoption was set for may 2 of this year, now mind you the girls have been with me for 2 1/2 years.the only reason for that was dhhr hasnt done all the home studies that need to be done before you can adopt. i have had 4 home finders on this case the last being rachael snider.Whom you cant get to answer her phone let alone call any one back.i have tried to reach this person for two weeks everyday with no response. so i called diane snell the adoption worker to let her know i was BUYING a house in bluefield wv even gave this woman the address. was told their wouldnt be a problem as long as i stayed in west virgina.and she knew where to find the girls,and when i was leaving. fine i gave her the address of the new house and told her i would be leaving the 5th of april. which i did. well guess what? there was a problem! or should i say is a problem within three days diane snell showed up here and took the girls. they claim i didnt let them know i was moving, i didnt allow rachael snider to do her home inspections, and i didnt have a job. i have a witness to the phone calls made to them about this move,and as far as rachael snider goes how can you speak to someone who doesnt return phone calls or at least answer her phone, and the job thing i own my own business. besides i lost my job in martinsburg in december of 07. that wasnt a problem when i was in martinsburg but all of a sudden its a problem now! go figure that one? I am now holding a new job besides the home business. i have a court date in july,but im not allowed to see the girls untill the judge says i can, you would think i hurt these girls in some way. all i did was move them to a new town that was cheaper to live. we dont even know if the girls are together they are 2 and 3 years of age.i was told all i could do at this time is file a grivance letter which i have done only it goes to the supervisors in the same department as these workers now how much of a chance do you think i have that this will be over turned? none! so you tell me how do you fight these fucking people?i cant aford to hire an attorney. they have made damn sure ive spent my entire savings fighting for them all ready. especilly now since i have went out and bought these girls a home.that no one could take away from them well i thought wrong dhhr prove that to be true they took their home away from them for no reason except i move the girls and they now have to do more paper work. which that havent done since this has all started. so where do i go now? if anyone has some answers for me please contact me at sassiedana@yahoo.com any and all help will be apporiated. for those of you who have the same battle let me know if there is anything i can do to help you ill be right there doing what ever i can to help! may god be with us all in our battles for our CHILDREN !!!!!! comment made by dana logan at sassiedana@yahoo.com
Comment by dana logan — May 3, 2008 @ 5:45 am
From: lisa
Date: 05 May 2008, 10:37 AM
—————– Bulletin Message —————–From: traceyDate: Apr 25, 2008 5:20 PMTHIS ISN’T A HOAX!!!! WHAT THIS IS, IS A TRUE STORY THAT NEEDS YOUR ATTENTION!!Please Copy and Past all of this message!!..
....This is Dakota and Saphire Logan. These two girls need you help. They are in state custody in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Dakota was 6 months old and Saphire was 2 days old when they were ripped away from their parents.The parents, after fighting the state for 9 months, decided to ask for help. Grandma stepped in. Grandma was given both girls in September of 2005 withough child support from the state. She went through six background cehcks, fingerprtints, Physicals, home inspections, foster parenting classes, job refrences, the apartment had to have all furniture before the children could come to live with her. Grandma has been back and forth to court for 2 1/2 years. The state has been playing lost of games, losing paperwork, waiting 6-8 months at a time to do a home inspection. They are just plain out not doing their job. The state keeps dragging their feet. Grandma has been having a hard time since Christmas of 2007. She lost her job 2 weeks before christmas. But she always seemed to be able to take care of us two girls. Bills were paid and we had food to eat. Even had christmas presnets under the tree. In March, Grandma got the adoption papers. We were finally going to be hers. We were finally going to have a permanet family that we could call our own. The adoption was set for May 2nd, 2008. With this in mind, Grandma started looking for a place to live for us two girls. A place that we could call home. A place for us to grow up in. Martinsburg was just to big; she wanted us to be raised in a hometown kind of place. Somewhere with amazing schools. She made all the calls that she needed to make to see if we could move. She was told there wasn’t a problem, we could go where ever we wanted as long as we stayed in West Virginia. The state only wanted to know where we would be going. So with the ok, Grandma found a house in Bluefield West Virginia. She found a great big house that sits on the side of a mountain. We have our own room! Theres a big front porch so we have a place to ride our bikes, and we have a huge yard to run in. We were having a lot of fun in our new house. We got to stay there for a whole 3 days. One day, this lady pulled up with the police and told our Aunt Kristle they were taking us away. They put on our shoes and our coats. Put us in a car and they drove away. We didn’t even get to say good-bye.The state claims I (as the grandmother) didn’t call anyone to let them know where I was moving (phone call made and I spoke to caseworker Diane Snell) She was given the address. She claims she found us because I enrolled the children in school. They were enrolled in school on the 8th of April, and were taken on the 9th. She also decided to add the fact that I’m not working. I lost my job in December of 2007. (That wasn’t a problem to them when I was living Martingburg) I haven’t been in Bluefield long enough to find a job YET. But I still have plenty of money in savings to handle my bills, and care for these two children untill I find a job.The whole reason for this story if because these girls, along with myself, need your help. I wanted the girls’ story heard. These children were removed from their home for unfounded reasons. They have not been in anyway abused. They were happy go lucky. Dakota was finally feeling safe and started talking, which she didn’t for almost 1 1/2 years. They have been in my home for 2 years now. The only abuse they have had to endure is being ripped from their home again. Why? Because I found and bought a home for them some place other than martinsburg?Our Government officials need to see first hand how thier government funded offices are handling their money. They need to know what their government funded offices are doing to our american families, and how they are tearing us apart for no aparent reason. I need you to sign this letter with any comments you’d like to express.Send it on to all of your friends. I’m shooting for at least 5000 signatures. Whoever is the 1000,2000,3000,4000,and the 5000th person to sign this please email it to me at sassiedana@yahoo.com Its very important that this gets emailed back to me so that I can make sure it gets to our Government officials. Please help bring these girls back home!! We need them just as much as they need us!!Thank you for all your help, Dana Logan*click reply to poster, then copy the entire bulletin so that you get the slideshow in there as well. Then go back to your bulletins, paste, and then send* Thank you for your help!!!1. Kristle Logan- These two girls are my whole entire world. I live and breath for these babies. They have put hope and happiness back into my life. They give me something to live for. There is no sunlight in my life, without them by myside. Please help us bring them back home!!2. Dana Logan3. Saphire Gail Logan- Please help, I want to go home where I belong. I’m lost without my family. The only thing they have done since the begining of this whole thing was love my sister and I. Please help bring us home!!4.Dakota Logan- I want to go home where I belong. These people may not be my biological family, but they have taken me in from day one and claimed me as one of their own. Every child out there that doesn’t have a family wishes they could have that. Why would someone want to take that away from me? I’m not a bad kid. I haven’t done anything wrong! Why are they punishing me and my sister? Why are they punishing any of us? We have done absolutely nothing wrong. The only thing that we have done was loved each other and been there for one another. Please help me bring my family back together and repost this bulletin! 5.tracey manzer6.ashley manzer
Comment by dana logan — May 5, 2008 @ 11:46 am
I need help and all I’m hitting is walls.My son was taken from me last monday night, like a fool i let the police in, a neighbor had made a false 911 call saying our son was screaming. Our old house has been condemned,we’ve been arrested (criminal mistreatment 4th degree)
The CPS has been great, she helped money wise and we’re moving into a new house tomorrow
Heres our problem, CPS says we can have our son back as soon as we’re moved into the new house, the judge though put this court order that we can’t even be around kids 16 or under unless theres another adult around, We have gotten letters about how we treated or son, from friends, from doctors and family.
But it doesn’t even sound like they’re going to move the court date up sooner, as it is we’ve got another month until the next court date
We live in western WA
Comment by Tori — May 6, 2008 @ 7:06 pm
Tori-
You fail to see what is really happening with CPS. “They have been great”. NO! They are showing the judge that without their care of you and the son, you cannot parent responsibly on your own.
This practice seems to be the norm when they are trying to keep your child. They come off helpful, but really they are putting all the building blocks together to build a firm case against you later.
Been there, done that. Over 16 months later, and many regrets falling for this CPS help, we finally have the grandkids home with us, but NOT their parents who used to live in a near condemned home.
I just hope you have family willing to jump in and raise the son.
Please-please-please…think twice as before you agree to anything other than what you have already done; taken money.
Comment by Cheryl — May 7, 2008 @ 8:08 am
I have a daycare. Last year a parent called and lied about my daycare. The case was unfounded. They hold it for a year and close it if no new information is given. It would have been a year this Apr.
Then zoning shows up claiming a neighbor reported me for having too many children in my daycare. (more than allowed by the city) This was not the case and I let zoning come in and count the (2) children in my care. (I am allowed 5). Zoning felt I would have more problems from this person. Anyhow I don’t care about the zoning issue, I was and I am always in complaince. However this parent lied to CPS about my child last year. They (CPS) went to her school. This scared her. She is affraid someone will take her from her mommy and daddy. At this point I don’t know if she called CPS or anyone else besides zoning. However if she did, she would have to have lied. (again) Can I call CPS on her for emoitional abuse on my child?
Comment by fran — May 7, 2008 @ 9:30 am
Fran, it is absolutely not a good idea to call CPS to report someone else’s emotional abuse of your child. Calling CPS is like opening a can of worms. And to say your child is being emotionally abused by anyone will turn the CPS worker on YOU. They could say you are an incompetent parent because you aren’t protecting your child from the emotional abuse. Plus, they cannot do anything to your neighbor. They can only take children out of their family homes and put the parents through years of trauma and turmoil. So whatever you do about the neighbor, calling CPS is the worst idea ever. They don’t “help”. The laws aren’t set up that way.
As to what you can do about your neighbor - if you can PROVE that your neighbor is responsible for harassment calls, you can take this to court. But without proof you’re just looking for more problems for yourself.
Good luck dealing with these thugs. Probably the best thing to do is to document the things that have gone on and their nuisance calls, and then just ignore them, stay away from them, and not talk to them. Maybe they’ll give up and find another hobby.
Comment by Linda — May 7, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
How do I sign on to post a “Headline” not just a response to someone else’s comment or blog?? Thank you.
Comment by Vera Dubchek — May 7, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
every county in this country needs an attorney with the balls to take on cps and drag every single one of these child stealing-family distroying pigs thru the mud & crap & humiliation that these creepy pigs put families through—a majority of public defenders are tight with cps and are just as worthless as the cps pigs are! if you can afford to pay for an attorney-make sure that they have very big balls!(public defenders don’t).
Comment by janet — May 7, 2008 @ 7:30 pm
Bill of Rights for Foster Children
Ratified in Congress Hall, Philadelphia Saturday, the Twenty-eighth of April, Nineteen hundred and seventy three
Comment by angela hawk — May 7, 2008 @ 8:08 pm
were can us people turn to and go to to get our kids back home were they should be whos higher then cps there a lot of people not just me my family crying for help to get there kids home someone please help tell me were to turn to thank you paula
Comment by paula — May 7, 2008 @ 8:22 pm
well I lost my son because i was growing marijuana in the house. I do not believe that it is a drug… it is a herb.. it grows next to garlic, basil, thyme, and any other herb….
there were no narcotics in the house, no pills no nothing but a plant that grows from a seed… not manufactured out of chemicals.
And my marijuana was grown organicly.
i live in the great state of texas where it is child endangerment to have your child around the herb marijuana…
What i dont understand is how 3 states over in California i can walk with my hand holding my childs hand and by it from a vending machine and not endangering my child…
Or in Alaska or in Oregean or any of the other 10 states where it is legal.
You can make rope, clothes, furniture out of it.
You can make fuel/bio diesel out of it.
It helps the sick to feal better, helps the sick to eat when they cant eat…
It calms anxiety in some…
Do I need to go on????
I have no prior offenses, i work, pay my taxes…. after they take 30% of my money all year…. lol
Anywho i do not feal ashamed for doing this, i was feeding my son, paying my bills, my son at the age of 3 was jumping his bike as i race bmx professionly, i am also a DJ and at 4 he as the skill to scratch.. And
back at the age of 3 he was swimming without floaties….
And i was home schooling him as well…
i have passed my hair test and my 2nd drug test in the last month.. i get to see my son for the first time in over a month because i have called CPS and screamed and yelled and filled up voice mail boxes…
they know im a good parent by the behavior of my son….
I also have letters from concerned parents telling how i am a good parent…
anyway i have learned that they (CPS) thinks they just know what is best…
shoot in my first family assessment meeting i asked where my son was and for an hour they did not even have the phone number.. they had wrong numbers…
the meeting was held in the up most disrespecting manner….
Also by people that do not even have children….
How can you run an organization by people saying there for the children that dont even have children???
I was not growing the herb for money, i was growing it to make a point….
A moral point and which i have done….
i will not bow down to CPS ever..
they may be able to keep my son physically from me until whenever…
but they can never ever break the love the bond that we have for one another!!!
And my child did not cry, did not scream when they took me….
cause he knew to be strong and he was….
And ive heard he is one of the best behaved children they have en-counterd….
