Calling CPS
This morning I read something that illustrates perfectly why it is dangerous to call CPS. I’ve tried to tell people this for years, but it is hard to get the word out there to a population of mind-controlled, oh-too-trusting Americans, many of whom are still brainwashed to think that Child Protective Services exists to protect children. Calling CPS can be the worst nightmare you can inflict on parents; it also leads to increased danger and horrible trauma for many, many children.
But for today, let Joe tell us what it is like to seek help from a counselor who called CPS caseworkers, thinking they might be a bunch of benevolent child protecting social workers. Here’s Joe’s Comment.
Before I go on, let me say to Joe - you have my sympathy. At this point you have no choice but to fulfill the service plan requirements as stated in your court order. You’ll have to walk through hell to get out of the nightmare and protect your child. If you need to talk to experienced people about what’s going on in your case, please join the Fight CPS Message Forum.
Now to anyone thinking about calling CPS - PLEASE PEOPLE… put on the brakes. Evaluate the situation. Think about whether the child is actually in any specific danger known to you. Because once you make that call, either you’ll have the frustration of being ignored (about 80% of calls do not result in investigations) or… you may find out you don’t get the results you expected.
In Joe’s case, the counselor expected that Joe’s son would remain with him. As it turned out, he was taken out of his custody for a while. Even though he was the thoughtful parent who reported abuse to a counselor, Joe was accused by CPS social workers of “failure to protect” and now has to complete rigid “service plan” requirements that are using up too many hours each week and threatening his ability to keep his job.
People - this is TYPICAL. This is HOW IT NORMALLY WORKS. I’ve heard from many, many parents who struggled to complete CPS “service plans” only to lose their jobs in the process… and in the wake, they lost their homes, marriages, children . . . everything.
CPS is a FAMILY DESTROYING AGENCY. The people working there may think they are trying to protect children, but given the bad laws and regulations they must abide by, there’s no way they can attempt to protect children without destroying lives, families, jobs, homes, self-esteem of the people involved, and everything else that goes with it.
Please do NOT call CPS. That’s like calling in the devil. If you’re absolutely sure beyond the shadow of any doubt that a child is being severely physically abused, then call the local law enforcement agency - don’t bother calling CPS - the officers will do it if that’s warranted. Don’t ever call CPS for some petty thing. That destroys too many lives and especially traumatizes children, many of whom are injured worse in foster homes than they ever were in their natural family homes.
I like this advice given to a person who considered calling CPS because of a dirty house: CPS and/or Intervention. Need advice.
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hi can u please call me i need ur help 409-770-3113 and the email isnt real i dont have one.
Comment by crystal — February 23, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Linda, thank you for your Website and for pointing out that hotlining CPS is not a move that someone should undertake without thinking.
And joining the message boards here will help folks.
Also, for folks– politely declining to speak to CPS is a wise move.
Folks if a caseworker knocks on your door, please try to talk with foreknowlege. That is, don’t piss them off….
Youtube has some caseworker videos.
Best to keep your mouth shut and your brains awake.
Comment by Fern — February 24, 2008 @ 11:40 am
I totally agree with Linda. Child Predatory Services have destroyed my family beyond repair. My mother & her ‘partner’ have custody of our 3 kids & show NO signs of giving them back. They only let us have all of them one day a week. Total parental alienation going on here, but we have NO legal help that we so desparately need.
Comment by Susan — February 25, 2008 @ 12:17 am
You can’t fight CPS no matter what you do. Be nice, follow the rules, whatever you like, it won’t get you anywhere. The only thing you can do if CPS comes sniffing around your kids is the same thing you’d do with any other vicious pack of dogs - PACK THEM UP AND RUN LIKE HELL. Courts and lawyers are a waste of time. If you’ve let them get that far, you better just get used to not having your kids, because you’re never getting them back.
