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Child Protective Services, CPS, has devastated and destroyed hundreds of thousands of families in America during the last thirty years leaving a trail of broken hearts, broken dreams, and shattered childhoods.
Rather than helping families, government agents have used unconstitutional laws in Juvenile Court to rip children away from their loving parents, break asunder God-given, natural, parent-child bonds, and adopt the children of the grieving out to others who profit financially with large monthly adoption subsidy payments.
Child Protective Services must be stopped! The law that started this, CAPTA, must be repealed. We must work tirelessly to inform the public of this very dangerous travesty of justice. We must keep faith knowing that if there is a God, there is an answer and a way to end this heartache.
Child Protective Services Agents - please come to your senses! Family destruction on false or trivial grounds is wrong, reprehensible, and inhumane.
Fosterers - be aware that for the money you get you are holding much-loved children away from their grieving families while the parents are forced to perform a service plan that is anything but a service to them. I call this hostage holding for the government. This is not kindness - to help misguided government agents destroy family relationships and break loving bonds.
CPS workers and fosterers - I ask that you now let the children of the innocent return to their homes where they are truly valued, adored, and loved by the parents God gave them.
Family rights are God-given rights. And they should not be ignored or postponed. Every moment these loving parents and children spend separated from one another is a torment beyond what anyone should ever have to bear.
It is unworthy of human dignity to allow this terrorism and torture of families to go on without saying something, speaking out, and trying to make a change.
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February 1, 2008
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Husband’s two nieces ages 10 and 13 removed from their parents custody last week, the younger allegedly plucked right out of Riley Hospital for Children. They were put in undisclosed foster home. Parents had to appear before a judge that next Tuesday. They could not speak. A twenty page document was presented to the judge “supporting” allegations. They have no idea why this happened or who compiled the documentation. Younger child is ill with immune syndrome and cries in pain at night. Foster care cannot give her anything. Child back in school but principal has letter from physician stating she cannot attend school. Appointed attorney will not return calls nor will the social worker on the case. What can they do?
Comment by Kris Wilcher — February 1, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
tHEY MUST GET THEIR OWN ATTORNEY ASAP. THAT ATTORNEY CAN FILE A PETITION. A DEMAND UNDER THE “FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1974″ TO A COMPLETE COPY OF THE FILE CPS HAS. THEN THEY CAN BEGIN THE FIGHT.
Comment by Cheryl — February 1, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
in the meantime, tell them not to allow any interviews with CPS at all. They can easily say something damning without meaning to.
Do not let them into the home!!!! If they appear at the door, have the parents step out doors and say ” you do NOT have permission to enter”.
Repeat it as many times as needed until they get the point and leave. Say nothing else, just that they do not have permission. Suggest that IF the want to talk at all, it must be at their office with your attorney present. Do nothing whatsoever without the attorney present.
I know it means waiting on them to be available and actually pick up a phone to return calls, but they need to be patient. This process takes time. If they don’t do it, the case will go on even longer than a few months.
Once you have allowed these people into your home, the real trouble begins and the case balloons even bigger. Letting them in constitutes “permission” which negates the need of a warrant. Without permission, they can not enter. They will try to make you believe otherwise, but the law backs you up and they cannot get the poie to back them up either.
If they let them in, CPS will then have all the power!!!!!!!!!!
The next thing they will / may ask them to do is: “if you sign over custody to a relative, you will be able to visit your kids and get them back sooner. If you don’t, you will never see your kids again”.
It’s a trick!!!!!!!
Famous tactic they use for a voluntary POA. by the parents. Then later, they use that POA in court to show that you really were not interested in “cleaning up your act” but never really wanted to parent kids in the 1st place. Trust me, this is most likely going to happen next>>>>>it did to just about all of us here.
It stinks…but they have to get thru this with patience. CPS feeds on making you impatient enough to mess up and say something stupid. And they use all you comments against you in court.
They apply the pressure to deliberatley irritate you. As long as you believe their lies, they win.
PLEASE!@@@@@@ LEARN YOU 4TH AND 14TH AMMENDMET RIGHTS. THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO CPS CASES AGAINST SEARCH AND SEIZURE AND THE RIGHT TO PARENT ANY WAY YOU SEE FIT BARRING IMMEDIATE LIFE THREATING DANGERS.
You’ll find them on the menu bar to the right on this home page.
Comment by Cheryl — February 1, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
CPS TOOK MY NEWBORN BABY AND MY 17 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER THERE IS NO DEPENDANCY LAWYERS TO HELP ME OUT SO IF ANYONE CAN HELP GET MY CHILDREN BACK IN MY CARE IT WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATED CPS TOOK MY TWO CHILDREN AWAY ON RISKS WE HAVE LETTERS FROM OUR DAUGHTERS DAYCARE CENTER AND HER PHYSICIAN THAT OUR CHILDREN WERE WELL CARED FOR AND LOVED. CPS WILL NOT GIVE MY FAMILY MEMBERS MY CHILDREN UNTIL COURT. PLEASE FAMAILY IN NEED OF HELP TO LET OUR CHILDREN BE WITH THEIR PARENTS.
Comment by ROCHELLE — February 1, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
Please go to this site read and sign. Help us to keep our babies http://cpsissue.blogspot.com/2008/02/we-need-your-assistance.html
Thank you
Peggy
Comment by Peggy — February 1, 2008 @ 9:03 pm
MY Spouse got a phone call that morning from someone asking for me without giving any form of identifacation my spose says im not here & hangs up then another call claiming that they want to see our children with me not being home & no clue of whose calling, my spouse refuses then hangs up the phone. 10-15 minutes later police are at the door trying to kick it in.with several onlookers &passer byers my wife says she will let them through the back window.They come in open the front door let in the other officer. At which point with no paperwork or explaination they say “put the cuffs on” took our children,took my spouse to the hospita “in which she was released in less than 24 hours.” On the return of my spouse, we went to cps, asking questions in a attempt to get our children back , in which we were given a court date. No explanation as to why they confinscated our children. We were also told to brig clothes and toys for our children in which we complied. In which resulted in a 1-2 hour visit with out supervision. After the visit we were informed that we would have a community team meeting. Which we have no clue of what that is. We were instructed to obtain several character witnesses to speak on the behalf of us and our children. We were told that all they want from us is psychological evaluation. We have not been to court yet, but we’re wondering what rights did they violate. Also how could we get our children back. They came looking for me and violated my family if anyone has has help please let us know. We are willing to make some form of a payment plan. Any suggestions?!!
Comment by Donell & Latasha — February 1, 2008 @ 9:31 pm
CPS RUINED SOMWONE CLOSE TO ME FROM AGE 12 UNTIL HE’LL SOON BE 30 AND HIS MIND IS MUSH. WHEN TAKEN AT 12 HE HAD TESTED AT 12TH GRADE LEVEL IN C.A.T. TESTS. DAMN THE CPS GOONS.
Comment by FRANK SULLIVAN — February 2, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
To all above….
Please listen to Cheryl… Also, I know that most of you cannot afford an attorney… As we could not either..
My granddaughter was taken… wrongfully… my kids let them in….
The Investigator even put in her report, which was used against my daughter in court, that “she got up at 3:00 am and rocked her baby back to sleep”
This is a no, no in CPS’s eyes!
First and foremost, a video camera, or a voice recorder, perferably a video camera, buy one, borrow one, what ever means it takes you get one…
CPS does NOT like to filmed.. If they tell you that you can’t do that, tell them yes, I can, it is my constitutional right!
If you can afford to buy the court transcripts, by all means get them….
Most of what happens in court you can’t remember…
Any meeting, or anthing, video tape it…
If they will not allow that… then don’t speak or meet with them unless you can have an attorney present…
They lie!!!!!!!!! You say it is a bright sunny and and they will turn it around and say that you said it was gloomey…
That means in their translation… your are depressed and violent….
I was told at a permancy placement meeting 3-4 weeks after they took my granddaughter that they were going to adopt her out and I had NO rights..
I have it on audio recording… We didnt’ let them know we were recording until at the last minute…
It scared the crap out of them… Trust me what Cheryl is saying is all true..
They will corner you and do their best to make you look bad…. Never, I repeat never say anything without a recorder or video camera present.
If you can get your hands on one… even if it doesn’t work… take it and let them see it and pretend it is working…
Always try to be one step ahead of the game….. If they aske the caseworker or DA to do something, you go and do it and file it with the court…
They are not going to do it in order to make the case last longer…
Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 9:29 pm
Chery,
Are you going to post your interview? I am!
Also, I’m going to make copies of it and send it out to all Senators, etc…
If you send me yours, I will send it to my Senators etc… here in Texas… I have about or close to 100 other peoples stories…
I will make copies of mine and send it to your Senators as well.
Do you know about Senator Nancy Schaefer?
Well she is the 50th Senator, and a woman!
So, we need to get the rest of them informed…
I dont’ know about you, but, I’m not letting this go! Were you sent Interogeratorie questions?
I was, and had to answer and submit them to the courts.
They asked me for every single man/or person that I have ever slept with… they wanted his name, age and dob.
Not to mention, I had to release my other kids names, dob etc..
They are going to go after my other kids now…
I have 4 grandkids and one more on the way…
2 of my daughters have graddaughters have graduated college..
This particular one was about to go back to school, but they stepped in and destroyed their lives…
Are you going to be at the Rally in Washington DC on August 19th?
Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
Donnell and Latasha,
There is a way to get your child back in 72hrs.
I’m sorry to report that I don’t know it…
Hurry and do research and find it out….
‎”‎Justice4court@aol.com‎”‎
E-mail this person and he may know the answer, if not will be able to direct you where to go!
Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
I believe I have traced this back to the evil bastards that work for the CIA (Central Imbicile Agency). After they ceased my daughter through CPS they tried to paint a picture of their dad as a paranoid lunatic who believed there was a conspiracy but there was to much evidence to support my position so they eventually withdrew there petition but not before they thoroughly traumatized her and performed medical proceedures on her without my consent. All I can do is pray that God will divide these monsters they way they are dividing families.
God be with you all as you battle these illegal aliens.
Comment by Brent Matthews — February 3, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Hi my name is marcy and my 3 children were taken from me on april 23 2007 a social worker came in and said that my fiance was abusing my oldest child i feel the reason they took my children was because nine yrs ago my son was shaken to death by his father so they felt i was unable to protect my children i am still fighting to get them back and it has been hard the only thing i can say to peoiple is never give up no matter how hard it is and no matter what they throw at you…. if there is anything else you can help me with plesae let me know thank you
Comment by Marcy — February 3, 2008 @ 8:31 pm
I believe whole heartedly that our system needs to be reformed. DCFS has taken my son and held him hostage for over a year. They have provided no evidence beyond hearsay but have convinced the judge of my guilt even though no charges were ever filed and none are pending.
Comment by Chuck — February 3, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
My daughter was taken from me in march of 2007 after her mother had abused her by bracking her leg. I have been fighting this case for almost a year just for them to say that they want to terminat my rights. My daughter has never been in any danger while in my care though they try to say otherwise. They have done nothing but try to tare my family apart.They put her with foster parents and i have requsted many times that they put her in care of my family members and they have done nothing. the foster parents my daughter is with are freinds with my case worker and other people involved in my case and have said that they want to adopt her. I feel that this is the reason that they want to terminat my rights. My court apointed attorny has treatend to drop my case because i get upset abought this stuff and he wants to do nothing. Where can i get some help? my daughter means every thing to me The system has done nothing but hurt us will anyone help?
Comment by jeremy foster — February 3, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
to all the new cases reported above,
Do not agree to a Phys exam or any other type of exam voluntarily. These exams are really not about getting your kids returned as CPS says they are. They are REALLY about trying to expose the inner you for info they can use against you later. It is a “fact finding” expedition they are on. REALLY!!!!!
Been there done that.
And when you think about it…aren’t you very, very upset right now. Of course you’ll say things out of emotion that shouldn’t be said at these exams. We’d all like to think we won’t, but when we are this upset, and hit this many block walls trying to get our kids back, we become depressed and THAT is what they want the Pyhs. to say in his report to the court.
That is why you’ll find most CPS workers put off the Phys. exam for a few months in scheduling. They are trying to allow you enough time to become ezxtremely depressed and distraught…or hopefully a suicidal risk.
They know how to play this game. STAY 1 STEP AHEAD. KNOW WHA THEY ARE UP TO. ASK THESE PEOPLE AND ME. WE’VE BEEN THERE AND CAN ALMOST TELL YOU THE NEXT STEP THEY WILL TAKE…EVERYTIME.
Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 8:26 am
Diando-
I am going to post all I can! I want this soooo public, the state can’t weasel out of anything.
I know of Nancy Schaeffer and her work in this field. Her public opinion is that CPS is too far gone to be reformed. It needs to be abolished completely. Then, start over fresh!
And I agree.
It seems their really are those families that are terribly dysfunctional still, but those are not who CPS targets. They target the poor or middle income working class for good reason.
As a point of fact…on of the 5 case managers on my case said “we’ve been following the family for 4 years now and this is the 1st time we’ve had anything concrete to use”.
So I asked myself, why 4 years of watching but no case opened? Then I found out about the Adoption Incentive program and how the state payroll works here for case managers. It answered all my questions!!!
Seem that case managers must balance at least 6 open cases per month. If they drop below 6, they will lose their “salary bonus” for that month.
So they follow other families and keep track of them. Then when they have to close a case or two, they have 1 or 2 targets to open cases on, so they won’t lose that payroll bonus.
Now, that is really wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I found that the woman that opened the case against my daughter, was a brand new employee and had -0- cases. She had to build them quickly. So she plucked 6 targets from the “watch” file and wala!! Bonus within the first months’ employment.!
We’re not talking peanuts either. In this state, that bonus above base salary is $1000.
No wonder they have more incentive to keep cases open as long as possible.
Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 8:43 am
i have a family planning meeting on the 6th where i am just going to sighn over my rights to my aunt. i cant take it any more they have tore me apart in the worst way to fight would mean a death sentence to me. i cry as i write….. please pray for me and my family
Comment by michelle — February 4, 2008 @ 11:29 am
Michelle-
Don’t you dare give up!!! You have to put on your armor! You don’t think I cried and felt the same? I did. ANd not just in the beginning. I spent 5 days crying from 12/21/12/26 Xmas 2007!
I was told “bring in the evidence that the foster family were criminals. I did just that and you know what… Friday before Xmas…the judge ruled that he wanted drug tests done on the foster family BUT he severed all family contact, too.
Imagine how I felt 4 days before xmas with that. It hurt sooo bad. I cried everyday and night until I made myself sick the day after Xmas. Now this is 13 months AFTER they got my grandkids.
I was always the strong one so it killed me to let go and cry. But in the end it gave me the strenght to keep up the good fight. I am NOT going to lose!!
The biggeast mistake my daughter and I made was on 12/6/2006 when she signed a POA to me. That POA has spent over a year coming back to haunt us and nearly driven us insane. The POA was used repeatedly against us.
If I had it all do do over again, I would never have insisted my daught sign that POA. But I was ignorant at the time.
You, on the other hand, have the ability to see the future thru me and some others here who have been thru the process, step by step and won!! PLEASE take advantage of it. It will give you a much better chance in the end.
YOU CAN WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 1:01 pm
i’m a grandmother of two children who were taken by ocs because of so called domestic abuse. my grandchildren can’t even visit me in my home because of this situation, and a charge that was put on my youngest son;but dropped. i have only seen the babies 3 times in a year now. this has caused the children to almost forget me and who i am. they have been tramatised through all this. my middle son is the so-called perpetrator, and he has spent thousands of dollars trying to complete the case and get them back but the sate still comes up with reasons not to give the children back, and it’s been a year now. help us please!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by tina — February 5, 2008 @ 4:32 am
My husband has been fighting for his daughter for over 3 years now. The matter never gets any better and never any closer of gaining custody of his daughter. My step-daughter was placed in CYS of Luzerne Co. PA since birth by her natural mother. My husband has been fighting for her ever since. He has complied with EVERYTHING that was ordered and beyond. No criminal background, no abuse or anything bad in his background what so ever. Child is supposed to be adopted out but they are trying to find a reason to terminate. It is like the biggest game here with CYS and the courts. Each time there is a different judge. The judge doesn’t want to terminate his rights and the Master in hearing Wants to terminate his rights. My husband has been through 4 mental health evals the last one he took was through our own. I know he is back to having supervised visitation with his daughter. Visits were supposed to be increased but they were not they were decreased to every other wk for one hour. I have writing on my husband’s behalf to every legislator, governer and nothing is done. I did write to sen. Nancy Schaefer and she is the only one who cares. Very worth writing to her. I am going to write my third letter to the governer. There is some heat going on with this local CPS. We are trying to get the newspaper to do a story on us. We are terribly heartbroken over possibly losing his daughter for good. I am willing to adopt her as my own. I know that the foster parents want to adopt her. Why don’t they understand this father always wanted his daughter regardless of the ex not wanting her. They have done everything and anything to try to destroy us. I will never cease fighting this modern day Gustopos police. I can’t believe that the evil they do I can’t believe that there are so many evil CPS workers in this world. I do know it is about the incentives and big bonuses that are handed out. Thank you for listening.
Comment by Stacey Clayworth — February 5, 2008 @ 7:01 am
My name is Mattia , i was sick and in a comma. i was living in ga at the time. I went to ct to be with my mother and family while i got well. My mothers husband decided that he did’nt want us there. We had to leave. I went to a place that says that they help people with these conditions. Dcf came in and said that because i was working and looked good and the children as well that they would help me. They said that they would give me within three days a emergency section 8 , emergency housing or that they would pay my security deposit. well make a long story short, it never happened. when i went to move into a house. I went to give the landlords information to dcf so that they could pay for the security deposit that they would send the check to the landlord. This is after the worker talked to the landlord . He asked a worker to come in and to watch me and my children. The worker came back and said that they were taking my children because i was homeless. This is very painful so i won’t go much into it. They took my children, told them that i had abandond them there. they turned my family against me. I had an aunt that never liked me from childhood and she reported a bunch of stuff. She did’nt even know of me. Well it’s been 3 years now. Things are getting better. Still i’m suffering because of it all. It just hurts to have to read the lies on the paperwork. I have had good judges that don’t want me to loose my children. That is a good thing. Dcf has been tring to terminate my parental rights. Dcf is also tring to give one of my children up for adoption. My children have been sexually abused. My 4 year old has been placed on psycosexual meds. what ever that is. They said that he acts out sexually. Well he never did it until they had him for a few months. I keep fighting by the grace of god. If it was’nt for jesus giving me peace and strength. I would not have made it this far. I have watched alot of people suffer from Dcf. Keep praying and god will give you all strength. peace and love. your sister in christ . If any of you have a case in CT. will you please contact me.thanks
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 7:56 am
Mrs. clayworth.
I too was very surprised at the evil ways of the DCF system. I never thought that i would have something like this happen to me either. Many have a cold and evil heart. The ones who don’t , eventually will when it is all over
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:00 am
Tina. sorry to hear your story. Stay strong and eventually it will all work out. Don’t give up. That is what they want you to do. Keep praying
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:01 am
Thanks michelle for the encouragement
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:03 am
mistake i mean thanks cheryl for the encouragement to michelle. They will make you want to give up. Just cry out to god and make a daily prayer that the lord help you through each day. they want you to give up. I will keep you and your family in prayer
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:06 am
cheryl. is that bonus for just your state or ingeneral. How can i find out that kind of information on my state.
thanks…mattia
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:09 am
oh my god cheryl. That is so true. I had no mental problem before them. On my report that they keep sending out they continue to say how mentally instable i am. Also i found that i get so ill when i have to read that long list of lies that they send me over and over again about all of the things that i did’nt do. Even though it’s not true , it’s hard to read. They also tried to say that my children did’nt miss me. That my children don’t want me. They really try to mess with your mind. However my children told me that they asked dcf if they could see me and they said no. But in the same instance told me that my children did’nt want me in their lives… it’s amazing. They will lie and try to turn your children against you and you against your children
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:14 am
Mrs. Foster
request another attorney. You will be blessed because it’s obvious that this attorney is’nt doing anything for you anyway. Some attorneys are getting paid anyway. So they can care less. God bless you and i will keep you in my prayers. P.S…don’t give up like cheryl said
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:16 am
Chuck that is just a stronghold. Mentally it can be exhausting. Be strong and stay involved in helping others with what you know about the system and believe me , In turn you will learn some things that will make your case file disappear. It takes time and effort. You are fighting a beast
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:19 am
Marcy . sorry to hear about what happened to you. Did you know that dcf can’t just come into your home and remove your children without a warrant. I’ve learned that Dcf uses the police to assist them in illegal removal of children.. Marcy do you have a court appointed attorney or a paid attorney? keep the faith and stay strong. Keep your children lifted up in prayer too
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:22 am
Mattia-
That bonus is to every case manager in every state, paid by the state, then they receive re-payment into the program from the feds IF they keep the child in the welfare market.
It is known as a business term: “The cost of doing business”.
If you look up Child Protection Services website, go to Adoption Incentive Program, It has the entire federal program (written as law) and signed by Bill Clinton. It took affect in 2003.
Many states do not advertise how much they give as that really is a payroll issue, and it is not unusual for companies do forbid dicussion about payroll.
I got lucky. I was handed their 400 page polies manual on a silver platter on the 1st day I took custody of 2 granddaughters. I read it from cover to cover. IT has just about written our lawsuit for us.
Rule #1 in that book reads just like a doctors oath; “first, do no harm”.
Yeah right… that happened.
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:24 am
Diando. will you please give me information about the ralley in washington. I would like to make arrangements to go there
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:25 am
Donell and Latosha.
what they did was illegal. They can’t enter into your home without a warrant. Dcf uses the police to help them with their illegal removal of children
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:30 am
Rochelle
I’m so sorry to hear that. In what way did they remove them? I don’t understand, how can there be no dependancy lawyers. You have the right to have a lawyer. Did you try legal aid in your area? I’ll be praying for your families safe return. I know it is painful. God bless you and peace be with you
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:34 am
Marcy is correct. They use the police to aid in removal and call it an “emergency”. The law is clear, unless there is a life-threating reason, they must get a warrant. The law provides that if it can wait 2-4 hours before removal, they need a warrant. Emergency on counts if death or sexual abuse is imminant within the next 2 hours it would take to get the warrant.
So why is there a difference in 10 am and after lunch hour? That worker may have a lunch date and waiting would interfer with meeting the boyfriend on time. ( I had this happen at the opening of my case). Believe it?
Where else can you as a citizen, call the police, make a hearsay claim against your neighbor, and talk an officer into coming over to take the neighbor away based only on you claim? No evidence. Can’t be done as a private citizen.
