FightCPS Guestbook for February 2008

This is the guestbook for February 2008. You’re welcome to tell us about yourself and why you’re here.

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Husband’s two nieces ages 10 and 13 removed from their parents custody last week, the younger allegedly plucked right out of Riley Hospital for Children. They were put in undisclosed foster home. Parents had to appear before a judge that next Tuesday. They could not speak. A twenty page document was presented to the judge “supporting” allegations. They have no idea why this happened or who compiled the documentation. Younger child is ill with immune syndrome and cries in pain at night. Foster care cannot give her anything. Child back in school but principal has letter from physician stating she cannot attend school. Appointed attorney will not return calls nor will the social worker on the case. What can they do?

Comment by Kris Wilcher — February 1, 2008 @ 2:40 pm

tHEY MUST GET THEIR OWN ATTORNEY ASAP. THAT ATTORNEY CAN FILE A PETITION. A DEMAND UNDER THE “FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF 1974″ TO A COMPLETE COPY OF THE FILE CPS HAS. THEN THEY CAN BEGIN THE FIGHT.

Comment by Cheryl — February 1, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

in the meantime, tell them not to allow any interviews with CPS at all. They can easily say something damning without meaning to.

Do not let them into the home!!!! If they appear at the door, have the parents step out doors and say ” you do NOT have permission to enter”.
Repeat it as many times as needed until they get the point and leave. Say nothing else, just that they do not have permission. Suggest that IF the want to talk at all, it must be at their office with your attorney present. Do nothing whatsoever without the attorney present.

I know it means waiting on them to be available and actually pick up a phone to return calls, but they need to be patient. This process takes time. If they don’t do it, the case will go on even longer than a few months.

Once you have allowed these people into your home, the real trouble begins and the case balloons even bigger. Letting them in constitutes “permission” which negates the need of a warrant. Without permission, they can not enter. They will try to make you believe otherwise, but the law backs you up and they cannot get the poie to back them up either.

If they let them in, CPS will then have all the power!!!!!!!!!!

The next thing they will / may ask them to do is: “if you sign over custody to a relative, you will be able to visit your kids and get them back sooner. If you don’t, you will never see your kids again”.
It’s a trick!!!!!!!

Famous tactic they use for a voluntary POA. by the parents. Then later, they use that POA in court to show that you really were not interested in “cleaning up your act” but never really wanted to parent kids in the 1st place. Trust me, this is most likely going to happen next>>>>>it did to just about all of us here.

It stinks…but they have to get thru this with patience. CPS feeds on making you impatient enough to mess up and say something stupid. And they use all you comments against you in court.

They apply the pressure to deliberatley irritate you. As long as you believe their lies, they win.

PLEASE!@@@@@@ LEARN YOU 4TH AND 14TH AMMENDMET RIGHTS. THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO CPS CASES AGAINST SEARCH AND SEIZURE AND THE RIGHT TO PARENT ANY WAY YOU SEE FIT BARRING IMMEDIATE LIFE THREATING DANGERS.

You’ll find them on the menu bar to the right on this home page.

Comment by Cheryl — February 1, 2008 @ 4:13 pm

CPS TOOK MY NEWBORN BABY AND MY 17 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER THERE IS NO DEPENDANCY LAWYERS TO HELP ME OUT SO IF ANYONE CAN HELP GET MY CHILDREN BACK IN MY CARE IT WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATED CPS TOOK MY TWO CHILDREN AWAY ON RISKS WE HAVE LETTERS FROM OUR DAUGHTERS DAYCARE CENTER AND HER PHYSICIAN THAT OUR CHILDREN WERE WELL CARED FOR AND LOVED. CPS WILL NOT GIVE MY FAMILY MEMBERS MY CHILDREN UNTIL COURT. PLEASE FAMAILY IN NEED OF HELP TO LET OUR CHILDREN BE WITH THEIR PARENTS.

Comment by ROCHELLE — February 1, 2008 @ 8:11 pm

Please go to this site read and sign. Help us to keep our babies http://cpsissue.blogspot.com/2008/02/we-need-your-assistance.html
Thank you
Peggy

Comment by Peggy — February 1, 2008 @ 9:03 pm

MY Spouse got a phone call that morning from someone asking for me without giving any form of identifacation my spose says im not here & hangs up then another call claiming that they want to see our children with me not being home & no clue of whose calling, my spouse refuses then hangs up the phone. 10-15 minutes later police are at the door trying to kick it in.with several onlookers &passer byers my wife says she will let them through the back window.They come in open the front door let in the other officer. At which point with no paperwork or explaination they say “put the cuffs on” took our children,took my spouse to the hospita “in which she was released in less than 24 hours.” On the return of my spouse, we went to cps, asking questions in a attempt to get our children back , in which we were given a court date. No explanation as to why they confinscated our children. We were also told to brig clothes and toys for our children in which we complied. In which resulted in a 1-2 hour visit with out supervision. After the visit we were informed that we would have a community team meeting. Which we have no clue of what that is. We were instructed to obtain several character witnesses to speak on the behalf of us and our children. We were told that all they want from us is psychological evaluation. We have not been to court yet, but we’re wondering what rights did they violate. Also how could we get our children back. They came looking for me and violated my family if anyone has has help please let us know. We are willing to make some form of a payment plan. Any suggestions?!!

Comment by Donell & Latasha — February 1, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

CPS RUINED SOMWONE CLOSE TO ME FROM AGE 12 UNTIL HE’LL SOON BE 30 AND HIS MIND IS MUSH. WHEN TAKEN AT 12 HE HAD TESTED AT 12TH GRADE LEVEL IN C.A.T. TESTS. DAMN THE CPS GOONS.

Comment by FRANK SULLIVAN — February 2, 2008 @ 3:37 pm

To all above….

Please listen to Cheryl… Also, I know that most of you cannot afford an attorney… As we could not either..

My granddaughter was taken… wrongfully… my kids let them in….

The Investigator even put in her report, which was used against my daughter in court, that “she got up at 3:00 am and rocked her baby back to sleep”

This is a no, no in CPS’s eyes!

First and foremost, a video camera, or a voice recorder, perferably a video camera, buy one, borrow one, what ever means it takes you get one…

CPS does NOT like to filmed.. If they tell you that you can’t do that, tell them yes, I can, it is my constitutional right!

If you can afford to buy the court transcripts, by all means get them….

Most of what happens in court you can’t remember…

Any meeting, or anthing, video tape it…

If they will not allow that… then don’t speak or meet with them unless you can have an attorney present…

They lie!!!!!!!!! You say it is a bright sunny and and they will turn it around and say that you said it was gloomey…

That means in their translation… your are depressed and violent….

I was told at a permancy placement meeting 3-4 weeks after they took my granddaughter that they were going to adopt her out and I had NO rights..

I have it on audio recording… We didnt’ let them know we were recording until at the last minute…

It scared the crap out of them… Trust me what Cheryl is saying is all true..

They will corner you and do their best to make you look bad…. Never, I repeat never say anything without a recorder or video camera present.

If you can get your hands on one… even if it doesn’t work… take it and let them see it and pretend it is working…

Always try to be one step ahead of the game….. If they aske the caseworker or DA to do something, you go and do it and file it with the court…

They are not going to do it in order to make the case last longer…

Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 9:29 pm

Chery,

Are you going to post your interview? I am!

Also, I’m going to make copies of it and send it out to all Senators, etc…

If you send me yours, I will send it to my Senators etc… here in Texas… I have about or close to 100 other peoples stories…

I will make copies of mine and send it to your Senators as well.

Do you know about Senator Nancy Schaefer?

Well she is the 50th Senator, and a woman!

So, we need to get the rest of them informed…

I dont’ know about you, but, I’m not letting this go! Were you sent Interogeratorie questions?

I was, and had to answer and submit them to the courts.

They asked me for every single man/or person that I have ever slept with… they wanted his name, age and dob.

Not to mention, I had to release my other kids names, dob etc..

They are going to go after my other kids now…

I have 4 grandkids and one more on the way…

2 of my daughters have graddaughters have graduated college..

This particular one was about to go back to school, but they stepped in and destroyed their lives…

Are you going to be at the Rally in Washington DC on August 19th?

Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 9:40 pm

Donnell and Latasha,

There is a way to get your child back in 72hrs.

I’m sorry to report that I don’t know it…

Hurry and do research and find it out….

‎”‎Justice4court@aol.com‎”‎

E-mail this person and he may know the answer, if not will be able to direct you where to go!

Comment by Diando — February 2, 2008 @ 10:32 pm

I believe I have traced this back to the evil bastards that work for the CIA (Central Imbicile Agency). After they ceased my daughter through CPS they tried to paint a picture of their dad as a paranoid lunatic who believed there was a conspiracy but there was to much evidence to support my position so they eventually withdrew there petition but not before they thoroughly traumatized her and performed medical proceedures on her without my consent. All I can do is pray that God will divide these monsters they way they are dividing families.

God be with you all as you battle these illegal aliens.