They will waste time in court, delay the proceedings, and use any visitation rights you may have with your children to collect evidence against you (and if you do anything, or don’t do anything, or do something, or don’t do something, or if you feed your child or don’t, play with your child or don’t, change a diaper or don’t, it will all be used as evidence that you hate your child and are severely mentally ill to boot). They will say you completed the service plan and then decide arbitrarily that you didn’t complete it “good enough”. They will pay psychologists to write up phony reports on you. They will testify to being afraid for their lives at the knowledge that you continue to draw breath.
In the end, they will claim that they simply don’t know how to do a reunification, even though that’s supposedly their job, and the judge will call that good enough reason to terminate your parental rights. And your lawyer will do nothing at all because if he tries to defend you at all, he’ll lose his job.
This *is* what happens when CPS comes around. So if you even *think* there’s the slightest *chance* they might - RUN.
Comment by MJ — February 26, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
Crystal,
Did Linda call you? What is the problem? You are in my area.. I know that by the area code.
Comment by Diando — February 27, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Ok first let me start with do not call cps unless the child is being abused,neglected, or its a health issue.
By abuse I mean old school abuse. Not this you’r not allowed to spank you’r child abuse. If you’ve ever had kids you know no 2 are alike. This also goes in forms of disapline.
By neglect I mean is the child not being feed. Not the child dont like to eat because thier a picky eater. Is the child too young to be let alone at home and is often. Is the parents drug abusers or alcholics and do not take of thier children. The bathing thing I hear so much about on web sites i’m 50/50 on. 3 of my 5 have a skin condition. Which the dermitoligist said its not good to give them baths ever day. It’ll dry out thier skin to much and worsen the condition. If I do try not to use soap as less as possable.
By health/medical I mean does the child have a breathing condition and the parents are neglecting the meds kind of thing.
Before you call really figure out whats going on with the child and family. If you truly have the childs best intrest at heart. You need to really go over these things. You owe it to the child. Because once cps is involved they can change the rules at will. And you just might wind up doing worse damange the you thought the parents where inflicting.
As I tell my children and people who ask me for advice on my sight.
Think before you act!!
Comment by april — February 27, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
MJ said it best. I wish I had that advice & ran like hell when all this started in Aug. of 2005. My own mother should have told me what they were up to so we could have fled. My husband & I completed all their stupid service plans, jumped thru all their hoops, but NOTHING was ever good enough. They are the ultimate abusers because they dangle the hope of getting back the kids like a carrot in front of you, just so they can jerk you around. May they rot in hell!
Comment by Susan — February 28, 2008 @ 7:22 am
Linda, good topic.
Reading some of the other posts brings to mind that families should try NOT to bring children to the ER, unless it is a dire emergency.
If at all possible go to the doctor or clinic where they know you and your child.
Comment by Fern — February 28, 2008 @ 7:06 pm
YES SUSAN THEY WILL ROT IN HELL PRAISE GOD!!!!!
Comment by SCOTT — June 5, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Yeah, they’ll rot in hell, but it will be too late to help any of us.
Comment by Lynne — June 5, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
I wish I have known of this website before our experience with CPS.
If you do not listen or follow the advice above, what is happening to me will happen to you.