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:34 am
Chris
They should make a documentation of every time that they tried to reach the attorney and the case worker. Document time and dates. Go to the court and file a complaint and request to recieve another attorney. . May god be with them. I’ll keep them in my prayers
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:37 am
I am terrified of losing my boyfriend to the system. He has been falsely accused of sexual assault amongst other false charges by a girl that he loves like his own child and would never hurt her or anyone. They have no evidence except her stating whatever it is she told the police. It has been about 4 yrs since he has even seen the family or girl as her mom is really crazy and his long time friend of 25 years (the father) is practically helpless in helping us as once the state has made an arrest they take over the charges - so even if she drops them, they are still going to try him. We are so scared as we don’t have money and cannot afford much. This is one of the best men I’ve ever known in my life, we have made plans to have a family of our own someday, he has helped me raise my son and provide for him and honestly, I KNOW that he would never do such a thing. He is a decent man and has never been accused of anything like this in his life. He has helped raise many kids with his friends - he’s like everyone’s uncle - helps with homework, taught the accuser how to drive (NEVER spent more than 30 mins alone with her) and was one of the only people that showed her any parental guidance - her parents are always fighting and this is a ploy to get attention. Please offer any advice you can that may help my wonderful man. God help us all against this terrible supposed ‘Justice’ system.
Comment by Michelle — February 5, 2008 @ 8:56 am
Donell,
You said that “they came looking for you”. Why? They put the cuffs on. You only? They not only took your kids but they took your wife to the hospital? Is this right? And they called a few times before coming by?
I think I know the direction this is going to take. Been there, done that.
If I caught you right, sounds like someone reported that you were abusing your wife in front of your kids.
If this is what they think (not that you hit her at all) , your wife had every right to refuse the hospital visit. They would have taken her to try to get medical evidence against you. That would be the only thing that would support their claim in court that you are an abuser and removal of the kids. They sent your wife home in 24 hours? You can be with your wife under any circumstances, but they won’t let the kids come home unless she leaves you if they really think you are an abuser.
This brings up the next step they will take. “Divorce your husband and you can have your kids back.” Don’t count on it. They know they need to divide and conquer! Stick it out together. Divorce won’t fix it. You need to Divide and Conquer them!!!
The community team meeting is where you and the wife sit down at a table with CPS personell and Phys. and counselors to discuss how to better you home life. Deal with anger issues. This is where they hope to get you to speak of something they can use against you. It doesn’t even have to be specific. Merely saying ” we fight sometimes” is enough damage. And because of the “out of the mouths of babes” possibility, they may have your kids present. They have a tendency to say things without thinking. That would explain WHY they let you see your kids after this happened. They could not have felt you were much of a threat if they let you visit your kids. You will be emotional at this meeting, and they know it. They are counting on it.
Then at the conclusion of the meeting, they will take whatever your family has said, an implement several costly classes and counseling sessions that they require you to complete. They call it a service plan. They may not cost you any money, but the time you will lose from work with this messy schedule could cost you your job at some point.
Let me know if this is how they go along with their plan. I am pretty sure of it after what I’ve been thru.
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:58 am
Michelle
I know that you may love this man and i believe you when you say that he would’nt hurt a fly and that is all wonderful. However right now you have a child i believe that is what i read. Don’t think for one instant that they are not going to plan to remove your child next. See if he has been accused of this, and you allow him to be around your child then they may think that you are neglecting your childs safety and that you are more concerned about the boyfriend than your own child. Right now the thing to do would be to protect your own child. You can still be there for the boyfriend but i tell you the truth. when they take these children, they are abused,molested etc. and it’s just not worth it. I don’t mean to sound insensitive to your love life but your sons safety is most important here. I’ll keep you in prayer…
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:31 am
Thanks Cheryl.
I’m going to look into that. Greatly appreciated
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:32 am
Cheryl
do you know about the ralley in washington that diando spoke of?
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:33 am
Cheryl
about this 2-4 hour warrant thing. what do you advise during this time . What can we do since that is such a short time . Well it’s longer than the immediate removal but it’s not long. What exactly can be done within that time period?
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:34 am
Donell
God bless you . Marriage is a special bond and i gov even wants to take that away. It’s a shame. Yeah, don’t go for the divorce thing, You know when it comes to your children you would do anything. Continue to stay strong in the lord. He will bring you out. It may not happen when you want it to or the way that you want it to but it will happen
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:38 am
Writing from Clear Creek County Colorado, app. 35 miles west of Denver.
My sister in law is being abused by the SS here. Our county is small, rural, and largely disadvantaged (poor / uneducated). My sister in law fits into their perfect victim category. She is 22 and single. She left her boyfriend due to emotional abuse and signs of physical abuse waiting to happen. She called the SS for help, which has proved to be the biggest mistake of her life.
She gave birth to a 7 pound baby in mid November 2007. Her baby was taken from the hospital on an emergency D&N filing. The filing came about because my sister in law has Fibromyalgia (a pain disorder) and was taking PRESCRIBED pain medication recommended by her PCP, OB/GYN, and Rheumatologist during her pregnancy.
The SS was aware of this during her pregnancy and filed D&N after birth saying the baby was abused by the medication use. Colorado statute 19-3-101(g) clearly excludes prescription use as a reason to file D&N. The appointed attorney first tried to say that subsection did not apply to my sister in law’s case. Then she said it does apply, but the case is still open even though it is clearly invalid and illegal. The county attorney claims that subsection does not exist which is totally ludacris! Nobody will admit that the law clearly prohibits this action.
My sister in law was going to take the case to trial. 2 weeks prior, the SS held a staff meeting and lied to her and coerced her into taking a no contest plea with promises of getting her baby back. She took the plea. Now things have gone from bad to worse.
The SS has barely been giving any paperwork, and when they do it has rarely been “on time”. When she works on things on the (not yet) approved / ordered, they ridicule her by saying “well, you must have a problem with this or that to have completed this”. Every comment has been derogatory and the visitation therapist constantly makes suggestions and comments about my sister in law’s depression and notes the affect in her reports.
My sister in law became ill with a cold and was told she could not attend her visit. The baby became ill with bronchitis and the SS cancelled 2 visits. They have now sent a court report to everyone except my sister in law stating that she has not complied with aspects of the plan. My sister in law’s therapist told her about it. They blamed her for the SS cancelled visits and for their failure to return her phone calls etc. Now they say there is another staff meeting, but my sister in law cannot get any confirmation of when. They have cancelled the disposition and have not rescheduled it.
It is nearing the first permenancy deadline, which is what I guess the latest report has been prepared for. The SS drafted a permenancy plan 6 days after the petition was filed that made no mention of my sister in law at all, not even visitation rights. The SS told her when she took the plea that they were going to draft a new permenancy plan right away for her and allow her own input for the treatment plan which of course has not happened.
The SS is also trying to act as a medical doctor for my sister in law. They have claimed her pain management is not acceptable to them since it involves narcotic pain relievers. They have questioned her illnesss and are sending her to one of their doctors and they will rely upon that report and not a rheumatologists report from more than a year ago. They have called her a drug addict, but have refused to allow my sister in law to get a report from their own addiction counseler to refute their uneducated opinion that they have included in their court reports. The person making the drug addict statements is the visitation supervisor.
I believe they are being extra nasty now because my sister in law was going to go to a jury trial, and probably would have won since the petition is illegal to begin with and that is the only issue raised (the prescription use).
The GAL demanded more visitation and asked for unsupervised visitation, to which the case worker responded by increasing the supervised visits from 2-2 hour visits to 3-2 hour visits per week.
The baby is in the care of her father and paternal grandmother. The father has been ordered to complete anger management classes since his D&N filing included an incident in which he nearly assaulted my sister in law in the hospital and was made to leave and barred reentry. The father was subjected to serious abuse as a child partly due to their religion (Jehovah Witness). His mother allowed and condoned the abuse. The father works rotating 12 hour shifts at a mine. He works nights, days, weekends and the days off are never the same from week to week. The baby goes to several baby sitters and has become ill several times. They also take the baby out for 100 hours a month on their “door knocking” excursions in the middle of winter.
Nobody in our family has been allowed to see the baby. Not her 90 year old great grandmother, 3 year old sister, nobody. My mother in law got to see her for 15 minutes 3 times until the SS visitation supervisor said the baby seemed nervous and recommended no other contact with the baby.
I am friends with a former therapeutic foster provider ffor this county who told me she had to quit doing placements for the county and moved away because of the SS actions and total disregard for the law.
I want to file complaints and lawsuits, but my sister in law wants to wait to get her baby back. She will never get the baby back, and she has little recourse to get her baby back. I am trying to research if you can file a complaint without having to go through the county first as is required in CO.
If anyone has advice, please don’t hesitate!
Thank you
Comment by Amy M. — February 5, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Mattia-
I am planning on traveling to the rally. I wanted a reason to get away from the heat of AZ. in Aug. Have 5th wheel, will travel… anywhere.
I hope to have most of my family members present, too. We love to RV together.
Also, you can bet that when they go for the warrant, it’s by telephone only. The investigator will call it in to his/her supervisor and then literally camp outside your door.
If you leave with the kids, they’ll follow.
The best thing you could spend the time doing, is call every family member or friend you can think of to find an attorney to protect your rights immediatley. As I said, at the moment of removal, you are very upsert and could spill out anything without thinking.
In each case, they must get the warrant based on evidence. They may not get it for a few days or not at all. It doessend them out for a wild goose chase anyhow; how long is based on the judge they know and if he’s in or on the golf course. You just won’t know until and unless they come back OR go to your kids school, present the warrant and kidnap them from there.
Are you aware that each school now has CPS trained case workers in their counseling dept. to help identify abuse? They will call the police and take your kids on a whim right then if the child says something strange. Some schools have officers on campus that take care of this, too.
That is HOW it happened initially to us. And the cop was in school campus!
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
Amy,
Under the laws, you HAVE to wait until the case is closed before your can file anything. No matter how it ends, you canot file until then.
Your then file within 120 days at your states’ FEDERAL COURT. You must prove “gross negl.” in the handling of the case or care of the children. If you are sucessful, they will strip CPS of their immunity from prosecution. That clears your way to sue!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Thanks Cheryl. That is for lawsuit right? What about complaint against a worker. The state DHCS says to contact county director, and if a resolution cannot be reached that you can then go to the state to file a complaint which the state will investigate, can lead to punishment by their own! Sounds simple, but the county director is well aware of the case and was present in the first court hearing. From what I have understood, a complaint can be filed at any time. Problem being, they all know what is going on in this department. Any complaint filed to them will result in further corruption to not only my sister in law, but probably my own family as well.
Can I file directly to the state? This department is seriously corrupted and everyone is in collusion to apply the laws to fit their own needs. I want to file a complaint ASAP.
The state needs to know that this largely forgotten county is blatantly breaking and ignoring state statute. Colorado has been attempting to reform the SS system over the past few years and it appears as though our county either needs more training to stay current with applicable laws, or is severely mismanaged and arrogant.
Everyone is so scared to do anything if they are in the system. I really want to have a state investigation into the department. LAwsuit would pack in the final punch, but I would love nothing more than to see them all facing state charges. It is disgusting when agencies break laws and each department needs to be held accountable. But people have to stand up. Nobody cares until it happens to them and then it is too late.
My hope would be that if a complaint can be filed against the SS, the state could stop the case or in the least change venue or workers. I would think the case should be closed since the issue is the medications taken as prescribed during pregnancy which is clearly alllowed by law.
In addition to the disregard for the applicable statute, the SS was aware that my sister in law was on medication for 4-5 months before she gave birth. CO health statute requires the SS to provide services to pregnant women whom they feel are at risk, including drug (medication!) counseling etc. to prevent D&N filing at birth. Of course, no attempt was made to provide prenatal services. So there are two laws they have ignored.
Just because they don’t agree with her medical treatment gives them no right to take her baby illegally. That is the main reason I want to file a complaint.
Thanks again and good luck to all in this situation, keep a good paper trail and fight them all the way!
PS - a meeting is being held today to discuss the latest report. Just my sister in law and the SS worker. Scary thought! I will make sure a declaration of fact gets sent and filed to document the abuse she suffers from them!!!
Comment by Amy M. — February 5, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
DHCS is a division of some other human services office. Here, CPS is a division of DES, Dept of Economic Security; the unemployment, food stamp state office. DHCS should be within this same division in your area. Whatever dept. you make food stamp applications and unemployment applications to.
You can file a formal complaint with them. You can request a hearing with them to mediate the services you feel they are lacking in. Some complaint forms are available online with your local DES office.
However, govn’t wrote the laws and they were smart enough to protect govn’t at all cost. These complaint forms are general in nature and do not allow the “name dropping” we’d all like to use.
By requesting a mediation, you can keep it more informal and speak your peace…even name drop!
In regards to the rest; will they start going after you on otherkids. probably. But I’ll say this. I’ve learned that if I back off, the walk all over me. When I get tough right back at them, they are a lot more careful; they walk on eggshells around me. The are very careful not to arouse any more suspicion within me as long as I keep just as much pressure on them as they do me.
Being tough, if only on the outside, does help the case along smoother. They don’t nned to know that you cry when their not looking. You just can’t let on how really depressed you are.
We are ALL to be reunited very soon. The whole family. Then we all stick close to one another and relocate. The Judge has admonished CPS for it’s poor case management and petty petitions in trying to get even with us.
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
One more thing.
You can file diect with the state, but you will not be following “protocol”. It would be swept under the rug in a hearbeat. Then they may apply even more pressure to you knowing what afight you are capable of.
Skipping porotcol can be a deadend and just prolong things at a frustrating emotional level.
Stick to protocol.
1. DHCS supervisor
2. County Director
3. State DES/DHCS
Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
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Comment by h — February 5, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
Stacey Clayworth:
Group helping folks in PA challenge CYS illegalities:
http://www.headsheldhigh.org
Their phone # is on the Website. They are in Luzerne Co,. or Monroe Co, I believe.
Please write back and let us know if you got this message and what transpired.
Comment by Fern — February 5, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
To Tina:
Are you in Alaska?
There are advocates who help folks in 11 states. Alaska ( OCS) is one of those states.
Look at http://www.profane-justice.org
Under Advocates. There is a page which has listings for those women in 11 states who can help and advise folk.
The Website was started by Suzanne Shell, in Colorado, who has been battling DHS for close to 19 years.
Please write back here if you read and received this message and what went on with this.
Best.
Comment by Fern — February 5, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
Cheryl
thanks for the info. what is the date for the ralley?.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
Amy
I will keep your sister inlaw in prayer. I’m sorry to hear what has happened. that is so terrible. Stay strong and please continue to be there for her , she will need all of the help and support that she can get at this time. Let her know, not to say much to people about being depressed. you would be surprised at the people that can open their mouths and mess things up for her. Not everyone is truly concerned and wants the best for her. I had an aunt lie on me. Some people are jelous and mean. stay strong
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Diando,
The Jan. 08 postings are deleted now. Was that Aug 5th for the rally????
I don’t have the paper with me. Left it home with my other paper collection on this subject.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 7:59 am
The DC rally is August 15,16 and 17, 2008.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 11:24 am
The story aired but did not tell of all the medical complications that Rachel (my granddaughter) had after only 7 weeks in Foster Care.
Rachel still suffers from Asthma and is on 3 meds daily. When I got Rachel (my granddaughter) back she had, which doesn’t show in the report: Asthma, an Ear infection, Thrush of the mouth, Blisters in her mouth (a virus), Conjunctivitis, Colic and the rash on her bottom. Not only did CPS not get her any medical attention but also they denied it… I had to sign a paper that I would not discuss her medical condition with anyone other than her babysitter and the dr when she was returned to me. In court they lied to the Judge but got caught.
CPS also hid Rachel from her mother (my daughter). We were able to get an Investigative Reporter from Channel 13 to call CPS so my daughter could see her. This is when we discovered and video taped, Rachel’s medical needs that were being neglected. The Foster Parents then dropped off Rachel at the 24 Hour CPS facility on Hillcroft. The facility on Hillcroft did not seek medical attention for her either even after we requested that she be taken to the dr or emergency room…
Also, the week prior to the visit, when my daughter saw Rachel she was severely sunburned. It was also reported to us that she had a heart murmur and misshapen head, but had never been to a doctor. This diagnosis came from an unlicensed person from ECI, which is paid, by CPS to diagnose and monitor children’s growth and development.
During each visit with my daughter Rachel threw up continually. When Rachel was returned to me in the diaper bag was: A 1/2 empty Children’s Cough Medicine (she was only 5 months old), empty tube of Baby Gas X, an empty tube of some type of ointment and Orajel and soiled clothes.
We had a total of 6 caseworkers and 6 Supervisors. I ran a license check on each and everyone of them and not one of the caseworkers and only (1) of the Supervisors is licensed. The licensed Supervisor is the one in the video which denied my granddaughter medical attention.
Below is the link to the report from Channel 26.
htttp://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1ADC7192427E7323206D61359495109E?contentId=5687255&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
Comment by Diando — February 6, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
I am new at this site and do not know where to search for the Drug Testing Policy authorizing CPS to perform drug testing on suspecting parents.
Can anyone help or direct me to the Drug testing policy for Sacramento County?
Thanks.
John
Comment by John — February 6, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
I am a proud student working towards my degree to be a Child Abuse Investigator. I guess all of you believe it’s alright for a child to be raped when she is five by her father, or a boy’s hands be burned on a stove by his mother for accidently spilling his milk. It is because of people like you, if you can even label yourself as people, I vow with my complete heart to take children away from monsters like you for many years to come. And I also will be fighting to make laws where child abusers will get much harsher punishments for what they do to children. An eye for an eye seems like a good idea to me. I just pray you all realize how sick you really are for advocating child abuse.
Comment by Crystal — February 6, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
JOhn,
the drug testing policy is ONLY in their Procedures bokk. Under Law they cannot force you to test. However, they will present it as an automatic failure to a judge if you refuse.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Crystal-
I guess you don’t get this site very well. Really read some of the stories!
We are primarily saying that OUR children were not taken for good cause. There was no abuse. Merely low-income.
Really look into it and you’ll discover that CPS has NOT taken those children away from the mother who burns her kids hands…but has taken kids away from others for much less without abuse.
That is who we are. Those loving parents that may not make $50K per year but still manage to provide everything our children need and a few things they want.
We too wish CPS would concentrate on removing the right kids from the wrong parents.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
CPS in las vegas is worthless. My child is screaming every week to go to her fathers home. I’m screaming to cps to hear my child cries. CPS actually said that my child’s injuries weren’t at there standard! WHAT then returned her to her father for her only to get abused again. Then her father said “well.. her mother must have told her to say those things about me” and they actually dropped the charges and i’m back were i started a screaming sad child how much more does she have to endure! Does any one have any advice?
Comment by April — February 6, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
Crystal should make a great CPS investigator. She already has the drive and mindset that ALL OF US ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, that’s right…nobody in my case was ever charged with a crime!!! Nothing at all!!
Please read the constitution.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Crystal,
Wake up and watch the news!
CPS isn’t taking the babies in need or in danger. They don’t want those babies/children..
Go to the CPS report in Texas… It clearly states in the report not to take black children. To take white and spanish children.
It states “Blacks will not do the classes and do not care about their children and that black chidren are not easily adopted out and linger in the system”
“White people will do the classes ordered”
“Spanish people have numerous children and will do the classes and go to any lengths to get their children back”
You see CPS is audited every 3 years. They have to do a report and submit it to the Government. They must adopt out xxx number of children and have taken xxx amount of children in order to get their Government Funding.
The State of Texas received the largest sum of money ever and bigger than any other state ever in 2007.
CPS is nothing more than a Government Funded Child Stealing Ring!
I was told by a caseworker that “she needed my white baby”
They had her sold. Even before they took her!!!!
Comment by Diando — February 6, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Same here, Diando. Without thinking first, the 3rd case worker said “I really just need the 9 and 11 yr old, not the teenagers. but I guess I’ll have to take the good with the bad”. She said those words so matter-of-factly.
How dare she talk about my grandchildren that way. Good/bad? What was she thinking!
Why? Because at age 9 and over in my state, the Feds pay my state $525,000 per kid over 9 if adopted to a non-relative! And she had one all lined up she made clear. These people KNEW my grandkids and wanted them and their cash flow each month that generously came with them.
Our AZ Audit of 2005 reads the same as TX generally. It did however note several un-warranted intrusions on families that “DID NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR REMOVAL” and required improvement in this area by investigators. It found un-specified amounts of welfare funds (to be independatley audited) squandered on un-needed services.
To be honest, you can’t change Cyrstals mind about us. Her mindset is already grim on people. Note the choice of words. They are a carelessly thought out as the case workers who said those awful things to us.
If she really wants to make a difference, she needs to start within by taking some of those classes CPS forces upon us without cause.
Then she wouldn’t be so calous.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Crystal
Live a little and be in the system and you will see for yourself. I’m too exhausted to even explain. all that i can say is that No weapon formed against me shall prosper and every toungue that rises up against me shall be condemned. My children are loved and blessed to have a mom like me. I am a great person. I’m not tring to convince you but you should watch how you label. It could be you one day who just gets sick and dcf lies on. One never knows what life will bring their way. I sure never expected this. I thought only child abusers had their children removed from them. Boy was i wrong. so keep running your mouth and maybe your daughters chldren or their children will follow the same fate. Life has a way of teaching us lessons that we refuse to study up on. Then you will hear yourself sobbing and saying.. oh yeah. that is how they felt. I’m telling you. what goes around comes back around and sometimes it does’nt happen to you persay but to someone that you love. that to me is all the more sorrowful because you think, they did’nt even do anything. It was me and my foolishness. God bless and remember what energy you place out there is waiting for the return. to your loved one
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Cheryl
you know what, it’s been going on over 3 years and i’m still fighting to bring my children home. the judge does’nt want to terminate my rights but you know what . Everytime i go to court the dcf attorney and workers look upset like why does she still keep comming. and why is she here. I am african american and i think that they did not expect for me to travel back and forth and keep documented records etc. it’s amazing. Also i have seen alot of people give up. I knew a few people who got on drugs to deal with the pain. I watched their whole life change. The woman has been in prison twice. The sad thing is that she did everything that they told her to do. she got the beds i mean she went to couneling. she had no problem but when dcf got finished with her, she had a ton of problems which she left the church and went back into the world. Now she’s in jail. I’ve seen some sad lie stories told in the african american community. I don’t know about texas but everywhere else they take african american children and place them. there are alot of african american foster homes. They placed two of my children in a caucasian home and they were abused. i grew up in that town. there were only 4 african american families in the whole suburb. i knew it to be a prejudice place . i told dcf this and still they left them there and my children were abused sexually. then they still sent them back and after some months past my worker said that something was wrong and that he won’t be sending any other children to that family. they now placed my son on something they called psycosexual drugs. my dr said there is no such drug. on my paper work that is how they labeled the drug. I never knew that he was on any drug. He is a great kid and he was labeled and not able to go to some schools and be around other children due to his behavior. The behavior came from dcf neglect
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 3:02 pm
Cheryl
It’s obvious that crystal did’nt come here to find out the truth but only to condemn families. We have put up with enough abuse from dcf. she is’nt even a worker yet and she’s already on the battlefield of hell. We do such a good job by informing one another. what crystal did and said was a form of mental abuse. Some of us are already weak and don’t need negative talk. she is a thron ment to throw up off of the topics and to make us miss our blessing, which is each other. She is sent by satan alone to get us confused and wrapped up in argueing with her . she wants no truth, only confusion. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. It’s sad. but i guess that life will have to teach her. she may need a drug test herself so that she can stay up all night studing how to be evil. never know mrs. crystal what skeletons you have in your closet. what , did someone rape you or abuse you and now instead of you being a resource , you have decided to be a bullet to innocent people… well i can’t help but to tell you. With an attitude like that. you are definitly on the wrong track and i will give you not one more inch of my precious time… I have children to bring home
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Mattia-
As long as you continue to show up in court, document things, go to every meeting, they will be upset with you. You pose a threat and they know it. The Judge knows it and won’t terminate your rights. He must not see their point in termination.