BECAUSE I AM A GOOD DAD!!!
JEEZ GET THE NET!!!!
i dont do narcotics, or pills or downers or anything prescribed….
i jump 25 foot jumps on my bmx bike at the age of 39 because i am healthy and in shape not because im cracked out…
my god!!!!
Anyways I just wanted to get this out to maybe someone that will actually listen!!
i have since started a new business and it is very lucrative!!!
i will fight to the death to get my son back and passing drug test will be a JOKE!!!
cause im not a drug addict….
i just use the herb along with all the other herbs in my cabinet…
I also eat an all organic diet, i do not eat fast food or eat out very often…
i cook at home and also take care of 4 dogs and my sister kids…..
i have a bmx track in my backyard and teach kids to jump!!!
O and one more thing my son was doing front flips on the trampoline at age 3~~
because i was cracked out rite???
lets see what the foster parents can teach him??
Comment by Charles Anthony — May 7, 2008 @ 9:31 pm
Charles you are a fool. You made your moral point. You won’t bow down to CPS and continue to grow pot. You have put pot and your point over your child. So sad. You are just making it easy for them. Is pot really worth it?
Comment by Missy — May 8, 2008 @ 4:22 am
Dear Charles
I am sorry this has happen to you and your son. But as far as the law is concerned you can’t grow “pot”. It can only be grown by the goverment for medically use, and I am sure you already know that. I won’t give my opinon on the subject any further because it is not a popular opinon. However I know how CPS works. My child attends a catholic school. (my choice) when I was reported to CPS this was part of their investagation. Although it’s not the same because it is legal to place your child in a non public school envorinment. CPS told me that if I signed a form agreeing to remove her from that school and place her in either a baptist of public school, they would drop their investagation. I refused. knew CPS was lying. But I felt like by agreeing to their terms, I would be “selling my soul to the devil” Now I am not overly relgious, so that was not the issue.
However I feel in your case you need to get rid of the pot, merely because it’s illegal, and it’s not helping you case. I am a child from the 70’s and I understand your point, but it’s 2008 and it’s now a issue between your child and your convictions and this conviction is illegal. Therefore no matter how you try to explain it you can not win this point. Please understand I am not comdeming you for your convictions, merely pointing out, that you may have to re-think what is more inportant. Your opinon, or convictions, or your child?
Comment by fran — May 8, 2008 @ 5:39 am
Missy: Is it so much to have the government have this much sway over things? Marijuana isn’t this big and nasty thing they made it out to be. Unfortunately for Charles, even if he DID get rid of the pot, CPS would still keep his kids.
What you don’t get is that right/wrong doesn’t matter. Once they have ANY pretext for snatching the children they will- and it’s unholy hell trying to get them to back down, even when they’re wrong. Moreover, they go looking for making all sorts of untenable positions.
In the end, we’ve sold out our soul to a bunch of people that plain flat-out are crazy beyond words (So far, I’ve seen at least three instances of a caseworker, if they were to submit to a psych eval, be diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. (Look it up…).) and have no business being anywhere other than a psych ward in a hospital themselves.
But they have authority. The courts listen to them.
I thank GOD that I don’t have children- I, as a man, only have to face the horrors of false accusations (At least I can defend myself- a child can’t in this insanity…) from another person. With a Child, I’d have to worry about being accused of things I’d never do- but would be presumed GUILTY before proven innocent (Uh, these ARE criminal violations here, folks- where’s that little presumption in the Constitution???) and then the child will be placed into an environment and a situation where they will most likely be much more abused than anything I might have done to them. Moreover, you run the risk of making a girl or boy a Borderline Personality when you do crap like this.
It’s wrong in most cases and we’re doing nothing about it.
Comment by MadScientist — May 8, 2008 @ 5:39 am
I’d avoid taking the Profane Justice site TOO seriously- some of the people they’re affiliated with (www.badadvocates.com) seem wont to name calling, peppering their posts with very disturbing misandrist propaganda and pictures, and doing a lot of “personality profile” articles and while the people they’re “profiling” are very definitely mentally ill, the descriptions are dead-wrong as to what’s actually WRONG with the person.
Take their advice to heart- you should be cautious about online stuff.
Comment by MadScientist — May 8, 2008 @ 6:23 am
MadAScientist: I agree, pot is not the evil that it is made out to be. Thats not the point though, its illegal, Charles knows its illegal, he chose to grow/use it anyway and now his son’s life will never be the same. That is what I object to, not pot in general.
Comment by Missy — May 8, 2008 @ 6:27 am
MadScientist
the people they’re “profiling†are very definitely mentally i??
Please Look at Profane Justice which is the 100% owner and editor of badadvocates.com now Tell me who is the one with the mental issues..
Billy
http://thetruthistold.com/
If You’re Not Outraged, You’re Not Paying Attention ..
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Comment by billy wiseman — May 8, 2008 @ 10:21 am
MadScientist,
Take a good look at Profane Nonsense(justice) and trash others(badadvocates.com). Those people are out of their minds, vicious, vindictive, and liars. I’ve watched those people since the Internet Archive incident. I thought Ms.Shel and her buddies were nuts back then, but they’ve actually passed insanity. Nothing a straight jacket and padded cell can’t cure.
Comment by Val — May 8, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Dear Mr Madscientist
First my nane isn’t Missy. It’s Fran. I’m not hiding behind a coded name. If you read my post I did NOT say I had anytthing aganist pot. (I grew up in th 70’s. that was a clue). However it’s illegal. Of course CPS is going to use anything made up or otherwise aganist parents in order to take their children away. CPS lies, that a fact! Why give them something to use aganist you? Your right even if Chales gets rid of the pot CPS is going to be in his life. But right now he needs a lawyer. The first thing the lawyer is going to require is that Charles stop growing weed. He can’t keep the pot and get his child back. I remember the days of “less than an ounce etc… Thoses days are gone. I feel for Charles and I understand making a stand aganist the goverment. However in this case Charles has to choose which is more inportant, his conviction, that growing pot is harmless, or getting his child back.
Comment by fran — May 8, 2008 @ 11:03 am
I am at not sure who to turn to for help. My grandchildredn were placed with me June 12 of 07. My daughter and her husband had just gotton back from a little leage baseball game with the kids and the police raided the home. The police said they has a tip they were selling drugs. Needless to say both went to jail. My husband (the grandfather) picked the kids up from the house and brought them to our house. He was given a number with Child protective service and told to be there in the morning. Unfortunatly the kids were taken out of the house and live with us. There were no drugs found in the home and the police released both of the parents with no charges. The FIA and the Childprotective services both agreed this should not be in court . Well here it is a year later and now as of yesterday the FIA worker recommended my daughter not be allowed to see the kids unsupervised no more because the worker did not get lab results of drug testing from a place they have been going for a year. At no time has she ever had a bad drug screen at random or in any court hearing. I asked why, and she (FIA ) said because my daughter didnt give her paper work from the random screens. What I dont understand, it the worker gets the lab work not my daughter. We discussed the issue of my daughter never ever using drugs , she agreedbut said she wants the data. So now the kids can not see their mom unless I get them to the agency 3 days a week for one hour. The girls are 10 and 11 they do not get off the school bus until 4:445 . the agency is 30 min, away.they have to eat dinner ,they are in cheer leading ,swim club, and after school homework club. I dont understand. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. I believe this worker is out of control and is doing thongs in her own intrest not the kids. I did tell her that and she said maybe everyone involved would do what she asked of them by taking the kids away. Please help. I am not sure who to turn to for help.
Comment by Michelle — May 8, 2008 @ 11:12 am
Dear Linda
thanks for the advise. i am just so fed up with this woman using the system to hurt others. It tears me up inside to think that my baby will have to face these CPS workers again because of the insane lies told by this person. You can’t reason with them. Even when you have proof that the things she states are made up, they still side with her saying “why would she lie” How do I know why, she’s crazy! So my baby who is scared to death of these people from last time has to be victimized again. I will take your advise because after I calmed down and thought about it, it made sense. However I hope they do not go to her school. If they come to the house I can tell them that we can all meet at my lawyers office. However I have no control at the school.
Comment by fran — May 8, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Michelle, as a grandparent you have almost no rights if this caseworker chooses to take the kids away from you and place them with a different relative or a foster caretaker.
Please don’t rock the boat!
Let the parents of the children fight this battle with the caseworker. They need to get the paperwork straightened out. This is an example of how caseworkers threaten and manipulate things when they don’t get the paperwork they need. But you, Grandma… stay out of the fight… just hope that she’ll leave the kids with you for now where they are loved and taken care of right.
Comment by Linda — May 8, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
Fran, about not having control at the schools, there’s a thing called a Hatch Letter you can write to the school requesting no contact with CPS for your children. But most school employees do not understand this issue. When my daughter went to eighth grade after being homeschooled many years, I wrote a Hatch Letter to the school. But half-way through the school year when one of the school board members called CPS because I didn’t have my daughter enrolled in a counseling program, the school totally ignored the Hatch Letter and they were going to let the CPS worker interview her alone anyhow. The CPS worker called me first and I arrived at the school as they were calling her out of class, so I sat in on that interview. But the point is, you can write it but when a CPS worker shows up at the school, the school secretary may not honor it. If you go this route, explain the situation to the school secretary. Also children can be given cards stating that if they are interviewed by CPS they want to have their parent and/or attorney present. It is up to the children to demand this right when confronted with the situation.
Comment by Linda — May 8, 2008 @ 2:36 pm
Dear Linda
Thanks for the info. I read something about that the other day. It’s hard to explain to a five year old, however since she is so scared from before she may understand. I will get that done and in place this week. Thanks
Comment by fran — May 8, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
The reality is, most lawyers won’t take on the stuff, nor will any of the judges. Northwest Texas Legal Aid told my friend who’s dealing with false allegations to CPS who just called them today- “They won’t take on cases because they’re too powerful. Judges and Lawyers won’t take cases like that because they’re too powerful and you’ll just have to jump through the hoops they put you through even if they’re in the wrong.”. WORD FOR WORD. What in the HELL is going on here? Too powerful? For them to be breaking the law with impunity? This is a caseworker with little more than a Masters in Psychology, dictating LAW to people willy nilly- for the sake of the kids.
Comment by MadScientist — May 9, 2008 @ 9:02 am
Mad Scientist:
You sure that s/he has an earned Master’s in Psychology?
http://www.txcfr.org
Texas Center for Family Rights. Phone # on Website. Nice folks.
Comment by Fern — May 9, 2008 @ 11:47 am
Heh… I was being gracious at best. I can’t surmise what they do/don’t have in a degree. All I do know is that they’re very much guilty of multiple violations of my friends’ Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment rights. Right down to the Safety Order they coerced them into signing so they could keep their kids.
Thanks for the heads up on the link- I think they’re going to need it. The case worker is one of the ones that was involved with the Eldorado raids. While there’s room for doubt that all those people are innocent of wrongdoing in a manner that there should be no issue with CPS, what they did there is something that we fought WWII over.
Comment by MadScientist — May 9, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Dear MadScientist
I understand your frustration. I tried to hire a lawyer. However the only lawyer in our area willing to take on CPS had retired. Then I was told that I only had a year from the date the complaint was made. Where the person making the complaint had a year from the date the case was unfounded to introduce new information. By the time I could sue her, time ran out, however she had another year. Which she used to call zoning, CPS, etc…This woman is totally protected by the law, and my child is victimized by CPS when ever she feels like calling, with new lies. I’m at the point now that I don’t know what to do. I don’t know who will show up at my door next. It’s beyond words the injustice that our system allows to go on. Now I document everything. But it seems pointless.
Comment by fran — May 9, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
This is my second time being investigated by the CPS due to false and frivolous accusations by my ex-wife. Even though she broke court orders taking him to the emergency room without contacting me over a “suspicious bruise” as lord knows it is absolutely abnormal for a 2 year old to be injured in any way, especially small scrapes or bruises. Regardless of the fact that I have proved repeated false allegations by this woman through domestic violence accusations, 3 PPO’s, 1.5 year divorce, and this is about her 20th accusation of child abuse (even though she testified on the stand she has never accused me of child abuse) through medical sources.
This tells me CPS feels it is okay for false accusations since they fall into erring with the child “just in case” even if the person has repeatedly made false accusations in her very recent past, it is very okay and merely labeled as an “overprotective mother”. Even though I have no history of abuse and also have a 9 and 11 year old whom the mother will speak worlds of me about and both are the top of their class academically and behavior-wise.
All this and I now havn’t seen my 2 year old in three weeks now because of an over-arrogant and power-demanding CPS investigator. She told me she did not even read the old investigation (which I received a full copy of by judicial order proving the ex-wife was again the accuser), and does not care as it “is not relevant”.
Seems to me, they know what answer they want, and try to base their investigation to prove it without considering any surrounding facts. The constitution, parent’s rights, and children’s rights are thrown out the window for someone who simply wants to remove the child from the other parent’s life.
all they have to do is keep complaining…..