Comment by Brent Matthews — February 3, 2008 @ 10:45 am

Hi my name is marcy and my 3 children were taken from me on april 23 2007 a social worker came in and said that my fiance was abusing my oldest child i feel the reason they took my children was because nine yrs ago my son was shaken to death by his father so they felt i was unable to protect my children i am still fighting to get them back and it has been hard the only thing i can say to peoiple is never give up no matter how hard it is and no matter what they throw at you…. if there is anything else you can help me with plesae let me know thank you

Comment by Marcy — February 3, 2008 @ 8:31 pm

I believe whole heartedly that our system needs to be reformed. DCFS has taken my son and held him hostage for over a year. They have provided no evidence beyond hearsay but have convinced the judge of my guilt even though no charges were ever filed and none are pending.

Comment by Chuck — February 3, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

My daughter was taken from me in march of 2007 after her mother had abused her by bracking her leg. I have been fighting this case for almost a year just for them to say that they want to terminat my rights. My daughter has never been in any danger while in my care though they try to say otherwise. They have done nothing but try to tare my family apart.They put her with foster parents and i have requsted many times that they put her in care of my family members and they have done nothing. the foster parents my daughter is with are freinds with my case worker and other people involved in my case and have said that they want to adopt her. I feel that this is the reason that they want to terminat my rights. My court apointed attorny has treatend to drop my case because i get upset abought this stuff and he wants to do nothing. Where can i get some help? my daughter means every thing to me The system has done nothing but hurt us will anyone help?

Comment by jeremy foster — February 3, 2008 @ 11:28 pm

to all the new cases reported above,

Do not agree to a Phys exam or any other type of exam voluntarily. These exams are really not about getting your kids returned as CPS says they are. They are REALLY about trying to expose the inner you for info they can use against you later. It is a “fact finding” expedition they are on. REALLY!!!!!

Been there done that.

And when you think about it…aren’t you very, very upset right now. Of course you’ll say things out of emotion that shouldn’t be said at these exams. We’d all like to think we won’t, but when we are this upset, and hit this many block walls trying to get our kids back, we become depressed and THAT is what they want the Pyhs. to say in his report to the court.

That is why you’ll find most CPS workers put off the Phys. exam for a few months in scheduling. They are trying to allow you enough time to become ezxtremely depressed and distraught…or hopefully a suicidal risk.

They know how to play this game. STAY 1 STEP AHEAD. KNOW WHA THEY ARE UP TO. ASK THESE PEOPLE AND ME. WE’VE BEEN THERE AND CAN ALMOST TELL YOU THE NEXT STEP THEY WILL TAKE…EVERYTIME.

Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 8:26 am

Diando-

I am going to post all I can! I want this soooo public, the state can’t weasel out of anything.
I know of Nancy Schaeffer and her work in this field. Her public opinion is that CPS is too far gone to be reformed. It needs to be abolished completely. Then, start over fresh!
And I agree.

It seems their really are those families that are terribly dysfunctional still, but those are not who CPS targets. They target the poor or middle income working class for good reason.

As a point of fact…on of the 5 case managers on my case said “we’ve been following the family for 4 years now and this is the 1st time we’ve had anything concrete to use”.

So I asked myself, why 4 years of watching but no case opened? Then I found out about the Adoption Incentive program and how the state payroll works here for case managers. It answered all my questions!!!

Seem that case managers must balance at least 6 open cases per month. If they drop below 6, they will lose their “salary bonus” for that month.

So they follow other families and keep track of them. Then when they have to close a case or two, they have 1 or 2 targets to open cases on, so they won’t lose that payroll bonus.

Now, that is really wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I found that the woman that opened the case against my daughter, was a brand new employee and had -0- cases. She had to build them quickly. So she plucked 6 targets from the “watch” file and wala!! Bonus within the first months’ employment.!

We’re not talking peanuts either. In this state, that bonus above base salary is $1000.

No wonder they have more incentive to keep cases open as long as possible.

Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 8:43 am

i have a family planning meeting on the 6th where i am just going to sighn over my rights to my aunt. i cant take it any more they have tore me apart in the worst way to fight would mean a death sentence to me. i cry as i write….. please pray for me and my family

Comment by michelle — February 4, 2008 @ 11:29 am

Michelle-

Don’t you dare give up!!! You have to put on your armor! You don’t think I cried and felt the same? I did. ANd not just in the beginning. I spent 5 days crying from 12/21/12/26 Xmas 2007!

I was told “bring in the evidence that the foster family were criminals. I did just that and you know what… Friday before Xmas…the judge ruled that he wanted drug tests done on the foster family BUT he severed all family contact, too.

Imagine how I felt 4 days before xmas with that. It hurt sooo bad. I cried everyday and night until I made myself sick the day after Xmas. Now this is 13 months AFTER they got my grandkids.

I was always the strong one so it killed me to let go and cry. But in the end it gave me the strenght to keep up the good fight. I am NOT going to lose!!
The biggeast mistake my daughter and I made was on 12/6/2006 when she signed a POA to me. That POA has spent over a year coming back to haunt us and nearly driven us insane. The POA was used repeatedly against us.

If I had it all do do over again, I would never have insisted my daught sign that POA. But I was ignorant at the time.

You, on the other hand, have the ability to see the future thru me and some others here who have been thru the process, step by step and won!! PLEASE take advantage of it. It will give you a much better chance in the end.

YOU CAN WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Cheryl — February 4, 2008 @ 1:01 pm

i’m a grandmother of two children who were taken by ocs because of so called domestic abuse. my grandchildren can’t even visit me in my home because of this situation, and a charge that was put on my youngest son;but dropped. i have only seen the babies 3 times in a year now. this has caused the children to almost forget me and who i am. they have been tramatised through all this. my middle son is the so-called perpetrator, and he has spent thousands of dollars trying to complete the case and get them back but the sate still comes up with reasons not to give the children back, and it’s been a year now. help us please!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by tina — February 5, 2008 @ 4:32 am

My husband has been fighting for his daughter for over 3 years now. The matter never gets any better and never any closer of gaining custody of his daughter. My step-daughter was placed in CYS of Luzerne Co. PA since birth by her natural mother. My husband has been fighting for her ever since. He has complied with EVERYTHING that was ordered and beyond. No criminal background, no abuse or anything bad in his background what so ever. Child is supposed to be adopted out but they are trying to find a reason to terminate. It is like the biggest game here with CYS and the courts. Each time there is a different judge. The judge doesn’t want to terminate his rights and the Master in hearing Wants to terminate his rights. My husband has been through 4 mental health evals the last one he took was through our own. I know he is back to having supervised visitation with his daughter. Visits were supposed to be increased but they were not they were decreased to every other wk for one hour. I have writing on my husband’s behalf to every legislator, governer and nothing is done. I did write to sen. Nancy Schaefer and she is the only one who cares. Very worth writing to her. I am going to write my third letter to the governer. There is some heat going on with this local CPS. We are trying to get the newspaper to do a story on us. We are terribly heartbroken over possibly losing his daughter for good. I am willing to adopt her as my own. I know that the foster parents want to adopt her. Why don’t they understand this father always wanted his daughter regardless of the ex not wanting her. They have done everything and anything to try to destroy us. I will never cease fighting this modern day Gustopos police. I can’t believe that the evil they do I can’t believe that there are so many evil CPS workers in this world. I do know it is about the incentives and big bonuses that are handed out. Thank you for listening.

Comment by Stacey Clayworth — February 5, 2008 @ 7:01 am

My name is Mattia , i was sick and in a comma. i was living in ga at the time. I went to ct to be with my mother and family while i got well. My mothers husband decided that he did’nt want us there. We had to leave. I went to a place that says that they help people with these conditions. Dcf came in and said that because i was working and looked good and the children as well that they would help me. They said that they would give me within three days a emergency section 8 , emergency housing or that they would pay my security deposit. well make a long story short, it never happened. when i went to move into a house. I went to give the landlords information to dcf so that they could pay for the security deposit that they would send the check to the landlord. This is after the worker talked to the landlord . He asked a worker to come in and to watch me and my children. The worker came back and said that they were taking my children because i was homeless. This is very painful so i won’t go much into it. They took my children, told them that i had abandond them there. they turned my family against me. I had an aunt that never liked me from childhood and she reported a bunch of stuff. She did’nt even know of me. Well it’s been 3 years now. Things are getting better. Still i’m suffering because of it all. It just hurts to have to read the lies on the paperwork. I have had good judges that don’t want me to loose my children. That is a good thing. Dcf has been tring to terminate my parental rights. Dcf is also tring to give one of my children up for adoption. My children have been sexually abused. My 4 year old has been placed on psycosexual meds. what ever that is. They said that he acts out sexually. Well he never did it until they had him for a few months. I keep fighting by the grace of god. If it was’nt for jesus giving me peace and strength. I would not have made it this far. I have watched alot of people suffer from Dcf. Keep praying and god will give you all strength. peace and love. your sister in christ . If any of you have a case in CT. will you please contact me.thanks

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 7:56 am

Mrs. clayworth.
I too was very surprised at the evil ways of the DCF system. I never thought that i would have something like this happen to me either. Many have a cold and evil heart. The ones who don’t , eventually will when it is all over

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:00 am

Tina. sorry to hear your story. Stay strong and eventually it will all work out. Don’t give up. That is what they want you to do. Keep praying