My wife and I have a daughter that started hanging with the “wrong crowd” and started to cut herself to fit in. She started to sneak out at night to meet up with boys, smoke, drink, and get into the “Goth” thing. When we discovered the cutting, we took her to the hospital where we learned of her other activities. She was diagnosed with Bipolar Depression by two separate Psychiatrists. They kept her for 3 weeks and released her with the recommendation to attend a residential facility. In her records, she admits that she was trying to fit in and to “punish” mom & dad for not agreeing with her choices. She also was assessed by her high school when she returned and was shown that her social setting was causing her great distress. We made the big mistake of calling a Wright County Social Worker to help us find either a residential facility or some kind of day treatment center to help our daughter learn to cope and curb her behavior. Instead, she filed a CHIPS petition saying that was the only way to get help for her to go to one of those facilities. At the first hearing, she was immediately placed in foster care and the County then sent her to their doctors that on her first visit decided that she had no problems whatever and all of her behavior was caused by us, her parents. Her Psychiatric care was done by a Nurse Practitioner that was only licensed for less than 6 months before seeing my daughter. Along with the therapist, who also was contracted by Wright County, became severely critical of our family for not allowing sex, drugs, drinking, or smoking in our home. Since this all started, the Psych. PA and therapist have gone away and we have picked new professionals of our own including a real Psychiatrist to assess our daughter for what would be now a 3rd opinion on her mental health. Besides this, the biggest problem has been the Guardian Adlitem, Nicki Raske. I want everyone to know her name so they can beware. She comes to the home and preaches the gospel of reunification, then goes to court and pushes for permanent placement. After court, she comes back and talks about reunification again and then does the same thing in court as before. She has published countless lies in her reports about my wife and me without a shred of evidence. She is believable to the Judge who is obviously swayed by her Kindergarten teacher face and sweet manner in which she vomits her filth in the court room. In our last hearing, hoping our daughter would be able to come home, Nicki Raske (GAL) was allowed over 30 minutes to speak her trash while my daughter’s attorney as well as our own was only allowed about 3-5 minutes. When our attorneys addressed her lies, the court was “offended” that we would have the nerve to question a Guardian Adlitem with her qualifications and lack of guile. We and our attorneys were scolded severely by Judge Jonathan Jasper who just started presiding in family court after he spent the past few years in criminal court. He ran the hearing like a criminal trial and treated my wife and I like criminals. They are very vocally against our religious beliefs and our choice in therapists (one of which is renowned for her excellent work with adolescent psychology). If my daughter was sent home for a “trial†visit, Nicki Raske stated that she wanted to have the authority to simply take my daughter out of our home if we had the nerve to take her to the doctor if she was ill and the doctor put her on medication. She also wanted to be able to take her from the home if she missed 3 days of school whether she was sick or not. The court ordered that if there are any medications ordered by any physician, or Psychiatrist, it must be brought to hearing and decided by Judge Jaspers if they are needed or not. He stated that he has “all power over us and our daughterâ€. Further, he said that “your daughter’s life is in my hands, not yours.†I feel like I’m in a catch 22. If my daughter is ill and I take her to the doctor or not send her to school (like with strep throat), I’m in trouble. If I send her to school to throw up and/or infect and spread an illness, I can be accused by the school of child abuse and neglect. Not only that, I may also face criminal charges for possibly endangering all of the other children at the school. Beware of Wright County. Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are out to destroy our families and control our lives. As soon as this is over, if it ever ends, we are getting as far away from Minnesota as possible.
Comment by Paul — August 29, 2008 @ 12:12 pm
to paul from mn. i know exactly what your gouing through in wright ( wrong) co. 7 yrs ago we had our girls taken away by wrong co. on a lie our older girl told them. now our youngest daughter is in foster care in buffalo mn. i can only see her if i go to human services agency and have our visits video taped. which i refuse to do. i dont need some jackass videotaping me and my daughter visit like i did something wrong NO FRICKING WAY!!! THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST FD UP COUNTIES ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WOULDNT YOU AGREE? DONT COUNT ON IT EVER ENDING. LIKE I SAID WEVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS HELL FOR OVER 7 YRS NOW. AND THEY GAVE US THAT SAME LOAD OF CRAP ABOUT REUNIFICATION YRS AGO AND THEN FOR NO REASON THEY SAID NO THEIRS NOT GOING TO BE A REUNIFICATION.i also would love to move out of mn. actually out of this FING CUNTRY!@@@## I HOPE IT WORKS OUT BETTER FOR YOU THAN IT DID FOR US.NOW WEWILL HAVE TO WAIT TIL OUR 12 YR OLD GIRL TURNS 18 AND AGES OUT OF THE SYSTEM. YEAH AND IT DOESNT HELP ANY WHEN YOU HAVE INLAWS THAT ARE AGAINST YOU IN COURT. BECAUSE THEY WILL JUST BELIEVE ALL THEIR LIES. YOU KNOW ONE JUDGE WE CANT STAND THERE IS JUDGE HALSEY HES A REAL PRICK!!! JUDGE MOSSEY ISNT BAD.