Makes me want to move to another country where animals have less rights than humans, and citizens are protected against false accusations and actually are “innocent until proven guilty”
I’m done venting now. If anyone knows of an excellent attourney specializing in CPS that is willing to sue the CPS and my ex-wife (I have documented proof of repeated false accusations, filing of false police reports, and lieing under oath) — money is no concern. Family and friends are poised ready to each drop thousands of dollars in attempts of ending this repeated harassment by my ex-wife and her abuse and total disregard for justice, our court system, and repeatedly and intentionally using the system fraudulently to persecute me.
Comment by drew — May 10, 2008 @ 1:14 am
Dear Drew
In the same situation but the woman is not related to me, just crazy. Anyhow after having yet another agency at my house for yet another false alligation, I was told by (the last angency to respond) that she (this woman) is protected by the law and can call any angency including the police and state what ever she want’s as long as she feels she is being truthful. However there is no way to comeback at her, because this would mean that anyone making a alligation could be sued and therefore the alligations that are true may go unreported. The lastest I have heard is she may call the media. I checked with my lawyer and was told the media is also protected by “freedom of speech”. So I am learning that anyone can say anything (as long as they “feel” they are truthful) and they can not be sued. So I asked, well that should work both ways? NO, because I was the one that had the charges against me in the first place, I do not share in the same rights. It has been a year, things were peaceful after I got my unfounded letter, the case was about be be closed (her year would have been up) Three days before the year was up, she started again. You know what, I haven’t even see this woman the whole time.
Comment by fran — May 10, 2008 @ 10:32 am
Is it true that caseworkers are immune to the law when it comes to lying?
My caseworker lied on stand to judge about my daughter having bruises when the pediatrician documented that there were no bruises?
Also my son is claiming abuse by foster dad but yet I keep getting brushed off and nothing is happening.
One more thing, one of my children will have to stay in foster care for treatment of bipolar. They are expecting the other 2 children to remain in foster care to go along for the ride while sibling gets treatment. Is this fair to keep other children away from family and friends? Also can anything be done about this type of situation? I agree my child should stay in foster care to get treatment but at the same time don’t think the the other 2 should have to stay and go along for the ride for months if not years. TIA to anyone who can help.
Comment by Meghan — May 10, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am 22 years old living in sioux city, ia and have 2 beautiful baby boys. i was with there father for about 6 years. He was abusive to me emotionally, physically, and sexually. Him and my crazy mother live together and have been making up lies to me.my mom abused me as a child and helped my husband see marijuana out of her home. they set me up in a parking lot about 1 year ago and stole my 4 year old from me right out of my arms. they tell cps that my boyfriend was using drugs and cps told me that we had to break up. cps keeps making up lies about me saying that i am bring my kids around inapropriate people. i had one cps worker walk into my house without my permission and start searching through my drawers and when i told her to get out of my house she told the judge that i threatened her life and that i scratched up her car, even tho i was in the house with her. man i must be good 2 be able 2 be in 2 places at one time. my boyfriend has done nothing and has offered to do what he needs to help me keep the kids. cps says no. i have been fighting this for almost 2 years now and i am getting nowhere. Did i mention that my husband has been to jail for hitting me and is facing felony charges for using a false ssn to gain employment…HE IS AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!!!!!!! i told cps he could take my kids and run 2 mexico with them and that i will never see them again. but they say the are not concerned about that. May 9, 2008 i went to court and cps gave custody to my husband and only will allow me to see them supervised for 2 hrs per week. But did agree to move it to district court, from juvenile court. Im not real sure what good that will do for me. But i love my kids with all my heart and will not give up on them. My 4 years old crys at every visit with me begging me to let him come back home. I just keep telling him i am trying my best. Please help me if anyone knows anything i can do to get this resolved!!! im begging for the saftey of my kids. If my ex runs to mexico with them then what??? Please help me by calling. 712-577-8557, my phone is always on!!!! i need help fast!! i dont get online much, so i need help so please call if u know what i can do or have any suggestions.
Comment by Rose — May 10, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
I have a friend who allowed her brother to put a small tattoo on her 14 year old sons arm. Her sisters roomate found out and threatened to call the police and CPS. I know they would probably go to the house but based on this one thing, do you all think they would have a case? They live in Missouri.
Comment by Emma — May 11, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
I am a CPS worker in CA. I do not think that would even be investigated, well at least not in the county I work for…it could be different in other counties.
Comment by Sinthia — May 11, 2008 @ 8:10 pm
Fran,
Reporting parties (RP’s) are always kept confidential. How do you know who is making a “false alligation”
against you?
It is true that anyone can make allegations about a family, whether they are true or not. This includes family members, neighbors, and what are called mandated reporters; nurses, doctors, teachers and daycare providers, to name a few.
When someone calls your particular county’s child abuse hotline to report suspicions of child abuse and/or neglect, there is a trained professional, many times a Protective Services Worker (PSW) at the other end of the line who gathers all of the necessary and pertinent information. That PSW uses, not only their own assessment skills but they also use what is called a Structured Decision Making (SDM) tool, which is computerized, to decide whether the report should be evaluated out, meaning it doesn’t warrant an investigation or if it should be investigated. This decision is based on the allegations, age of the child victim, severity of the abuse, and other important information. It is then determined whether the referral/report requires an immediate response, usually within 2 hours, 3-5 day response or 10 day response. The response times differ depending on the county and state.
The referral/report is then assigned to a PSW who interviews the children, parents, and collaterals (people who know the family such as family members, neighbors, doctors, teachers, etc.) It is the PSW’s job to determine whether the allegations are Substantiated, Inconclusive or Unfounded. The PSW assesses the immediate safety concerns. I can not speak for other PSW’s on this but I try all other recourses before placing a child into protective custody. Sometimes, there are safety concerns but a child can be left in the home when a safety plan is put into place and enforced (ex. a domestic violence (DV) perpetrator leaves the home, a temporary restraining order (TRO) is obtained, and the family engages in a Voluntary Services (VS) case.) Please note that DV in the home while children are present can constitute Emotional Abuse (EA).
In my county there are TDM (Team Decision Making) meetings held, which include the family members and other community agencies, in order to mitigate the circumstances that brought the family to the attention of Child Welfare Services (CWS). Many times, a VS case and TDM’s are put into place before placing a child in protective custody. My point is that there are often many opportunities for the parents’ to address safety/risk factors before their child is removed.
If a child has to be placed into protective custody, an emergency placement with a relative or non related extended family member (NREFM), such as a close family friend or family’s church member, can be made on the spot and at the time of the removal, so that the child does not have to be placed in a foster home. It is my county’s policy to place with the parents’ first, relatives next, NREFM’s, then foster parents last.
I speak for myself and my experience working as a CWS PSW in my county and region, with a mainly Spanish speaking Hispanic population (of which I am a part of) that I do all that I can to prevent children from being removed from their parents’ because being a mother myself I can only imagine how traumatizing and damaging this can be for a family. A removal is only made when a child is at risk of serious harm and/or injury.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Comment by Sinthia — May 11, 2008 @ 9:25 pm
I am a mother of 5 kids !! On april 28 of this year my 3 yr old fell from the 2 story bedroom window she is doing great only suffered a skull fracture but she will recover fully!! cys stepped in becasue my house was dirty (was really bad i was in a car accident and got hurt so not able to do the everyday clean up ) my bf is off 2 days a week so i scrubb down on those two days every week !! now i need to fight to get them back and i never hurt them ever I need help on how to get them and the steps i need to take to get them hit me up on yahoo Minga021 !! i am always on i need help fast my hiring for permancey hiring is on the 13th of this month my state is pennsylvania
Comment by Minga — May 11, 2008 @ 10:23 pm
Michelle,
Will CPS allow *you* to supervise the visits between your grandchildren and your daughter? If they will allow you to do it, there is the possibility that you can do it at some neutral location (McD’s, a playground, etc.). It may be worth checking in to.
Good luck.
Jess
Comment by Jess — May 12, 2008 @ 6:27 am
Dear Sinthia
I know who it is because the womans name was on the unfounded letter. I never recieved my own letter. This was an interal letter and a copy of it was sent to me. However I already knew who it was because we had a following out 7 months eailier. After our following out, she went through our neighborhood trashing me. (She dosn’t live in my nieghborhood)
When CPS came to my house I heard statements she had made to the neighbors and me, repeated.word for word.
At first I wanted to sue this person but I discovered she is protected by law. I wanted a copy of the complete reported and discovered (through my lawyer) that I had a year from the date the complaint was made, and rarely is this information released. However she has a year from the date it was unfounded to introduce new information. Days before that time would have expired, I start receiving visits from zoning, with all kinds of complanits that zoning found untrue. However zoning informed me that based on their conversation with this person, (they can’t release the name), they feel things may get worse. She may call other angencies including CPS again, (if she already hasn’t)
My lawyer said that anyone can make any alligation to any agency as long as they feel they are being truthful. I haven’t done anything to this woman. She has all these wonderful rights. Where are my rights?
Comment by fran — May 12, 2008 @ 11:27 am
Michelle,
I WAS allowed to supervise the visitations between my grandkids and their mother, my daughter. At a fast food place for the 1st 2 weeks, then at my daughters home. A month later, on overnights at my daughters home. CPS and the Judge allowed it without hesitation.
The Judge reminded CPS we were on a “re-unification” plan that CPS wrote, and tha allowed me as the grandparent and guardian, to supervise visits and aid in their rehabiitation with their parents.
Comment by Cheryl — May 12, 2008 @ 12:01 pm
Subject: update PLEASE HELP THIS FAMILY BY FORWARDING THIS STORY
PLEASE, THIS STORY NEEDS TO BE DISTRIBUTED FAR AND WIDE. PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE! AND I AM ASKING FOLKS TO DO A BIT OF RESEARCH INTO CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE/FOSTER CARE CORRUPTION!
THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, EVEN YOU!
This is an effort to help two little girls find their way home,
I have written to every state legislator in this state. All have failed to reply. With the exception of one who had a “not my job response,” Please read this mail in its entirety and please go to you tube to see these videos, they are not to believed.
Since these letters have went out there have been two more tapes added to YouTube. I also ask you to view three others that are in the body of the statement.
Head to Head with CPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umj2ROENduo&feature=related
WHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBMDy5ejJY&feature=related
CPS making up rules as they go along
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u97iVrGFLKk&feature=related
Family Reunification Is Visitation Canceled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fk1oihfqt4&feature=related
Family Reunification Is Visitation Canceled Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpb4ToEvYBo&feature=related
and with forwarded emails the most recent is at the top.
Honorable Mr Steil AND OTHERS:
With all due respect-
Let me assure you that the Representative of GOGEBIC county got a copy of the Colemans statement. We are estimating from feedback and tracking, literally thousands have read this story.
Not only is the story being talked about in GOGEBIC county, MICHIGAN, and the nation, IT IS BEING READ AROUND THE WORLD and plastered on websites. The feedback is astonishing.
We are pushing for big time exposure at the national level and we are getting it.
This is not a district problem. This is indeed a national problem. IT IS MICHIGAN’S PROBLEM.
You must understand that the Colemans are getting a TREMENDOUS amount of support from people all over the country. You must understand the depth and scope of the problem with the abuses by the Child Protective System. People of note are well aware of what is going on with the hell that the Coleman family has went through.
Countless people in MICHIGAN and the nation have lived the nightmare.
I talked to Robert last night and he told me that Caitlyn has been vaginally examined at least three times. The baby has been gynecologically inspected as well.
Caitlyn reported to her father that the DOCTOR DID NOT WEAR GLOVES AS HE TOUCHED HER PEE PEE AND BUTT.
Is he the mysterious “DOCTOR” EDWARDS?
Mr. Coleman has miles of tape on the siege of his family. He has just submitted the clip of Caitlyns telling about the DOCTOR who touched her private parts without gloves on to YOU TUBE for the world to see.
MICHIGAN’S SHAME.
It is Robert and Janets intention to continue to expose the sick and broken system by submitting excerpts from the reams of tapes that they have.
Expect to see more of it on YOU TUBE.
Failures of the Child Protective Services which have resulted in the horrendous abuse and murder of children have blazed the front pages of this state, MICHIGAN’S, newspapers.
Far too many children and families are suffering throughout MICHIGAN. Gogebics problem is your problem. It is my problem and it is the problem of every family in this state.
I have gotten the same response from the politicians at the national level.
At least they responded with a “not my problem”. At least there was a response.
Protocall in your conceding any comments or actions to the esteemed Representative from GOGEBIC county’s district is out of courtesy and I understand that. However, someone has to stand up for our children.
YOU are the only MICHIGAN legislator who has responded so far.
The governor, deputy governor and first gentlemen have yet to respond to my concerns about child abuse and STATE SANCTIONED CHILD ABUSE via the agencies who are there to protect children..
I have studied the problem intently for a number of years now and what I am finding out is shocking. I want the corruption exposed.
I demand that changes are made for the good of MICHIGAN’S children and their families.