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:01 am

Thanks michelle for the encouragement

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:03 am

mistake i mean thanks cheryl for the encouragement to michelle. They will make you want to give up. Just cry out to god and make a daily prayer that the lord help you through each day. they want you to give up. I will keep you and your family in prayer

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:06 am

cheryl. is that bonus for just your state or ingeneral. How can i find out that kind of information on my state.
thanks…mattia

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:09 am

oh my god cheryl. That is so true. I had no mental problem before them. On my report that they keep sending out they continue to say how mentally instable i am. Also i found that i get so ill when i have to read that long list of lies that they send me over and over again about all of the things that i did’nt do. Even though it’s not true , it’s hard to read. They also tried to say that my children did’nt miss me. That my children don’t want me. They really try to mess with your mind. However my children told me that they asked dcf if they could see me and they said no. But in the same instance told me that my children did’nt want me in their lives… it’s amazing. They will lie and try to turn your children against you and you against your children

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:14 am

Mrs. Foster
request another attorney. You will be blessed because it’s obvious that this attorney is’nt doing anything for you anyway. Some attorneys are getting paid anyway. So they can care less. God bless you and i will keep you in my prayers. P.S…don’t give up like cheryl said

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:16 am

Chuck that is just a stronghold. Mentally it can be exhausting. Be strong and stay involved in helping others with what you know about the system and believe me , In turn you will learn some things that will make your case file disappear. It takes time and effort. You are fighting a beast

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:19 am

Marcy . sorry to hear about what happened to you. Did you know that dcf can’t just come into your home and remove your children without a warrant. I’ve learned that Dcf uses the police to assist them in illegal removal of children.. Marcy do you have a court appointed attorney or a paid attorney? keep the faith and stay strong. Keep your children lifted up in prayer too

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:22 am

Mattia-
That bonus is to every case manager in every state, paid by the state, then they receive re-payment into the program from the feds IF they keep the child in the welfare market.

It is known as a business term: “The cost of doing business”.

If you look up Child Protection Services website, go to Adoption Incentive Program, It has the entire federal program (written as law) and signed by Bill Clinton. It took affect in 2003.

Many states do not advertise how much they give as that really is a payroll issue, and it is not unusual for companies do forbid dicussion about payroll.

I got lucky. I was handed their 400 page polies manual on a silver platter on the 1st day I took custody of 2 granddaughters. I read it from cover to cover. IT has just about written our lawsuit for us.

Rule #1 in that book reads just like a doctors oath; “first, do no harm”.

Yeah right… that happened.

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:24 am

Diando. will you please give me information about the ralley in washington. I would like to make arrangements to go there

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:25 am

Donell and Latosha.
what they did was illegal. They can’t enter into your home without a warrant. Dcf uses the police to help them with their illegal removal of children

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:30 am

Rochelle
I’m so sorry to hear that. In what way did they remove them? I don’t understand, how can there be no dependancy lawyers. You have the right to have a lawyer. Did you try legal aid in your area? I’ll be praying for your families safe return. I know it is painful. God bless you and peace be with you

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:34 am

Marcy is correct. They use the police to aid in removal and call it an “emergency”. The law is clear, unless there is a life-threating reason, they must get a warrant. The law provides that if it can wait 2-4 hours before removal, they need a warrant. Emergency on counts if death or sexual abuse is imminant within the next 2 hours it would take to get the warrant.

So why is there a difference in 10 am and after lunch hour? That worker may have a lunch date and waiting would interfer with meeting the boyfriend on time. ( I had this happen at the opening of my case). Believe it?

Where else can you as a citizen, call the police, make a hearsay claim against your neighbor, and talk an officer into coming over to take the neighbor away based only on you claim? No evidence. Can’t be done as a private citizen.

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:34 am

Chris
They should make a documentation of every time that they tried to reach the attorney and the case worker. Document time and dates. Go to the court and file a complaint and request to recieve another attorney. . May god be with them. I’ll keep them in my prayers

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 8:37 am

I am terrified of losing my boyfriend to the system. He has been falsely accused of sexual assault amongst other false charges by a girl that he loves like his own child and would never hurt her or anyone. They have no evidence except her stating whatever it is she told the police. It has been about 4 yrs since he has even seen the family or girl as her mom is really crazy and his long time friend of 25 years (the father) is practically helpless in helping us as once the state has made an arrest they take over the charges - so even if she drops them, they are still going to try him. We are so scared as we don’t have money and cannot afford much. This is one of the best men I’ve ever known in my life, we have made plans to have a family of our own someday, he has helped me raise my son and provide for him and honestly, I KNOW that he would never do such a thing. He is a decent man and has never been accused of anything like this in his life. He has helped raise many kids with his friends - he’s like everyone’s uncle - helps with homework, taught the accuser how to drive (NEVER spent more than 30 mins alone with her) and was one of the only people that showed her any parental guidance - her parents are always fighting and this is a ploy to get attention. Please offer any advice you can that may help my wonderful man. God help us all against this terrible supposed ‘Justice’ system.

Comment by Michelle — February 5, 2008 @ 8:56 am

Donell,

You said that “they came looking for you”. Why? They put the cuffs on. You only? They not only took your kids but they took your wife to the hospital? Is this right? And they called a few times before coming by?

I think I know the direction this is going to take. Been there, done that.

If I caught you right, sounds like someone reported that you were abusing your wife in front of your kids.

If this is what they think (not that you hit her at all) , your wife had every right to refuse the hospital visit. They would have taken her to try to get medical evidence against you. That would be the only thing that would support their claim in court that you are an abuser and removal of the kids. They sent your wife home in 24 hours? You can be with your wife under any circumstances, but they won’t let the kids come home unless she leaves you if they really think you are an abuser.

This brings up the next step they will take. “Divorce your husband and you can have your kids back.” Don’t count on it. They know they need to divide and conquer! Stick it out together. Divorce won’t fix it. You need to Divide and Conquer them!!!

The community team meeting is where you and the wife sit down at a table with CPS personell and Phys. and counselors to discuss how to better you home life. Deal with anger issues. This is where they hope to get you to speak of something they can use against you. It doesn’t even have to be specific. Merely saying ” we fight sometimes” is enough damage. And because of the “out of the mouths of babes” possibility, they may have your kids present. They have a tendency to say things without thinking. That would explain WHY they let you see your kids after this happened. They could not have felt you were much of a threat if they let you visit your kids. You will be emotional at this meeting, and they know it. They are counting on it.

Then at the conclusion of the meeting, they will take whatever your family has said, an implement several costly classes and counseling sessions that they require you to complete. They call it a service plan. They may not cost you any money, but the time you will lose from work with this messy schedule could cost you your job at some point.

Let me know if this is how they go along with their plan. I am pretty sure of it after what I’ve been thru.

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 8:58 am

Michelle
I know that you may love this man and i believe you when you say that he would’nt hurt a fly and that is all wonderful. However right now you have a child i believe that is what i read. Don’t think for one instant that they are not going to plan to remove your child next. See if he has been accused of this, and you allow him to be around your child then they may think that you are neglecting your childs safety and that you are more concerned about the boyfriend than your own child. Right now the thing to do would be to protect your own child. You can still be there for the boyfriend but i tell you the truth. when they take these children, they are abused,molested etc. and it’s just not worth it. I don’t mean to sound insensitive to your love life but your sons safety is most important here. I’ll keep you in prayer…

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:31 am

Thanks Cheryl.
I’m going to look into that. Greatly appreciated

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:32 am

Cheryl
do you know about the ralley in washington that diando spoke of?

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:33 am

Cheryl
about this 2-4 hour warrant thing. what do you advise during this time . What can we do since that is such a short time . Well it’s longer than the immediate removal but it’s not long. What exactly can be done within that time period?

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:34 am

Donell
God bless you . Marriage is a special bond and i gov even wants to take that away. It’s a shame. Yeah, don’t go for the divorce thing, You know when it comes to your children you would do anything. Continue to stay strong in the lord. He will bring you out. It may not happen when you want it to or the way that you want it to but it will happen

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 10:38 am

Writing from Clear Creek County Colorado, app. 35 miles west of Denver.

My sister in law is being abused by the SS here. Our county is small, rural, and largely disadvantaged (poor / uneducated). My sister in law fits into their perfect victim category. She is 22 and single. She left her boyfriend due to emotional abuse and signs of physical abuse waiting to happen. She called the SS for help, which has proved to be the biggest mistake of her life.

She gave birth to a 7 pound baby in mid November 2007. Her baby was taken from the hospital on an emergency D&N filing. The filing came about because my sister in law has Fibromyalgia (a pain disorder) and was taking PRESCRIBED pain medication recommended by her PCP, OB/GYN, and Rheumatologist during her pregnancy.

The SS was aware of this during her pregnancy and filed D&N after birth saying the baby was abused by the medication use. Colorado statute 19-3-101(g) clearly excludes prescription use as a reason to file D&N. The appointed attorney first tried to say that subsection did not apply to my sister in law’s case. Then she said it does apply, but the case is still open even though it is clearly invalid and illegal. The county attorney claims that subsection does not exist which is totally ludacris! Nobody will admit that the law clearly prohibits this action.