This DOES make a difference. In my state, they have to either return the children, assign a relative as guardian or terminate parents rights within 24 months. AT 24 months, if the case is not closed, the judge must return the kids and close the case as is.
It sounds as though your state does not have time limits in place.
Not to sound mean here…but being of color has nothing to do with it…really. I drove 189 miles one way every court date and meeting of any kind since Nov. 06. It was just as hard on me as you. And I really don’t think that a foster parent abuser cares if the child is black or white or red. They only see sexual preference. If it was going to happen it could have happen anywhere.
I’m not at all predijust, can you tell?
I’d be willing to guess that teh drugs they have him on are similar to those used in Mental Hospitals to control sexual urges in male inmates. Salt peter, if you will. They just stop erections and the like.
But I disagree with putting a young child on such a drug. It would not surprise me that they could do this to a teen, however.
You just have to keep going and keep the faith.
What goes around does come around. I’ve seen it personally and benefit from it every day.
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 3:22 pm
We should just all ignore Crystal. She’s obviously here for a research paper for school.
Don’t we all have enough to pay better attention to?
Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
John
It does’nt look good to refuse a drug test. you should watch closely your specimen. I would not trust them with it. Request to use a dr office that they are’nt paying for. Use you own doctor.. god be with you. All will be fine. I’m praying for your family
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 6:32 pm
To all of you new people to the site (excluding Crystalmeth) please listen to Cheryl and Diando. They know the TRUTH! My kids were taken for NO reason, NO ABUSE EVER HAPPEND. Just flimsy hearsay about neglect that would never hold up in a court of law. We are poor (even poorer now that we have to pay $900 a month child support. This system must be abolished! William Wagoner of onsecondthought.tv just did an interview with Ron Paul & he is the ONLY candidate running who says he will eliminate Title IV funding (the right for government to steal children from families). The interview is on daddyblogger.com!
Comment by Susan — February 6, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
susan
How long did they keep the case open. Is the case closed forever now? Stay strong and god bless
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 6:52 am
If they give you a drug test or a hair folicle test, immediately, and I mean immediately go and have an independent test done.
They are falsifying drug tests here in Texas.
People that never even gave urine in the hospital are being told that they tested positive for cocaine.
I also know of another person that this has happened to. She was given the hair folicle test at the courthouse and they took her child stating that she tested positive for cocaine.
She had the test redone on her own and came out negative..
CPS kept trying to get my daughter to take a drug test at a different location than where she was taking them which was an 1 1/2 hr away from her home..
I fully believe that this was in a last ditch effort to set her up.. We fought the drug testing since she was doing it 2 times a week at a place close to her home…
God Bless everyone here!!!!
I’m sorry to hear your case is closed Susan… See ya at the Rally?
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:25 am
Susan,
Do you plan to reopen it? I don’t know how but am willing to help you in any way I can!!
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:50 am
They had my daughter and son-in-law taking 5 drug tests per week!!! EVen though they had never tested positive to begin with.
There was some knowledge that the area they were renting their home in, had a problme with drug sales, etc.
So CPS insisted that they had to exonerate themselves simply becuase they lived near this neighborhood.
I supose they were also hoping that at some point, they would be so frustrated with the classes, loss of work, child support etc., that they WOULD turn to drugs or alcohol. Though they sure thought about a drink once in a while to help with the pain of it all.
That never happened. We stayed together as a family and stayed strong. We prayed every day for strength. I called every day a 4:30 to be sure they were still holding storng.
Family presence has a lot to do with tthe sucess of getting through all of this garbage.
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:05 am
Mattia,
They used to take black children but as per their last report they have too many of them now and they linger in the system.
It also clearly states that the parents will not do the classes etc….
The State makes alot of money from the classes etc..
It is really sad to watch the news on Channel 11 here. There is a reporter that reports alot on black children that are in the system but given back or never even taken and go home and dye.. He seems to think it is a racial issue, but it isn’t, it is a MONEY issue.
There was a report on the news awhile back where the police had called CPS out to a drug house (not black people) 3 seperate occasions and CPS never showed.
The corruption is just that, corruption… CPS does not want any children in which they don’t think the parents will participate and do the classes and see the shrinks.
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:09 am
Cheryl,
Your right about the family presence. It was brought up several times that my husband and I were there for every court date.
They will try to divide and conquer!!
The 1st thing they told my son-in-law was to leave my daughter and he could get the baby (this is what the Judge told him).
They got married instead! Do not seperate as that is what they want and the way that they are able to tear you down and apart quicker!
And CPS calls this Family Reunification!!!!!!!!!!! pffffst
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:13 am
CPS only makes money IF the parents comply and IF the kids don’t rot in the system.
Kids that stay in the system that cannot be easily adopted out, do not qualify for Fed. re-imbursement to the state.
The state counts on that money to pay for kids medical care, food, clothing, etc.
If they can’t get the Fed. money, these kids are a drain on the states resources and economy.
It really is ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$$$$.
Hate to put it so bluntly, but that’s it in a nutshell.
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:21 am
It’s true!!!!!!!!!!
$$$$$ that’s all this is about….
They could care less about the welfare of your children!
They almost killed my Granddaughter and didn’t even blink an eye!
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:30 am
CPS cut off funding for my daughters drug testing in November.
My son-in-law only took the ones in court..
Right before court I had them go do a hair folicle test.
The case worker called 2 days before court telling them that they havn’t done any drug testing lately..
My son-in-law told her “yes we did one just the other day”
The caseworker got irate… She then called my daughter and told her that it wouldn’t be valid and doesn’t count…
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:33 am
CPS and the Judge said the same thing to my son-in-law. The said if he divorced my daughter, he could have all 4 kids back.
They really had no intention of giving back those kids. He is a 10 year reformed alcoholic! They brought up his past many times.
They may have given them back then but they’d be watching and waiting for the time to strike and remove those kids from him again. I’d have been surprised if he had the kids a month! We all know it.
Instead, they renewed their vows 1/2 way into this!
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:34 am
I just want to reinterate the importance of following up every single phone call and meeting with a fax and fax confirmation, an e-mail or certified letter.
If you do not agree with what the Caseworker is telling you to do, then use your best judgement…
But always follow up with a letter, fax or email…
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:48 am
Crystal,
What you said “I guess all of you believe it’s alright for a child to be raped when she is five by her father, or a boy’s hands be burned on a stove by his mother for accidently spilling his milk”.
This is a text book phrase…. I guess they havn’t come up with any new and real crimes against children yet!
Look around you… there is abuse everywhere. Children dying and being killed everyday…
A baby put in a microwave, a babies head being stomped in, a baby being brutally murdered and shoved in a plastic box in a storage shed for a month and then dumped in Galveston, TX…
All three of these cases (in the past 3 months) the parents had mental problems…
Where was CPS? They are spending all of their time on us.. The loving parents and grandparents and ignoring the real problems!!
Why? For the money!
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 11:00 am
My mother & her controlling ‘partner’ have permanent custody of our 3 kids. My mother said she doesn’t want to raise them forever but I can’t believe anything anymore. She can’t even speak to me w/o her ‘partner’ being in the same room or listening in the background during phone conversations. This is CONTROL no matter what kind of relationship. Control is a BAD thing! I have contacted a law firm in Plano, TX who is very expensive, but is willing to branch out to other states. I may have to grovel to my dad in Dallas & to my husband’s brother who are both very well off. DHS even made me undergo drug testing while I’ve NEVER had substance abuse issues! That was so HUMILIATING. They said I had a ‘blank expression’. What the F^&K do they want me to look like after snatching my kids & suffering all of their abuse? I’m way worse off now than ever.
Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:02 am
Oh yea, I forgot to mention, that when my mom first got custody, she changed my son’s dr. who had been his doc since birth & also change his child care. He was going to SPIN which was free, into a daycare center that costs big buck$. weird huh?
Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Susan,
No, it isn’t really weird that they changed those things.
In a free daycare, if it is paid for by the State then it is monitored…
If she were to make a mistake the children would be snatched up by CPS… the case reopened and you possibly get your kids back. Although, there could be another twist and they be put into Foster Care.
As far as the blank expression? That’s because they are heartless… They do not know what it is to love or be loved…
Best of luck with the new attorney.
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Thanks, I also just emailed another law firm in Arlington (a suburb of Dallas) that only charges a $75 consultation fee instead of Stuckle’s 5 grand which we can NEVER afford. I’m hoping for my husband, kids, & I to go to Dallas in March on Spring Break, but we have to get permission from my mother (hopefully without Pat present!) I hope my dad helps us since he don’t agree with all this bs anyways!
Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:20 am
Susan-
It sounds like before your mom got the kids, you two had a fair relationship. Is that right?
So bare with your mom. It could be she and the partner (rather you like him or not) are looking out for your best interest. It is normal to remove the kids from patterns CPS already knows about such as child care and doctors.
Without new permissions drawn up, CPS cannot just walk in to the new Dr. and demand anything, nor the child care center. It proctects your kids from further abuse in the system.
I found the need to do the same and my daughter and I have a fantastic releationship! We are even closer now than ever! She learned to un-equivicably trust me to do what was best for getting the kids home to her ultimately.
But I took the time to explain to her that we would do as we saw fit to protect the kids from CPS grips and preserve OUR right to raise them in lieu of her and her husband if it came to pass.
You have to understand (I can see it in your writings), you are extremely upset and emotional; as you should be. Your mother knows that, too. Anything you say or do will be used against you be CPS. Your mom can best judge your state of mind in phone calls and help to keep you away from trouble that day; before CPS finds out and uses it. Her partner is her witness that your and she did nothing wrong. If he sees the talk getting of course, he may correct it; yes that comes of controling. But it is for good reason. He is looking out for everyone’s interest.
If we had violated anything CPS was demanding of us, we could have disqualified ourselves as future fosters’ to our own family. Not knowing what the future would bring, we played it safe.
In the long run, it worked out AND we got the bonus that we had allowed CPS workers enough rope to hang themselves.
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
Cheryl,
I know of Susans case. It is a bit different. Howver, you did bring up a very good point..
As you did with your daughter I had to do the same with mine. She was very angry at me for having her baby..
We did have several arguments.. I had to reinterate to her time and time again that it was me or Foster Care, which do you choose?
And that the ultimate goal was for her and her husband to get her back.. I did not want to raise her for I have raised my children and believe that she should be raised by her God Given Parents..
Also, how did you go about finding your attorney?
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
Diando-
I was just in the right place at the right time.
After court, the CPS case worker said “prove that the foster parents are drug users etc.” So I did.
I asked a secrectary for that judge if he had one her used regularly. I called him. Hired him.
The deeper he got into it, the more he smelled a lawsuit. he knew the attorney and confronted him.
We didn’t even know about it until days later when the PI called to report to me. Then he said, “oh by the way; you have an attorney if you want him”.
I screamed “hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!”
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 1:39 pm
My name is Jesse and my daughter and I have been mistreated by DCS of Campbell County Tennessee. (Melia Henegar was the social worker’s name).
We have been fighting in court now for two years. One year of that was fighting against DCS.
My daughter lives with her mother and I in a split custody arrangement. Her mother has a girlfriend that lives there with them. One evening when I picked up my daughter, she had bruises on both arms in the form of hand prints. I excused the matter because I thought that it came from playing with other kids. A day later my daughter told me her mother’s girlfriend had hurt her arm and had shaken her. We mesured the fingerprints and assumed that the girlfriend caused the bruising. We called DCS (of Anderson County, talked to Don Orange) and was told that they would do nothing about it.
A few days later, my daughter told her great grandmother (this is who she stays with when I am at work) that her mother and her mother’s girlfriend had touched her and hurt her, when asked where they hurt her she pointed to her privates. DCS of Campbell County was called (where my daughter’s mother lives) and the next thing I know is I’m getting a call from them saying I need to bring my daughter to them for an appointment.
Melia Henegar then talked to us and to my daughter, later saying that my daughter told her the same story. She told me to take her to the doctor (but didn’t say where) I found out she needed to go to Children’s Hospital. Once we arrived there, I gave them the paperwork from DCS and they examined my daughter. They said my daughter had injuries consistant with sexual abuse, and neglect.
In the meantime DCS had already allowed my daughter contact with her mother and the girlfriend. We ended up in court were supervised visitation was set up but instead of a DCS person supervising, they got my daughter’s mother’s mom to do the supervision. DCS was instructed by Children’s Hospital to have my daughter examined be a specialist ASAP. Melia Henegar would not answer her phone when Children’s Hospital called, so I ended up taking the paperwork to her the following Monday (January 8th 2007) where I was told they would have my daughter examined in a week. In the meantime, my daughter was still being allowed by DCS to have contact with her mother and the girlfriend. An interview with another social worker at Reaches was done a week later and at this point my daughter was saying nothing had happened. I told Reaches that Melia Henegar from DCS had allowed my daughter to be around her mother and the girlfriend and that it was funny all of a sudden “nothng happened”. They didn’t have my daughter examined until a month later where the examiner said that there was no evidence of abuse. (because she didn’t get to examine my daughter right after the fact.
DCS dropped the case and my daughter was sent back to her mothers house.
I then suit, got me an affidavitt from the hospital and we ended up in court again. I had also contacted the state about Melia Henegar and her misshandling of my daughter’s case.
Melia never bothered to talk to the doctor, or even get the medical records from Children’s Hospital. Melia lied on the stand (the judge didn’t do anything about it>?) and said she had a copy of the records and had talked to the doctor and she had not. When we presented the report Melia named a doctor that she had talked to and said it was the doctor that examined my daughter. The person she named was a nurse. The judge pointed this out to her, and asked her several times to correct her story. The judge ordered that she re-envestigate.
A few days later I get a message on my cell phone from Melia saying I need to come sign some papers to grant my daughter’s mother her supervised vistitation. I left work and went to DCS. Melia with a grin on her face then tells me she is going to take my daughter away from me! She put my daughter in her mother’s mom’s care and in her mother’s bet friend’s care and would not set me up any visitation! My lawyer instantly set up a court date because Melia did this to ge revenge because we made her look stupid in court. (those of you who have used a good lawyer know that instanly means in a few weeks, three to be exact.) I didn’t get to see my daughter for three weeks, and I tried to get the people she was staying with to meet me or to set up something myself because Melia Henegar would not set up visitation. (She set up visitation for my daughter’s mother the next day after the incident)
Anyway we got to court and Melia had brought all these people to testify against me. Well, I brought the affidavitt I takled about earlier. Then some people from the state walked in!
Once we submitted the affidavitt DCS promptly dropped the case even though my lawyer advised them against it.
Melia Henegar discriminated against me for being “the father” as she put it.
So we launched our own investigation, at this point it had already been a year. But we were requested by the judge to see a forensic phsycologist.
That went terrible also because the doctor we saw would not listen to me at all. She even told me that the mother had the advantage because she talked to her first. This lady (Diana McCoy) yelled at me, and would not let me talk. (she would just talk over me.) all this in the first five minutes that she was examining me; Diana had already decided that I was a homophobe, prejiduce and hostile person. (said she was basing it on emails I sent back when me and my wife spit up in 2006!)
I tried to tell her that emails could be edited and that the emails were over a year old. Diana wouldn’t listen, wouldn’t consider the physical evidence we had. She told me later that my daughter said nobody touched her. I tried to tell her that her mother had conditioned her to not say anything (for a year now even) and she said that her mother wouldn’t do that ! The goes on to tell me because of the emails that I would try and get my daughter to say things!
So I did some research and found out that Diana McCoy is too, affiliated with DCS. (on top of that she works for the state)
So now currently, my daughter is back in the home with her mother. Now that the evidence is a year old, the restraining order was dropped against the girlfriend and she is back there too. We go back to court in March. I just want my daughter to be happy and safe.
If anyone has any advice, please let me know. I have a great lawyer, but when you are “just the father” as they put it, it is still hard to get anywhere.
I love my daughter more than anyone else on Earth, and would absolutley die for her. I want her to do good and not be damaged.
I am so tired of being discriminated against because I am her Father!!!!
Comment by Jesse — February 7, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
sorry for the type-os, I was in a hurrry!
Comment by Jesse — February 7, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Cheryl
The race thing i was referring to was what you were talking about in texas. The way that they won’t take many african americans because it’s harder to place them. That was what i was referring to. No affence was taken. thanks i will keep documenting and following the proper steps. Thanks again
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
Jesse
could’nt you hire a private investigator who could follow them and record stuff that you would not be able to do yourself? I know that it may be expensive but it could help
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
Diando
I can see what you mean . I saw alot of people just give up. They can discourgae the heck out of your. I do get to speak with my children every day which i had to fight for for years. they were’nt happy about it. They keep check to see if i always call the children everyday. It’s helped us to stay close, even though we are apart. Thoes telephone conversations are a great help. Thanks diando for the info
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:40 pm
Cheryl
That is rediculious , five drug tests. It seems to me that they were tring to intimidate as well as aggrevate the family. I don’t know how they live with themselves, the ones who are jerks anyway. They definitly try to push you over the edge.They always ask me how am i making it through and i tell them. Prayer. and spending time with god and helping people. They had the nerve to put in my paper work that i pray. I mean come on. Give me a break. You can’t even pray without them accusing you of a religious fanatic. I’m so glad that it did’nt work on your family and that you were able to stay together and strong. They definitly try to play the family against each other
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Susan
I was in a familiar situation. My mother and her husband. He does the exact same thing to me. exact and my mom lets him and stays queit. Still it is best for the kids to be with her rather than in the system. you don’t want that. I wish i could have that choice
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
Mattia-
Yes they had to report every day before 4:30 for urine samples. Imagine, you are tested the day they take your kids (by hair folicle which tests the last 6 months), test negative and still have to test every day for 15 months. They are still testing 2 days per week even as this case is closing.
It took from Nov 06 to Aug 07 to get them reduced to 3 per week + 1 random.
It was all designed to drive us over the edge and play us against each other. Despite everything, we NEVER fought with each other; not once!
We had our faith. And Yes they wrote in our file that we were interfering in the childrens’ freedom of choice by asking them to attend church and pray, even while in foster care.
Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
DHS HATES RELIGION! They got very offended when I spoke to the kids about it during stupid supervised visitation. Cheryl, my mother’s partner is a man-wannabe, not an actual male
I think there is jealousy involved here like there has been with my mother’s other girlfriends. Here, the foster parents DO NOT attend church with foster kids. This political correctness garbage is nauseating. Jesse, I feel your pain. Lezbian relationships have child abuse as well!
Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Diando, about DHS being racist, just made me wonder why we haven’t seen many folks from Louisiana on these anti-cps chat boards? Where were those ‘child-saving heros’ during Katrina? Here in Colorado, DHS are just unlicensed white-trash feminazis!
Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
God be with them. Scripture say suffer not the little ones to come unto him. Oh well. We are in a bad time when people can lie and take our children away and be alright with it
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
They only made my daughter do the UA’s once a week. She offered to do it the other times. Sometimes she did up to three a week, funded by the State.
My daughter and son in law took a hair folicle test at the court house the day after CPS took their child and were clean.. But it did not matter!
I believe that they make money from the tests as well, if you go where they tell you to go. Also, as I said before they rig them here as well..
My daughter went through State Funded Agencies rather than a Government (CPS) agency. They never took a class where the caseworker told them they had to go.
It pissed them off royally but they could not refuse the certificates because they were state registered classes, and teachers, counselours!
My daughter and son-in-law did all of the classes and some twice. But, they did them through State Agencies so the CPS didn’t have any control.
You can choose where you take the classes as long as they have the CPS Guidelines.
So, I guess what I’m saying is check around when you are ordered to take a class. You don’t have to go where they say.
They even refused to submit the paperwork etc.. in order to keep my kids from going to the other classes. But, we found ways around it.
We sent lots of letters and faxes to cover our butts..
CPS even told us that the counselors were not cooperating with them and not turning in the paperwork. They finally left a message on my daughters cell phone stating that.
That is one of the times the caseworker and her supervisor hung theirselves.
It pissed the counselor off when he heard it. He had faxed the paperwork for 3 days in a row.
It’s harrassment and nothing more. They were trying to get my daughter to go to one of their agencies to do a drug screening. I’m sure she would have turned up positive had she done it..
They cut off the State Funding so they could say that they hadn’t been tested and prolong the case further.
But, as I said prior I sent them to do a hair test on their own right before court…
It pays to stay one step ahead of them… In court the DA did not do as the Judge had asked. But, I went and got the stuff that the Judge asked for on my own. Our case got closed that day and the DA got yelled at.
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
Jesse my heart really goes out to you and your daughter. Yes CPS HATES fathers and automaticlly if you are a father you are nothing more than a sperm donor and a wallet. That is it. It is the same experience we have going on here for the last 2 years. Even though my boyfriends ex wife is a worthless piece of dirt. She will not take care of the child at all, the childs behavior has rappidly declined to the point where she is hurting herself and is a danger to others, her therapist is talking about puting her in a home for girls, mom is still the best placement for her. Yes it may be a fact that while she was living with us she was doing well and now she is clearly not that doesn’t matter mom’s are better. I don’t know what to tell ya cause we have been fighting this one for sometime now and all the evidence is in our favor yet somehow we still don’t have the child and dad gets 1 whole hour some weeks, usually he doesn’t even get that. He is being forced to just sit there and watch this woman distroy his daughter and there isn’t a damn thing he can do. I suggest googling fathers rights there may be one org around you than may be able to help.