There is far too much abuse by the system that is intended to protect children. Instead of protecting the innocent babes, they are child grinding machines. Federal dollars for foster care is good for the states coffers but, very bad for MICHIGAN’S children.
Too often, I am finding a conflict of interests where those involved in the decision making process have “interests” in the adoption agencies, group foster care homes and support services for CPS.
The nations newspapers frequently publish articles exposing CPS and CPS support workers as pedophiles.
There is a lot of money and debauchery to be made off of removing children from loving homes.
IT NEEDS TO STOP.
I have several laws in mind that I would like to see passed that would help insure that children get a better chance of surviving the Child Protective System.
Among several laws that need to be passed is a conflict of interest law. NO MORE JUDGES SETTING ON THE BOARDS OF ADOPTION AGENCIES AND GROUP FOSTER HOMES. This must be a no no.
It does not matter to me if the children who are being destroyed because the state says so, are in GOGEBIC county or Ingham county or Wayne county. They are all residents of Michigan and I will fight for them.
Will YOU?
I appreciate your response and I truly hope that I gave you fodder for some serious soul searching and thinking about the children in MICHIGAN!
thank you
Martha Hyde
From FAMILY RIGHTS website.. .
C P S luvs the little children All the children of the world Red and
yellow, black or poor, they are precious for Title four, C P S luvs the little children of the world.
District 72 wrote:
Dear Ms. Hyde,
Thank you for contacting my office with your concerns about the Coleman’s situation.
In an effort to better address your concerns, please send their home mailing address and contact information. Let me assure you, this is in no way intended to convey unwillingness on my part to be of assistance. Rather it is a matter of professional courtesy to allow the appropriate legislator the opportunity to assist his or her own constituents.
Again, thank you for contacting me, I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Glenn Steil, Jr.
State Representative
72nd District
>>> MARTHA HYDE 5/7/2008 12:23 PM >>>
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mfindlay@chartermi.net
Robert and Janet Coleman need our help.
Let’s see what we can do to pull together and help their children find their way home safe and sound once again. This is a true story that began in March 2008. Please listen to this story.
We need to protect our children.
Below, you find three documents on Youtube that shows how corrupt the system is. The Colemans rights have been violated.
Also, please read Janet and Roberts statement explaining what happened. The Colemans are good people who have been abused by the system. Please understand that Child Protective Services contracts their services out to PRIVATE FOR PROFIT COMPANIES. There is a great deal of money to be made off of creating misery for children and their families.
Robert and Janet did not hurt their little girls. Caitlyn and Ashley were battered in foster care.
I am asking you all to forward this on to others in order to make our world a better place for families. This is an important effort as what happened to the Colemans is happening to good families all over Michigan and throughout the country. Please Google CPS foster care corruption.
You will be shocked at what you learn.
Let’s fight the good fight and help this family and others save their wee ones from the abuse of CPS and foster care.
Please pass this story on to everyone, friends, family, your church AND YOUR LEGISLATORS!
As good and decent people, we need to stand up to state sanctioned abuse.
Robert & Janet Colemans Story
Child Protective Services has taken our 6 year old Caitlyn and baby Ashley from our loving arms because of lies.
The improper, heavy handed, illegal, and over zealous actions by Child Protective Services, police officers and foster care is child abuse. Child Protective Services has harmed our children.
Our family has suffered greatly because of the actions of county and state officials who acted on the lies of vindictive people.
While we were on a vacation, our hotel was surrounded by police officers from several departments and all of the entrances were blocked. As our room was raided and our little girls were being carried away, our babies screams were heard throughout the hotel. It was a surreal experience being surrounded by police, seeing folks come out of their rooms as our pleading and crying children were rushed to a police car.
Our girls have not been abused by us. Caitlyn and Ashley were taken during a siege at the hotel that we were staying in. We were terrorized because of someones lies. Our children were absolutely loved and well cared for when the Child Protective Services broke into our lives.
Our first contact with Child Protective Services began with deceit. We had the right to be with our children when CPS was at our home to interview us and the girls. Child Protective Service said that if we did not leave them alone with our children that they would get a court order and take Caitlyn and Ashley from us then.
We complied, even though we knew that it was our legal right to be with Caitlyn and Ashley. We did not want to loose our little girls.
Officials have admitted that they had no right to take Caitlyn and Ashley since they did not find fault at the initial interview and did not remove our children at that time. We were told that we would have to go through a trial before a judgment to remove our children could be made.
Our girls were torn from us in a terroristic manner and put into harms way in foster care.
Caitlyn and Ashley have not been abused by their parents. Caitlyn and Ashley have been abused by Child Protective Services and their agents, numerous police departments and foster care.
At our first court hearing we were ordered to produce the girls original birth certificates, social security cards, their immunization records and our signatures to terminate our rights as Caitlyn and Ashleys parents.
We were treated as guilty with absolutely no evidence to support the claims.
We were accused of spanking our daughter Caitlyn.
We do not abuse our children.
Our friends and families support us as loving, good and fit parents. The people in our church are with us, people in the reform movement are with us. And importantly, our daughters own pediatrician will support us as good and proper parents.
Our children were taken in a siege, have been physically and psychologically scrutinized by doctors who we did not give permission to examine them. We are still Caitlyn and Ashleys parents and we demand the right to parent them by making choices for them.
We demand the right to protect them.
Our children had a right to their own doctor.
Caitlyn has been taken to a dentist. She was scheduled for an appointment with our family dentist. Her appointment was not met because of CPS. Child Protective Services chose a dentist, not her own and submitted her to first time dentistry without the comfort of her parents .
Because of false allegations our daughters have been terrorized.
People that we knew, who we tried to help, made false accusations against us out of anger. We have been subjected to threats made against us and our children. Janets life has been threatened.
Threats to beat and murder her are unsettling at the least.
Our children may be taken away because people had a score to settle. Because of lies, Caitlyn and Ashley have been abused by people in the system and by the system itself.
Our accusers are bragging about what they have done and what they want to do to us and to Caitlyn and Ashley. They want to do bodily harm to us, they want us out of the way, and they want to adopt our children. We now know that our children have been beaten by our accusers. They are bragging now that they will claim our children.
Child Protective Services has disregarded the fact that Caitlyn and Ashley still have parents. The CPS has forced our little girls into all myriad of poking and prodding and mental abuse by the agency and its contract personnel. All while denying them the love and comfort of their mother and father.
Ashley came to the first visitation with bruises and a burn mark on her wrists, a bump on her head, a deep cut on her leg, multiple scratches on her back and she did not smell good. We have asked for her injuries to be identified and documented and have seen nothing.
Caitlyn has come to the first visitation with bruises and what appeared to be a burn on her. We are particularly concerned with the bruises on Caitlyns ankles and elbows. Again, we have asked for the bruises to be identified and documented by CPS and their agents but are yet to see the report.
Caitlyn was examined early on and no molestation was found. After Caitlyn had been in foster care she was examined again and found to have had her hymen damaged and she had a white pimply rash on her butt.
The claim was made that she was examined by Dr. Edwards in Marquette .
There is no Dr. Edwards in Marquette hospitals.
It is ridiculous for CPS to claim that our children were molested by us. Doctors records support the fact that the children showed no evidence of it when they were removed from our care. The records prove that the time of the first exam, the children had not been molested. Supervised visitations would prevent any possible molestation by the us. A later physical exam proves that our children were molested in foster care under the watchful eye of Child Protective Services.
Child Protective Services have taken our little girls and put them into foster care where they have been horribly abused.
Caitlyn, our oldest is just 6 years old. Ashley, our youngest is two.
Janet, my wife is pregnant. The stress and helplessness that she experienced from seeing our dear little girls bruised and burned and being drained and distressed caused Janet to leak amniotic fluids. The stress of Janet seeing our children abused put our unborn baby in danger.
Janet made an overnight stay at the hospital because Child Protective Services was not protecting Caitlyn and Ashley from abuse while in their care and in foster care.
Caitlyn, not only physically abused, has suffered mental and emotional abuses as well. We fear that she will not ever be the same.
Caitlyn is confused and does not understand why it is that she has been asked by CPS to lie. She feels a great deal of guilt because she was asked by them to lie and say that we beat her. She knows this is a lie and does not understand why she is told to say that. She only knows that she was told that she would be allowed to come home if she did lie and say that we beat her.
Caitlyn repeatedly analogizes to us. She is deeply regretting her words. Caitlyn feels a great deal of guilt that should not be on any child. The manipulation of a childs emotions as CPS is doing, is abuse.
Asking a child to tell a lie that would force her innocent parents to be labeled as child abusers and forced into a service plan is abuse by Child Protective Services. We feel that complying with the service plan would be an admission of guilt.
We are not guilty.
We have been lied to, threatened, our children have suffered horribly, our unborn baby has been put into danger.
Laws have been broken by the authorities and our telephone has been tapped without a court order.
Our supervised visitations have been cut short and also outright denied. Child Protective Service workers have broken court orders and refused to let us see Caitlyn and Ashley. Our little girls were there waiting for us in the very next room and were waiting to see us.
The Child Protective Service worker repeatedly lied and twisted facts in her reports. She lied about events that took place during an earlier visit. She was also angry because Caitlyn asked when she could come home and we told her 17 days. We were trying to comfort Caitlyn with positive words which were forbidden by CPS.
When we became irritated and disgusted with the lies, we revealed that we had been recording our meetings with CPS and our visitations. At that point we were denied further visitation with our children.
Clearly the worker was frustrated, angered and embarrassed by the revelation of the tape recordings.
Evidence that proves that the Child Protective Worker lied, twisted facts, threatened and denied a court order for our visitation rights has been published on Youtube.
We are asking that this case be dropped as we are innocent and a case is being fabricated against us. Our little girl Caitlyn and baby Ashley have been physically, mentally and emotionally abused because of Child Protection Services.
Please return our beloved little girls.
We swear that our statements are the truth.
Robert & Janet Coleman
906.932.7400, 906.932.7368, or 906.364.1818, our home address is 205 East Vaughn Street, Ironwood, Michigan 49938 .
Comment by Martha Hyde — May 12, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
You know what is so sad, that someone can make a phone call or repeated phone calls telling lies, and I understand CPS has to investagate. However these people (making the phone calls) go on with their lives. My life will forever be changed and on hold. I am always fearful that CPS will show up at my door again. It’s one thing if CPS follows their own regulations and code of ethics, but when they don’t and there is no one to insure CPS is following these regs and ethics, it turns famlies lifes into nightmares. We love our children. We wouldn’t be here pouring out our hearts if we didn’t. We just want fair rights. GOd Bless you all.
Comment by fran — May 13, 2008 @ 9:29 am
I have been dealing with CPS for seven years now and thought there was nowhere to turn, still kind of fill that way. I have gone from a strong mother and wife to a drained stressed and very over whelmed mother and wife. My husbands ex wife and her family have been making false allegations to the social workers for the whole time i have been here. I have now medical conditions caused by stress that the doctor can’t cointrol, untill the stress stops. I am now under an ongoing case and the Social worker said it was so that the other social worker didn’t get it and get the facts wrong once again. I never knew about appeals. I went to the DSS building and spoke to the social worker 1 week before the case was called in and the SW even informed me that she had gone to her boss and informed her that we came in and told her it was getting ready to start again. Now my husbands ex wife don’t use her name she makes one up. I was told that I was so strung out on drugs that I couldn’t take care of my children- now that was the complaint. I have showed the sw a drug test results page that I volunteerily went and took and paid for and signed a release for her to speak to my thearipist (that she was so stressing to get me to sign it) I have done everything that they wanted me to do. Now, they haven’t taken my kids (knock on wood-they won’t) and they yet won’t leave me alone. The sw I have now has had two previous cases with me and neither case has she gotten the facts right on. She saw a Walmart smock on my door and wrote down i was a worker at walmart when in fact she called my job and i was a bill collector. Her wording on the paper was fictiously wrote. I have even told the sw that they say that they try to keep families together, but they are tearing this one apart.. I’m lost and scared.
Comment by Cindy — May 13, 2008 @ 10:33 am
“Court Pigsâ€
Family court the law surpasses
Stealing children from the masses
Evil plotting our destruction
CPS whores are corruption
In the homes the families yearning
As the court machine keeps turning
New World Order for mankind
Poison from reptilian minds, oh lord yeah!
Politicians seem to shy away
Nobody listens to the poor
Why should they believe in family rights?
They’re raking in the bucks from Title IV
Feminazis on their power trips
Persecuting families just for fun
Pimping children out to foster homes
Wait until their judgement day will come, yeah!
Now in Texas, children crying
As the court machine keeps lying
Family court pigs need to cower
Hand of God must strike the hour
Day of election, Ron Paul calling
Off their thrones, the court pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Clinton, laughing, spreads her wings
All right now!
Comment by Susan — May 13, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
To read on my story, please go to my website. It also offers websites that may help some of you mothers out there.
I just wanted to say how horrible CPS can really be. They think that just because a child has a bruise on his knee, hes being abused! What ever happened to a child playing outside and tripping? Dont you think that thats where the bruise came from??