My sister in law was going to take the case to trial. 2 weeks prior, the SS held a staff meeting and lied to her and coerced her into taking a no contest plea with promises of getting her baby back. She took the plea. Now things have gone from bad to worse.

The SS has barely been giving any paperwork, and when they do it has rarely been “on time”. When she works on things on the (not yet) approved / ordered, they ridicule her by saying “well, you must have a problem with this or that to have completed this”. Every comment has been derogatory and the visitation therapist constantly makes suggestions and comments about my sister in law’s depression and notes the affect in her reports.

My sister in law became ill with a cold and was told she could not attend her visit. The baby became ill with bronchitis and the SS cancelled 2 visits. They have now sent a court report to everyone except my sister in law stating that she has not complied with aspects of the plan. My sister in law’s therapist told her about it. They blamed her for the SS cancelled visits and for their failure to return her phone calls etc. Now they say there is another staff meeting, but my sister in law cannot get any confirmation of when. They have cancelled the disposition and have not rescheduled it.

It is nearing the first permenancy deadline, which is what I guess the latest report has been prepared for. The SS drafted a permenancy plan 6 days after the petition was filed that made no mention of my sister in law at all, not even visitation rights. The SS told her when she took the plea that they were going to draft a new permenancy plan right away for her and allow her own input for the treatment plan which of course has not happened.

The SS is also trying to act as a medical doctor for my sister in law. They have claimed her pain management is not acceptable to them since it involves narcotic pain relievers. They have questioned her illnesss and are sending her to one of their doctors and they will rely upon that report and not a rheumatologists report from more than a year ago. They have called her a drug addict, but have refused to allow my sister in law to get a report from their own addiction counseler to refute their uneducated opinion that they have included in their court reports. The person making the drug addict statements is the visitation supervisor.

I believe they are being extra nasty now because my sister in law was going to go to a jury trial, and probably would have won since the petition is illegal to begin with and that is the only issue raised (the prescription use).

The GAL demanded more visitation and asked for unsupervised visitation, to which the case worker responded by increasing the supervised visits from 2-2 hour visits to 3-2 hour visits per week.

The baby is in the care of her father and paternal grandmother. The father has been ordered to complete anger management classes since his D&N filing included an incident in which he nearly assaulted my sister in law in the hospital and was made to leave and barred reentry. The father was subjected to serious abuse as a child partly due to their religion (Jehovah Witness). His mother allowed and condoned the abuse. The father works rotating 12 hour shifts at a mine. He works nights, days, weekends and the days off are never the same from week to week. The baby goes to several baby sitters and has become ill several times. They also take the baby out for 100 hours a month on their “door knocking” excursions in the middle of winter.

Nobody in our family has been allowed to see the baby. Not her 90 year old great grandmother, 3 year old sister, nobody. My mother in law got to see her for 15 minutes 3 times until the SS visitation supervisor said the baby seemed nervous and recommended no other contact with the baby.

I am friends with a former therapeutic foster provider ffor this county who told me she had to quit doing placements for the county and moved away because of the SS actions and total disregard for the law.

I want to file complaints and lawsuits, but my sister in law wants to wait to get her baby back. She will never get the baby back, and she has little recourse to get her baby back. I am trying to research if you can file a complaint without having to go through the county first as is required in CO.

If anyone has advice, please don’t hesitate!

Thank you

Comment by Amy M. — February 5, 2008 @ 11:05 am

Mattia-

I am planning on traveling to the rally. I wanted a reason to get away from the heat of AZ. in Aug. Have 5th wheel, will travel… anywhere.
I hope to have most of my family members present, too. We love to RV together.

Also, you can bet that when they go for the warrant, it’s by telephone only. The investigator will call it in to his/her supervisor and then literally camp outside your door.

If you leave with the kids, they’ll follow.

The best thing you could spend the time doing, is call every family member or friend you can think of to find an attorney to protect your rights immediatley. As I said, at the moment of removal, you are very upsert and could spill out anything without thinking.

In each case, they must get the warrant based on evidence. They may not get it for a few days or not at all. It doessend them out for a wild goose chase anyhow; how long is based on the judge they know and if he’s in or on the golf course. You just won’t know until and unless they come back OR go to your kids school, present the warrant and kidnap them from there.

Are you aware that each school now has CPS trained case workers in their counseling dept. to help identify abuse? They will call the police and take your kids on a whim right then if the child says something strange. Some schools have officers on campus that take care of this, too.

That is HOW it happened initially to us. And the cop was in school campus!

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 12:36 pm

Amy,
Under the laws, you HAVE to wait until the case is closed before your can file anything. No matter how it ends, you canot file until then.

Your then file within 120 days at your states’ FEDERAL COURT. You must prove “gross negl.” in the handling of the case or care of the children. If you are sucessful, they will strip CPS of their immunity from prosecution. That clears your way to sue!!!

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 12:39 pm

Thanks Cheryl. That is for lawsuit right? What about complaint against a worker. The state DHCS says to contact county director, and if a resolution cannot be reached that you can then go to the state to file a complaint which the state will investigate, can lead to punishment by their own! Sounds simple, but the county director is well aware of the case and was present in the first court hearing. From what I have understood, a complaint can be filed at any time. Problem being, they all know what is going on in this department. Any complaint filed to them will result in further corruption to not only my sister in law, but probably my own family as well.
Can I file directly to the state? This department is seriously corrupted and everyone is in collusion to apply the laws to fit their own needs. I want to file a complaint ASAP.

The state needs to know that this largely forgotten county is blatantly breaking and ignoring state statute. Colorado has been attempting to reform the SS system over the past few years and it appears as though our county either needs more training to stay current with applicable laws, or is severely mismanaged and arrogant.

Everyone is so scared to do anything if they are in the system. I really want to have a state investigation into the department. LAwsuit would pack in the final punch, but I would love nothing more than to see them all facing state charges. It is disgusting when agencies break laws and each department needs to be held accountable. But people have to stand up. Nobody cares until it happens to them and then it is too late.

My hope would be that if a complaint can be filed against the SS, the state could stop the case or in the least change venue or workers. I would think the case should be closed since the issue is the medications taken as prescribed during pregnancy which is clearly alllowed by law.

In addition to the disregard for the applicable statute, the SS was aware that my sister in law was on medication for 4-5 months before she gave birth. CO health statute requires the SS to provide services to pregnant women whom they feel are at risk, including drug (medication!) counseling etc. to prevent D&N filing at birth. Of course, no attempt was made to provide prenatal services. So there are two laws they have ignored.

Just because they don’t agree with her medical treatment gives them no right to take her baby illegally. That is the main reason I want to file a complaint.

Thanks again and good luck to all in this situation, keep a good paper trail and fight them all the way!

PS - a meeting is being held today to discuss the latest report. Just my sister in law and the SS worker. Scary thought! I will make sure a declaration of fact gets sent and filed to document the abuse she suffers from them!!!

Comment by Amy M. — February 5, 2008 @ 2:13 pm

DHCS is a division of some other human services office. Here, CPS is a division of DES, Dept of Economic Security; the unemployment, food stamp state office. DHCS should be within this same division in your area. Whatever dept. you make food stamp applications and unemployment applications to.

You can file a formal complaint with them. You can request a hearing with them to mediate the services you feel they are lacking in. Some complaint forms are available online with your local DES office.

However, govn’t wrote the laws and they were smart enough to protect govn’t at all cost. These complaint forms are general in nature and do not allow the “name dropping” we’d all like to use.

By requesting a mediation, you can keep it more informal and speak your peace…even name drop!

In regards to the rest; will they start going after you on otherkids. probably. But I’ll say this. I’ve learned that if I back off, the walk all over me. When I get tough right back at them, they are a lot more careful; they walk on eggshells around me. The are very careful not to arouse any more suspicion within me as long as I keep just as much pressure on them as they do me.

Being tough, if only on the outside, does help the case along smoother. They don’t nned to know that you cry when their not looking. You just can’t let on how really depressed you are.

We are ALL to be reunited very soon. The whole family. Then we all stick close to one another and relocate. The Judge has admonished CPS for it’s poor case management and petty petitions in trying to get even with us.

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

One more thing.

You can file diect with the state, but you will not be following “protocol”. It would be swept under the rug in a hearbeat. Then they may apply even more pressure to you knowing what afight you are capable of.

Skipping porotcol can be a deadend and just prolong things at a frustrating emotional level.

Stick to protocol.
1. DHCS supervisor
2. County Director
3. State DES/DHCS

Comment by Cheryl — February 5, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

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Comment by h — February 5, 2008 @ 3:12 pm

Stacey Clayworth:

Group helping folks in PA challenge CYS illegalities:

http://www.headsheldhigh.org

Their phone # is on the Website. They are in Luzerne Co,. or Monroe Co, I believe.

Please write back and let us know if you got this message and what transpired.

Comment by Fern — February 5, 2008 @ 4:01 pm

To Tina:
Are you in Alaska?

There are advocates who help folks in 11 states. Alaska ( OCS) is one of those states.

Look at http://www.profane-justice.org

Under Advocates. There is a page which has listings for those women in 11 states who can help and advise folk.

The Website was started by Suzanne Shell, in Colorado, who has been battling DHS for close to 19 years.
Please write back here if you read and received this message and what went on with this.