Comment by Debbie — February 7, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
my grandchildren were stolen from my daughter and our family in may of 2004 . that was one of worst days of our lives.my daughter has bi-polar and chooses writeing,deep breathing,and music to help her deal with this disorder. instead of mind altering medications that made her feel worse .these cps workers lied about my daughter and have made many false allegations against my daughter.she is so distraught she loves and misses her babies . we are looking for support in these unbeliveable and unbearable times .
Comment by mary ehrman — February 7, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
Please pray for Michael Rowe, who is a victim of the social service system. His story can be read at the website we have set up for him at; http://www.corruptionofmichael.com
It would take a book to tell the horrors of the corrupt probate courts and how they use “runners” (APS workers) to recruit innocent disabled persons then force them under state guardianships then court order them to horrid institutions, for profit. The wards of the court (Michael) are denied all rights, even visits from those closest and dearest to them, from family members, and denied even pastoral visits. It is nothing but a dirty racket of using humans for profit, while the corrupt cash in. Please send Mikes web site to other victims of the system. Mike needs all of your prayers. He is dying in there, and nobody will help. It has been since 1998 Mike has been held as a literal hostage, like in a concentration camp. Only worse, there was an end to that suffering but not so for poor Michael Rowe. You may write to me at prayersformichael@yahoo.com
thankyou, Katie Morris (Mikes dear friend and advocate)
Comment by katie morris — February 7, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
Jesse,
I agree with Debbie. CPS hates men… At the second meeting with CPS, the caseworker saw me first.
She told me that my son in law was abusive and violent… I told her no he isn’t.
Well, she proceeded to tell me that the last time him and my daughter were there that they had a screaming match and he was verbally abusing her and that he threw the baby blanket at her and it hit the baby in the face… Yes, a baby blanket.
This never happened! She then proceeded to tell me that she had a witness and that she was going to get my daughter to confess to it..
I told her she was wrong… Didn’t matter.. She then took my daughter in the room and told her that she saw my son in law punch her in the face.
She said no he did not and if he had then why didn’t you call the police then.
This went on for hours. Next thing we knew there were court (CPS) papers in the mail stating that they saw and have founded that my son in law was verbaly, mentally and physically violent.
Of course there is more to it then that.. But, the point is…. He isn’t any of those things.
Hang in there. If you can do as Cheryl stated and hire a private investigator…
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
Mary,
Have they terminated your daughters rights?
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
In Texas the caseworkers are black, indian and every now and then they will throw in a token white or token spanish…
At first I thought it was a racial issue. But, later found out that there was much more to it… $$$$$$$$$$…. The almighty dollar..
These people are going to rot in HELL!!!
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:29 pm
I don’t understand how they can look at themselves in the mirror….
They are all EVIL!
Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:29 pm
yes but we have never been given any paper work and she never signed anything thats what was ordered in court
Comment by mary ehrman — February 7, 2008 @ 7:36 pm
we too have a serious issue with dcf , safe children coalation,guardian ad litem here in sarasota county florida we are about to win our fight for our twin granbabies after a year of lies , Although we have made it a crusuade to continue even after we gain custody of our grandbabies. THESE FAMILY WRECKERS MUST BE STOPPED. To all involved in such children cases DO NOT GIVE UP. keep kicking on doors such as we have, sooner or later you will have hit the right one. God Bless All
Comment by Greg & Lisa Williamson — February 7, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
Mattia, Diando—
I just got the papers faxed over for guardianship of the 2 grandaughters. They do not read at all like we agreed to in open court with the judges approval.
Was supposed to be temporary guardianship with the right to return them to their parents and dismiss the order when we, the family, felt it was time to do so.
These say permanent guardianship without the ability to return them to parents unless we re-open the CPS case. Like We would ever consider that an option!!!!!!!!
It also awards money for clothes, medical care, education, etc. I don’t want their money! That would tie us to the state again. And I know at some point they would attach the parents for re-imbursment. I have perfectly good medical, dental and vision thank you very much. And our income is nothing to sneeze at. They will have whatever they need without an issue.
Also the affidavit attached has a questionaire to reply to. Funny, the guardianship papers are in both our names, but the affidavit is only in my name and only asks questions about me having been a conservator in the past. I never told anyone about that. So how did they know that unless they have been snooping where they don’t belong?
How I care for my mother in hospice is none of their business. It has nothing to do with the guardianship; she is in a nursing home with alzheimers.
I am having my attorneys look at these before I sign or answer anything. I believe that any attorney involved in the open case can be the one to create the paperwork. I’d trust our attorneys 1st!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2008 @ 8:03 am
Cheryl
I really think that they depend on people not reading the paperwork before signing. I don’t blame you, i would’nt reopen the case with them either. it’s a shame that this so called professional gov agency operates it’s business in this manner. It’s sad , you would think that this would happen in some foreign country but not in the states.. it’s sad
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 8, 2008 @ 8:13 am
Dumb clucks never asked what I do for a living, or my finances, but want to know all aout an 87 yr old dying woman!
I use my paralegal training in Contract Law!!!
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2008 @ 8:22 am
Cheryl,
That never do as agreed upon in court. I personally would not sign them.. But, request another court hearing with the Judge..
As far as accepting help… We told them to go to hell that all we needed was for them to get the hell out of our lives…
I did however, have my daughter and son in law write checks to the daycare and buy the diapers and formula and keep the receipts. It later looked good in court.
I had to answer Interrogatory Answers. The questions were such as my income, the names dates and birthdates of all my children and every man that I have ever slept with in my life. What each and every bill I pay, what type and year of vehicle I drove, my arrest record, how much I spend in groceries in a month, have I ever had a speeding ticket, etc…
Yes, they did ask for that! They asked for everything but what color my poop is..
They did not ask about my husband or his income so I kept that a secret…
They are trying to find something against you and disqualify you so they can adopt the children out.
They had nothing on me!
They even lied in court about doing a background check on my husband and I.
They told the judge they hadn’t done one in order to post phone the case further. But they had!
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 8:24 am
Also, there was a date by when they had to have them… or I would not get temporary custody..
They kept telling me up to the last minute that they did not receive them..
I sent them certified. Then they told me they only received one or two pages etc..
They are full of tricks!
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 8:26 am
As far as the money being awarded, that is how they intice grandparents etc.. to sign the papers and keep the children..
That is what happened to Susan. They got real used to the money… And there was alot of it…
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 8:29 am
Diando-
They are fishing with these questions; I can see it…
They are hard pressed to find out anything bad.
I never ever used drugs even as a teen in 1970.
I never terminated a pregnancy. I gave birth to my only boy at 27 years old, when I was ready to be mom.
I’ve NEVER had 1 ticket. Not even a parking ticket. In fact I’ve only been pulled over once; and that was the cop being nice to tell me I had a broken shock in the right rear of the car. I am clean for over 32 yrs of driving. (knocking on wood now)
I have never been questioned by police for anything and certainly not arrested.
We pay well over $10K in taxes each year and pay quarterly to avoid trouble with the IRS at year end and interest or penalties.
We have been self employed sucessfully since 1993. Granted, I still work, but I’d go crazy sitting around if I didn’t. And I love my job!
I’ve been here 14 years now and have excellent bene’s so that I cab work hard to put away $ for retirement.
We own absolutley everything we have but 1 thing. No car or truck or trailer or semi payments. We have a small payment on the Harley Davidson.
The home is sizable and currently has 2 spare unused bedrooms. Both baths are currently being renovated. Almost done. The kitchen is all done now.
The uncles ad Aunts to these children also have NO TICKETS and NO ARRESTS ever!!!! I guess that means we are all a goo influence, huh?
It won’t shock me what they’ll try to drum up. I’ll be ready.
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2008 @ 8:51 am
Well, your doing better than me… I was arrested in 1988 for DWI. I was going through a divorce from an abusive husband. I know that is no excuse…
We have lots of things but nothing paid for… LOL! I would hurry and finish the bathrooms as they will use that against you.
Also, make sure to never have dirty dishes in the sink and no laundry piled up…
The 1st thing the caseworker always did was come into my kitchen using the excuse she needed to wash her hands… What was wrong with the bathroom? Thats what most people would do!
Anyway, just be careful of how you answer the questions… What does your lawyer say about the papers..
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 9:20 am
Also, I video taped and audio recorded everything.
They run from the video camera…. LOL! Just put it on the bar or wherever and have them sit where they can be shot…
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 9:21 am
I am a virgo. LOL I can’t stand 1 dish sitting in either of the kitchen sinks. We renovated the laundry room last year when we did the kitchen. I never have laundry laying around. We actually use our rolling hampers. I roll them into the laumdry room ONLY when I intend on doing a load or to.
My baths will be done this weekend. We pre-ordered the cabinets, tubs, toliets and storage chests 2 months ago. Then we bought the faucets, tubs, rain showers and hardware. The marble shower tile was done 2 days ago.
All that is left to install is 1 cabinet and 2 toliets. 2 hours maybe.
I have been thru at least 12 inspections 2007, and not once could they find an issue. They even went to the butlers pantry and opened all my cupboards to check for stocked foods. Went thru both fridges and the extra freezer.
Yes, I am kinda a health nut and neat freak! LOL!!!
I have not signed either and I have not answered 1 question on the paper. I faxed to my attorney to review first. Then we’ll either do it or file a new one.
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2008 @ 9:50 am
I’m aquarius… I can’t stand one dish in the sink either. But, laundry, ish, I don’t mind washing and drying. But when it comes to folding and putting away….. ick…. I lack… LOL!
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 10:05 am
I’m a slob but my grouchy husband is even sloppier
Cheryl, you do not have to reveal ANY information about your mother to cps. We have aps (adult protection serivice) here too & they are just as bad. I’m a cna/home care provider and they forced one of my clients to go into a nursing home last summer just for walking her dog! They said she had dementia & was wandering! They also forced my friend’s mother into a nursing home because they didn’t like the way she was being cared for at home (my friend is also a cna with a spotless house!) Anyway the mother eventually died in a nursing home. I work at one on the graveyard shift & the residents get great care, but it’s still better to remain at home as long as possible. I’d like to see some of the cps nazis wind up in one though!
Comment by Susan — February 8, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
My 2 children ages 2 and 7 mos. were removed from my home due to an unexplainable injury my 7 month old son aquired. Suspician automatically fell on my husband(statistics) although there were three other adults in my home at the time. None of the other adults were questioned and my children were put into the care of one of these adults 2 days after the injury. Our intake worker and LEA both falsified court documents. Including stating that my husband and I had been found guilty of child abuse. We had never had a DHS referral, our children were healthy and well cared for. It took us 1yr and 3dys to get our children back. 2 wks after fighting tooth and nail to keep our children out of our home DHS failed to show up at the childrens permanancy hearing. The sensable judge dismissed our case stating DHS did not know what they were doing with these kinds of cases and needs to be reformed so tragedies like 2 babies being with held from thier perfectly good parents for a year did not happen any more. We missed my sons 1st birthday, christmas and thanksgiving. Now we owe the state $15,000 in back child support. This is one of the many many reasons DHS needs reform
Comment by Nicole Ingraham — February 8, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
It’s nice to hear that somebody other than us got their children back…
It very rarely happens…
Comment by Diando — February 8, 2008 @ 2:06 pm
That’s kind of how I got her, the police back home were calling my brother to take care of her better. Neighbors would see her walking the dog and wobbling from side to side. They reported her to the constables, who called state patrol in the nearest city.
She has arthritis, a false shoulder cuff and an artificail knee at 83 years old. She was overweight and only 5′1″ tall. Of course, she wobbles. I think they could have called my brother instead of the police to begin with.
The police started complaining with good reason about the lack of care she was receiving from my brother, so they found me across the country and told me that if I did not come back and take her, they would have her committed. She was also hearing and seeing things.
I went back, found my brother and his wife had been stealing from her, as did the probate judge, and got conservatorship. We left in 6 days.
Unitl last year, I was taking full care of her. But then her faculties were gone. She needed even more than I could give. I had to recognize that and get her into a home for her own safety.
Most days she sits there and either yells or sings. Nothing that makes any sense. She has no idea who anyone is for more than 15 sec’s on avg. Not even me. And I vist 2-3 times a week.
But I notice a smile come to her face when I walk in. SO deep down she must know something about me.
I just keep reminding myself, it is the disease, not her. Still it’s been tough going thru all of this at the same time.
Comment by Cheryl — February 8, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Alzheimer’s is extremelly difficult for family members and caregivers to deal with! It’s so sad to see someone you love in a different mindset than what your’e used to. The nursing home where I work used to have an Alzheimer’s Unit, but they opened it & now eveybody is mixed in together. There are some promising new medications for the disease but I guess each person responds to meds differently. I’ve seen some people progress but I’ve also seen where it doesn’t help the person at all, like this dd patient where I used to work at is now on hospice and is going downhill pretty fast.
Comment by Susan — February 10, 2008 @ 6:54 am
Nicole: Falsification of records by a cw in FL is a FELONY.
Laws do change. You did not include your email, nor state, but it seems as if your facts would warrant some accommodation on the money you were charged by DHS.
Sometimes you might note that the child himself might be eligible for an attorney ( since HE WAS DEPRIVED OF HIS FAMILY).
Again you need your state posted. DHS= PA, MI, Maine.
All those states have advocates or groups there, who you could call.
It is worth it for you to do further research.
You do have legitimate legal questions here.
Join the message boards, and also post your email ( use a throwaway addy) if you don’t want to be know. Also an atty would need your state of residence.
Comment by Fern — February 10, 2008 @ 8:40 am
I live in SouthBend INdiana and my children where taken in Casopolis Michigan where 80% of the children taken are not returned. The judge that handles most of the case is Susan Dobrich. Her husband is the chief police in the next city same county and believe me the nepotism does not end even close to there. She brags and calls her self the adoption judge. The law is broken repeately by this nepotismic structure. The law that states a child will be returned to a parent if the parent cooperates is not honored. Eviendence is not allowed to be presented in this court. I expect for the this judge to do her most to have my rights terminated especially since the people who have my son since he was stolen out of my arms at 5 weeks are in this nepotismic family and the bought and paid for guardian lien voiced in the first court hearing how these strangers wished to keep my baby. Any how, I could talk for atleast a year and 5 months but I dont think it will do much good, so lets protest. Lets inform the public of the truth. I am not Black but I dont need to be to qoute a Black Man who fought for civil rights. Martin Luther King Jr. said Do not accept any law that is unjust. This is called Civil disobedience. We are to act as if the Universe is on the side of Justice. Personally I was a victim of Domestic Violence and when I would call on the authorities of my community to remove our abuser , it was documented as domestic violence and my children along with my newborn baby was stolen from me , if it where not from the Stronge God Given instinct to protect and be with my children I would have lost my mind to the fact that a man I married whom I never thought would get on drugs and beat me and then in a cry for help my children are removed to a corupt evil system who does not want me or my kids to heal. They just want that fedreal money to justify their exstience. Yea that was shocking to learn. Okay, please any one who needs support or would like to arrange protest , please email me. The only think more shocking then what has happened could be that people would not think it worth the effort, but it will be. Please email me at laura_smith92007@yahoo.com
Comment by laura smith — February 10, 2008 @ 10:10 am
So this site is only a place to document CPS’s flaws- there’s no room for both sides of the truth, eh?
Dissappointing but not surprising.
The bottom line (and I’ll say it again) is that there wouldn’t BE a system if it wasn’t needed. All those CPS and CASA workers you just love to hate are working their tails off for little or no money - the mindset that they are OUT TO GET YOU is ridiculous.
I’m sure THIS posting will be deleted within 24 hours, just like my last one that tried to bring less anger and more reason to what all know is an imperfect system.
CPS is no more 100% right than are any of you. When we all realize that and start working together towards real answers, maybe then the right balance of protection/provision will be found for our kids.
Comment by Pam Sumrall — February 10, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
Bottom line is government is run amock and is stealing children and molesting them and therre parents because they don’t obey the constitution period. Even when they are busted perjuring themselves in court they are not imprisoned as they should be. They are infact illegle aliens that have ceased the reins of power. I’m sure glad there is a hell that they will find out about someday.
Comment by Brent Matthews — February 10, 2008 @ 1:56 pm
Pam,
Pam, Pam, Pam,
I dare you to click on this link and then come back and tell me what you think……
htttp://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1ADC7192427E7323206D61359495109E?contentId=5687255&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
If in fact what you are saying is true, then I would love to meet you!
As, I know for a fact, and have it on video, and on audio and have many credibal witnesses as to what you are standing up for is bullshit!
As my granddaughter is lying there crying from pain and suffering, the caseworker and the supervisor are smiling, and telling my daughter that what is wrong with my granddaughter isn’t really wrong with her!
Now, I challenge you to watch the real video (it’s over an hour long) of the pain and suffering that she was going through, and to look at the pix’s that I have and tell me different!
I TO THIS DAY, have not been able to sit and watch the video in one sitting!
My granddaughter suffers to this day…….. with Asthma and is on 3 meds a day…. She had nightmares for 2 nights…
She was only 2 1/2 months old when she was taken and 5 months old when I got her back…
DON’T YOU TELL ME, even for 1 second anything!
You (CPS) and your people say that they don’t know! You lie!!!! My granddaughter jumped at only 5 months old into my arms and buried her head into my chest and held on to me soooooooooooo tight, she would not even let me look at her face…….
I would love to meet you!
No, you don’t get paid much, but you have the other perks, bonus’s etc…
Are you still going to work there when the Federal Government is forced to take away their money and let it be in the hands of the State?
You watch the news clipping that I attached here and then we will talk!
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Pam,
Did you watch the news clip?
What it doesn’t tell in the report….
Did you notice how she was holding her ear? She had a severe ear infection…. Did you notice her crying? She was also suffering from Asthma, Conjuctivitis, Thrush of the mouth, Sores/blisters in her mouth ( a virus), Stomach problems, Colic, A misshapen head from being left on her back, a severe sunburn, bug bites, there was a big red mark on her cheek (which they didn’t show) and…….. her sox were so tight after my daughter took them off it took over 20 minutes for the circulation to come back….
So, you tell me….. YOU ARE PROTECTING CHILDREN!!!!!!!
Yes, theres more…. But I don’t think you have the guts to watch the news report much less to respond!
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
This is what YOU are protecting and standing up for?
This isn’t the 1st case! I can point out many, many more!
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
Laura,
You are right. California is the worst, but people are beginning to sue left and right, now Michigan is the very worst… People need to stand up there! They are the second wurst and then in a close race is New York..
Arizonia, most of those children die!!!!! The Federal Government just kkeeps giving them more and more money to figure it out…
For some reason they can’t! Or is it? That, they dont’ figure it out so they can just keep getting more money?
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
Cheryl,
If I were you, I would go and get the court transcripts…. The ones that tell what was discussed in court and copy those pages and attach them to the letter.
Well, you have a good attorney but if he for some reason doesn’t think of it….
I’ll explain then…
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
Pam,
Also, I doubt that your last post was deleted unless it was posted in January or prior…
Linda welcomes other peoples views. Especially, those of CPS, DFS etc… workers..
As we would love nothing more than to fix the problems in which pleague our society…
Comment by Diando — February 10, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
sPam, what about INNOCENT parents who did NOTHING wrong whose case was based on hearsay & false allegations??? What about the fact that the judge in my case is a known lezbian & is biased toward lezbians??? What about the fact that one of my caseworkers visited the people who had my kids on social visits??? Tell me, is that RIGHT??? What about the fact that evidence in mine & my husband’s favor was withheld in court??? Your system SUCKS. I sure wish i got kickbacks from destroying families. You all claim you make little $money$ but why is the average salary for CPS in my hick corrupt county around $3 to $4 grand a month??? and they all drive new vehicles to boot!
Comment by Susan — February 11, 2008 @ 7:56 am
Diando-
I do live in AZ. And it as a nightmare here. You’re right about the children that died. Three in 2007 alone. Those lawsuits have just begun.
The legislature started taking about reform on Jan. 17th 2008 based on 5 cases. The 3 deaths of babies under 3 yrs old and our case with another very similar. The subject is staying on the spring agenda at the senate, until reformed.
Our attorneys did not know about the papers as the case worker only faxed them to me. Being the trusting soul I am (not), I immediatley faxed them each a copy. I had doubts that CPS had given them anything.
I didn’t beleive that they had them as CPS said, or that they would approve of them.
Bottom line, until I personally verified they were acceptable, I was not filling out anything.
Still haven’t. They don’t approve of them.
Comment by Cheryl — February 11, 2008 @ 8:00 am
Dear Pam,
Hate to break it to you but if you actually got on to the message boards there are CPS workers, and CASA workers who have currently or previously posted there to help the parents who want it. This board is not about bashing the system it is about collecting information on how to either regain custody of children, or how to get rid of cps when they don’t belong there and insist they do. Legally! Usually by using thier own laws and rules to your favor.
Mainly the people who post here are falsely accused, some have problems need help and aren’t getting it. Some are abusive they usually leave really fast, unless they want help. I have not seen anybody here who condones child abuse.
I am also sure you post was NOT deleted it just may have been under a different month than where your looking. Every month a new guest book for that month goes up. You may have even posted it under something else like prayer requests. Look around it is here.
Yes sometimes it may sound like we are bashing a cps worker, some cps workers need bashed, just like every feild there are good ones there are bad ones. Some cps workers and some CASA workers do NOT bust thier tails to do thier jobs they do the min of the required work figuring what the hell not my kid or “I’m not paid enogh to care about that” while others do just as you said in that post. Here is one for you —6 children are tied up in my case — would you like to guess how many times the GAL met the children — that would be 0 as in none. She couldn’t pick the kids out of a line up. She has never talked to them, thier parents, or therapists. Only to the social worker that screwed things up in the first place and is on a mission now to cover her tail not work it off and kiss tail so we don’t sue. She is on damage control that is it at this point.
Please Pam if you do have anything useful post on the message boards all help is welcome here. Even from you. At least your admiting it isn’t a perfect system some times we get people who have not even graduated or gotten their sw degree call the posters here Meth heads or child beaters and tell us that they are going to graduate and go into CPS just to get all us child abusers …they have no clue and are in for a rude awakening!
Comment by Debbie — February 11, 2008 @ 8:38 am
First of all, reading all these stories and (even worse) experiencing CPS firsthand just angers me and makes me sick!
Our Story:
My FIRST report against my childrens’ father was in 2004 for “verbal threat of bodily harm to a child”. My son’s father had cursed at him and said, “boy, I’d beat your ass for crying like this if you were older!” (our son was only 4 and a half months old at the time!). Result: CPS called to speak with him, he said “F” Off and CPS CLOSED the case! NEVER seeing him in person or anything.