CPS listens to nothing but hear-say. Try to tell them what is REALLY going on, and you are called a liar. Whatever. I’m an American! I have rights, those are called the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! I have Ancestors who died in war for me to have those rights. and Ill be damned if some witches are gonna walk all over that, and put my grandfathers, grandfathers names in vein.
We need to take a stand. Now I agree, some children would be better off in foster care, CPS needs to start worrying about those children and leave the ones that are perfectly happy, healthy and safe alone!!
For Example,
I lived across the street from this family who sold crack out of his font yard. YES IN FRONT OF HIS 2 year old daughter and his 6 year old son. Not only did he sell it in front of them, but he smoked it in front of them. This was brought up to the State and they laughed it off and left those children alone.. to suffer.. with drug addicted parents. Its horrible, and it needs to stop
Sorry, but not all of our government officials care. And honestly, none of the canidadtes for president care either.. trust me I know. I’ve tried to contact all of them.. not to even get a single reply from them.. Not to even say Im praying for you… So Elect me for president.. I could guarentee that our american children would be placed back into our homes safely where they belong in the first damn place..
sorry was ranting and raving.. lol now go check out the website!!
Comment by Kristle — May 14, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
my website is http://www.freewebs.com/luvbleangel
Comment by Kristle — May 14, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
If your in Texas…. Write into Randy Wallace, Fox 26 Houston….
Don’t bother him if you don’t want to abide by the laws. Growing marijuana in Texas is illegal…
CPS is corrupt… But, growing marijuana is illegal none the less.
Linda is right… If you have your grandchild/granchildren… don’t rock the boat… have an outside/3rd party do it for you!
When going to court always try and have a friend… not just family members… Of course always have all the family there you can have, but, also the one person that isn’t your family..
If your in Texas start reading the Houston Chronicle… Our Judge and attorneys were exposed on Sunday, April 20th and again on April 21st.
The attorney’s contribute to the Judges campaign. The Judge hands cases out to the contributors… In our court 314th Judge Phillips he has 22 contributors… 3 of them were our attorneys… The top contributor was my son-in-laws attorney.
My story is a very long story as all of ours are. I did get my granddaughter back in my possession in exactly 8 wks to the day.
We had our story told on Channel 26, and Channel 13 helped us get a visit with my granddaughter when CPS was hiding her from us due to the fact that she was so neglected that death was certain. We video taped the visit.
I could go on and on… but I won’t .. May God Bless each and every one of you and your children/grandchildren!
Comment by Diando — May 14, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
My case is me and my husband were arguing and I pushed him and he put his hands around my neck not chocking me but to calm me down and the kids started to hit him so he pushed my little girl off and told her to get outside then our little boy come and started hitting him with something and he grabbed him under the chin to get him to go out and play so my little girl called my mom and told them well then my mom and dad come down and my dad and hubby started to fight. When that happened my daughter was scared and run in the house to call the cops and my neighbor called well the cops come and my little boy ran out to them and told them my daddy chocked me they come straight in and arrested my husband. He posted bond that night and the cop told him that he had to call CPS cause he could lose his job if he didnt. That got them involved I didnt press any charges cause he wasnt hurthing me and He would never hurt one of our kids but the cop pressed charges so now the CPS worker isnt letting him come back home and it has been 11 days so far and she has talked o my kids but hasnt talked to me yet. I fianlly got ahold of her today and she told me that some people in the community had told her that we fight regulary (that is not true) we hardly ever fight and she started bringing up the past like 10 years ago I dont see how what happened 10 years ago is any of her business and I know none of my neighbors have talken to this woman. Also she had told me that there were 911 tapes of people who have called in about us but that the cops had never come. I dont know if I can do anything or not but this is crazy my kids are well taken care of and I take care of most of the kids in the neighborhood on a daily basis. Someone please help me……
Comment by Christy in West Virginia — May 15, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
I live in VA and I have full custody of my niece. The family lives in PA. Yesterday my brother went to court for child support on the older brother. Half way through the hearing, DSS walks in asking about my niece. They claimed there was no parterity proving my brother was the father. They tell my brother they (DSS in PA) will go to VA and pick her, put her in foster care until they (DSS in PA) can prove parterity. (My brother never signed the birth certicate beacuse he was in jail at the time of her birth). His name was not on the birth ceretiicate, however she has his last name. My brother agrees and signs, to prove he is the father at that time, and DSS walks out. I talked in a lawyer who said that should stop DSS from going any further. What I want to know is why was DSS involved in the first place. My nieces name was not on the child support order, only her older brother. DSS walked into the court and asked about her. The parents had to tell them the child was not living with either of them. At first DSS assumed the child was living with her mother. The only reason I could think they got involved is the mother went through them for child support. But I do not trust DSS.
Comment by fran — May 16, 2008 @ 5:15 am
Ok I’m Fustrated with the Washington state CPS system.. Lets see I lost my 2 kids Tab and Bubba Ray in Feb.2008 I dont do drugs.
I seperated from my husband and he had the children at his home. tab was Sexual assulted by a 27 year old man didnt tell her dad till the next afternoon then he took her to the hospital.. Were they did the sexual assult and called CPS and the POLICE so the kids were taken into custody… Tab has been in 6 different homes sense she has been in the states custody. Bubba has been moved 4 times.
Well lets see sense my kids have been in CPS custody. Bubba Ray came for a visit yesterday with Bruise on his arm that he has received while in a foster home. the state hasn’t moved him. Oh and then to top all that off his foster parents weren’t home my mom who provides transportation 3 times a week. Mondays wed and fridays
She sat at the foster home and waited over 2 hrs for the family to return home. She gave up after waiting the 2 hrs she left them a note on their other car and took Bubba home with her. She called me and left me a message. I told her to call the 800- Number for CPS and let them know what was going on.
I am very Frustrated with this system. I never beat my kids. And they took them away from me. To have them abused in a FOSTER HOME This is ok. Not in my eyes.
MY kids want to come home the STATE DONT give a shit. AND They have lied about every thing. I have lost my job, my kids and now they want to collect CHILD support.
LOL NOW I’M delivering phone books to try and make the rent what a F…..N joke oh ya 56.00 a check. Rent is 1435.00
I’m ready to give up all HOPE.
Comment by ***Chris**** — May 17, 2008 @ 6:45 pm
first of all i would like to say i found this site very helpfull and i wished i had known about it when my husband and i had to deal with cps almost a year ago. We had cps called on us by a social worker in the neonatal intensive care unit at st. josephs hospital in phoenix. our daughter was born very premature. she was 17 weeks early and weighed only 1lb. 3 ounces. She was born early because i have a very large fibroid on my right ovary and uterus that ended up pushing her out. after 2 days in the hospital i had to have an emergency c-section. it was an emotional rollercoaster. She spent 4 months in the nicu. she had to have surgery on her heart to close her pda and eye surgery because her retinas were starting to detach. it took almost 3 months just to get her to have formula because of digestive issues. and she ended up getting two staph infections. the social worker at st. josephs called cps on us claiming that at the time of her call that out of 180 days of our daughter being in the nicu we had only been there 20 times. and when we were there we didnt talk, touch our even hold our daughter. every time we went to the nicu we talked and touched our daughter. it took three months for us to be able to hold her because she had problems maintaning her oxygen levels and heat. but when we we could hold her we did. there was one week where i was not able to go up to the nicu because i had started hemmorraging and was on doctor ordered bedrest. But my husband and his mom went to see my daughter and i called every shift to make sure she was ok. When we told the cps worker this she said hemorraging was not a “good enough excuse” to not go to the nicu to see my daughter. she also stated that she didn’t feel comfortable sending such a fragile child home with people like us. which i found very insulting because i am a nurse and was more than qualified to take care of any special needs she needed when she came home. the only thing i know that saved us was one thing our digital camera. we had over 500 hundred pictures and videos of us holding,touching and talking to our daughter. each picture and video was time stamped down to the second of when it was taken. luckily we were able to bring our daughter home. but it was a fight. a week before she came home they had taken her off oxygen and her feeding tube and iv’s. two days before she came home they suddenly decided to put her back on oxygen and an apnea montior(montiors if she stops breathing and sounds an alarm). the day she came home we were supposed to leave the hospital at noon. we didn’t leave until 10 pm cause they were dragging their feet to release her. they kept telling us to go home and we could come back in the morning and get her. i told them im not leaving without my daughter so finally they had no choice but to release her to us. thanks to those idiots now every time i have to set up a therapist or specialist for my daughter they ask me to tell them about the cps case. which i explain and they just look at me like yeah sure i know your lying. it makes me so angry that my husband and i did nothing wrong and were put through this hell for no reason, cause when i watch the news and see that a child was murdered by someone who was a known abuser or molester, i say where was cps there, why were’nt they protecting those kids? the only answer i can come up with is cause their to busy finding “evidence” against the people who did nothing wrong. i would really like to go after the hospital and cps because i want our names cleared of all wrong doing. the problem is we don’t know what kind of lawyer to look for or even have the money for one. if by any chance someone knows can you please let me know somehow. we would greatly appreciate it.
Comment by tasha — May 19, 2008 @ 3:33 am
chris, contact washingtonfamiliesunited.org
Comment by christy — May 20, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
To Christy in West Virginia:
First of all when parents’ fight in front of their children, whether it be physical or verbal, it can be considered Emotional Abuse to them.
Second, it sounds to me that you are minimizing the Domestic Violence (DV). You wrote, “He put his hands around my neck not chocking me but to calm me down.”
Sorry, but if someone puts his hands around your neck, there is no doubt you are being choked. You are minimizing/denying the DV. In essence you are protecting your husband (perpetrator of DV), therefore, you may not be able to protect your children from him. You are less likely to obtain a restraining order and ask him to leave and seek out a DV program.
You wrote, “The kids started to hit him so he pushed my little girl off and told her to get outside then our little boy come and started hitting him with something and he grabbed him under the chin to get him to go out and play .”
When children get in the middle of a physical altercation, they are at great risk of being, not only emotionally harmed/traumatized, but are at greater risk of being physically harmed. There are many studies that show that when a man/woman is abusive to his/her spouse, there is a greater likelihood that he/she is physically abusive towards the children as well.
You wrote, “That got them involved I didnt press any charges cause he wasnt hurthing me and He would never hurt one of our kids.” Once again you are minimizing and protecting your husband instead of your children.
You wrote, “The CPS worker isnt letting him come back home and it has been 11 days so far.” What the CPS worker is doing is protecting your children from witnessing any further DV, which may cause them greater harm. It sounds that you were not willing to ask your husband to leave by your own accord, so that is why CPS did it.
You wrote, “we hardly ever fight and she started bringing up the past like 10 years ago I dont see how what happened 10 years ago is any of her business.” What she is doing is gathering collateral (ie. neighbors, teachers, family members, friends) information in order to find out how severe the DV is and how long this has been going on and actually It is her business because her job requires that she keep children safe.
You wrote, “this is crazy my kids are well taken care of and I take care of most of the kids in the neighborhood on a daily basis.” What is crazy is that you think that choking is not serious enough to warrant CPS intervention. Choking is severe DV and can render you unconscious or worse yet, dead. And you don’t think it’s crazy for your children to witness that? I hope the parents’ of those neighborhood kids you take care of on a daily basis are aware of your lack of parenting skills and lack of insight into DV. You would benefit from gaining an education on DV and it’s dynamics and how it negatively affects and impacts your children.
Think about it. I suggest you cooperate with your CPS worker and comply with what she recommends that you do because you are at risk of having your children removed. Don’t choose a man over your children. It sounds like your husband has some anger management issues.
Comment by Sinthia — May 21, 2008 @ 8:36 pm
To Chris from Washington:
You wrote, “tab was Sexual assulted by a 27 year old man didnt tell her dad till the next afternoon then he took her to the hospital.. Were they did the sexual assult and called CPS and the POLICE so the kids were taken into custody.”
CPS doesn’t just take children away because they have been sexually assaulted. There has to be a lot more to this story which you aren’t disclosing.
Usually, if a child has been sexually abused and the parents’ believe the child, and are willing to not allow the perpetrator to have contact with the child, then CPS leaves the child with the parents’ if they are appropriate and will probably refer the child/parents’ to sexual abuse therapy.
Who was the 27 year old man? Was he living with the children in the father’s home? Did the father believe Tab? Was he willing to kick the man out of his home? Was the father being protective? I have a bunch of questions and I don’t buy your story. Why didn’t CPS give you the children? There must be something going on with you as well.