Best.

Comment by Fern — February 5, 2008 @ 4:05 pm

Cheryl
thanks for the info. what is the date for the ralley?.

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

Amy
I will keep your sister inlaw in prayer. I’m sorry to hear what has happened. that is so terrible. Stay strong and please continue to be there for her , she will need all of the help and support that she can get at this time. Let her know, not to say much to people about being depressed. you would be surprised at the people that can open their mouths and mess things up for her. Not everyone is truly concerned and wants the best for her. I had an aunt lie on me. Some people are jelous and mean. stay strong

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 5, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

Diando,

The Jan. 08 postings are deleted now. Was that Aug 5th for the rally????

I don’t have the paper with me. Left it home with my other paper collection on this subject.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 7:59 am

The DC rally is August 15,16 and 17, 2008.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 11:24 am

The story aired but did not tell of all the medical complications that Rachel (my granddaughter) had after only 7 weeks in Foster Care.

Rachel still suffers from Asthma and is on 3 meds daily. When I got Rachel (my granddaughter) back she had, which doesn’t show in the report: Asthma, an Ear infection, Thrush of the mouth, Blisters in her mouth (a virus), Conjunctivitis, Colic and the rash on her bottom. Not only did CPS not get her any medical attention but also they denied it… I had to sign a paper that I would not discuss her medical condition with anyone other than her babysitter and the dr when she was returned to me. In court they lied to the Judge but got caught.

CPS also hid Rachel from her mother (my daughter). We were able to get an Investigative Reporter from Channel 13 to call CPS so my daughter could see her. This is when we discovered and video taped, Rachel’s medical needs that were being neglected. The Foster Parents then dropped off Rachel at the 24 Hour CPS facility on Hillcroft. The facility on Hillcroft did not seek medical attention for her either even after we requested that she be taken to the dr or emergency room…

Also, the week prior to the visit, when my daughter saw Rachel she was severely sunburned. It was also reported to us that she had a heart murmur and misshapen head, but had never been to a doctor. This diagnosis came from an unlicensed person from ECI, which is paid, by CPS to diagnose and monitor children’s growth and development.

During each visit with my daughter Rachel threw up continually. When Rachel was returned to me in the diaper bag was: A 1/2 empty Children’s Cough Medicine (she was only 5 months old), empty tube of Baby Gas X, an empty tube of some type of ointment and Orajel and soiled clothes.

We had a total of 6 caseworkers and 6 Supervisors. I ran a license check on each and everyone of them and not one of the caseworkers and only (1) of the Supervisors is licensed. The licensed Supervisor is the one in the video which denied my granddaughter medical attention.

Below is the link to the report from Channel 26.

htttp://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1ADC7192427E7323206D61359495109E?contentId=5687255&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Comment by Diando — February 6, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

I am new at this site and do not know where to search for the Drug Testing Policy authorizing CPS to perform drug testing on suspecting parents.

Can anyone help or direct me to the Drug testing policy for Sacramento County?

Thanks.

John

Comment by John — February 6, 2008 @ 12:29 pm

I am a proud student working towards my degree to be a Child Abuse Investigator. I guess all of you believe it’s alright for a child to be raped when she is five by her father, or a boy’s hands be burned on a stove by his mother for accidently spilling his milk. It is because of people like you, if you can even label yourself as people, I vow with my complete heart to take children away from monsters like you for many years to come. And I also will be fighting to make laws where child abusers will get much harsher punishments for what they do to children. An eye for an eye seems like a good idea to me. I just pray you all realize how sick you really are for advocating child abuse.

Comment by Crystal — February 6, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

JOhn,

the drug testing policy is ONLY in their Procedures bokk. Under Law they cannot force you to test. However, they will present it as an automatic failure to a judge if you refuse.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

Crystal-

I guess you don’t get this site very well. Really read some of the stories!
We are primarily saying that OUR children were not taken for good cause. There was no abuse. Merely low-income.

Really look into it and you’ll discover that CPS has NOT taken those children away from the mother who burns her kids hands…but has taken kids away from others for much less without abuse.

That is who we are. Those loving parents that may not make $50K per year but still manage to provide everything our children need and a few things they want.

We too wish CPS would concentrate on removing the right kids from the wrong parents.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:09 pm

CPS in las vegas is worthless. My child is screaming every week to go to her fathers home. I’m screaming to cps to hear my child cries. CPS actually said that my child’s injuries weren’t at there standard! WHAT then returned her to her father for her only to get abused again. Then her father said “well.. her mother must have told her to say those things about me” and they actually dropped the charges and i’m back were i started a screaming sad child how much more does she have to endure! Does any one have any advice?

Comment by April — February 6, 2008 @ 1:14 pm

Crystal should make a great CPS investigator. She already has the drive and mindset that ALL OF US ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, that’s right…nobody in my case was ever charged with a crime!!! Nothing at all!!

Please read the constitution.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 1:28 pm

Crystal,

Wake up and watch the news!

CPS isn’t taking the babies in need or in danger. They don’t want those babies/children..

Go to the CPS report in Texas… It clearly states in the report not to take black children. To take white and spanish children.

It states “Blacks will not do the classes and do not care about their children and that black chidren are not easily adopted out and linger in the system”

“White people will do the classes ordered”

“Spanish people have numerous children and will do the classes and go to any lengths to get their children back”

You see CPS is audited every 3 years. They have to do a report and submit it to the Government. They must adopt out xxx number of children and have taken xxx amount of children in order to get their Government Funding.

The State of Texas received the largest sum of money ever and bigger than any other state ever in 2007.

CPS is nothing more than a Government Funded Child Stealing Ring!

I was told by a caseworker that “she needed my white baby”

They had her sold. Even before they took her!!!!

Comment by Diando — February 6, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

Same here, Diando. Without thinking first, the 3rd case worker said “I really just need the 9 and 11 yr old, not the teenagers. but I guess I’ll have to take the good with the bad”. She said those words so matter-of-factly.

How dare she talk about my grandchildren that way. Good/bad? What was she thinking!

Why? Because at age 9 and over in my state, the Feds pay my state $525,000 per kid over 9 if adopted to a non-relative! And she had one all lined up she made clear. These people KNEW my grandkids and wanted them and their cash flow each month that generously came with them.

Our AZ Audit of 2005 reads the same as TX generally. It did however note several un-warranted intrusions on families that “DID NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR REMOVAL” and required improvement in this area by investigators. It found un-specified amounts of welfare funds (to be independatley audited) squandered on un-needed services.

To be honest, you can’t change Cyrstals mind about us. Her mindset is already grim on people. Note the choice of words. They are a carelessly thought out as the case workers who said those awful things to us.

If she really wants to make a difference, she needs to start within by taking some of those classes CPS forces upon us without cause.

Then she wouldn’t be so calous.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Crystal
Live a little and be in the system and you will see for yourself. I’m too exhausted to even explain. all that i can say is that No weapon formed against me shall prosper and every toungue that rises up against me shall be condemned. My children are loved and blessed to have a mom like me. I am a great person. I’m not tring to convince you but you should watch how you label. It could be you one day who just gets sick and dcf lies on. One never knows what life will bring their way. I sure never expected this. I thought only child abusers had their children removed from them. Boy was i wrong. so keep running your mouth and maybe your daughters chldren or their children will follow the same fate. Life has a way of teaching us lessons that we refuse to study up on. Then you will hear yourself sobbing and saying.. oh yeah. that is how they felt. I’m telling you. what goes around comes back around and sometimes it does’nt happen to you persay but to someone that you love. that to me is all the more sorrowful because you think, they did’nt even do anything. It was me and my foolishness. God bless and remember what energy you place out there is waiting for the return. to your loved one

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 2:51 pm

Cheryl
you know what, it’s been going on over 3 years and i’m still fighting to bring my children home. the judge does’nt want to terminate my rights but you know what . Everytime i go to court the dcf attorney and workers look upset like why does she still keep comming. and why is she here. I am african american and i think that they did not expect for me to travel back and forth and keep documented records etc. it’s amazing. Also i have seen alot of people give up. I knew a few people who got on drugs to deal with the pain. I watched their whole life change. The woman has been in prison twice. The sad thing is that she did everything that they told her to do. she got the beds i mean she went to couneling. she had no problem but when dcf got finished with her, she had a ton of problems which she left the church and went back into the world. Now she’s in jail. I’ve seen some sad lie stories told in the african american community. I don’t know about texas but everywhere else they take african american children and place them. there are alot of african american foster homes. They placed two of my children in a caucasian home and they were abused. i grew up in that town. there were only 4 african american families in the whole suburb. i knew it to be a prejudice place . i told dcf this and still they left them there and my children were abused sexually. then they still sent them back and after some months past my worker said that something was wrong and that he won’t be sending any other children to that family. they now placed my son on something they called psycosexual drugs. my dr said there is no such drug. on my paper work that is how they labeled the drug. I never knew that he was on any drug. He is a great kid and he was labeled and not able to go to some schools and be around other children due to his behavior. The behavior came from dcf neglect

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

Cheryl
It’s obvious that crystal did’nt come here to find out the truth but only to condemn families. We have put up with enough abuse from dcf. she is’nt even a worker yet and she’s already on the battlefield of hell. We do such a good job by informing one another. what crystal did and said was a form of mental abuse. Some of us are already weak and don’t need negative talk. she is a thron ment to throw up off of the topics and to make us miss our blessing, which is each other. She is sent by satan alone to get us confused and wrapped up in argueing with her . she wants no truth, only confusion. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. It’s sad. but i guess that life will have to teach her. she may need a drug test herself so that she can stay up all night studing how to be evil. never know mrs. crystal what skeletons you have in your closet. what , did someone rape you or abuse you and now instead of you being a resource , you have decided to be a bullet to innocent people… well i can’t help but to tell you. With an attitude like that. you are definitly on the wrong track and i will give you not one more inch of my precious time… I have children to bring home

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 3:08 pm

Mattia-

As long as you continue to show up in court, document things, go to every meeting, they will be upset with you. You pose a threat and they know it. The Judge knows it and won’t terminate your rights. He must not see their point in termination.