My SECOND report against my son’s father was in 2005 for “sexual indecency towards a child”. My son’s father would “play with himself” RIGHT behind my son’s back (trying to get “caught”), tell my son to grab his crotch (my son’s) and say, “pussy”, tell him to try to grab my chest and say “titties”. ALL of these things I had seen for myself. Result: CPS setup to go out to do a “house visit” with their Dad and then NEVER showed up. They called the next day and said there was some sort of emergency and that they’d have to reschedule. CPS never rescheduled and then CLOSED the case.
By now, my childrens’ grandmother had become vindictive from the reports (in which she did not belive were true) and decided to MAKE UP a report that my husband and I were making and using drugs! Result: CPS came to my house about 6 months after the report was made (sounds like they were REALLY concerned, huh?), did interviews with my husband and I. I offered to do a urine test and have my house searched because I wasn’t hiding anything but they refused! A few days later (and 10 days before Christmas) I recieved a call from CPS saying that we had to bring the kids down to their office immediately and that we might loose them! We went down there, had to sign the “family safety plan” (in which AFTER I signed, the CPS worker added services to it, right in front of us). We jumped through hoops with random drugs tests, drug classes, parenting classes, phsy. testing…etc. for A YEAR AND A HALF. We willing complied with everything they requested and NEVER had a positive drug test.
Present Day: Now, I am going through ANOTHER fake report my childrens’ grandmother has made and they have already been out 3 times (twice to close the case) and now say that if I just do a drug test then they’ll close it. LOL. I’m NOT worried about failing a test but am tired of jumping when they snap! I’d like them to put at least HALF the effort they have put with me, with my ex. I thought SEXUAL abuse was serious. My recent case worker tells me to just WAIT and let my children tell their own story in a few years (as in, just sit back and allow them to be abused until they are old enough to talk about it!).
CPS is a joke! I feel helpless and defenseless. I just want my children and I to be safe and happy but we keep getting harassed and threatened by CPS; “rent a cops”. Oh, and has anyone ever had or spoken to a caseworker or supervisor that spoke English as a first language and wasn’t from some other country? I keep encountering ones from Africa or something that that are hard to understand and obviously don’t understand me.
Comment by Katherine — February 11, 2008 @ 11:07 am
Attention Washington State families:
If you or someone you know has had their name published on “CAMIS”/CPS Registry, specifically for “Abandonment” and/or did not receive Notice/Due Process, please contact JoAnn at RTRIBE2000@aol.com for possible Class Action suit against DSHS. Our Olympia Attorney would like to hear from you.
Comment by Jo Ann Lang — February 11, 2008 @ 11:12 am
My grandkids NEVER met the GAL. In fact, CPS said one had never been assigned as of Dec 23, 07. How little they knew.
I know this woman had been assigned in March 07. She only got involved with 1 granddaughter; the foster care 15 yr old pregnant one by the foster father!!!!!!!
We had to terminate a life-threatening pregnancy and the GAL fought the teen in court for 2 days. Then after all that grief..she agreed it was best.
Comment by Cheryl — February 11, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Attention Washington State Families:
If you or someone you know has had their name published on “CAMIS”/CPS Registry, specifically for “Abandonment”, Please contact me at RTRIBE2000@aol.com for possible Class Action Lawsuit against DSHS. Our Olympia attorney would like to hear from you.
JoAnn
Comment by Jo Ann Lang — February 11, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Katherine,
If you know who the caller is and can prove it e-mail the Judge Judy show. We sued my son in laws sister, which is the one that called CPS..
We got $5000 and she hasn’t called since..
Comment by Diando — February 11, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
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Comment by yahoounivers — February 12, 2008 @ 9:50 am
Some states have more issues than others, but the problem with cps is nationwide.
I have dealt spoken to 3 social workers, and one supervisor, and none of them have been honest. One of them went to court and lied. Why do I hate cps, other than the fact that they have completely shredded my family?
While violating the Constitutional rights of parents, they can do other illegal acts such as lie in court, abuse children (I thought they were suppose to prevent that), falsify reports, and get away with it!! So….basically if you work for cps, guess what? Laws do not apply to you. You are exempt. Everyone else in this country has to obey the laws of the land or face the consequences.
My rights were violated, I’ve broken no laws, but my children were still ripped away from me.
To Pam- I’ve noticed that you have not reponded to what has been posted since your last posting. Why? Because you know we are right? I’m sure that there are good social workers out there with good intentions, and really just want to protect those who cannot protect themselves. CPS is something that is needed. But what you are missing is that part of what this site is about is to assist, and educate parents who have to deal with the social workers who are not being honest, and whose motive is to either get more money, or to cover up their asses because they messed up.
You don’t know what it is like to have your kids ripped away from a loving home, or to have your children abused (physically and mentally) by the system that was suppose to have been created to protect them.
DO NOT BASH AND RIDICULE SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I wouldn’t wish this kind of pain on my worst enemy. By nature, I’m a calm and enthusiastic person, so my only enemy has been my ex-husband and his awful family (just immediate, his extended family is actually very nice). Though I cannot stand that man, I would never wish my kind of suffering on anyone. So before you choose to ridicule the outcries of the parents on this site, for just a moment, ACTUALLY TRY TO PUT YOUR SELF IN THEIR PLACE. I pray that neither you or someone you know experiances what we have. Because the suffering endured by these various situations extend a lot further than the children and their parents. Other family members, and friends feel it to. My pain has been the pain of my entire family, and my husbands, and all of our friends. So when cps chooses to ruin one family, they are hurting a huge circle of people.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 12, 2008 @ 10:21 am
L.K.H. said it! This system totally needs to be reformed. All of the caseworkers & cps monsters I’ve encountered have been corrupt liars! Our GAL is another story…She had the nerve to hire a private investigator (at taxpayer’s expense) to SPY on my husband at the bowling alley (he bowls every Mon. night) Anyways she alledged that the snoop saw him drinking from a pitcher! Well, they NEVER tested the contents of the pitcher & the bowling alley sells O’Douls. Not to mention there are recovering alkies on his bowling team! This was just plain WRONG! Anyways, the cps nazis believed all that crap. Her name is Jolene DeVries located in Fremont, County, CO. Also, her ex husband died under VERY mysterous circumstances but of course they’re not going to investigate & the dude’s family is all in Germany…Very strange!
Comment by Susan — February 12, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
I don’t care for the GAL that we have been assigned either. I left my first husband because he was an alcoholic, and he was abusing me in front of my children. And the GAL would badger me as if I was just being a hateful, spiteful ex-wife. I’ve never set out to cause my ex-husband any kind of grief, regardless of what he has done to me. So the only one who was being spiteful was my ex. For years he would use the kids to hurt, and upset me. And when I reported him to CPS because my kids described something that may have been cocaine and marijuana, CPS DID NOTHING!!! In fact, everyone is painting out my ex to be daddy of the year!!! These people just don’t make any sense.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 12, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
Where did Pam go? Crawl back into your hole did you? Work together, are you for real? They, cps, doesn’t work with anyone except their own kind. We refuse to work with liers and thieves for we would be no different than them, they are just the same as those who steal children from malls, shopping centers, bus stops, etc.. Since our case with 9yrs. ago here in Lafayette, IN they have slowed down in removing some children. We figure judge L. Rush (a former casa worker) seen she couldn’t save the world, like she started out to do. Still, the courts here keep families scared. Maybe we should ask “Dr. Phil” what to do, he’s always threatening to call cps on folks. If we knew then what we know today, we would be citizens of another country that values family, this country sure doesn’t. Keep fighting parents, the lawsuits that involve large sums of money will get the attention. They just as everyone else will look closer at reform when the “pocket book” gets hit.
Comment by rlloyd4jc@hotmail.com — February 13, 2008 @ 7:45 am
I agree with rlloyd. If I knew then (when I started having children) what I know now, I really would have gone to a different country. I do not believe in abusing children, but I do believe that sometimes discipline is necessary. I don’t see anything wrong with a simple spank on the butt, as long as your not “beating” their behind. That is the problem with cps. They confuse a simple “spanking”, with “beating”. Parent of an older generation are confused as to why kids are the way they are, and it’s because of cps. I’ve heard so many times from other parents who have a difficult time getting their pre-teens under control because if they lay a hand on them, even if its because their child is throwing a fit so big that they can hurt themselves or those around them, they cry “I’m going to call cps” Then there is cps, who seem to be less educated than the kids because they believe it. They completely erase the possibility that the parent is dealing with a very rebellious child. I have a daughter who is doing this. Even though she has gotten in trouble in school for starting fights just because the other kids won’t do what she tells them to, cps is believingher bogus accusations.
Some parents, unfortunately, do get carried away, so that is why the agency needs to be there. But their unwillingness to look at the obvious is bullshit. Kids that show obvious signs of abuse get ignored, because they are too busy attacking parents who just want their kids to grow up with the right morales, and a respectful attitude towards others.
So I’ll say it again. If I knew then, what I know now, I so would have gone to another country. “Land of the Free?” I don’t think so.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 13, 2008 @ 8:46 am
That’s how all this started for us, too. A rebel preteen who started threatening everyone to do things her way or else… she’d call police OR she’d call CPS…OR you name it.
She finnaly got her chance and took it, after a simple discipline. From then on it was one lie after another simply because CPS was willing to believe her.
Comment by Cheryl — February 13, 2008 @ 9:08 am
to continue…15months later, CPS and theripists have decided all of it was lies and that SHE was using them system to her advantage.
Lord help me. I love her and want her with me,but I don’t have any trust in her not to do the same thing to me, her grandmother, at some point.
I’ll just have to take it 1 day at a time.
Comment by Cheryl — February 13, 2008 @ 9:12 am
I’m concerned about how far this will go because my daughter, who is only 7, can come up with some elaborate stuff. I don’t have a clue as to how she because this way except for the school. Because she is so small, and so cute, they would let her break rules that all other students are expected to follow. So there it is…..the public school system taught her that if she plays it right, she can get away with anything. Her siblings won’t play with her because of how mean and bossy she is with them. Last school year, she even got a bigger kid to go after her brother, and I went to the mother’s house to talk to her about what her child did. She was very sorry, and asked her child who was a few grades older than my daughter why in the world would she do something that a small, Kindergarden child tells her to do. Though I took my daughter to speak with that mother, and the other child admitted that my daughter told her to go beat up her brother, and she made an attempt to, my daughter STILL DENIES today that she did such a thing. I just don’t know what to do about her. She is a huge reason why cps is involved in our lives now; and none of her siblings will really talk to her because they do not like living with their father, and she is the reason why they are there. I try to teach my kids to love, respect, and take care of one another because that’s what family does. She is the only one that I can’t seem to get the message through to her. But now that cps is involved, she is trying to use them to get out of trouble, whenever she gets in trouble.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 13, 2008 @ 10:48 am
I also have a step-daughter that used cps against her father because he wouldn’t let her stay out yet. She has been in and out of trouble since she was 10. I lost count of how many times this girl has run away from home, gotten in trouble in school, or with the law. But cps still chose to believe her.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 13, 2008 @ 10:51 am
CPS creates more problems than it solves. They are not needed period. There are better solutions that do not use nazi tactics and make up fabrications and perjure themselves to courts. Why would an agency like that possibly be needed except to undermine civil rights and the constitution?
Comment by Brent Matthews — February 13, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
States with groups and networking v CPS. TX, CA, KS, CO, CT, AZ, AK, PA,MO, IN, FL (google DCF on Youtube) and there are others.
Since no one even responds to my postings, I think I cannot give out this information again.
Folks–you gotta do some work. Join the message boards here. Register required. There is help and support out there.
Comment by Fern — February 14, 2008 @ 7:22 am
Here is some code if you want to put some youtubes of corrupt CPS on your webpage.
It show some nice little youtubes to pick from that people have created to show how corrupt they are.
These people in CPS like it when you try and be reasonable because they don’t play by those rules. I am tried it and it only got me in trouble with them. They play dirty and we have to play dirty too. Think like a snake it helps.
Comment by Brent Matthews — February 14, 2008 @ 8:09 am
My code didn’t post because It must not be allowed to post html on here
Sorry for any confussion and just google if you want to find code to put youtubes on your webpage. It is one line of code which I thought I would pass on
Comment by Brent Matthews — February 14, 2008 @ 8:18 am
Almost a year ago I received a frantic call, not the first, from my daughter. She is a single mother, who was struggling and also is disabled. DSS was at her door and taking her 3 children. These three children have lived with us and we only now lived less than a mile away and they spent a lot of time at our home. We watched over mom as well. She, as a single mother had been getting some form of help for many years, section 8, etc. She loves those children and it’s been almost a year, she is allowed visits now once a month, supervised in a room with a table and chairs and a bunch of boxes, like a storage room, at DSS. We have not seen the children for about 6 months, they are not allowed to talk to us or anything. We cannot write to them. They are in a group home about 50 miles away. I have been to court, the courts, the police, everyone lets CPS/DSS do as they please. I have sat in court listening to them lie and they get away with it. No one can refute their lies, we are not allowed to speak. I had a home visit trying to get the children with us, it was fine, but then the person who did it, was apparently in CPS’s pocket and made up some stupid excuse why they couldn’t live with us. This has torn my family apart. An agency that is supposed to protect our children, and there is child abuse out there, is taking children away from loving families. The reason the children were taken, the first reason, my daughter’s house was filthy, and I did agree, she was overwhelmed and has spent time in hospital for depression. She has never neglected those children, they were well fed, loved and now dss/cps is making up different reasons, because my daughter has done all she was supposed to do and more. Her reward, they now want to put them up for adoption, never to see their family again. We are heartbroken, our grandchildren were a large part of our lives, and my daughter is heartbroken. Is this what our government lets go on, our courts, our police. The police were upset when they took the children, their answer, their is nothing they can do. CPS was in my daughter’s house when she wasn’t at home, she hadn’t locked her door apparently. CPS walked in uninvited and stated they had the right to do so. The judge, the courts, the police, everyone lets them do as they please. My daughter nor my husband and I cannot afford a high priced attorned. My daughter has a legal aid attorney who was gung ho in the beginning, I had references and even brough some folks to court to speak for us in favor, but they were never allowed to speak. The CPS worker told the judge that we have never helped my daughter, and in fact we worked with prior workers and had custody of the children when my daughter was in the hospital and when she came out until she could get on her feet again. The children were returned to her because we were told we had no right to keep them. My daughter wants her children back or at least wants the family to have them live with us so she can be a part of their lives. Someone, can someone do something please.
Comment by Arline Kunkel — February 15, 2008 @ 6:54 am
Cheryl,
Did you see this?
HUGE WIN: Federal Judge Ruled that Coerced Cooperation By DCF Workers Unconstitutional
BIG BIG WIN FOR PARENTS AND CHILDREN
There you have it, DCF and its employees can not threaten parents with court orders or the removal of children because parents assert their 4th and 14th Amendment Rights and refuse to cooperate. Parents do not have to cooperate with DCF what so ever and DCF employees have to go away when parents deny them access to their home and children. They must conclude their investigation without the cooperation of the parents and children.
DCF workers here in Connecticut are trained and instructed in this unconstitutional practice in order to conduct an unreasonable search and seizure of the home and child. They are to lie and threaten any way they can.
All parents who were threatened should file a federal lawsuit against DCF, their workers, their supervisors and the police.
Thomas Dutkiewicz
October 22, 2007
Federal Judge Rules Social Worker Fear Tactics Unconstitutional
A federal court in Arizona has ruled that an unsupported threat to place children in custody, made to coerce cooperation with a social services investigation, violates the constitutional guarantee of family privacy and integrity.
As detailed in the March/April 2007 issue of the Court Report, social workers and sheriff’s deputies had come to the home of Home School Legal Defense Association members John and Tiffany Loudermilk, demanding entry based on a six-week-old anonymous tip that the newly constructed home was unsafe for children. The Loudermilks declined consent, as was their right under the Fourth Amendment. After an escalating confrontation at the front door that lasted 40 minutes, the social workers, backed by no fewer than four deputies, threatened to take the Loudermilks’ children into custody and place them in foster care if the Loudermilks continued to deny them entry to their home. An assistant attorney general repeated this threat to HSLDA attorney Thomas Schmidt, who was assisting the Loudermilks during the confrontation.
Under this duress, Mr. and Mrs. Loudermilk allowed the social workers and sheriff’s deputies inside. Within five minutes, the social workers determined that the anonymous tip was false and left.
HSLDA filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the Loudermilk family, alleging that the search violated the Fourth Amendment and that the unjustified threat to remove the children was a separate constitutional violation of the family’s Fourteenth Amendment right to privacy and family integrity. The social workers and assistant attorney general moved to dismiss the claims, arguing that neither the search nor the threat to remove the children violated the Loudermilks’ constitutional rights.
On September 27, 2007, the judge ruled in the Loudermilks favor, stating: “Defendants persisted in their threats to remove the children if Plaintiff Parents did not consent to the search, stating that [they] could arrest or handcuff the Parents in front of the children. Based on the allegations set forth in the Amended Complaint, viewed in Plaintiff’s favor, no reasonable official would have believed that his or her conduct was authorized by state or constitutional law.†With regard to the assistant attorney general, the court ruled that “Plaintiffs have sufficiently alleged that [the attorney] . . . by ‘threat’ exerted ‘coercive pressure’ on them to allow the search of their home so that their children would not be removed.â€
The judge’s ruling allows the case to proceed to trial. “The ruling in this case makes it clear that threatening to remove children to gain a parent’s cooperation is unconstitutional,†said James R. Mason, Senior Counsel for HSLDA. “We hope that this ruling will change this common tactic used by investigative caseworkers all over the country.â€
Other Resources
Judge’s Ruling in the Loudermilk Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss (requires Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Thomas M. Dutkiewicz, President
Special Family Advocate on Constitutional Protection
Connecticut DCF Watch
P.O. Box 9775
Forestville, CT 06011-9775
860-833-4127
Admin@connecticutdcfwatch.com
http://www.connecticutDCFwatch.com
P.S. Check out our web site for the FREE handbook on parental rights. There is also a manual on “reasonable efforts” with sections for Attorneys, Judges and Agencies.
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Comment by Diando — February 15, 2008 @ 10:13 am
Diando-
Yes I did. This happened in AZ. My home city, Phoenix. Which is WHY we are filing suit in this very same federal court which happens to be in our jurisdiction.
Lucky, wouldn’t you say? We have requested this Judge to hear the case, since it is based entirely on the same evidence we are presenting initially.
This ruling lifted CPS immunity and it set up a prescedent for us to use.
Loved it!
Comment by Cheryl — February 15, 2008 @ 11:16 am
i wish that law applied here in F&ckmont county where they make up the rules as they go! Arline, I’m so sorry for your situation. My prayers are with your family. Did you all watch Dr. Phil today? It was about a couple with 7 children whose house was about to be foreclosed & the husband had no job (he is an unsuccessful entrepreneur). Anyways, the grandparents were concerned for the kids & the house had no gas or running water. I didn’t hear any mention of cps being called, but as usual, Dr. Phil was patronizing and called in a pastor (who was HOT, btw
) to rebuke the dad’s religious beliefs. I sure hope the best for that family!
Comment by Susan — February 15, 2008 @ 6:38 pm
I am really enraged with the way CPS handled my case…first off, I have a friend whom I have been best friends with since we were in 3rd grade. I am now 20 years old. She is a drug addict, an alcoholic and very violent. She had her baby in November 2006 and I was there to help her while she partied, bashed in walls, did horrible things that I can not even describe to write on here and neglected her son. She was homeless and in a drunk rage when she decided to give my family temporary custody and Power of Attorney of her son. It was a deal with CPS, Bethany Christian Services, and us. Nothing was signed by a judge. She was working with Bethany Christian Services here in Grand Rapids, MI for 3 months. She did little to nothing in the program amidst all of our efforts to reach out to her. She decided that she didn’t want to do it anymore, and her and her baby’s dad got an attorney and somehow they were able to come to our house yesterday with the police and take the almost 15 month old baby away. First off, she has an open case of neglect. Secondly, the father doesn’t have custody. BUT the police said we HAD to give him over to them because we had nothing proving that we had temporary custody. They were going to have a hearing but it was adjourned because the mother did not have an expert witness on her side. She is native Alaskan and her child is 1/4. Origionally, CPS said we had the right not to open the door for them and the police said they could do nothing without the mother and father showing custody papers. It worked for 1 day, until they came the next day and they made it mandatory that we give him over. CPS said they were working feverishly on an emergency pick up order so he could come back into our home ASAP because the father could come pick him up, but the mother was not supposed to be with him. He lied to the attorney and CPS saying that he had nothing to do with the mother and he was going to protect the baby. This was all lies; they are indeed together and happy. Now we are left very upset, missing the baby and made to look like the fools. This child doesn’t belong with his parents. I wrote a 7 PAGE LETTER stating all the things that I have ever seen with his mother and father as a first-hand witness. Someone HELP?!
Comment by Cassie — February 16, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
My Wife and I are going through the same “BULL” from Missouri DFS Children’s Division. Lies, Fabrication of evidence Ect. We proved them liars in their court, but they still ruled against us to protect the people who accused us of these terrible crimes. I thought we were an isolated case of DFS abuse, but after my research the last two days rthis has been going on for decades. I thought we had something going for us when my Inlaws contacted our Govonor’s office and a state senator, but after reading and reaserching they already know about this practice. Our Kids have been in state care for 3 months now and our battle has just begun. My questions are this Is there Advocacy groups here in Missouri who can help us and since this kind of treatment of innocent families has gone on so long why can’t anything be done about it? I wish I could help somehow to help stop this practice. Any help will be most apreiciated.
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 16, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Hello everyone
These situations are so, so very sad. I really can’t believe that the DCF gets away with this type of stuff. i’m going though it and i still can’t believe it. Maybe if dcf workers got jail time for lieing under oath and lost their jobs for not doing them right then maybe we would have alot less of these situations.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 17, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
If the social workers went to jail for any of the illegal acts that they have conducted, lying in court, violating constitutional rights, etc., the problem would not have gotten this bad. And we would actually have some honest social workers out there!!
Comment by L.K.H. — February 17, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
If the social workers went to jail for any of the illegal acts that they have conducted, lying in court, violating constitutional rights, etc., the problem would not have gotten this bad. And we would actually have some honest social workers out there, and less families who have been turned into victems!!!