Comment by Sinthia — May 21, 2008 @ 8:48 pm
I just have a few things about my situation and trust me I feel everyones pain and I know what it is your going through. Back in 2003 there was a call that was made by my husbands ex wife stating to CPS that my oldest son, who was 9 at the time and had just moved to our home 2 weeks earlier I might add, was molesting my husbands 4 yr old daughter, my stepdaughter.Both of my boys ages 9 and 6 were put through questioning by CPS. We hired an attorney and went to court to make a long story short, we got nothing.What we received was that my boys and my stepdaughter were and are not presently allowed to be within 500 ft of one another per a court order. There was a medical exam of my stepdaughter with no findings, but we were constantly told over and over that there doesn’t have to be physical proof for sexual abuse to happen and that my sons fingers were so small there wouldn’t be any anyway. For 4 years we lived with this until last year when I found out that once again my husbands ex wife had contaced my ex husband in an effort for him to gain custody of my 10 yr old son. For 7 mths we battled it out in a court room and with home studies and social workers from CPS crawling all over us. In the long run it was ruled I was unfit to keep custody of my 10 yr old but the other ones were alright to stay with me. He had lived with me all of his life without his biological father around.My husband had raised him since he was 2/12 and he had met his real father for the first time the summer before the filing. I will tell you that since my son has had to move to his fathers house in Virginia and I remain here in Texas is the most painful thing I have ever had to deal with. It amazes me that these people who one refers to as CPS or social workers would help in a case for someone to gain custody of a child they had seen 2 summers of his life and take him away from everything he has ever known including a sister and a brother. They seem to want to make it a point to destroy families lives and rip them apart.In the meantime we struggle with the after effects of 5 yrs dealing with people and cases like some of the ones I read about on here. We are currently in bankruptcy, we are loosing our home but our finances are getting better. It takes a very long time to pull yourself up when you are hit that hard out of the blue. That is my story and what I have been through. That’s what has lead me here. I want to do anything I can do to stop the practices of CPS and I’m always here to listen if anyone needs to talk.
Thank you for listening
A in TX
Comment by Amy — May 21, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
Sinthia, your comments leave me in no doubt that you are a social worker. You fit their mold to a tee. In other words, you were molded easily and believe any allegations against, not only parents but anyone. It makes you feel good to judge people and to put them down. In your own sick way, you are happy to put families through hell. Let me speak for you, now. “How dare you not do what I say. How dare you disagree with me. I will make your life hell. I will show you. I hold your children in my hands. I am not to be questioned, or else.” And, finally, ” If you want to keep your children out of foster care or ever want to see them again, you will do exactly as I say.” Now, tell me, does that sound somewhat familiar? Don’t respond. Shut up and go away.
Comment by daaronad — May 21, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
Does anyone else agree with my synopsis of a social worker? Please, rebut if you disagree.
Comment by daaronad — May 21, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
Social workers are programmed to believe that ALL parents are abusers. That is how they get their funding (and I believe Bonuses) for the more kids they remove. Have y’all seen those new Amber ALert commercials that have vehicles that have stickers that read “I’m a Pedophile” and “I’ve just abducted an 8 year old”? I’d love to get me hands on some & put them on DHS Nazis cars. HAHA
Comment by Susan — May 22, 2008 @ 6:07 am
daaronad - - I agree with what you have to say about Sinthia. It seems to me that she is quick to point out the faults of the mother and stay focused on that, which from my past experience is typical of a CPS social worker. It’s all about pointing the finger instead of trying to ” actually” help.
Comment by Amy — May 22, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Ok to answer the questions My husband Tab’s dad was a sleep that nite that Tab got raped by the 27 year old man. My husband was a sleep down stairs and Tab went up stairs to go to sleep with her niece and nephew, she was assulted in the bedroom where a 1 year old girl and a 4 year old slept.
She told the police and sexual assault people that when she went to bed her pj’s were on when she woke up to use the restroom, she found her pj’s were taken off of her.
She then went down stairs used the restroom and went back upstairs where this 27 year old found his way back up the stairs and took her clothes back off of her.
She didnt tell him to stop or any thing. And the oldest child had a party and this was one of her boyfriends friends and they wont give him up at all.
Comment by ***Chris**** — May 22, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
Also there was drinking involved that nite and her older sister and father allowed her to drink. I my self had moved out of that house. I did take the children with me when i had moved out and i did allow them to go over there.
So I guess I am to blame for allowing them to go over there after I had talked to everyone and said no drinking and no staying up late.
But ya know lesson learned and I am living with it every day. ‘
No body has to tell me I was a bad parent for allowing them to go over there. But the state contuines to lie. I am to have visits 3 times a week, ya well not next week I am only allowed 2.
And this still allows my 11 year old to be abused while in foster care. To come for a visit with bruises on him.
Comment by ***Chris**** — May 22, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
My heart goes out to all of you. I have been there and survived but my life has never been the same.
Social workers (CPS) are indeed programmed to believe that you are guilty. From the moment you are reported, as far as they’re concerned, you are a child abuser. It doesn’t matter if you live in a mansion or a dump, if you’re employed or jobless, if you’re college-educated or didn’t finish high school. You, in their eyes, are guilty. Don’t waste time arguing with them that you are innocent and someone is telling lies about you. Get a lawyer. That was my first big mistake when it happened to me. I reasoned that since I was innocent, I didn’t need a lawyer. Wrong! My second big mistake was in trying to cooperate with CPS by answering their questions. I spilled my guts and it went against me big time. They took everything I said and twisted it so that it sounded different. I was extremely upset and couldn’t stop crying, and they wrote down that I was emotionally out of control and possibly suicidal. I kept insisting that I had not abused my 2 year old daughter and they said I was defensive and hostile. I said that whoever accused me was lying and I would see that they got what was coming to them (meaning that I would sue them for slander). They said I was potentially violent.
Realize that ANYONE can pick up the phone and call CPS and make a referral against you, any time. They can say they only THINK you may be abusing your child. That’s all it takes to bring CPS to your front door. Most false accusations are made out of retaliation. Someone wants to get even with you for whatever reason. Sometimes accusations are made because of genuine concern that a child may be suffering abuse. Remember, the caller doesn’t have to see the child being abused, he/she only has to have a reasonable suspicion that abuse is occurring. But IMO, revenge is the main reason.
Although I can’t prove it, I know the person who accused me was my across-the-street neighbor. No one else could have done it. She was in her mid-thirties, extremely obese, a few years older than me, couldn’t have children, and was a very bitter person because of it. It started after she had been in my home twice in the same week. Once to use the phone because hers was out of order and once to pick up a package that UPS had left with me since she wasn’t home. Both times my daughter was in the middle of a temper tantrum and was screaming and sobbing. To someone who doesn’t have children or has never been around them, a “terrible twos” meltdown can seem horrifying. The child will scream and sob like she has been beaten half to death. I think that after this happened, my neighbor started thinking that something was wrong. She started coming over nearly every day on very flimsy pretexts. It was summer and we didn’t have air conditioning, so I kept the front door opened during the day. The screen door was kept locked. I’d walk into the living room and my neighbor would be standing on the front porch, not knocking but just watching me through the screen door. Once I was crying on the phone to a friend and looked up and my neighbor was standing there on the porch. My husband and I were separated and I was lonely and miserable, so I’d called a friend. The neighbor also started questioning me. She wanted to know how long I’d been separated, if he was supporting us financially, if I ever allowed my daughter to play with other children. I considered these questions nosy and none of her business, but I was raised to be polite to people so I answered them. I thought maybe she was trying to be friends. But something about her made me want to draw up and back off. She said once that she couldn’t have children and her husband refused to consider adoption and that children were the most precious things in the world and needed to be protected. All true but something about the way she said it bothered me. Once she asked suddenly “how did she get that bruise on her leg?” Her tone was accusing and I didn’t like it, so I asked her why she wanted to know. Actually, my daughter had fallen while playing in the yard. What active two year old doesn’t have little bruises on their legs from running and playing? The bruise was about the size of a dime. But I started feeling very uneasy. The woman wasn’t acting like she wanted to be my friend. So I started keeping the front door closed and didn’t open it when she knocked. A week or so later is when CPS came to my door. After they started questioning me, I realized exactly what had happened. My neighbor thought I was abusing my child and hiding it by not answering the door, so she reported me. I could not remain calm, I broke down, and that made me look very guilty. I told them that my child was active and played hard and sometimes did have a bruise or two on her shins. I also said that she was a typical two year old and had occasional tantrums, but she was not being abused. In hindsight, I think if I could have remained calm and kept my mouth shut, they might not have opened a file on me. The “evidence” was very flimsy and circumstantial. The CPS worker examined my child and found no bruises, so they didn’t remove her from my home. A week later, I received a call that they were opening a file on me and I would be receiving weekly unannounced visits from a social worker. I was told that I had to attend counseling at the local mental health center. I was ordered to a meeting at the CPS office to go over my “plan” with various people. They said I was clinically depressed, possibly suicidal, possibly violent, and paranoid. I can’t tell you what it was like to sit in that room and hear all that crap about myself. Yes, I was depressed because my marriage was ending, yes, I was angry over being falsely accused, but I had not ever abused my child. I was told that my file would remain open for three to six months and that if I stopped going to counseling, my child would likely be removed from the home.
Now came the worst part of it. I had no idea when the social worker was coming, so every day I got up at dawn to clean my house. I dusted and ran the vacuum each day, made sure the living room was picked up, and scoured the bathroom. The cleanliness of my house had not been an issue but I was taking no chances. I never slept more than four hours a night. I couldn’t eat and started losing weight. I cried and cried because no one would believe in my innocence. I felt so powerless and trapped and isolated. We had only lived in that town for two years and my family of origin was too far away to be of any help. The counselor was actually very nice. He was about to retire and said he was sick of dealing with CPS and having people forced into counseling. He said CPS wasn’t trained to assess whether or not I was clinically depressed. He said I was a good mother, after I brought my daughter with me one day. He saw no problems with our interaction with each other.
It might have ended at three months if I hadn’t done what I did next. I hadn’t seen or spoken to my neighbor since it had happened. This reinforced my belief that she had been the one who reported me. One day when I pulled my car into the driveway after dropping my daughter off at her father’s, my neighbor and her husband were out in their front yard. Something in me just exploded and I got out of my car and walked to the edge of my driveway. They looked up and saw me, and I flipped them off. I shouted “Are you happy now? You’ve made my life a living hell, are you happy now?” Then I went into my house and slammed the door. I know I shouldn’t have done it. Any display of temper was bound to go against me. But I couldn’t stand it any longer. My good name had been taken from me, my life had been turned inside out, and I was furious. Two days later, I got a call from the social worker. She said there had been another referral on me, that I was slapping and punching my daughter. I was told to bring her to their office immediately. This time I was truly terrified. I was afraid they were going to take her away. But all the did was look at her, checking for bruises, and then asked me what was going on. I told them I knew it was my neighbor who had been accusing me and told them about what had occured two days earlier. I said I had been wrong to flip them off and yell at them but I was so sick of being falsely accused and felt that I could no longer stand it. The social worker said well, that’s all, you can leave now. I asked if my case would be kept open longer and she said “probably, yes.”
I talked to my counselor and he said that CPS had likely known the second referral was false but they had to check it out. He said if they really believed it, they wouldn’t have called me down there, giving me a chance to run, they would have been at my house with the police. He said I needed to leave my neighbors alone, that any attempt at retaliation against them would only get me into more trouble.
Finally, after six months, my case was closed. I was so happy that the nightmare was over and I immediately saw a lawyer about the possibility of a civil suit against my neighbor. But he advised me not to pursue it, that if she really thought I’d been abusing my child, she was protected by law. He said I had no way to prove she’d acted maliciously, even on the second referral. He said that my actions toward them in the yard could be construed as violent and threatening and if I’d set foot on their property I could have been arrested for trespassing. He said “I know it’s hard, but you have to try and move on, for your daughter’s sake if not your own.” He also advised me to move, which I later did.
What I went through is nothing compared to some of the stories on this website. It was a long time ago, during the witch hunts of the 1980’s when it suddenly became common to report people for suspected child abuse. But it changed my life. It affected the way I raised my daughter, the way I feel about myself even today. I still feel intense anger toward my former neighbor for putting together a case against me out of a few temper tantrums and a bruise. For years afterward, I’d jump whenever a strange car turned into my driveway. For a long time, I left my daughter with someone when I went shopping, to prevent someone misconstruing a temper tantrum. I was afraid to reprimand her in front of anyone. I didn’t trust people, and frequently changed my phone number. My problems with insomnia have never gone away. The joy I had in becoming a mother was gone. It wasn’t until my daughter went to middle school that I began to feel safe again. This woman took so much from me. Did she hate me because I had a child and she didn’t? I will never know.
I wish all of you the very best of luck in getting your children/grandchildren back.
Comment by Judy — May 23, 2008 @ 8:14 am
Well, for those of you who have not heard my story. My daughter falsly accused my husband of molesting her in February of 2007. Two of my children were removed by CPS and I was pregnant with my third at the time. Thankfully they were given to my mother and not foster care. My husband was arrested, spent two and half days in jail. Since then my son has been allowed to return home after about 5 months with my mom. We now have a beautiful baby daughter who is now 10 months old. My daughter has changed her story many times but will not admit that she made it up, she just tells different versions. Yesterday we found out that my husbad has been indicted and we are going to go to court. What kind of world do we live in where a man’s life can be absolutly destroyed based on one accusation? We didnt even know it had went to the grand jury, we werent notified. How fair is that, he didnt get to present his side only the prosecutions. I have lost all faith in the government. If he is found guilty of this I will lose all faith in mankind. Please tell me there are people out there who look at an entire case and not just parts of it. Please tell a jury will be able to see through my daughters BS.