Comment by scott a. — November 3, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
LAWYERS WILL DO YOU NO GOOD. WE HAD ONE OF THE VERY FEW THAT HANDLE CPS CASES IN TWIN CITIES BUT HE DID NOTHING FOR US. THEY JUST WANT MONEY MONEY AND MORE MONEY. I WILL NEVER HIRE ANOTHER ONE AGAIN. PLUS A LOT OF TIMES THEY WONT STAND UP TO THE JUDGES THEY JUST BACK DOWN AND THEY DONT SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT THEM TOO. WHAT A JOKE!!! AND IF A LAWYER CANT HELP YOU IN FAMILY DESTRUCTION COURT THEN YOU AINT GOT A PRAYER.
Comment by scott a. — November 3, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
CPS took my baby away and are trying to have false alligations against me in court now there gonna beg for mercy and wish they werent born. Payback, Karma and what goes around comes around is a B*tch and thats my middle name. Us GOOD parents gotta stick together and fight back and not roll over which is what those demons want from us. DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!
Comment by natalie wiley — November 3, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
Contact me if your having a law suite with CPS I want to here your story and what is going on. 509-326-2275
Comment by natalie wiley — November 3, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
would it be wrong to call if the parent who is not letting the father visist with the child, and that child is not getting the attention he needs to be educated. He is almost 5 and has not even close to any of the skills to make it to kindergarten this year, he buries his head in cartoon movies and plays alone when around other kids. You can tell he is just put in a room to play and doesn’t get to learn much. He is sick all the time, and his little sister is a yr old being set on counter tops and pic-nic benches left with no one around while she snaps pictures. she could fall off any moment and cause major damage.
Comment by bailey — November 27, 2008 @ 1:33 am
I was recently in court regarding one of many false allagations made by The Corrupted Prentending Services. To my shock the Judge told me that they have so much power that they can take my children,put them in foster care & that there is nothing the judge or lawyers can do to get them back.. How can they have that much power? It totally sickens me that they can destroy a family with no regard or meaning & get away with it. I wish there was something I could do to have a large portion of that power ripped away from them.
Comment by Mike — March 1, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
I have only ever called CPS on one person in my life. I’ve called on her twice. Both times CPS set up an appointment to meet with her giving her days to ‘prepare’ for the interview and clean up her apartment. This person is a relative and has lost 3 other children in 3 seperate investigations. Even ICWA wouldn’t assist her in those investigations.
Fourth time around and she still hasn’t learned anything. CPS refused to truly investigate this one because they didn’t want to take yet another child away from her only to have her get pregnant again. I’ve tried to help her, but I refused to sit back and watch her destroy her fourth child.
I ended up testifying against her in her custody battle with the child’s father. At this time the father has temporary custody and she has supervised only visitation.
CPS is the most useless and abusive agency. When the case really needs to be investigated they ignore it, and when there isn’t abuse they make it up.
Comment by Char — March 1, 2009 @ 9:48 pm
I am a singl emom of 3 and I know who called cps on me . But the reason I was givin for them coming is because this person told them I care to much for my children. WTF how does a parent care to much. now I am dealing with cps even though the case person said this was retarded I am still in it. my children are worried because they dont know why this person is asking them sick questions. Tell me is it possible to care to much for your babies? good lord help this world.
Comment by miranda — March 10, 2009 @ 8:00 pm
my children are being physicaly abused by thier father and he has full custody of they due to knowing the cps people VERY well, teachers, babysitters, friends, etc have reported to cps the abuse along with myself and my family and nothing ever comes of it other me going to jail for interferance or not being able to see my babies, what do i do and who do i contact? WE NEED HELP BAD!! louisville, ky
Comment by jhade — March 11, 2009 @ 2:32 am