Comment by L.K.H. — February 17, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
Mr. & Mrs. Welker - I have a friend who lost her kids in the Misery (MO) cps system. She never got them back, even though she got a house, job, etc. She surrendered her kids under the false pretences that they would be in a safe place until she got on her feet. WRONG! It’s a child predatory system that destroys families forever. Those kids are all grown now and have a multitude of problems such as drug use, abusive relationships, mentally challenged children just to name a few. In other words, true victims of foster incarceration that is supposed to be so wonderful.
Comment by Susan — February 17, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
Is anyone who works for cps, or the GAL ever prosecuted for destroying a family?
Comment by L.K.H. — February 17, 2008 @ 7:56 pm
They LIE!!! this is so true. Recently my 19yr neice stayed the night with somone she had only known a short month when she awoke her 7mo baby was beat up. The day before the incident my sister her grandmother and the mother took her to the emergency room because she was sick she was digonosed with the flu. That night she was beat up. My sister went to get her and took her to the hospital. My neice has taken full responsibility for her neglgence however, they took the kids from my home I am a previous foster mother and my CBI came back clean as well as my sisters. The intake worker spent 5 days with the family and determined that the children were very attached to the family and their mother she thought it best to leave them with me. Than she turned it over to another worker Kelly Garcia, and she tore this family apart. She lied from the get go and so did the homestudy worker Jeff. He misconstrued every word we said therefore, Kelly thought we were lying than he called me to strighten things out and we I thought clairified everything. Than the day we went to court for placement Kelly said if I got up and defended myself that she would pull the kids sure enough she did just that. My sister and her daughter had an appointment right after court and she asked them if they had ever been involved with ss and she replied no, however, she thought they ment in a digroatory way her and her children were involved 15yrs prior because the dad had molested the two girls. My sister called me from the cell phone and was crying because Kelly said she was going to pull the kids because she said my sister lied to her I said the can’t do that our CBI’s came back clean she called a judge and said that she heard me over the phone say I was going to run with the kids. We called an emergency hearing with the judge and somehow they twisted my neices head around saying we will never get the kids back. The GAL was on our side the intake worker was on our side and we had physical proof that we did not lie and they did. Is there no one out there that is willing to fight for these parents and children for free why is there no one who is willing to fight these people why have we allowed our goverment to control and lie. They were created to protect our children not to destroy families. Denver county has had several children that have died in their custody and now they are on overkill.
Comment by Susan — February 17, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
Why isn’t something being done to make these people held responcible for thier actions?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 18, 2008 @ 8:22 am
Government knew what they were doing. They made government office immune from prosecution and suit.
They have -0- accountability to us. Some states are trying to change things, but only AFTER a tragedy.
As long as the system offers job security for some many workers, invesigators, lawyers, GAL’s, Services and local police, it will never change.
It cannot be restructured! It needs to be abolished. Then start from scratch!
Government says it has to be reformed to protect kids WHILE it is under reform and avoid closure so parents cannot abuse of their children during a shut down.
Unfortunatley, kids will die at the hands of parents, relatives, strangers and foster parents during the reform period just as much as if they shut it down and took time to start over.
Either way, it’s a crap shoot!
Comment by Cheryl — February 18, 2008 @ 9:02 am
cheryl
It’s good to hear that cheryl. may god continue to be with you in court. .I’m happy for you
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 18, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Diando
That is great info that i read, which you submitted about the judge ruling in loudermilk. This stands also for Ct though? Thanks
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 18, 2008 @ 1:29 pm
I was thinking about how hard it is for me to be a mom and for my children to need me and to cry for me and i’m unable to do anything to remove them from this situation immediately. moms are suppose to do everything. i did everything that i could to be a perfect mom. my every move in life is for the happiness of my children. i thought that if i did’nt drink, smoke, party, eat healthy. fix healthy snacks, help with homework go to parent teacher meetings and bake cookies go to every game etc that my good works would show as a parent and it did’nt . not when dcf came in with their lies. being a perfect mom and a good christian did’nt stop this from happening however . god has given me peace. i just cry so hard and now i don’t cry out i just let the tears fall. i mean this is rediculious. i have to laugh to keep from cring. incredible
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 18, 2008 @ 1:56 pm
this page is so very much needed. No one understands what it’s like to live in this situation unless they are experiencing it themselves or have. I thank god for this site. People say be strong, it will be okay but unless you have walked in this nightmare, you can’t imagine. Thanks everyone for your support and testimonies on what good things are happening. Even the bad situations are a blessing. We will get through this. We will. The sun will shine again in our situations and on our families. Prayerfully sooner than later. Every minute with these open cases is a dangerous one. may god keep our children safe while they are away from us..
Thanks all of you
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 18, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Mattia:
DCF is in 3 states.
CT
FL
NJ
There are Websites which help folks in 2 out of the 3 states.
NJ does not have a good Website.
If you live in FL–go to Youtube.com and input DCF in search box. Lots of videos. Lots of organizations. Sounds like you need to talk…..
Please join the message boards here. I am certain there are FL, CT and NJ residents who can further work with you.
Blessings. F.
Comment by Fern — February 18, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
Diando-
The prescadent will stand in AZ. It can be used anywhere in the USA, but paticular attention to new AZ cases will be paid to the Loudermilk case where the same standards apply, simply because it is the same court where the family won. I know it is really quite predjuice. Wonderful system huh?
And, luckily for me, I’m in the same Federal Court district in AZ. as the Loudermilk case. It could not have come at a better time. I have to wonder if this “political” case had something to do with the judge closing our case and all the damage control the State Atty eneral is doing. Right now, we ARE getting anything we ask for.
Of course, we are requesting the same Judge at Fed. Court since he found exactly as we need. He is most likely to remember that the Loudermilks case is strongly similar to ours and find the same way.
That will clear the way for us to go to trial against the states CPS and DES offices and each case worker, their supervisors and the foster family that withheld visitation to set up adoption for themselves instead of trying to reunite the family.
Comment by Cheryl — February 19, 2008 @ 8:13 am
I brought my children home, finally, because, I had enough of the crap. I was falsely accused, with DHS’s influence, and the Sherriffs Dept., because in these situations, of course, they are a team. They charged me and I stood my ground. However, during that time, my girls were seperated. I was allowed supervised contact only, etc. My oldest daughter changed residences eleven times, to include 2 youth shelters and a psych hospital. She was a constant runaway from every place that she was placed. She was raped after she was in the second youth shelter and taken to the next county and dropped off at a mall. During all this, which went on for months, I kept DHS informed and constantly asked for help for my daughter. They tell me, supervisor included, cause he was the last person that I talked to, that I haven’t been complying with what they recommended. I’ve had enough at that time. My charges were dropped, the day before my trial by jury, by the DA. I called the DHS supervisor, and he tells me, even though the DA dropped charges, they are gonna stand with their recommendations, regardless of what my girls have had to endure during this time. THAT was the last time I have spoken to DHS. I asked him if there was another channel for me to go to in order to get my girls back home. He told that there was none that he knew of. Stalemate? NO!!! I brought my girls back home and haven’t heard from them since. I do expect to here from them again, however. But I will be ready. I’ve done the research of state statutes and have learned immensely. I’ve done the research on Oklahoms DHS, and have learned immensely. DHS has protocols and guidelines, which is available online, that they are required to go by. However, they have a scapegoat clause that says that the welfare of the child is of the most importance, which is ironic. I’ve crossreferenced with the state statutes. Even state police, or any official within the state government, EXCEPT for, a DHS investigator, can get by with taking your children away from you, because of allegation, or a belief or statement by DHS. Also, it is written in black and white, that they do not have to indulge in where that allegation came from, and as crossreferenced, the state law backs them. I learned how to cope with my situation by learning the law. This got me back on my feet and angered me more. They forgot about me because I beat them, and I was overwhelmed at that. I wanted to forget all that and go on with life. But, there are new people introduced, every day, to this corrupt system. I hear about them and I meet them. I cannot standby as one who escaped their grasp and say nothing while they continue to feed on others. It helps to vent, however venting only consoles. Reach out to others in your area, or online who are desperate and have lost hope. Research the law in your state. Research the protocol and guidelines that your state requires of your CPS/DHS, or whatever it may be called in your state. Use that knowledge and make them accountable to it. Most of all, reach out, because, if you remember, like I did, I thought that all was lost. Nothing is lost, unless you stop fighting. Your children are the reason we all fight, because, they are worth it!
Comment by Aaron — February 19, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
I’m looking for stories… Please e-mail me your story. I want included in them how many jobs you lost, loss of wages, and all the trauma you and your children/grandchildren went through…
I know this is going to be real hard but try and keep it kinda breif…
I don’t know when, where or how yet, but, I am going to get them noticed / heard!
You can e-mail them to me at debbieandolino@msn.com
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 8:26 am
Make sure to include your state.
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 8:29 am
Susan,
I think your on to something as far as Louisanan goes. I have never heard of one story from there.
MMMM, why is that?
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 8:42 am
Aaron:
Thank you for your input and wise counsel. The reaching out is the most significant part.
Folks who reach OUT most likely are completely innocent.
The guilty hide.
I believe there was a gentleman in MO or KS who endured a similar fate with DHS.
Group in Kansas is:
Citizensforchange. org
Do not know about OK.
Can the US afford this needless and destructive state of affairs?
Comment by Fern — February 20, 2008 @ 9:06 am
Diando:
Could not access the Judge Judy show.
Can you provide an alternate URL or link?
Does Judge Judy have a transcript service?
Best. F
Comment by Fern — February 20, 2008 @ 9:12 am
Diando-
I think you have my story already. Though I have lost numerous days vacation, comptime and sick time with all this, I am lucky to have several weeks vacation each year since I have been on my job for 15 yrs and work for a very prestigious firm.
But the aggrevation..was enourmous! I would cry for days at a time and still try to maintain dignity at work. The kids had the worst of it. They tell me of the worst things that happen at the foster homes daily. I can’t believe it, but the one girl has not had a home-cooked meal since she was transfered to her current ffoster home. They don’t work and they don’t cook. The order fast food every day for dinner. Sandwiches for lunch and if they want breakfast, they have to fix a bowl of cereal or toast on their own. Excuse me, but who’s the adult here?
I couldn’t help but notice this, too. Of the 3 foster homes these kids have been moved to, all 3 had foster parents are using the system for income as they can not work for health reasons. They were stay at home people who could not get a regular job; one due to breathing problems, one due to methadone treatments for bi-polar disorder and a car accident and the other is a medically discharged former fireman who has lost most eyesight among other permanent injuries.
So I ask…are these people really foster parents for love of helping the kids or is just a means of income since there is no other means available for them. Each did not qualify for disability, either.
The girls did not want to go back Monday. We had them for 3 glorious days! I am exhausted because I made the most of the time we had. And I’d do it all over again.
I am told I should have had them for good 2 weeks ago but the case worker has not taken my final affidavit into court for the judge to sign. When I called him yesterday, he still had not picked it up off his supervisors desk in the other room!!!!
Pathetic! The girls are getting disgusted and are sooooo ready to come home.
Comment by Cheryl — February 20, 2008 @ 11:05 am
I would like to say to Linda. Thank you for your website because, it helped my family and myself. In 2006, I had false allegations placed on me and my family. However, with little help from the court appointed attorney. I decided to work my own case and won. The case was dismissed in 2007 of Dec. Mind you, I am a single mother with 4 children with a income less than $9,000 and I won my case. Once, again thank you and God Bless
Comment by retta — February 20, 2008 @ 11:21 am
Fern-
I goggled Judge Judy and it came right up as JudgeJudy.com.
It could be the “cached” that is a problem for your system.
If you do it from AOL it should appear fine.
The “submit” is right on the top right corner for new cases.
Good luck.
Comment by Cheryl — February 20, 2008 @ 11:52 am
Cheryl,
Did you e-mail me your story? I have soo many that it is at times hard to keep up with. I know them all by name and what happened to them but I put them in a file and store them there.
I want them e-mailed so I can contact them if needed..
I had an attorney call me yesterday… He wants to talk… He is out of town until tomorrow (Thursday).
Wish me luck….
As far as the stories I’m hoping with Gods will to retire in the near future and work full time on getting the Safe Families Act abologished.
If we can get that done then the money will be taken out of the system and it will collapse..
Then we can start over. I know, it’s just a dream right now but you have to start somewhere.
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Cheryl
I would like your feedback on something. Once, I had my case dismissed. I would like to know if DCFS continue trying to come up with something against me. They lost tremendous in court against me. I will give you some examples: 1. Out of the blue a lawyer decided to take my son on as far as getting him into a private school. However, I notices when she was at my home. I notices she had her purse open on the floor. The next visit she looked into my kitchen. The third visit she wanted to come in after bringing my son home from a college event at his school he attend. When my cousin came to visit me. The lawyer changed meeting date to Sunday. My son and I are kind of getting uncomfortable with her. Even though, she works for a law office. The fifth visit, my son had to go to the doctor after his friend threw a ball and fraction his thumb. My son had already told her what happen when she dropped him off. She told me “O, you did not tell me about his hand. What happen?” However, I decided to change days and she told me that she had to talk to me about it. Next esposide, A officer meet my son at the college club at the school he attends. Now, he trying to get my son in private schools. The officer wants to take me and my son to view the campus of these private schools. Next esposide, My younger son wanted to go to a neighborhood small park. I agreed to take him after school. However, the park is so small that you can watch your child sitting in the car. As I was watching my son swing and having fun. He run up to the car with excitement. He said, “mom did you see that boy do that trick from the swing. I said yeah. However, as my son is talking to me. A woman comes out from nowhere and she said, I thought he was here by himself. I was going to take him home with me.” I knew the woman saw my car because, the park is so so small if you would get out. All you have to do is take 4 to 5 steps and you would be where my son was swinging. Therefore, I had my other kids in the car and one was sick. I told my son “I believe that’s a social worker and let me go and swing next to him.” I said, “watch this a police car is going to come by.” To my behold, a DCFS van slowly drove by and then 5 minutes later a police car slowly drove by. However, the lady disappeared. Last esposide, My younger son had appointment to get his retainer. However, when my son returned to school the same day. The teacher begin to ask questions about the way he talk and why he had to have the retainer. After I informed her a week before and a day before about the appointment. What is that about? and Why are Lawyers and Officers targeting my son by helping him to go to a private school? Why can my son play at the park without interfering with devils as I call them? Last but less, My daughter is a special need child and the hospital therapist wants to recommend clinics therapy for her disabilities. The funny thing about it. DPSS and Family Institute Center that has the DCFS vans are down the street from the development center that my daughter suppose to attend. I would love to hear your feedback. Thank You
Comment by retta — February 20, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
To: Women and Men of God
We just all have to pray for CRYSTAL because, Satan always have his workers trying to destroy our path to happiness. However, CRYSTAL is like a weed in the earth sooner or later it will get pricked from the earth. Never give CRYSTAL the better you so that Satan can rejoice. I would say to you CRYSTAL-EVIL OF DARKNESS. “Devil get beneath the women and men of God.” We don’t want you here so be gone.”
God Bless to all
Comment by retta — February 20, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
Retta-
It is a set-up, really.
One of our 4 case workers said it best…”the agency has been watching your daughter and family for over 4 years and we just couldn’t get anything on them until now”.
When the girls would call me and say people were watching them, I didn’t believe them. I thought they has over-active imaginations as kids tend to do. But I have to wonder now if I was wrong and they really were being watched and SAW these watchers.
It;s all about making sure that they can keep an eye on the kids. But not for their saftey. For future involvment with you. When they have to open a new case or lose the cash cow, you will be the target they choose to hit; and so will any other families they are watching if they have enough partial info to use.
Then they will use whatever they can to remove the kids and keep the cash flowing in. And it may be more than just your family. Multiple targets will be hit. Whatever it takes to gt payroll back on track.
You are already being targeted. They just don’t have enough to hold up in court. Their hope is your kids will give them something IF they continue to keep them under a watchful eye. Anything at all.
It truely is the kids they count on to spill any beans that can be twisted.
You know the saying “out of the mouthes of babes”. Kids speak simply and rarely give specifics, therefore it is easy to twist the words or cause an assumption by a teacher, friend or the like. Assumptions cover their butt until a judge says otherwise.
Comment by Cheryl — February 20, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Retta,
You need to check and see how your case was closed. Typically from what I just recently learned they close it with predijuce, which means they can reopen it at anytime and for any reason..
I was told to get the last court transcripts and check the docket.
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
Cheryl & Diando:
Someone had posted a link to the story aired on the Judge Judy show.
Perhaps my writing was a bit vague. Actually, KY has some very interesting video re: DHS hearings with families posted on Youtube.
A URL.
It seemed to refer to Diando’s testimony or a video link from Youtube.
Diando, perhaps you could register with
http://www.Youtube.com
If permitted. Maybe the Judge Judy show holds the intellectual property rights or copyright, but I have seen some other clips to Judge Judy on Youtube in the past.
I think everyone would be interested to see the actual ( staged ) court testimony and a video clip is worth way over my 1K of words.
Kentucky’s DHS has some blockbuster clips about their conduct, filmed by WAVY investigative reporters.
Indiana is working on video exposes also.
DCF in FL has many first person accounts of citizen outrage v DCF.
Thanks. Sorry I may have seemed unclear.
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — February 20, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
Why can’t we petition our court system to make all social workers interviews be video taped that would stop all the twisting and fabrications. Why can’t we all get together and file a class action law suit in our federal courts?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 20, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Fern,
Our show has not aired yet.. I just got the post card from them. I will tape it and put it on youtube..
Is there another one similar to ours?
The link to the Judge Judy website is http://www.judgejudy.com/#.
After we went to the local courthouse and filed the small claims case we received phone calls from Judge Mathis as well.
Just remember, they tell you that you have to give them a show at some point in order to get it aired.
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
Robert,
There is too much money to be made here. Good attorneys are now going bad… It’s all about the money…. and there is alot of it to be made….
I’m trying to get the American Civil Liberties Union to get involved since they work out of all 50 States…
It’s going to take a BIG Cowboy to take the cash cow down…
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
Cheryl,
I’m so sorry you havn’t gotten your grandkids back home yet. I know how frusterating it is.
After I was awarded my granddaughter they still didn’t let me have her until the next day.. It was the longest 24 hours I ever had.
Comment by Diando — February 20, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Crystal, Crystal, Crystal. You claim to be a college student, yet your pathetic little posting had numerous misspelled words and grammatical errors. Do you actually attend an accredited college or university?
“Alright” is not a word. It should be “all right.”
It’s “accidentally” not “accidently.”
“…if you can even label yourself as people…” is incorrect. It should read, “…if you can even label yourselves as people…”
and the entire sentence is far too long. It appears to be two sentence fragments joined together.
Never, ever begin a sentence with “And.”
Comment by Judy — February 20, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Diando, I guess they are the ‘wrong’ color in Louisiana. We also don’t hear much from the deep South (MS & AL) either. White babies are more profitable to CPS. They stole mine without a case…just the speculation that there ‘might be abuse’. Injustice for all in Fremont County, CO!
Comment by Susan — February 21, 2008 @ 2:31 am
Your right Susan!
In Lousiana most of the people live off of Government assistance. I hear it is terrible… They just sit around on their porch all day..
No, there would be no money made there…
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 7:04 am
Diando:
I am certain you were terriffic!
Yes, I have seen JJ cover CPS cases b4.
My atty friend tells me that they do check small court filings for interesting shows.
SO MY TAKE HOME MESSAGE IS:
iNNOCENT PARENTS—FILE IN SMALL CLAIMS V MALICIOUS ACCUSERS.
Montel was also sympathetic to families v CPS.
He’s retiring, though, I gather.
There is an African-American gentlemen in MO or KS who tells an interesting story about CPS malpractice in reference to his teen daughter.
He himself is employed by LE.
And to think that JJ was Family Court Judge in Brooklyn for years.
You are the poster child and and pioneer in showing ACS’ incompetence.
My law prof said the only ethnic group which she did not prosecute through ACS were Indians from India.
Think, readers, about the melting pot NYC is!
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — February 21, 2008 @ 7:27 am
someone please explain if anyone knows thje answer please. My son was
raped by foster father ,there was only the reason of IV-E benefits they
wanted never a founded rewport at anytime but took him anyway based on
their concerns>CRAZY hes back with me i reported this to the police and
c and y The state of pa indicated two reports by my son. Well this is a
year ago now . The perpertrator has yet to be charged with anything at
all still has coustdy of his adopted 7 year old son. and my son has all
kinds of treatment going on now just to pull him and all of us
thru.What in hell is going on here? I watch msnbc and those guys didnt
even touch a child and were banged for good reasons. Am I missing
something here .All the cop tells me is hes still looking into it and
that these cases are hard to prove. Well the c and Y part indicated
their part Im sure to cover their ends. For what reason did they take
this child. There was no abuse or neglect> They put him in a rapists
arms. They try and make me feel better by telling me this creep cant
foster anymore I AM SO DAM HAPPY NOW.Gee theat is awful quick of them
ya think. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Kathy
Comment by kathy brennan — February 21, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Fern,
Where can I find that story about CPS malpractice?
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 7:35 am
Kathy-
You personally can go to the local police dept. and “swear out a criminal complaint” against the perp. And then follow it up with a written complaint to your county District Attorney demanding he be charged for the crime.
You do not have to go thru your case worker, CPS, DHS or anyone else.
If your son is back with you, then your case is probably closed. No matter, CPS will be watching over you in the future so pushing for a criminal charge won’t make any difference in how they treat you.
Take the boy to a doctor for a full exam. They can tell if a boy has been sexually active. The colon and rectum hide nothing. Damage to the interior wall stays present for quite a while.
Also, post everywhere you know of to find a CPS attorney and ask they file a Federal Court complaint to sue.
This constitutes “gross Negl.” and a Federal judge will clear your way to trial.
Good luck!
Comment by Cheryl — February 21, 2008 @ 8:09 am
Diando We still have a right to peacefully protest. What if we organize and demonstrate at the local DFS offices write a petition and gather signatures of others who come and go from these offices who support reform. Then submit these signatures to ACLU, local and federal legestative officals along with the media?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 21, 2008 @ 8:34 am
Everyone please go to Care 2 and sign this petition… Type in REQUESTING FOR ALL&n#signatures
Check out Care2 : The Petition Site : REQUESTING FOR ALL&n#signaturesâ€
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 9:09 am
Robert,
That is a great idea… We could also get signatures from the Courthouse.
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 9:12 am
I think Robert may be on to something. If we can get petitions signed from everybodys city / county and take them to the DC Rally this year..