This DOES make a difference. In my state, they have to either return the children, assign a relative as guardian or terminate parents rights within 24 months. AT 24 months, if the case is not closed, the judge must return the kids and close the case as is.

It sounds as though your state does not have time limits in place.

Not to sound mean here…but being of color has nothing to do with it…really. I drove 189 miles one way every court date and meeting of any kind since Nov. 06. It was just as hard on me as you. And I really don’t think that a foster parent abuser cares if the child is black or white or red. They only see sexual preference. If it was going to happen it could have happen anywhere.
I’m not at all predijust, can you tell?

I’d be willing to guess that teh drugs they have him on are similar to those used in Mental Hospitals to control sexual urges in male inmates. Salt peter, if you will. They just stop erections and the like.

But I disagree with putting a young child on such a drug. It would not surprise me that they could do this to a teen, however.

You just have to keep going and keep the faith.

What goes around does come around. I’ve seen it personally and benefit from it every day.

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

We should just all ignore Crystal. She’s obviously here for a research paper for school.

Don’t we all have enough to pay better attention to?

Comment by Cheryl — February 6, 2008 @ 3:42 pm

John
It does’nt look good to refuse a drug test. you should watch closely your specimen. I would not trust them with it. Request to use a dr office that they are’nt paying for. Use you own doctor.. god be with you. All will be fine. I’m praying for your family

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 6, 2008 @ 6:32 pm

To all of you new people to the site (excluding Crystalmeth) please listen to Cheryl and Diando. They know the TRUTH! My kids were taken for NO reason, NO ABUSE EVER HAPPEND. Just flimsy hearsay about neglect that would never hold up in a court of law. We are poor (even poorer now that we have to pay $900 a month child support. This system must be abolished! William Wagoner of onsecondthought.tv just did an interview with Ron Paul & he is the ONLY candidate running who says he will eliminate Title IV funding (the right for government to steal children from families). The interview is on daddyblogger.com!

Comment by Susan — February 6, 2008 @ 11:14 pm

susan
How long did they keep the case open. Is the case closed forever now? Stay strong and god bless

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 6:52 am

If they give you a drug test or a hair folicle test, immediately, and I mean immediately go and have an independent test done.

They are falsifying drug tests here in Texas.

People that never even gave urine in the hospital are being told that they tested positive for cocaine.

I also know of another person that this has happened to. She was given the hair folicle test at the courthouse and they took her child stating that she tested positive for cocaine.

She had the test redone on her own and came out negative..

CPS kept trying to get my daughter to take a drug test at a different location than where she was taking them which was an 1 1/2 hr away from her home..

I fully believe that this was in a last ditch effort to set her up.. We fought the drug testing since she was doing it 2 times a week at a place close to her home…

God Bless everyone here!!!!

I’m sorry to hear your case is closed Susan… See ya at the Rally?

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:25 am

Susan,

Do you plan to reopen it? I don’t know how but am willing to help you in any way I can!!

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:50 am

They had my daughter and son-in-law taking 5 drug tests per week!!! EVen though they had never tested positive to begin with.

There was some knowledge that the area they were renting their home in, had a problme with drug sales, etc.

So CPS insisted that they had to exonerate themselves simply becuase they lived near this neighborhood.

I supose they were also hoping that at some point, they would be so frustrated with the classes, loss of work, child support etc., that they WOULD turn to drugs or alcohol. Though they sure thought about a drink once in a while to help with the pain of it all.

That never happened. We stayed together as a family and stayed strong. We prayed every day for strength. I called every day a 4:30 to be sure they were still holding storng.

Family presence has a lot to do with tthe sucess of getting through all of this garbage.

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:05 am

Mattia,

They used to take black children but as per their last report they have too many of them now and they linger in the system.

It also clearly states that the parents will not do the classes etc….

The State makes alot of money from the classes etc..

It is really sad to watch the news on Channel 11 here. There is a reporter that reports alot on black children that are in the system but given back or never even taken and go home and dye.. He seems to think it is a racial issue, but it isn’t, it is a MONEY issue.

There was a report on the news awhile back where the police had called CPS out to a drug house (not black people) 3 seperate occasions and CPS never showed.

The corruption is just that, corruption… CPS does not want any children in which they don’t think the parents will participate and do the classes and see the shrinks.

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:09 am

Cheryl,

Your right about the family presence. It was brought up several times that my husband and I were there for every court date.

They will try to divide and conquer!!

The 1st thing they told my son-in-law was to leave my daughter and he could get the baby (this is what the Judge told him).

They got married instead! Do not seperate as that is what they want and the way that they are able to tear you down and apart quicker!

And CPS calls this Family Reunification!!!!!!!!!!! pffffst

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:13 am

CPS only makes money IF the parents comply and IF the kids don’t rot in the system.

Kids that stay in the system that cannot be easily adopted out, do not qualify for Fed. re-imbursement to the state.

The state counts on that money to pay for kids medical care, food, clothing, etc.

If they can’t get the Fed. money, these kids are a drain on the states resources and economy.

It really is ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$$$$.

Hate to put it so bluntly, but that’s it in a nutshell.

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:21 am

It’s true!!!!!!!!!!

$$$$$ that’s all this is about….

They could care less about the welfare of your children!

They almost killed my Granddaughter and didn’t even blink an eye!

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:30 am

CPS cut off funding for my daughters drug testing in November.

My son-in-law only took the ones in court..

Right before court I had them go do a hair folicle test.

The case worker called 2 days before court telling them that they havn’t done any drug testing lately..

My son-in-law told her “yes we did one just the other day”

The caseworker got irate… She then called my daughter and told her that it wouldn’t be valid and doesn’t count…

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:33 am

CPS and the Judge said the same thing to my son-in-law. The said if he divorced my daughter, he could have all 4 kids back.

They really had no intention of giving back those kids. He is a 10 year reformed alcoholic! They brought up his past many times.

They may have given them back then but they’d be watching and waiting for the time to strike and remove those kids from him again. I’d have been surprised if he had the kids a month! We all know it.

Instead, they renewed their vows 1/2 way into this!

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 8:34 am

I just want to reinterate the importance of following up every single phone call and meeting with a fax and fax confirmation, an e-mail or certified letter.

If you do not agree with what the Caseworker is telling you to do, then use your best judgement…

But always follow up with a letter, fax or email…

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 8:48 am

Crystal,

What you said “I guess all of you believe it’s alright for a child to be raped when she is five by her father, or a boy’s hands be burned on a stove by his mother for accidently spilling his milk”.

This is a text book phrase…. I guess they havn’t come up with any new and real crimes against children yet!

Look around you… there is abuse everywhere. Children dying and being killed everyday…

A baby put in a microwave, a babies head being stomped in, a baby being brutally murdered and shoved in a plastic box in a storage shed for a month and then dumped in Galveston, TX…

All three of these cases (in the past 3 months) the parents had mental problems…

Where was CPS? They are spending all of their time on us.. The loving parents and grandparents and ignoring the real problems!!

Why? For the money!

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 11:00 am

My mother & her controlling ‘partner’ have permanent custody of our 3 kids. My mother said she doesn’t want to raise them forever but I can’t believe anything anymore. She can’t even speak to me w/o her ‘partner’ being in the same room or listening in the background during phone conversations. This is CONTROL no matter what kind of relationship. Control is a BAD thing! I have contacted a law firm in Plano, TX who is very expensive, but is willing to branch out to other states. I may have to grovel to my dad in Dallas & to my husband’s brother who are both very well off. DHS even made me undergo drug testing while I’ve NEVER had substance abuse issues! That was so HUMILIATING. They said I had a ‘blank expression’. What the F^&K do they want me to look like after snatching my kids & suffering all of their abuse? I’m way worse off now than ever.

Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:02 am

Oh yea, I forgot to mention, that when my mom first got custody, she changed my son’s dr. who had been his doc since birth & also change his child care. He was going to SPIN which was free, into a daycare center that costs big buck$. weird huh?

Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:06 am

Susan,

No, it isn’t really weird that they changed those things.

In a free daycare, if it is paid for by the State then it is monitored…

If she were to make a mistake the children would be snatched up by CPS… the case reopened and you possibly get your kids back. Although, there could be another twist and they be put into Foster Care.