Comment by Jodie — May 23, 2008 @ 10:24 am
Judy, your story hit home with me. One of the main players in my case (1989) was my ex-husband’s girlfriend, an obese barren woman who wanted my children. In fact, she wanted to adopt my fourth child at birth. I refused three times - the last time, I was angry at this stupid request. She retaliated by writing statements full of lies to CPS - one for her to sign and one for my ex to sign. She called them “affidavits” but they weren’t signed under penalty of perjury.
Comment by Linda — May 23, 2008 @ 10:29 am
I am so sorry for what you went through Judy. Our stories sound very similiar. It was the across the street neighbor who narked on me cuz I yelled at my son, who was 2 at the time & shut the door, leaving him outside for LESS THAN a minute! CPS started out being all ‘nice’ but people need to realize the evil snakes they are. My husband & I did hire 2 lawyers (at the lawyers insistence). That was STUPID. The attorneys here in this small corrupt town work as GALS for DHS & gave us the wrong advice. Our 3 kids are in my mother & her girlfriend’s custody. They invented lies about my oldest daughter & snatched my baby (I was pregnant & didn’t know it at the time this incident happened). My kids were NEVER abused, but they actively pursued this case like we were the worst abusers in the world! The deviant judge in my case ruled for DHS just because ‘there MIGHT be abuse’…Where is JUSTICE? God Bless you and all the innocent parents and children who are victims of this monster.
Comment by Susan — May 24, 2008 @ 6:10 am
daaronad, you sound so intelligent. “Shut up and go away”. Is that how you talk to your kids? I’m sure you must be a great parent.
Susan, you think we get bonuses for the kids that CPS removes? How silly. Do some research. If anything, it costs money to place children into protective custody.
Jodie, it is truly sad when a mother chooses to believe a molestor over her own child and that should be the reason you lose faith in all mankind.
Comment by Sinthia — May 24, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
No Sinthia, I believe when daaronad said “Shut up and go away.” he was talking to you! Come on now, do what you do best and work your talent so you can twist it around and accuse him/her of yelling at his/her kids like that. Then go in front of the judge and tell them why you removed his/her kids and why they were in imminent danger. I should be a caseworker, the job seems fairly easy. I could be trained at making stuff up, having no emotion and believing everyone I encounter is guilty BUT I could never be trained and prepared to tear families apart and sometimes based on the vengeance of another human being.
Comment by Meghan — May 25, 2008 @ 6:59 am
Synthia, If you all DON’T get any bonuses, then why do you actively pursue cases where there was NEVER any abuse or severe neglect, that were just based entirely on hearsay and false allegations???
Comment by Susan — May 25, 2008 @ 7:48 am
Thank God the truth will prevail in Texas! Those women NEED their children back! CPS should take a lesson from them, to ’stay sweet’, but that’s kinda hard when you’re reptilian!
Comment by Susan — May 27, 2008 @ 6:43 am
Dear Judy
Thank you for sharing your story. I know how you feel. It’s been over a year for us, and I still look out my window, waiting… The pain never goes away. These people who use the system go on with their lives with no remorse. God Bless Fran
Comment by fran — May 27, 2008 @ 8:54 am
I have to bring up something I remembered from a training I took ten years ago. (Daycare providers are required to take some many hours of training and classes per year). This training was given by DSS. The woman was telling the providers how to spot abuse. Well my red flags went up when she metioned “dark circles under the childrens eyes, as a sign of abuse”. I remember disagreeing with her beacuse these circles can also be “allergy shiners” that is common with children suffering from allergies. She then moved onto mentally handicaped children claiming that these children were prone to abuse beacuse their parents were only caring for them for the SSI, well once again I jumped in and said, “I have a autistic son and I don’t recieve SSI and he is not abused he is well loved”. I have to tell you the other woman there were buying into what she had to say. I got up and left the training, I waited outside for her because I thought maybe she just did not understand what she way telling these woman. She was very angry with me and said that it was her Job to inform people to call CPS when ever they felt a child was being abused. But her examples were not that of abuse.
Comment by fran — May 27, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
Sinthia, You made the comment “we” dont get bonuses. As we all suspected we have a CPS spy in our midst. Good thing you don’t know my last name or my family may be threatened further because I seem to have ruffled your feathers. Let me tell you something, you do not know me , my story, or my situation. Your comments only proves further that this type of allegation is Guilty Until Proven innocent. And it is people like you that give disturbed young people the idea that when they dont like the rules they can simply make up a lie. Do you have children? I certaintly hope so, because I’m sure they must have the perfect parent. One that is extremely judgemental of those they know nothing about. This is a forum for those wounded and in need of an outlet and support, your banter and unnecessary commentary is not needed or welcome here. Find someone else to terrorize. Oh, is that an actual abused child I hear crying that slipped through the cracks again. Go do your job, missing the real abuse and wasting tax payer money chasing after families that dont need your involvment.
Comment by Jodie — May 27, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
For those who come here to tell us how wonderful CPS is and how many kids they help. Please read:
County children’s advocate arrested in girl’s assault
Posted: May 27, 2008 07:00 PM CDT
Police: Videos show abuse
Child advocate arrested
AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) — A man trusted to help children during a difficult time has been accused of sexually violating one.
Billy Dan Carroll, 53, was arrested for sexual assault Sunday after an 8-year-old girl said she had been victimized.
Carroll has been a Travis County court-appointed children’s advocate for four years.
“This individual has been through an FBI fingerprint check, national criminal databases, state of Texas criminal databases, the CPS central registry, those are all of the sources that we can check on every potential volunteer,” said Laura Wolf, executive director of Court Appointed Special Advocates of Travis County. “This particular criminal background check came back clean with nothing to give us any cause for concern. We also talk to personal references. This individual had glowing references.”
Police said they believe the girl is not Carroll’s only victim, and he may have assaulted more children and even some adults.
They said they believe he worked to put himself in positions of trust, serving in his church’s youth group and as a worker for CASA.
“Mr. Carroll has no record of anything — if you would have checked into him, you would have found him to be the neighbor next door,” said Sgt. Brian Loyd. “He would be somebody that you would never, ever in your entire life would suspect of doing anything like this.”
Police said Carroll assaulted the girl in his home on McLoughlin Point.
Court papers showed the girl was brave enough to speak up. She was once a court-appointed client, along with her two sisters and brother. They had been visiting Carroll the day of the sexual assault.
“While there, Mr. Carroll sexually assaulted the 8-year-old,” Loyd said. “She made an outcry to her 16-year-old sister, who in turn called their mother.”
When police got to Carroll’s home, they found more than they expected.
“We found video of two separate adult women that we believe didn’t consent to sexual acts,” Loyd said.
That’s why police are speaking out against the alleged acts of this man. They want him to answer for all those he may have victimized.
Austin police have asked other victims to come forward. For more information, call the Austin Police Department’s Sex Crimes Tip Line at (512) 974-5095.
For parents of children who have been in Carroll’s care, that may mean having difficult conversations, but they are important.
Bail was set at $2 million.
Comment by Jodie — May 28, 2008 @ 10:06 am
may 27th/10:06am AUSTIN TX..CPS in this incident doesn’t appear to be an acronym for child protective services. Once again, we have a wolf in “sheeps clothing” he is representing as a protector yet is really a CHILD PREDITOR SCUMBAG, preying on the innocence that we as parents have no control over, should we fall victim, and VICTIM IS ACCURATE, to the government agency designated to serve and PROTECT our children. How can anyone in the government expect a citiizen to agree that CPS is good, when the PEDIFILE is hiding amongst the ranks? EMPHATICALLY MORTIFIED IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCENSUS. When and where is it better, to VIOLATE? BAD BAD SYSTEM.
LETS HEAR IT FOLKS, HOME OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE? OR IS IT , THE KIDNAPPED, BROKEN AND ENSLAVED? FEEDBACK ANYONE?
Comment by shelley pressler — May 28, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
CPS workers have the perfect opportunity to be child molesters. Just see AFRA’s statement about it being the perfect pervert’s pumpkin patch. There is also a story about one of their own on the AFRA front page. These ‘wonderful’ child ‘protecters’ are NEVER tested for psychological problems before they get hired, NEVER randomly drug tested, and most have NO license. What is wrong with this picture???
Comment by Susan — May 29, 2008 @ 12:47 am
I was recently informed that the person who falsely accused us may in fact have been trying to get a case number to give to the hospital to hide the fact her child was injuried. (This child had broken her thigh bone). Recently I was informed she said that that it happened at my daycare. Wouldn’t the hospital call CPS themselves? I now believe that she told the hospital that she would report the incident herself and then reported a bunch of lies in order to get a case number for the hospital. Has anyone ever heard of this happening before?
Comment by fran — May 29, 2008 @ 6:43 am
I am signing in for the first time. I am making this comment for your prayers support and hope. My son lost his children because while he was incarcerated his wife “fell down, without his support” she had a baby without knowing that she was pregnant. They gave me the baby and her older son to “be temporary placement” for them while they work “the plan” which was ludicrous. After having them for 1 year they ran a background check on my boyfriend that theyalready knew about. Something came back from 35 years ago when he was 18 he is now 56 and they turned that into suspicion of drug use. They took my Grandbabies from Pre-school and demanded that I drug screen (based on someone elses background) which I refused to do until they show me documentation as to why they removed my Grandbabies from my care after a year and a half. They have denied me visits they have denied my daughter and Grandpa from visiting saying about my daughter that she is not immediate family, thouhg she helped raise the boy while my son her brother was incarcerated on an unrelated incident, Grandpa has not been able to visit since Feb. of 2007. Every lawyer we approached said they violated my rights but would not do anything for me. Cps has said that they received a report that there might be drug use in my home which is totally false. Has anyone ever gone through what I am going through. I miss my Grandchildren soo much and want them back. The court ruled on a Motion to Intervene by myself and the Grandpa based on and I quote ” There is no substantial proof that the Paternal Grandparents had any substantial relationship with these children, Motion Denied.” We have a lawyer however he never calls us and we still havn’t been allowed to visit our Grandchilden, the CPS worker has testified that evry time any of the familly members would visit that the foster parents has to work extra hard to bring their” traumatic behavior under control” impressing that the visits with our Grandbabies was causing them to be traumatized. Again I ask Has this ever happened to anyone else. Please Pray, Help, Give Guidence.
Rebecca
Comment by Rebecca Young — May 29, 2008 @ 9:34 am
To Fran,
I have heard that daycares and workers within have been told that if they don’t make a comment or call cps that they might be fired. That is what happened to me regarding my grandchildren.. I made a comment that i was to be drugscreened and this person responded to me by offering to pee in a cup for me, which I told her “OH no absolutely not, that is against the law.” Apparently there was a Supervisor hiding in a closet listening to our conversation and after I left told her if she didn’t call CPS she would be fired. Her husbanc called me and my Boyfriend that evening and threatened to kill us both if she got fired.
Comment by Rebecca Young — May 29, 2008 @ 9:41 am
Dear Rebecca
I run a home daycare. I could only fire myself. But we are considered mandated reporters, however I’ve been in the D/C busniess since 1991 and have never had to call CPS. I have a disabled son (now 25) and I have had the school call CPS on me for “not providing proper medication to control behavior”. (He is autistic). He was on medication but medications work for a time and then stop working, at which point you look for a new medication. (It’s an endless cycle) The teacher wanted a medication “That worked ASAP!”. Well if there had been one, we would have tried it. Anyhow the school is also a madated reporter, so they used that as a reason to call CPS. However you need to think before you act. The school’s call went no where, because we were doing all we could to control his behavior, in the end they (the school had to pay out big time for a program that met his needs). So Yes daycare center/providers are madated reporters but I would hope that they would not abuse that.
Comment by fran — May 29, 2008 @ 10:50 am
Dear Rebecca
Maybe the children are acting out because they are upset to see Grand pa and Grand ma leave. Maybe the foster care home needs to consider that they are children and of corse they are going to have behavior issues because they miss their family. I would put it back in their lap.
Comment by fran — May 29, 2008 @ 10:56 am
Dear Rebecca
It might be time for a new lawyer. I was told my rights were voilated as well, but I could not find a lawyer willing to take on CPS. However as far as your visitation rights, if your lawyer is not helping you, you may need to look for a new one. My heart goes out to you and your family. The only reason I even had a lawyer was beacuse our children bowled together, otherwise I am affraid we would not even have one.
Comment by fran — May 29, 2008 @ 11:04 am
Texas Supreme Court ruled today that the children ( or at least some of them at this time) from the polygamist ranch in Texas are to be returned to their parents since CPS wrongfully removed them without enough eveidence. It only took them two months. While I do not condone the lifestyle they have not been given a fair chance. Finally someoner has come to their senses. But is it too late, I wonder what kind of irrepairable damage has been done to the kids.