Also, submit them to the ACLU and maybe senators and Ron Paul…
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Sorry everyone the petition that I posted doesnt come up…
Comment by Diando — February 21, 2008 @ 9:49 am
kathy
sorry to hear that has happened to your son. i had the same thing happen to my son, dcf hid the fact and they still try to sweep it under the rug. the whole thing is sick, i swear this system is a mess
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 21, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
Kathy,
I’m sorry for your tragedy and that of your sons. I have had a similiar experience with my daughter who was illegally taken and held for 18 months with no court order. Although they tried to obtain one they were unsuccessful. During the time she was held she was allowed no contact with me or her siblings or anyone else. She had medical proceedures done to her. These people are lawless. They then gave her back to me thoroughly traumatized and started attacking our family on a number of fronts to keep us off balance so that we could not fight back. This a common occurance with this rogue agency and they like to call the parents the perpertrators when it is actually them who is. After they abuse you or your kids you then become a target for the rest of your life as happened to me. There is a cop who is trying to expose these criminals in Cornwall Ontario and he has been thrown into jail for his efforts and now his wife and three teenage daughters are without a dad. He could use our support if at all possible. I know its hard to support anyone in our afflictions but I believe there are principals of God that will be released that could bring this system to Justice if we do. The story of this cops fight and this coverup can be found at http://www.theinquiry.ca/
Comment by Kathy — February 22, 2008 @ 8:45 am
The above post was mine. Sorry for the mistake
Comment by Brent — February 22, 2008 @ 8:46 am
I have heard about this rally in D.C. I’m interested in it who is sponseringit and what is the hopeful outcome?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 22, 2008 @ 8:59 am
Diando what is this petition your circulating and what is this petition site’s address?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 22, 2008 @ 9:03 am
The petition is on Care 2. It is
REQUESTING FOR ALL UNITED STATES CASES TO BE REVISITED” petition!
This is the link to the Rally - http://www.dcrally2007.com/
Comment by Diando — February 22, 2008 @ 10:18 am
Kathy,
I’m sorry to hear about your daughter. When my granddaughter was taken at only 2 1/2 months old they tried to force my daughter to sign papers for them to do a cat scan on her head.
If they had done that she would have been brain damaged…
Thank God my daughter was smart enough to know to call and ask a dr and then strong enough to tell them no.
They were very persistant though.
By law here in Texas they need the parents signature to do any major medical treatments..
Comment by Diando — February 22, 2008 @ 10:22 am
Ok, here goes.
Our Judge Judy case is airing on Monday!
Please take into consideration that in order to get your story aired you have to give them some type of show…
I have done 5 interviews… The 1st never aired because I refused to do what they wanted.
2nd and 3rd are for documentaries…
4th Judge Judy… Give them a show or it won’t air.
5th Channel 26..
Comment by Diando — February 22, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
BRENT
WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THIS OFFICER? DOES HE NEED FINANCES FOR AND ATTORNEY? HOW CAN I HELP?
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 22, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
Cool, I’ll watch Judge Judy on Monday! Also, I don’t think some people are able to bring up that petition because I posted the link on my myspace page & there are only 27 signitures on the petition today (Sat). People have mailed me saying they’re having problems with the URL or something.
Comment by Susan — February 23, 2008 @ 8:29 am
Cps are the monsters that took away my 9year old daughter forever and ruined my life. All because of false allegations. These people have more power than the police.
Comment by Hattie — February 23, 2008 @ 8:39 am
Diando thanks for the link to the DC rally. However I went to the Care 2 website and reviewed the petitions there I could not find yours what is the titile its listed under?
Comment by Robert L. Welker — February 23, 2008 @ 9:07 am
Diando
Thanks for the rally website info. Thanks for all of your info
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 23, 2008 @ 9:47 am
mattia gaunichaux
Right now the wife Helen is only requested lots of prayer for them. There has been a trust fund set up for them as that will help with all there expenses and the plane fare that the wife will need to travel back and forth between the daughters in BC and the Cop Hero husband in Ontario. I am sure this is going to be finacially devasting on them and if anyone is in a postion to help them financially the trust fund info can be found at the website: http://www.theinquiry.ca/ Just scroll down the page at that site and you’ll see it.
Comment by Brent — February 23, 2008 @ 9:49 am
Cheryl
Thanks for all of the information that you have shared with me on the rally . Thanks for all of your help
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 23, 2008 @ 9:49 am
Everyone
Thanks for all of your help and the stories both successful and tring . You have helped me a great deal to see how this whole system is working .
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 23, 2008 @ 9:51 am
And God has made so much joyful deeds for us and for his purpose in this time too ,so find out them and be happy and be full of gladnesss and joy and helping the men that find Jesus,thanks too for your pray for gospel.many bless and hope with love,keijo sweden
Comment by keijo — February 24, 2008 @ 3:08 am
To the parents fight in Texas….there is a rally in Dallas against cps on March 1st.
Comment by Moe — February 24, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
ATTENTION PARENTS: If you have an ongoing or pending child welfare case against you DO NOT POST ANYTHING ON THIS SITE. The prosecutor will use it against you as evidence that you’re too mentally ill to raise your child(ren). Also, FightCPS will NOT remove your postings (regardless of what they say about your copyright to it). The webmaster will yell at you if you ask, even when he’s informed that his failure to do so is allowing a prosecutor to abuse a parent.
You can’t fight CPS, you can’t fight the system once they’re involved. The only thing you can do is pack up your kid(s) and run as far and as fast as you can. Leave the country. Living on the streets of Tijuana in a cardboard box is preferable to what the system will do to you if they catch you. The good news is that the state is so incompetent that it’s usually part of their standard operating procedure that if they can’t find you, they close the case.
Your children are better off living in your car than in foster care. RUN. If they even come near your house, if you have *ever* had *any* contact with a social worker, even if they don’t seem to do anything… RUN. Don’t fool yourself into thinking your children are safe. PACK UP YOUR SH*T AND RUN LIKE HELL.
Comment by MJ — February 26, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
I hear you. You have to protect yourself and your family. I did find out that they do moniter this site. I ask myself, why? I waver on commenting on this site ever again, because, “everything that you say can and WILL be used against you”. I believe that this site was created for the right reason, but I think that “they” are feeling the pressure and have gone to dire measures to stop the inevitable. That they have gone to far. Family is first. Things are changing and they are gonna get hit hard. More and more, parents and children are speaking up. Every comment matters. Please, write to your state representative Talk to a friend. Do not stop talking about this unjustice. Make it known. You are not alone.
Comment by Aaron — February 26, 2008 @ 9:58 pm
webring/……childwelfareser………. has a tag on this site
Comment by Aaron — February 26, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
I have my policy and settings to prevent them from viewing my activity, yet they do.
Comment by Aaron — February 26, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
MJ and all:
Folks should use a fake name—and a throwaway email addy.
Hotmail, aol, yahoo.
CPS has been around for a generation and has been like most GUBMENT programs. Mediocre.
Folks are winning lawsuits v CPS.
And with more folks becoming informed of the community of displeased clients of CPS more will become involved.
Linda–has always shown great integrity and character.
California counties seem to have more Grand Juries probing CPS and caseworkers malfeasance than any other state.
Way to go CALIFORNIA!!
Folks there are groups in California, too.
Comment by Fern — February 27, 2008 @ 8:17 am
Lets not forget that CPS can monitor this website BUT they cannot link a specific case to a specific comment with absolute certainty.
Unless you publish your SS#, they can’t prove it is your case posted, no matter how specific you get. Even names are not conclusive evidence that it is a case they handle.
Their are too many cases just like yours. Not to mention, that CPS in your own district would have to monitor this site in hopes that they may stumble on 1 case that they happen to handle. Then proving it is a far different story.
I agree with Fern. People ARE winning and this is a wake-up-call to some states. Our state is looking for a bailout now. Imagine what they’ll need if the many lawsuits here are won.
By sharing info, we can win and maybe, just maybe, effect some checks and balances in the system.
The louder we scream, the more we will be heard.
Comment by Cheryl — February 27, 2008 @ 10:53 am
I am in Texas… Please give me the info on the Rally!
Comment by Diando — February 27, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Cheryl or diando
I had a baby almost 3 weeks ago, as you can tell i have’nt been online too much lately. Well today i just got a knock on the door and it was cps. I did’nt answer the door however i checked my voicemail and they left a message to call them. I was told that someone had called and said that they were concerned that my baby did’nt have everything that he needed and when i asked them where did they hear that they said that they can’t legally tell me that info, I told her that i have a legal right to know. Well she said that she had to see me today and then i told her that i had to contact my attorney first and i would let him talk to her. Well she wanted to come in and check the house and find out if i have been recieving counceling. on my other case which i have been fighting for 3 years now i have done everything that i am suppose to do. i have done the parenting classes, counceling, which i am still in and i enjoy going to i have a great supportive councelor who cares. i am not doing anything wrong. So what should i do? I have to reach my attorney in the morning. She told me that she has to see me and the baby by tommorrow. she asked me if i could come see her at 8:30 am i told her that the attorneys office does’nt even open until 9 and she keeps pressing for first thing. i explained to her that i am not comfortable until i reach my attorney and that this is a last minute thing and i have not had a chance to get my councel together. she wants me to go to her office. I am not comfortable with that. i told her that it’s not a personal thing against her but that i have been lied to and tricked by dcf before and have had a hard time and i just want to do things that smart way. what do you think are my options. i’m in compliance with all of my stuff. However i just don’t want to take a chance with my newborn. to make the same mistake would be tragic. I already know better. Please help and please keep me in prayer
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 27, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
Cheryl,
I would like to know in a state. Does every hospitals, schools, clinics and doctors offices have the parents and children information in their database from DCFS? And, if they key in the birthdate or the name of a child and parent. Would information show up on their computer? Second, I would like to file or join class action lawsuit. Do you have any information on it? Third, When I requested medical and dcfs records at the hospital. By all mean, the Medical Record Employee have to honor my request and give me all of dcfs information in my child record, right? Last-Can dcfs registrar your name and your children to every state in America so they can keep track on the family? Thank you
Comment by retta — February 27, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
Mattia, I hear you. Listen, go online and find a site for DHS/CPS/DCFS, or whatever they are called, in your state. In Oklahoma it is OKDHS.org. In that site, look for Library. It should take you to Instructions for Staff, or something similar. Also, look for Protocols and Guidelines. Every state is different, but they are supposed to meet certain guidelines in order to do what they do. In Oklahoma, without an immediate threat of harm, all they can do is knock on your door or make phone calls. Again, every state has their own set of guidelines. Most parents do not know this until it is too late. Please, look up your states’ DHS/CPS/DCFS site and learn what they are supposed to do. Learn this before they ever come in. Record everything if you can. Write every detail down as soon as you can. Have a witness there with you as it happens. Not a family member, preferably a clergyman or another highly respected associate. Most importantly, as hard as it may be, stay calm and sensible. Learn what it takes, by the law, for them to physically take your child from you. Do not listen to any threats. Make them take your child if they are going to. DO NOT say Ok, I was wrong or I could’ve done better or ya, I did that, or anything like that. They will make the same mistakes that they always have. Do not get violent, do not call them names, stay calm. Maybe if they see that you are not an easy target, like they thought, they will think twice. What could be worse than someone, at your doorstep, threatening to take your child away from you, standing next to an armed officer threatening to put you in jail if you don’t give your child up? Learn what it takes to have the police involved in taking your child. They will have the police with them, if they are insistant. Still, make them take the child. Do not get violent, but keep saying no. The police officer has to decide whether he wants to continue with this, at that time. Do not listen to what they say. MAKE them take your child. If no immediate danger, for the child, is present then he cannot legally do anything. The police officer is, normally, not used to a parent standing up for their rights in a calmly fassion. They know the law and will not react if you stand your ground. The social worker will, however, continue, only if he/she has the backing of the police officer. If they do take a child, stay as calm as you can. They, now, can be liable to felony charges on themselves. Look up your state statutes. In Oklahoma, Title 21 for crimes and punishments, Title 10 for children, every state is different. Under crimes and punishment, look up crimes relating to evidence and crimes relating to public records and documents. These are felony crimes that they get away with, all the time, because a parent doesn’t know this information and they know that. Well, times are changing. Stay calm if it happens that way. Learn the law. That’s how I, luckily, escaped these monsters.
Comment by Aaron — February 27, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
Aaron is right. My suggestions are DO NOT ANSWER THE DOOR! I don’t know what state you are in or if the police work with them there.
Here in Texas they do not work together… If you don’t answer the door or call them back then they don’t have any ammunition against you.. If they come have a video camera going… Video tape everything.. Video tape / take pix’s of your apartment, your baby and interaction between you and him.
Per your constitutional rights they have to have a warrant to enter your home unless you let them in. Study your 4th and 14th Ammendments…
I have a sign in my window right next to my front door which reads
This property is protected by
American Family Rights Association
which supports The Constitution, Bill of Rights and Federal and State Law.
Any attempt on your part to violate Rights or break any Law
and you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
You may also be video and/or audio taped while on these premises.
This is your only warning.
I’m from Texas so I also have, which I don’t suggest “any violations of these rights may result in being shot on site”
We talked to the police after they took the baby and they told us that if we had called them they would not have let them take her. And that we should not have opened the door or let them in. She did force her way in, she put her foot in the door when my son-in-law tried to shut it….
By all means stay calm and don’t let them get to you or show any fear….
My prayers are with you!
P.S. What state are you in?
We were told that once they got in it was too late for them to do anything.
Comment by Diando — February 28, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Retta,
There is a Statewide and Nationwide data base…
My understanding and from the stories that I have read, most states do not cooperate with each other.
It makes sense, each state is out solely for the money. So, why would one state let the other state take their money?
Comment by Diando — February 28, 2008 @ 7:35 am
This is a link to a story and a Petition. I hope the link works.. If not go to Care2. The Petition is named True Life American injustice story”
Click Here: Check out “True Life American injustice story”
Comment by Diando — February 28, 2008 @ 7:44 am
Mattia-
It sounds as they they plan to take the baby anyhow, that is why they are getting demanding. They are threatening you in hopes you will not stand up for yourself. They may not try to take the baby right away, but after athe meeting, who knows what they’ll do.
In your past cse, were your parental rights terminated? This is important. Law says that once you have lost your rights to a child, all subsequent births have to be evaluated for cause. It does not mean that any new children have to be removed, but they do have to be investigated to see if any of the original conditions exsist that caused the first removal of rights. They can investigate and close the case.
Continue to stay calm and just say “no, you do not have my consent to enter” when at your door. Aaron is correct. The officer will back down IF you know your rights. He knows he legally cannot get involved. And as long as you do nothing that could be misconstued as “assault” he can’t arrest. Keep your arms down to your sides. Do not meet them at the door with the baby if at all possible.
Do not go into their office until your atty has advised you. Continue to tell them you have a right to consult your atty before meeting with them.
And DO take a person not related to you as a witness if your atty says it is okay to go. It is preferable to have your atty present always.
Take a personal tape recorder with your witness. Tape the whole thing as is your right to do.
Don’t panic!
Comment by Cheryl — February 28, 2008 @ 8:15 am
Cheryl,
What gives the doctors and hospitals the right to test unsuspecting mothers to be drug tests without their knowledge?
Comment by Diando — February 28, 2008 @ 8:24 am
retta-
Most states have social workers in schools that are trained to see abuse.
Hospitals, clinics and schools etc. are required by federal law to report suspected abuse.
Medical staff can only release medical info on a person IF it is self and IF you paid for the visit. My guess is CPS paid for it, so it’s theirs.
Everytime a CPS investigation occurs that does not close as unfounded, the district in which it happened registers the case # by the parents SS# in the state database and the national database.
And anytime a hospital sees a parents SS# come up (from filling out ER or maternity paperwork) they are required to notify CPS of the visit or birth. They are required to run your SS# thru this database whenever a child comes in. The case # shows up and the district in which the case was opened. Then the CPS office notified can contact that district, even out of state, for the details of the case.
CPS can follow you everywhere in AMerica with this database. Granted, when you move around a lot, it can take years to catch up with you. But so long as you do not have another baby or have a child in need of dire medical attn, they are hard pressed to locate the original file. I know 1 woman now who lost her rights (for good reason) and it took 9 years for them to figure it out. She moved a lot.
But it did catch up with her.
You will need to google to find class actions in your state. My suit is solo.
Comment by Cheryl — February 28, 2008 @ 8:28 am
Mattia-
Also, If they show up at your door, Tell them you will not consent to entry as is your 4th amendment right. Please come back when you have a warrant. Do it kindly and repeat as many times as it takes in the briefest period of time.
Do not allow the police or CPS to change your mind thru threats by giving them more time to badger you and make threats. To end it quicker and take less badgering, you may say “good day to you” and calmly shut the door. Tends to tell people you wish to speak no further and leave.
That should buy you time to get with your atty.
Comment by Cheryl — February 28, 2008 @ 8:58 am
Diando:
I think possibly JJ does not air all their programs on the same time schedule throughout the nation.
I did not see your case on the East Coast published for Monday, according to their Website info.
Course, the JJ Website is poor. Don’t think it has a Search Feature on the site.
However, JJ also fulfills a SOCIAL AGENDA. Possibly there are too many malicious folk calling CPS willy-nilly.
Do they tape the show in LA? Maybe more folks should file in Small Claims for the absolute harm which CPS has inflicted on their potential careers.
Judge Pallmeyer in Illinois had an important ruling in the case of the DuPuy family in IL.
And she was an Appeals Judge.
And we all know that CPS stats are HIGHLY SUSPECT. Because they feed the ancillary industries that bottom feed off of CPS referrals.
I known several folk who have appeared on national network shows illustrating the stupidity and cupidity which is CPS’ hallmark.
Suzanne Shell of Colorado is one person who has been exposing CPS’ to the US for around 15 years.
http://www.profane-justice.org
Best to all. Love your children. Pray for the vultures at CPS. Even their employees diss them and OFTEN.
Comment by Fern — February 28, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Fern,
It wasn’t listed on the JJ Episode guide… It wasn’t even listed locally.. I got the post card the week prior and then on Friday saw us on the previews.
It did air on Monday in Texas.. It was the 2nd half of the 4:30 show..
The last show on Friday afternoon was about a retalliation phone call to CPS also…
After we filed the small claims file we also got several phone calls and paper work from the Judge Mathis show..
Yes, if you know for sure who your caller is file in small claims court.
We did tape in LA. They paid for our round trip tickets, cab to the studio and hotel..
After the taping I was handed $280.00 in cash for food..
We taped the show and when my computer gets back from in the shop I will put on You Tube along with the CPS visit where my granddaughter was very sick and they denied her medical attention…
Comment by Diando — February 28, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
cheryl and diando
I won’t even pretend that i knew what was going to happen or that i was making a good decision. I prayed about my situation and i was troubled. I did’nt want to have to go through the same thing that i had to go through with my other children. Well i found an attorney immediately he took my case. He was so attentive and caring. my sweet 2 and a half week old son was in danger of being taken for a lie and a cruel one at that. I got so blessed. my psycologist was very concerned and church members and we all prayed. God really moved for me in this situation. I told him that i just could’nt do this again. i’m still fighting the 3 year case with my other children for a lie that was told on me. Well the worker came because my psycologist was worried about me not tring to work with her and upsetting them, I told the worker that i was’nt tring to be rude but that i had been burned badly by cps already. Make a long story short it was a victorious day. the worker came and checked everything and said that the baby was fine and that i had everything that i needed and that she would report it to her supervisor. she had a heart. and you don’t find that too much in cps and dcf workers. i am so pleased. i did’nt sign anything still and she showed me some paperwork that i could have my attorney and have him go over it with me. Basically i came to give god all of the glory and to say that it was by no wisdom of my own but that i trusted god on this one and he opened doors like lightening. quick fast and in a hurry i had help from others. I just want my brothers and sisters in christ on the site to know that i recieved a blessing today. i know many of us are still hurting and i am still as well. i just wanted to give god the glory and to thank him for such wonderful people on the site who help each other with great advice. I am learning so very much from all of you. Please lets keep the faith and hang on. there is so much to be done in this system. i have a bunch of my babies to bring back home and so do you guys. i pray that god is speedy in bringing home all of our loved ones. Again, thanks for everything..THANK YOU JESUS FOR THE VICTORY… AND THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR THE VICTORY FOR EVERYONE ELSE THAT IS FIGHTING TO BRING HOME THEIR FAMILIES….
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 28, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
Cheryl & Diando
No i have’nt had my parental rights terminated. They have been tring to do so for two and a half years. This is my third year of fighting it. The gov office is looking at all of my paperwork and the secretay that the gov gave to me to work with to find out what is happening asked me if dcf had the same paperwork that i sent to her. I know that she must be shocked. The whole case is a mess. They took my children for a lie and then told them that i abandonde them. I mean they did so much lieing and i have been holding on to every piece of paperwork for 3 years now. I am so glad that they are looking into it. DCF is saying that they can’t go back into the old stuff of how the case opened. This is just because they don’t want to see all of the wrong.they just say how the old workers are no longer working there any more and so i guess that it’s okay that they tried to reuin my life because they are no longer there. Still the new workers are lieing all the more and causing me pain. well to god be the glory. i’m just going to keep working on my children comming home and not give up.. you guys help me so much to continue to have hope. I thank God for you all and your honesty in your testimonies of what is happening in your lives. god is fixing all of this however i know that we must still use wisdom and do what is right so that he can move on our behalf. God is a god of order. thanks you guys
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 28, 2008 @ 10:49 pm
Cheryl
I know that they want to try to find something. The woman that they sent was very heartfelt. Still from my experience i was not too trusting of her but i did tell her that it was”nt personal i had a bad experience and she said that she understood. Yes thanks for the advice. It was a very scary situation. I just have to continue to speak life to my situation and keep the faith even though i must be honest. It’s not always easy because when your family is gone and you have had faith for 3 years and you still have yet to bring them home. It’s a bitter sweet pain but we must still trust god and it’s not always easy. Lord help us all to be wise in what we do in these cases. Lord please be with Cheryl and Diando and guide them and strengthen them in all wisdom that they may continue to do your will and that they may continue to give the hopeless hope and the weak some strenghth through you christ jesus. we love you…
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 28, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
The longer that my kids stay with their father, the more they are turning into a group of negative, pessimistic children.
My kids use to smile all of the time and be so cheery. There biggest disappointment was losing their privleges for bad grades, or for disrespecting each other.
Now that they are with their father, its as if you can see the light around them fading away. They are use to lots of hugs, kisses, and “I love You” a bunch of times every day. Now, they only get yelled at, and told how bad they are. They’ve made their “boo boo’s” with me, but I’ve never focused on just that. I let them know the good that are and the good they accomplished is acknoledged.
How do these people sleep at night? Cause I know that I haven’t been.
Comment by L.K.H. — February 28, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
Mattia-
If I can help a few folks with all the legal research I’ve done, then great. I feel as though I have an upper hand because I have a background in law. I have some law sites available to me that are not available to the public. That is a blessing.