As far as the blank expression? That’s because they are heartless… They do not know what it is to love or be loved…

Best of luck with the new attorney.

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 11:16 am

Thanks, I also just emailed another law firm in Arlington (a suburb of Dallas) that only charges a $75 consultation fee instead of Stuckle’s 5 grand which we can NEVER afford. I’m hoping for my husband, kids, & I to go to Dallas in March on Spring Break, but we have to get permission from my mother (hopefully without Pat present!) I hope my dad helps us since he don’t agree with all this bs anyways!

Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 11:20 am

Susan-

It sounds like before your mom got the kids, you two had a fair relationship. Is that right?

So bare with your mom. It could be she and the partner (rather you like him or not) are looking out for your best interest. It is normal to remove the kids from patterns CPS already knows about such as child care and doctors.

Without new permissions drawn up, CPS cannot just walk in to the new Dr. and demand anything, nor the child care center. It proctects your kids from further abuse in the system.

I found the need to do the same and my daughter and I have a fantastic releationship! We are even closer now than ever! She learned to un-equivicably trust me to do what was best for getting the kids home to her ultimately.

But I took the time to explain to her that we would do as we saw fit to protect the kids from CPS grips and preserve OUR right to raise them in lieu of her and her husband if it came to pass.

You have to understand (I can see it in your writings), you are extremely upset and emotional; as you should be. Your mother knows that, too. Anything you say or do will be used against you be CPS. Your mom can best judge your state of mind in phone calls and help to keep you away from trouble that day; before CPS finds out and uses it. Her partner is her witness that your and she did nothing wrong. If he sees the talk getting of course, he may correct it; yes that comes of controling. But it is for good reason. He is looking out for everyone’s interest.

If we had violated anything CPS was demanding of us, we could have disqualified ourselves as future fosters’ to our own family. Not knowing what the future would bring, we played it safe.

In the long run, it worked out AND we got the bonus that we had allowed CPS workers enough rope to hang themselves.

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

Cheryl,

I know of Susans case. It is a bit different. Howver, you did bring up a very good point..

As you did with your daughter I had to do the same with mine. She was very angry at me for having her baby..

We did have several arguments.. I had to reinterate to her time and time again that it was me or Foster Care, which do you choose?

And that the ultimate goal was for her and her husband to get her back.. I did not want to raise her for I have raised my children and believe that she should be raised by her God Given Parents..

Also, how did you go about finding your attorney?

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

Diando-

I was just in the right place at the right time.

After court, the CPS case worker said “prove that the foster parents are drug users etc.” So I did.

I asked a secrectary for that judge if he had one her used regularly. I called him. Hired him.

The deeper he got into it, the more he smelled a lawsuit. he knew the attorney and confronted him.

We didn’t even know about it until days later when the PI called to report to me. Then he said, “oh by the way; you have an attorney if you want him”.

I screamed “hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!”

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 1:39 pm

My name is Jesse and my daughter and I have been mistreated by DCS of Campbell County Tennessee. (Melia Henegar was the social worker’s name).
We have been fighting in court now for two years. One year of that was fighting against DCS.
My daughter lives with her mother and I in a split custody arrangement. Her mother has a girlfriend that lives there with them. One evening when I picked up my daughter, she had bruises on both arms in the form of hand prints. I excused the matter because I thought that it came from playing with other kids. A day later my daughter told me her mother’s girlfriend had hurt her arm and had shaken her. We mesured the fingerprints and assumed that the girlfriend caused the bruising. We called DCS (of Anderson County, talked to Don Orange) and was told that they would do nothing about it.
A few days later, my daughter told her great grandmother (this is who she stays with when I am at work) that her mother and her mother’s girlfriend had touched her and hurt her, when asked where they hurt her she pointed to her privates. DCS of Campbell County was called (where my daughter’s mother lives) and the next thing I know is I’m getting a call from them saying I need to bring my daughter to them for an appointment.
Melia Henegar then talked to us and to my daughter, later saying that my daughter told her the same story. She told me to take her to the doctor (but didn’t say where) I found out she needed to go to Children’s Hospital. Once we arrived there, I gave them the paperwork from DCS and they examined my daughter. They said my daughter had injuries consistant with sexual abuse, and neglect.
In the meantime DCS had already allowed my daughter contact with her mother and the girlfriend. We ended up in court were supervised visitation was set up but instead of a DCS person supervising, they got my daughter’s mother’s mom to do the supervision. DCS was instructed by Children’s Hospital to have my daughter examined be a specialist ASAP. Melia Henegar would not answer her phone when Children’s Hospital called, so I ended up taking the paperwork to her the following Monday (January 8th 2007) where I was told they would have my daughter examined in a week. In the meantime, my daughter was still being allowed by DCS to have contact with her mother and the girlfriend. An interview with another social worker at Reaches was done a week later and at this point my daughter was saying nothing had happened. I told Reaches that Melia Henegar from DCS had allowed my daughter to be around her mother and the girlfriend and that it was funny all of a sudden “nothng happened”. They didn’t have my daughter examined until a month later where the examiner said that there was no evidence of abuse. (because she didn’t get to examine my daughter right after the fact.
DCS dropped the case and my daughter was sent back to her mothers house.
I then suit, got me an affidavitt from the hospital and we ended up in court again. I had also contacted the state about Melia Henegar and her misshandling of my daughter’s case.
Melia never bothered to talk to the doctor, or even get the medical records from Children’s Hospital. Melia lied on the stand (the judge didn’t do anything about it>?) and said she had a copy of the records and had talked to the doctor and she had not. When we presented the report Melia named a doctor that she had talked to and said it was the doctor that examined my daughter. The person she named was a nurse. The judge pointed this out to her, and asked her several times to correct her story. The judge ordered that she re-envestigate.

A few days later I get a message on my cell phone from Melia saying I need to come sign some papers to grant my daughter’s mother her supervised vistitation. I left work and went to DCS. Melia with a grin on her face then tells me she is going to take my daughter away from me! She put my daughter in her mother’s mom’s care and in her mother’s bet friend’s care and would not set me up any visitation! My lawyer instantly set up a court date because Melia did this to ge revenge because we made her look stupid in court. (those of you who have used a good lawyer know that instanly means in a few weeks, three to be exact.) I didn’t get to see my daughter for three weeks, and I tried to get the people she was staying with to meet me or to set up something myself because Melia Henegar would not set up visitation. (She set up visitation for my daughter’s mother the next day after the incident)
Anyway we got to court and Melia had brought all these people to testify against me. Well, I brought the affidavitt I takled about earlier. Then some people from the state walked in!
Once we submitted the affidavitt DCS promptly dropped the case even though my lawyer advised them against it.
Melia Henegar discriminated against me for being “the father” as she put it.
So we launched our own investigation, at this point it had already been a year. But we were requested by the judge to see a forensic phsycologist.
That went terrible also because the doctor we saw would not listen to me at all. She even told me that the mother had the advantage because she talked to her first. This lady (Diana McCoy) yelled at me, and would not let me talk. (she would just talk over me.) all this in the first five minutes that she was examining me; Diana had already decided that I was a homophobe, prejiduce and hostile person. (said she was basing it on emails I sent back when me and my wife spit up in 2006!)
I tried to tell her that emails could be edited and that the emails were over a year old. Diana wouldn’t listen, wouldn’t consider the physical evidence we had. She told me later that my daughter said nobody touched her. I tried to tell her that her mother had conditioned her to not say anything (for a year now even) and she said that her mother wouldn’t do that ! The goes on to tell me because of the emails that I would try and get my daughter to say things!
So I did some research and found out that Diana McCoy is too, affiliated with DCS. (on top of that she works for the state)
So now currently, my daughter is back in the home with her mother. Now that the evidence is a year old, the restraining order was dropped against the girlfriend and she is back there too. We go back to court in March. I just want my daughter to be happy and safe.
If anyone has any advice, please let me know. I have a great lawyer, but when you are “just the father” as they put it, it is still hard to get anywhere.
I love my daughter more than anyone else on Earth, and would absolutley die for her. I want her to do good and not be damaged.
I am so tired of being discriminated against because I am her Father!!!!

Comment by Jesse — February 7, 2008 @ 1:52 pm

sorry for the type-os, I was in a hurrry!

Comment by Jesse — February 7, 2008 @ 2:01 pm

Cheryl
The race thing i was referring to was what you were talking about in texas. The way that they won’t take many african americans because it’s harder to place them. That was what i was referring to. No affence was taken. thanks i will keep documenting and following the proper steps. Thanks again

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

Jesse
could’nt you hire a private investigator who could follow them and record stuff that you would not be able to do yourself? I know that it may be expensive but it could help

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:29 pm

Diando
I can see what you mean . I saw alot of people just give up. They can discourgae the heck out of your. I do get to speak with my children every day which i had to fight for for years. they were’nt happy about it. They keep check to see if i always call the children everyday. It’s helped us to stay close, even though we are apart. Thoes telephone conversations are a great help. Thanks diando for the info

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:40 pm

Cheryl
That is rediculious , five drug tests. It seems to me that they were tring to intimidate as well as aggrevate the family. I don’t know how they live with themselves, the ones who are jerks anyway. They definitly try to push you over the edge.They always ask me how am i making it through and i tell them. Prayer. and spending time with god and helping people. They had the nerve to put in my paper work that i pray. I mean come on. Give me a break. You can’t even pray without them accusing you of a religious fanatic. I’m so glad that it did’nt work on your family and that you were able to stay together and strong. They definitly try to play the family against each other

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:45 pm

Susan
I was in a familiar situation. My mother and her husband. He does the exact same thing to me. exact and my mom lets him and stays queit. Still it is best for the kids to be with her rather than in the system. you don’t want that. I wish i could have that choice

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 3:47 pm

Mattia-

Yes they had to report every day before 4:30 for urine samples. Imagine, you are tested the day they take your kids (by hair folicle which tests the last 6 months), test negative and still have to test every day for 15 months. They are still testing 2 days per week even as this case is closing.