Comment by Jodie — May 29, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Dear Jodie
This is a start, maybe other states will now take a look at CPS and the way they operate. I am happy for those children that get to go home. I also do not condone the lifesytle, but the kids were innocent. CPS did not follow any proper procedures. (if they even know any) Did you see on TV when one of the mothers asked to see the warrant? They said they did not have to show it??? I am so happy that CPS was exposed.Hopefully other states will sit up and take notice.
Comment by fran — May 29, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
donpaulson.net gives mothers access to quality to att across the us that can help agianst the new nazis of the us we killed hitler why do we let this agency exist in our land
Comment by donald paulson — May 29, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Shelley pressler, KDNAPPED, BROKEN, ENSLAVED, MOLESTED RAPED, AND MURDERED that almost covers it.
Comment by christy — May 30, 2008 @ 10:56 am
Rebecca
From my experience, and what I have been told by local attorneys, “We are all retained by DHS and we have to make a living in this town”. If you are going to hire an attorney, hire one a few counties away. I don’t want to get you down, as you are feeling lost as it is. Stop trying to please them. They will mislead you. You did the right thing by not agreeing to their demands. Let them know that you are not going to be walked on and that you and your grandchildren have rights.
Comment by daaronad — May 31, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
Every state is conducting a rally at their state capitol on/ or around Fathers Day. It’s not focused on fathers. It’s focused on the injustices done to familes, by DHS and the Family Courts. I plead for all of you to attend and to bring as many people with you as you can. We see the injustice and corruptness. Let’s do something about it. In Oklahoma, It starts June 13. Please, attend your state rally. You will gather much information, support, and new friends.
Comment by daaronad — May 31, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
I’ve said it before, CPS/DHS directly monitors this sight. It should be common knowledge to all.
Comment by daaronad — May 31, 2008 @ 9:24 pm
To Sinthia,
You do fit the mold. You judge anyone who does not agree with you. You assume the worst. What if every parent that you came across as a client wasn’t a stereotypical “Child Abuser or Child Neglector.” What if the tables were turned. What would you do if you were accused of something minial that threatened you losing your children. How would you react? I was accused of a false allegation. I was told by the social worker,” If I want to keep my children out of a foster home, I had better give my full cooperation.” I agreed with a safety plan. By doing that, my children went through ten months of hell. My oldest daughter was raped twice, while I tried to work the safety plan. I begged and pleaded with DHS to help and even the supervisor told me,” It’s your responsability.” DHS told me that my children fall in a “Catch 22″, where they cannot get help. You can only imagine how I reacted when I heard that. I tried to cooperate with their “safety plan”. Ten months, I tried. DHS came in our lives, destroyed it and were gone. Leaving me to pick up the pieces. My children are back home now, and have been for quite some time, because I had enough. It’s my fault that my daughter was raped while working DHS’s “safety plan”. It’s my fault that she lived in eleven different homes in a ten month time period. It’s my fault, because, I believed that DHS was there to help families. It’s my fault, because, I believed that they would see that they made a mistake. I was wrong. Not only the trauma that my children went through, I am fortunate enough to still be here today. Imagine what it’s like to have your children taken away from you because of a false allegation. How long could you deal with it, knowing that the people that you believed were there to help children and families were the ones who caused it? I brought my children back home, on my own, against DHS’s recommendations, because I researched and learned the truth of how they get away with what they do. I haven’t heard from DHS since then. I guarantee, I will not stop with my advice and activism until DHS is either abolished or MAJORLY REFORMED!!!
Comment by daaronad — May 31, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
To Sinthia,
Like a fool, I called the child abuse hotline, after I found out of my daughter being raped while in DHS. I asked for help and went from one lead to another. I didn’t know any better, then. I was asking for help from the same people who direct these calls to my local DHS. I gave him the name and number of the case worker, and I was told that he would have him call me back, immediately. That call NEVER came. The same worker is the one who told me that I had better do everything that DHS required of me. This is a different worker that told me “If I want to keep my children out of a foster home, I had better give her my full cooperation.” The latter worker slipped and told me what I had supposedly said that was documented on my file on his computer . The original worker put this in. It was a complete lie. He no longer works there. This got me to questioning. What else goes on? I learned that this social worker was fired/let go from a local police department for falsifying documents. I learned this from the same attorney who told me that” We have to live in this town.” Her father is probably the most tenured police officer in this area. Coincidentally, her husband is, also, a police officer in this town. This kind of corruptness has become an accepted norm. I’m determined to stop it, especially when it destroys families.
Comment by daaronad — May 31, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
We work for the defense here in Southern Oregon and can always use ideas to help our clients. We just recieved a new case where mom & dad’s hose was noted as messy and dad was working on his truck out front while the kids were inside alone. Thank you for any input.
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Comment by Timothy J. Martinez — June 1, 2008 @ 5:58 am
Fran, thank-you for your advice and support, Linda thank-you for your site. I am still trying to seek an attorney, the one I have found wants 3,000.oo down that is just to start. I am short on that kind of money. I was wondering if you or anyone could direct me to a site or send me a link on the OHIO Revised Code & Rights pertaining to the Children and parents and grandparents rights. Tomorrow my Grandson turns 3 and his father is extremely discouraged and depressed as we all are. But every day I wake up I look up and I pray to God in Heaven that he protect my Grandbabies and watches over them until I can have them back. God Bless all of you and I will put my money where my mouth is….Keep believing in the Word of God, as it does say, I will return your Children to their own land and bring them back to you. It also says the children will suffer. Fight the Good Fight and Keep the Faith.
Thank-You, Rebecca
Comment by Rebecca Young — June 2, 2008 @ 8:02 am
I am here because CPS has been given way too much power over our children. They are in the schools,they are in the churches,they are in the doctor’s office, but the main thing they do is legally steal children and sell them for a monthly wage. Especially in the state of Texas. They do not care if the child is ill and has had only one care giver in their life. They do care if you are innocent and they know it, it is about the money. They build a case on your ignorance to them and run with it. You are guilty until you prove your innocense. They choose how long before they decide your child can return home. If they had to actually support our children as we do there would be a lot less chidren removed from their homes. They would actually investigate your case. In my case the child in question is 12 years old and lied. She is foster care until I complete a list of things they want me to do. The best part of this is the allegations are not even on me. They had to invent a case and lie to remove her from my care. Believe me they do lie, if it were us we would be fined for lying under oath. They can get by with almost anything including baby stealing. I can not believe that all these things actually go on in our system. Until now I was very ignorant to CPS and what they are actually about. They are not there for you are your child. Everyone needs to read this web sight including CPS agencies. Maybe they will loose some sleep at night as all of these parents who have lost their children do. I know in a month I have not slept much at all, nor do I eat well. No one should have this much power over your family. I am sure they do read this web and print your comments but as long as your honest and it comes from the heart what can they do? Freedom of speech we have not been robbed of yet.
Comment by Sherri Eckert — June 3, 2008 @ 5:18 am
All posters from Michigan and others. I wrote the Colemans story and did massive postings in order to get this story out. Please contact me at calling_for_angels@yahoo.com. I am interested in networking with folks in order to slay this dragon!
I am in the Lansing Michigan area.
The Colemans lost their fight for their precious babes.
Of course the judge was angry because the Colemans reported the bruises, scratches and burn marks on the girls. The foster family, who were in control of the girls at the time, has reportedly lost their license!
It is my understanding that one of the social workers has been fired as well.
However, the judge and tainted jury decided that the Colemans were guilty of beating the 6 year old with a belt.
Robert Coleman maintains that the only punishment that the 6 year old ever got was an open handed slap on the butt for risking her safety or the safety of her 2 year old sister.
At a supervised visit, the 6 year old was asking poignant questions about sex. Her questions and the fact that she had bruises on her elbows and ankles indicate to me that she was tied up and probably raped. WHILE IN FOSTER CARE!
The social workers tried desperately to prove that Robert had molested the 6 year old. Both girls were repeatedly subjected to vaginal exams.
The exams showed possible molestation only after the girls were in foster care!
Both girls were put under general anesthesia and subjected to extensive dental work. The 6 year old Caitlyn, had at least 6 silver crowns put onto her baby teeth. I do not know what work was done on the 2 year old.
Both girls had dentist appointments scheduled for a day or so after Child and Family Services of Michigan SWAT teamed and terrified and stole them. The girls had to go through this frightening procedure without the comfort of their mom and dad.
Imagine that!
Interestingly enough, I did a little look see at the Child and Family Services of Michigan’s website and at the bottom of the page there is a subsidiary insurance company that this so called private for profit non profit agency owns!
Yes! Private for profit non profit agency! That is how it was described when I called Child and Family Services of Michigan to ask a few questions.
This agency profits from ADOPTION AND (WHAT APPEARS TO BE TO ME) MEDICAL PROCEDURES AND OTHER COURT ORDERED PARENTING SERVICES.
Directly below is a cut and paste from the page.
http://www.cfsm.org/memberagencies.htm
Member Agencies
Child and Family Services of Michigan, Inc., also functions as an administrative resource for local member agencies, offering consultation, coordination, evaluation, administration and development. Our statewide focus includes member agency sites in Adrian, Alpena, Holland, Jackson, Lansing, Marquette, Midland, Benton Harbor and Traverse City servicing all counties in Michigan.
Child and Family Services of Michigan, Inc., State Office
21577 University Park Drive
Okemos, Michigan 48864
Family Counseling and Children’s Services of Lenawee County
220 North Main Street
Adrian, Michigan 49221
Child & Family Services of Northeast Michigan, Inc.
1044 US-23 North
P.O. Box 516
Alpena, Michigan 49707
Child & Family Services, Capital Area
4287 Five Oaks Drive
Lansing, MI 48911
Pathways MI
412 Century Lane
Holland, MI 49423
Family Service & Children’s Aid
330 W. Michigan Avenue
P.O. Box 6128
Jackson, Michigan 49201
Family and Children’s Service of Midland
1714 Eastman Avenue
Midland, Michigan 48640
Child & Family Services of Southwestern Michigan, Inc.
2450 South M-139
Benton Harbor, Michigan 49022
Child and Family Services of Northwestern Michigan
3785 Veterans Drive
Traverse City, Michigan 49684
and
3434 Harbor-Petoskey Road
(M-119)
Harbor Springs, Michigan 49740
Child and Family Services of the Upper Peninsula, Inc.
706 Chippewa Square
Marquette, MI 49855
SUBSIDIARIES
Michigan Specialty Insurance Agency, Inc.
2157 University Park Drive
Okemos, Michigan 48864
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It is about the money folks. Social workers and judges have a financial interest in these group foster care homes and adoption agencies!!!! They also have money invested in the parenting program providers such as anger management and psychological services.
The money trail is the clay foot of the entire system. EXPOSE EXPOSE EXPOSE
I urge you all to take a look into the agencies involved with the meat grinder and see who is profiting off of our children and families misery.
Janet, the girl’s mom told me that the girls had beautiful teeth and now that the state has put thousands of dollars into their teeth, they are coming to visitation with bad breath and scummy teeth! The foster parents are not taking care of the girls.
Robert Coleman said that they look like little rap singers!
The girls have been through 5 foster homes since they were taken in April. The judge cited that it was because the Colemans were interfering.
Each time that they moved the girls, they moved them another hour further away. The excuse was that there were no foster homes available in Gogebic County!
The only interference from the Colemans with the foster parents was reporting the abuse from the first foster care family!
Anyone who has studied the system knows that this is what they do. They move the children around. Some foster kids will go through as many as 70 foster homes! That way everybody gets paid and everybody gets a piece of the kid!
Is it no wonder that Michigan had over 325 children missing from foster care? The SYSTEM lost well over 300 kids!
Florida who is even worse lost well over 800 children from the foster care system. KIDS ARE MISSING IN ALL STATES–THOUSANDS OF THEM!
WHERE IN THE HELL ARE ALL THE KIDS DISAPPEARING TO???????
This case needs a lot of public outcry.
This case can do good for all children as the Colemans have extensive tapes which captured lies and deceit on the part of the system.
The Colemans are appealing.
Anyone who would like to help please write a statement to the newspaper that is reporting the story.
http://www.ironwoodglobe.com/Search.asp?SearchBox=1&TM=33652.51
The jury trial was tainted by ex parte offenses, witness tampering and a tainted jury.
There were several meetings with the prosecuting attorney and witnesses without the presence of the Colemans attorney.
Also, the social worker coached the one witness. This witness was a disgruntled woman who was also a former tenant.
And at least one of the jury members was a relative of a former tenant who had to be evicted by the Colemans!
This case needs your support. This case can force some changes in order to give families the right to record their encounters with the monsters in the system that lie, deceive and who are out to destroy the family.
Because CPS was so afraid of being recorded and the truth being revealed, Robert and Janet were subjected to pat down searches in order to visit their girls!
Please folks, contact the Daily Globe of Ironwood and let your voice be heard!
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Comment by esseveenefe — September 29, 2008 @ 12:41 am