Having also been thru this messy situation, I can empathize with these people and what they are going thru. So, giving up was never an option for me! And it shouldn’t be to anyone!
You may not have some of the tools I am lucky enough to have, but I can pass on anything I find to others. Nothing wrong or illegal with that.
If I can help just 1 person then I know I’ve done as God wishes of me.
Of course, the more the merrier. LOL
Comment by Cheryl — February 29, 2008 @ 8:12 am
Diando:
Thanks for your prompt and comprehensive reply.
It does seem that CPS has commited so many errors with cases that they deserve to be held up to public ridicule.
Worst yet, are the children who are maliciously placed into FC when there are fit and interested relatives ready to support the accused.
So much does depend on the policies of the states involved.
TX has a long-extant group in:
http://www.txcfr.org
Texas is also the home state of the caseworker turned against the DFPS system; her name is Teresa Cunio.
“Dark Secrets within Child Protective Services.”
When I used the term malpractice as applied to CPS, I intend to make the Supervisors responsible. Sometimes they are trained social workers, with BSW or MSW degrees and certifications.
Again, folks can go against the Supervisors who do often hold “Errors and Omissions Insurance” or Malpractice insurance.
TX is one state that even allows DFPS workers to have money taken from their paycheck for THAT INSURANCE.
How many folks in Texas realize that??
And yes, too, the caseworkers, I believe have this insurance available to them.
Perhaps you could give us some guidance on this.
It used to be on the TX DHS Website.
Course Texas changes its name so often they are difficult to track down.
From TDPRS to DFPS–the Texas newspapers evidently do not even cover CPS much, except in Houston.
Best wishes. F.
Comment by Fern — February 29, 2008 @ 9:50 am
I did a license check on all of our Caseworkers and Supervisors.. Only one of them has a license..
The one that has the license is the one that neglected to get my granddaughter medical treatment..
My mom was a counselour for the really bad gang kids and told me that all of them have to be insured and that the money is taken directly out of their checks to pay for the insurance…
According to our Governor, Rick Perry all caseworkers are to be held accountable for their actions. I’m looking foward to holding him to that.
I have not yet had the time to sit down and write a letter to him.
I am doing research on how to file a Tort claim. I have the form but want to get it right the first time.
As far as the newspaper covering CPS, no they don’t. There is a paper called the Houston Press that does do stories about them though.
The news has recently been doing quite a few stories on them though.
Comment by Diando — February 29, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Cheryl
Thanks for the information
Comment by retta — February 29, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
LKH
I’m so sorry about your situation. I can totally relate to what you are saying about seeing your childrens joy and light fadeing. I can empathize with you so well on that. we are a hugging and i love you type of family too. I swear i was wondering as well how can people sleep at night. I said the same exact thing. I was speaking with a woman about my case and i told her the same thing and she said to me that although we would like to think that the average person is genuine that sometimes we have to look outside of the box and realize that some people sit around all day and think of ways to hurt others. they plot and plan on being mean and destroying things in the lives of others. I don’t mean to sound negative but i must say, that my psycologist told me that you have to just know that the world is like that and i am better able to deal with my DCF situation without being sick to my stomach because i now realize that not everyone cares and that some people get jobs in areas where they can hurt people. they have a plan to get some sort of revenge and that some workers are working in this field to hurt children and families . but there are some good people out there and you are one of them so just hold on and take your experience and help someone else and in the meantime someone else will be helping you. that is how the world keeps turning. each one helping one another.. and as you see that your able to help someone because of your painful experience you will begin to smile again. and in the meantime someone will be taking their experience to help your family. Just use your energy wisely and keep fighting and when you need to cry. cry hard and stay around positive people and keep reading the posts on the site. I know that every once in a while there is a good report and soon we will be reading your great report on what has happened to your children. I believe that great things are going to happen for you.. I’ll be praying for your childrens safe return and that god place someone good in their lives to help them while you are away from them… May god be with you
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 29, 2008 @ 7:47 pm
Cheryl
Now that is great. I did’nt know that you had some law…. learn something everyday. I did however think that through pain and experience you had alot of knowledge. I thank god for you and how you share and help keep women and men from falling apart by the grace of god. I’m telling you. you are totally a vessel being used by god. these situations are the hardest thing to get throug. when dealing with the loss of children and total trama like this ,,it is enough to send you to the mental hospital. My god i pray your strengh in the lord that he may keep you in perfect peace and that you continue in what you do for all of us here by the grace of god…
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 29, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Diando
that is great info.. I never even thought of that.. a worker not being properly licenced. wow
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 29, 2008 @ 7:55 pm
A CHINS WAS FILED BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION. tHE FORMER CASA ON THE CASE NOW HAS CUSTODY OF MY DAUGHTER. ANYONE WITH INFORMATION OR ADVICE…OR A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE PLEASE CONTACT ME AT ANGEL29KISSEZ@YAHOO.COM
Comment by ANGEL — February 29, 2008 @ 8:41 pm
Hello there to you all.. Im a kiwi living in New Zealand and we have similar problems with whom we call CYFS. Alot of our childrens lawyers will do what CYFS say, well after all they pay them, so to keep the money rolling in they will do as they are told.. They make me totally sick, our system sucks as yours does..CYFS lie, twist things,commit perjury, but never made accountable and the most horrendous crime they commit is “Stealing children.” They say they work with families, what a load of shite..anyway I wish all you people the best in your fight for JUSTICE…
Comment by Family destruction — March 1, 2008 @ 5:39 am
Good things are in store for us all.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 2, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
Mattia,
Thank you so much for your kind words. I have to admit, that it made me cry. But hey…..you said it….sometimes you’ve got to. I’ve just been so focused on everything, that I can’t even remember when was the last time that I did cry. A lot of the times I try not to because my toddler age daughter is still with me, and will wipe my tears and worry herself sick if she sees that mommy is upset. I have been focusing a lot of my energy in trying to help others, especially in this site. I’m not a legal expert, but I try to read up on other people’s stories and keep them from making the same mistakes I did. If I knew back then what I know now, I could have avoided a lot of grief. But since I can’t, I try to keep others from making the same mistake that I did. Thank you again for your kind words and encouragement. I really touched me. God bless you. I’ll be praying for all of the families who are going through the same heart ache.
Comment by L.K.H. — March 2, 2008 @ 7:46 pm
Diando,
I’m curious as to what Rick Perry can do. I wrote to Michael McCaul, and he said that he only deals with federal issues. Isn’t violation of Constituional rights a Federal Issue? He said that he was going to forward the email that I sent him to the honorable something, something. To sum it up, just like all other Texas officials, he was just “passing the buck”. Let me know if you get a REAL response.
Comment by L.K.H. — March 2, 2008 @ 7:57 pm
L.K.H
A great place to cry in private,, is in a steamy shower.. no one will know but you and God. make sure the teperature is comfortably hot .the tears and water will mix..it’s such a relief. and the baby won’t wonder what’s wrong with mommy
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 3, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
mattia - I am in CT and I have many questions for you can you please email me at thecaseyfamily@sbcglobal.net
Thanks
Comment by sharon — March 3, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Mattia,
That was great advice….but just one problem, she likes to take a shower with me. At one time I tried to jump in the shower alone since she had fallen asleep (we had just gotten home after a long day of shopping). While I was in there, she woke up and was so upset that I had jumped in without her that she jumped in fully dressed!! She still had her socks and shoes on!! She’s a typical toddler…..meaning…..she is just quite the littel character!! But thank you for your support.
Comment by L.K.H. — March 3, 2008 @ 11:05 pm
3/15 LA rally…Everybody in LA County, let’s do this! Before when I visited this site I got depressed by the bickering and lack of inertia in mobilizing. Now we’ve got this rally handed to us on a silver platter so be there or be square! Get educated, network, be part of the body count and send a message. Maybe the LA TIMES will cover it. I forwarded the petition rally info to my county supervisor’s children’s deputy and to a LA Times reporter. Pass the word.
Comment by dee dee — March 3, 2008 @ 11:46 pm
Dee Dee:
Get in touch with Troy Anderson of the Daily News.
He has often covered CPS stories, from the angle of of upset parents and families.
I believe CPS is his beat.
Thank you so much for submitting this item. Please join Message Boards, here, too.
Thanks, Linda. Your persistence in helping famiies mirrors your faith in the Creator.
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — March 4, 2008 @ 6:37 am
Sharon:
2 groups in CT.
One listed at:
http://www.profane-justice.org
Look under Advocates.
Other one Google:
DCFWatch at yahoogroups.com
Best. F.
Comment by Fern — March 4, 2008 @ 6:38 am
TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!! IM IN THE PROCESS NOW IN GETTING AN OMBUDSMAN INVOLVED IN MY CASE………..VA. PASSED THE LAW LAST YEAR TO HAVE THEM …..THERES NOT MANY STATES THAT PROVIDE THEM BUT ITS WORTH A TRY…….. IN MY CASE……. A …..C.A.S.A (COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATE) GOT CUSTODY OF MY LITTLE GIRL ….ONLY AFTER FIGHTING MY BABYSITTER FOR A YEAR ACCUSING ME OF ABONDEMENT WHEN IN FACT I COULD OF CHARGED HER WITH KIDNAPPING!!!! I COULD NOT GET IN CONTACT WITH HER FOR LIKE 6 DAYS…….ANYWAY…… SO THE C.A.S.A. ON THE CASE FILED FOR CUSTODY AND WON…. I HAVE DONE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THE COURT HAS ASKED… I HAVE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT…….I JUST KEEP PRAYING……..MY LITTLE GIRL HAS BEEN AWAY FROM ME SINCE SHE WAS 2YRS SHELL BE 6YRS TOMMORW…………I DO GET TO VISIT HER ONLY IF I PAY….FAMILY SOLUTIONS…….ON TOP OF THAT…1200$ IN CHILD SUPPORT A MONTH FROM US BOTH ME AND HER FATHER (MY HUSBAND) HAVE WORKED 2 JOBS AND EVERYTHING….NOTHING IS EVER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS JUDGE …….MY G.A.L. ON THE CASE FILED A EMERGENCY MOTION….BECAUSE SHE FELT THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS IN DANGER ( WITH THE FORMER C.A.S.A)…..AND THE JUDGE DENIED THE MOTION A FEW MONTHS LATER I HAVE FILED ONE BUCAUSE THE SAME REASON THE G.A.L. DID AND MORE DISTURBING EVEDANCE AND HE DENIED IT AGAIN……………..YOU KNOW SO IM THINKING IS THIS GOING TO BE ANOTHER KELSEY BRIGGS CASE……SO WE SENT OUT INFO ALL OVER TO GET THIS CASE REVIEWED…….. HOPFULLY SOMEONE WILL REACH OUT AND SEE THAT MY LITTLE GIRL NEEDS TO COME HOME. ALL OF YOU ARE IN MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS……..WHERES THE JUSTICE………….ONLY WHEN CHILDREN DIE DO PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SAY I THINK SOMETHING WENT WRONG……..WHY DO THEY WAIT TILL THAT POINT……..ANY WAY…… IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TALK….. FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME WHENEVER …. GOD-BLESS ALL
Comment by angel — March 4, 2008 @ 10:51 am
Angel
It sounds like another case of babies for sale to me. It’s a sad but true situation. First they steal your children and then they want you pay child support. I will be praying for you as well
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 4, 2008 @ 2:56 pm
thank you mattia……. what has this world come to…………if nothing is done any case worker or casa or cps can just walk in your home and if they want your kid they can have them! like a @#$%!@# shoping network ……….they take your history and confidential info and use it against you…………this phyco took my baby………MY BABY LIVES WITH HER AND HER FAMILY………..I ,,,,,,she calls me by my first name and the casa is mommy……….CAN WE SAY ALIENATION…….it so hard on me at visits the theripist sees it all and she dont even agree ….. the G.A.L.dont even agree….and i know i have to stay strong for her……the judge is showing major bias being she was a casa..
Comment by ANGEL — March 4, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Angel
I know that you may not want to hear this right now, mainly because it kinda cuts to the heart. God is concerned about your situation. I know the prejudice in the system is real. However there is a prejudice in Christ Jesus. It’s called the favor of god. Some people get away with things that others don’t , It’s kinda crazy but true. God watches over you and all of your pain …believe me he is aware of it all. Take your energy and begin to channel it towards your personal relationship with God and he will give you peace. You may not get your children back right away or maybe never i don’t mean to sound careless but we have to look at things in the natural. I have been fighting a battle for 3 years and i did nothing just like some of you. I have tons of proof , still i have to go through the motions. You know what , DCF told the judge that my son does’nt call my mommy but mattia, They kept my now 6 year old son from speaking to me for over 2 years. They finally had to let me speak to him. They said that the child psychologist said that it was not a good idea. Well i won’t go into all of this however they did’nt want to give me the psycologists name and paperwork on whether or not this is true. I tell you the truth. I speak life about my situation and say that they will come home before the age of 18. Faith is all that i have however faith without works is dead so i keep fighting in the meantime. What i have focused on now is making my life good so that when the children are home, whether or not it’s after 18 or not that i have great life insurance for them, Money saved up for their college. I’m looking into buying some land so that each of them will always have a home to call their own. I know that it does’nt take away from the pain that they go through now and it will never go away. Even when your children do come home, you will be thinking about the disney vacation that you all missed or the great thanksgiving that was miserable because the children weren’t there with the rest of the family. You can’t let them win by allowing it to eat at your soul, but you can become a success so that you don’t become what they said that you were in the first place.. I have alot of plans to make things better for people so that they don’t go through what i had to go through. However it’s going to take the experience that i went through. Life is a strange thing and i tell you the truth, God is by your side, You may not have what you want but do know that the lord is with you and he knows all about your trouble. I hope that i did’nt offend you. My children have been raped, molested, abused, starved, dirty oh my god it’s amazing but i tell you what i was lied on and have proof and still honey i have to keep faith in god that he knows what is best for me. It will all work out for you. All things work together for the good for thoes who love the lord.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 5, 2008 @ 2:32 am
Cheryl & Diando
guess who is comming over AGAIN!!! well i just recieved a telephone call from mrs DCF, she called with her little friendly voice asking me how i was. I told her fine. She asked me if she could come over today because she needed to check the house.,I told her that i thought that she did that already and she said that she has but that she has to do it two times and then she so call corrected herself and said well that she has to come to visit a few times with in the 45 day case review. I told her that i was not aware that i had a case and she said yes that the minuite that someone called and reported me that i recieved a case. So i suppose that they got some extra money for opening up another case load for another lie told. But to god be the glory. I give him all of the praise because. Satan can do nothing unless god allow it and i believe that my God allows them to do just enough to hang themselves. I know that all things work together for the good for thoes who love the lord. I’m not going to cry anymore. I’m going to praise god for what he is going to do in my life and the others. It’s time for a change. To god be all of the glory
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 5, 2008 @ 10:15 am
mattia,
i do have faith in the lord and belive he has a reason for everything he does its just i guess harder for me knowing that i will never know my real mom or dad (im adopted) and i was in 9 foster homes before the age of 5 and i put back into foster care ,i was abused and everything.until 14…….the system scares me even more cause i myself as a child has been through it . i have made my holy communion, my confirmation. i do pray……sometimes i do feel i should more often though……..i still talk to my adopted mom.and my 5 brothers(1 is my natural brother) my real mom wanted us adopted together………i do know mattia that he dose have a reason for everything……and my case is going to make the biggist impact on the state of va. because tons of illigal things were done.. our system here sucks…..
i will continue to love even though ive been hurt countless times,share my stories hoping it will impact some people one way or the other ,forgive even though its so hard too! everyone is human and one way what goes around always comes around ,pray leave it in his hands to judge,and fight all the way through ….he has blessed me and my daughter with a gift we both have the passion for animals. i will go for now and get back to work thanks for your advice and understanding it really feels good to her positive things and to look foward no matter what
Comment by angel — March 5, 2008 @ 10:48 am
Angel
You are comming from a stand point that is different for some. You have lived as a foster child and i’m sure that you just want to be a great mom and be to your children all that your mom was’nt able to be to you. I can’t even say that i understand because i can never. i was’nt a foster child. i was raised by someone other than my mom and i went through alot of things too. we all have different stories. The judges are’nt always right. I won’t even begin to say that lie. I will say that they are in the position to decide, So lets pray that god guide the hearts of the judges and that the judges be merciful. the thing is that you be okay. keep healing in your heart. I don’t even claim to have all of the answers. my case was and is a load of lies and still i’m fighting. The system is a mess. not us. well have a good day at work. Oh it’s not in the outside things that you do for god. god looks at the heart. No matter what, sometimes we do outside things that are fleshly but the heart…only god can judge. and only god can judge you. have a wonderful day… It’s not you, dcf is just looking for another life to destroy. they just called me this morning wanting another visit to see what they saw the last time and that is that i did nothing wrong. Some one told them that my 3 week old infant did’nt have all that he needed. Well he did and they just saw that last week and now they want to come again this week. they are a mess. they now have an open case they say until 45 days. I swear , i just don’t know. I already have been waiting 3 years to bring my other children home.And now this,,, but to god be the glory
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 5, 2008 @ 11:43 am
i want name and e mail address
Comment by james winkler — March 7, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
May God bless all of you and I hope you who have lost children get them back soon. My case was closed many years ago (I was falsely accused by a neighbor who couldn’t have kids so she hated everyone who did have them) but I never got my old life back. That is, I went on to be happy again but the fear never left me that I would be falsely accused again. It became a part of who I am.
Comment by Judy — March 8, 2008 @ 10:47 am
Judy
Thanks. Yeah i know what you mean. It’s amazing that all one has to do is accuse you. I pray that fear will leave your life.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 8, 2008 @ 12:04 pm
Hi im sorry to all that are fighting to get your kids back ive been there done that i was without my kids for 2 and a half months it was the hardest time of my life my daughters teacher acussed my finance of hitting my child i knew this wasnt true but i did the parenting classses and i recorded everthing said and did the theripy in the middle of the theripy i found out she was friends with my worker so i asked to see another one turns out i only needed 4 meetings before i was done also in court they took pics of the suposid brusis on my kids and the pics came out fuzzy ha thats cause there was nothing also i often wonder if the judge even listened to what people were saying the teacher claimed under othe that it was a quater size gash and cps claimed it was a red welt and i had a pic of it being a sratch from a plant i was laughing so hard how could it be all three also when the worker came to my home he claimed my feince hit her with a coat hanger i told him to check we didnt use them he refused saying he wasnt an investigator ? then what was he doing in my house asking ? about my kids but sure enough 2 hours after he left 3 workers and 1 cop came to my house to take my kids on a sunday no less i fought so much about what the foster parents were allowing my 5 year old to do i was banned from asking anything to my children if i did i wouldnt be able to see them but hey if i dont let her play halo X-box game thats rated R and clean dog poo why is it allowed for the foster parents to use my child as a slave to wrap this all up when my children were returned and my case was closed me and my fience got married 1 year after on the day they were returned and easter will make our 1 year anaversary i want to encorage u all never give up dig up dirt ? everthing
Comment by deborah — March 20, 2008 @ 10:33 pm
Deborah
Thanks for the encouraging words. I’m happy for you .. great success story.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — March 25, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
The audacity of your website bothers me. I grew up in Court system and it sucked, but I can imagine it could have been worse with my family, in fact I know it. Please remember social workers are judges of character - and i think we’ve all made bad character choices in relationships - but cudos to each one for starting off well intentioned to protect children.POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT is a quality of a good parent so stop being a hippocrate and look up constructive criticism in a book, get some parenting and anger management skills and try again with a website that has your goal for your children advertised rather than your bitter shame.
Comment by Amanda — April 3, 2008 @ 3:59 am
Amanda,
I also lived in foster care, and trust me I was better off with my real family, infact I was sent back there to live. Furthermore, social workers don’t judge people on character, but how much money they can get off each child. If you do not like we have to say on this website do not visit it!!! We are here to get the message out on how corrupt the system is, not to advertise anything. I have been in parenting classes, and did the anger mangement thing, and you know what I still lost my children. How dare you judge us, have you ever been put in our shoes? My goal for my children is to get them home where they belong, not raised by strangers who care about how much money my child is worth. How long were you in foster care? they sure did a number on you!!!
Comment by Kandice Cantrell — April 3, 2008 @ 5:13 am
Amanda
Not everyone has shame and not everyone has done what they have been accused of. The system is a mess and for thoes children who are being abused well then it’s a sad situation and these services are needed. However for thoes who not abused and dcf is using them for a check and for job security well then shame on them and bitterness. After all. You will reap what you sow and that is real. Sorry for your loss by the way. I wish that things could have been better for you. I have such a love for children and hate to see anyone especially a child go through terrible things like this.
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — April 7, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
I went to trial and my children are comming home. I thank God. This has been a long, stressful and terrible road that no innocent person should have to endure. I thank God for Jesus…for without him, i would not have made it through this tough time. can you believe that my DCF workers had the nerve to be angry. This whole thing was very painful. To everyone else.. please hang in there and continue to support one another in the quest to get all of our children home where they belong.. in safe and loving homes
Comment by mattia gaunichaux — April 29, 2008 @ 7:16 pm
CPS harrassed and threatened my ex-wife and my autistic son for almost 5 years in Westchester County, New York. It started one day when my son, who has a disability and has trouble communicating, threw a loud tantrum when his TV set was not working properly — someone called CPS and the investigation and harrassment began. The neighborhood where they live is a good one, so CPS seemed to show up there very often and for no reason at all many times over the years, and one of their incompetent staff threatened my son’s mom with taking him away in front of my son repeatedly. Over the years that ensued, my son developed seizures, his mom disintegrated health wise as she could not sleep, and recently CPS called me to say that if I did not pick up my son immediately at their White Plians offices he would be taken away by the State.
I picked him up of course but when I could not retrieve him from school the following school day (a Monday) due to my Job, they wrested him away from his mother and put him in a group home where he is at the top of the scale regarding the children there (mental acuity) , and he is already regressing sharply. It is a safe place but way below my son’s developmental level. It may cause serious lifelong ramifications.
Several caretakers at the Home state that he does not belong there, and all my son can say is that he wants to come home, and he is scared to death.
CPS has refused to let me take him out of the Group Home on weekends as the4y claim he has to become acclimated to the home, but that is not the case. They are just bullying their way to a Law Suit on my part.
I am looking for an aggressive knowledgable Attorney who knows the ins and outs of the Westchester County, NY. Social Services and CPS system, one who actually fights against their unconstitutional actions and has in the past fought to return victimized children to their parent(s).
Thank you for your consideration. My direct number is (914)672-9265.
George Gary Mantell
Comment by George Gary Mantell — May 29, 2008 @ 9:45 am