It took from Nov 06 to Aug 07 to get them reduced to 3 per week + 1 random.

It was all designed to drive us over the edge and play us against each other. Despite everything, we NEVER fought with each other; not once!

We had our faith. And Yes they wrote in our file that we were interfering in the childrens’ freedom of choice by asking them to attend church and pray, even while in foster care.

Comment by Cheryl — February 7, 2008 @ 3:58 pm

DHS HATES RELIGION! They got very offended when I spoke to the kids about it during stupid supervised visitation. Cheryl, my mother’s partner is a man-wannabe, not an actual male I think there is jealousy involved here like there has been with my mother’s other girlfriends. Here, the foster parents DO NOT attend church with foster kids. This political correctness garbage is nauseating. Jesse, I feel your pain. Lezbian relationships have child abuse as well!

Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 4:27 pm

Diando, about DHS being racist, just made me wonder why we haven’t seen many folks from Louisiana on these anti-cps chat boards? Where were those ‘child-saving heros’ during Katrina? Here in Colorado, DHS are just unlicensed white-trash feminazis!

Comment by Susan — February 7, 2008 @ 4:30 pm

God be with them. Scripture say suffer not the little ones to come unto him. Oh well. We are in a bad time when people can lie and take our children away and be alright with it

Comment by mattia gaunichaux — February 7, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

They only made my daughter do the UA’s once a week. She offered to do it the other times. Sometimes she did up to three a week, funded by the State.

My daughter and son in law took a hair folicle test at the court house the day after CPS took their child and were clean.. But it did not matter!

I believe that they make money from the tests as well, if you go where they tell you to go. Also, as I said before they rig them here as well..

My daughter went through State Funded Agencies rather than a Government (CPS) agency. They never took a class where the caseworker told them they had to go.

It pissed them off royally but they could not refuse the certificates because they were state registered classes, and teachers, counselours!

My daughter and son-in-law did all of the classes and some twice. But, they did them through State Agencies so the CPS didn’t have any control.

You can choose where you take the classes as long as they have the CPS Guidelines.

So, I guess what I’m saying is check around when you are ordered to take a class. You don’t have to go where they say.

They even refused to submit the paperwork etc.. in order to keep my kids from going to the other classes. But, we found ways around it.

We sent lots of letters and faxes to cover our butts..

CPS even told us that the counselors were not cooperating with them and not turning in the paperwork. They finally left a message on my daughters cell phone stating that.

That is one of the times the caseworker and her supervisor hung theirselves.

It pissed the counselor off when he heard it. He had faxed the paperwork for 3 days in a row.

It’s harrassment and nothing more. They were trying to get my daughter to go to one of their agencies to do a drug screening. I’m sure she would have turned up positive had she done it..

They cut off the State Funding so they could say that they hadn’t been tested and prolong the case further.

But, as I said prior I sent them to do a hair test on their own right before court…

It pays to stay one step ahead of them… In court the DA did not do as the Judge had asked. But, I went and got the stuff that the Judge asked for on my own. Our case got closed that day and the DA got yelled at.

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

Jesse my heart really goes out to you and your daughter. Yes CPS HATES fathers and automaticlly if you are a father you are nothing more than a sperm donor and a wallet. That is it. It is the same experience we have going on here for the last 2 years. Even though my boyfriends ex wife is a worthless piece of dirt. She will not take care of the child at all, the childs behavior has rappidly declined to the point where she is hurting herself and is a danger to others, her therapist is talking about puting her in a home for girls, mom is still the best placement for her. Yes it may be a fact that while she was living with us she was doing well and now she is clearly not that doesn’t matter mom’s are better. I don’t know what to tell ya cause we have been fighting this one for sometime now and all the evidence is in our favor yet somehow we still don’t have the child and dad gets 1 whole hour some weeks, usually he doesn’t even get that. He is being forced to just sit there and watch this woman distroy his daughter and there isn’t a damn thing he can do. I suggest googling fathers rights there may be one org around you than may be able to help.

Comment by Debbie — February 7, 2008 @ 6:05 pm

my grandchildren were stolen from my daughter and our family in may of 2004 . that was one of worst days of our lives.my daughter has bi-polar and chooses writeing,deep breathing,and music to help her deal with this disorder. instead of mind altering medications that made her feel worse .these cps workers lied about my daughter and have made many false allegations against my daughter.she is so distraught she loves and misses her babies . we are looking for support in these unbeliveable and unbearable times .

Comment by mary ehrman — February 7, 2008 @ 7:03 pm

Please pray for Michael Rowe, who is a victim of the social service system. His story can be read at the website we have set up for him at; www.corruptionofmichael.com

It would take a book to tell the horrors of the corrupt probate courts and how they use “runners” (APS workers) to recruit innocent disabled persons then force them under state guardianships then court order them to horrid institutions, for profit. The wards of the court (Michael) are denied all rights, even visits from those closest and dearest to them, from family members, and denied even pastoral visits. It is nothing but a dirty racket of using humans for profit, while the corrupt cash in. Please send Mikes web site to other victims of the system. Mike needs all of your prayers. He is dying in there, and nobody will help. It has been since 1998 Mike has been held as a literal hostage, like in a concentration camp. Only worse, there was an end to that suffering but not so for poor Michael Rowe. You may write to me at prayersformichael@yahoo.com
thankyou, Katie Morris (Mikes dear friend and advocate)

Comment by katie morris — February 7, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

Jesse,

I agree with Debbie. CPS hates men… At the second meeting with CPS, the caseworker saw me first.

She told me that my son in law was abusive and violent… I told her no he isn’t.

Well, she proceeded to tell me that the last time him and my daughter were there that they had a screaming match and he was verbally abusing her and that he threw the baby blanket at her and it hit the baby in the face… Yes, a baby blanket.

This never happened! She then proceeded to tell me that she had a witness and that she was going to get my daughter to confess to it..

I told her she was wrong… Didn’t matter.. She then took my daughter in the room and told her that she saw my son in law punch her in the face.

She said no he did not and if he had then why didn’t you call the police then.

This went on for hours. Next thing we knew there were court (CPS) papers in the mail stating that they saw and have founded that my son in law was verbaly, mentally and physically violent.

Of course there is more to it then that.. But, the point is…. He isn’t any of those things.

Hang in there. If you can do as Cheryl stated and hire a private investigator…

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:22 pm

Mary,

Have they terminated your daughters rights?

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

In Texas the caseworkers are black, indian and every now and then they will throw in a token white or token spanish…

At first I thought it was a racial issue. But, later found out that there was much more to it… $$$$$$$$$$…. The almighty dollar..

These people are going to rot in HELL!!!

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:29 pm

I don’t understand how they can look at themselves in the mirror….

They are all EVIL!

Comment by Diando — February 7, 2008 @ 7:29 pm

yes but we have never been given any paper work and she never signed anything thats what was ordered in court

Comment by mary ehrman — February 7, 2008 @ 7:36 pm

we too have a serious issue with dcf , safe children coalation,guardian ad litem here in sarasota county florida we are about to win our fight for our twin granbabies after a year of lies , Although we have made it a crusuade to continue even after we gain custody of our grandbabies. THESE FAMILY WRECKERS MUST BE STOPPED. To all involved in such children cases DO NOT GIVE UP. keep kicking on doors such as we have, sooner or later you will have hit the right one. God Bless All

Comment by Greg & Lisa Williamson — February 7, 2008 @ 8:35 pm

Mattia, Diando—

I just got the papers faxed over for guardianship of the 2 grandaughters. They do not read at all like we agreed to in open court with the judges approval.

Was supposed to be temporary guardianship with the right to return them to their parents and dismiss the order when we, the family, felt it was time to do so.

These say permanent guardianship without the ability to return them to parents unless we re-open the CPS case. Like We would ever consider that an option!!!!!!!!

It also awards money for clothes, medical care, education, etc. I don’t want their money! That would tie us to the state again. And I know at some point they would attach the parents for re-imbursment. I have perfectly good medical, dental and vision thank you very much. And our income is nothing to sneeze at. They will have whatever they need without an issue.

Also the affidavit attached has a questionaire to reply to. Funny, the guardianship papers are in both our names, but the affidavit is only in my name and only asks questions about me having been a conservator in the past. I never told anyone about that. So how did they know that unless they have been snooping where they don’t belong?

How I care for my mother in hospice is none of their business. It has nothing to do with the guardianship;

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