FightCPS Guestbook for September 2007

This is the guestbook for September 2007. You’re welcome to tell us about yourself and why you’re here.

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This is the first time I’ve spoken of this incident in my life to anyone but my husband who is the only one that has stood by me through this nightmare. My family all but called me a liar and everyone began to look down on me. Texas CPS Dept came into my home in August of 2005 and took my children from me because my exhusband called them and told them I was hitting my children. My 2 year old daughter had fallen in the kitchen and bruised her behind and that was reason enough for the government to come and take my life from me. My son and daughter were my life and my abusive exhusband was able to take them after being an absent father for so long. He does not let me have any contact with my children and the state feels this is okay for the kids to grow up without a mommy. I spanked my kids when a spanking was necessary but who hasn’t spanked their kids? My only fault was admitting to them that I did in fact spank them. I was forced to plead guilty to a crime I was not guilty of…never in my life would I dream of hurting a baby, an animal or an elderly person. I’m not that kind of person. I feel it is a true shame that is allowed. I don’t know if me getting my story out will help someone if they need it. I know I wish I had had someone to talk to when I really needed it.

Comment by Melanie — September 2, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

Melanie, I am sorry for your pain. I can say that telling your story not only will help others but someday it will help your children. Although my daughter was finally returned (I refused to sign anything from the start and altho it prolonged the case, it was to our benefit in the end), I know others very much like you. And the great thing is, many have reunited with their kids - (although it’s much later) and are finally able to tell their side. The more people SCREAM their story the more CPS will be held accountable. Keeping people afraid and shamed is what gives them power. SCREAM YOUR STORY - to the newspapers, internet, legislatures, whoever you can. Heck I even wrote the President. I am sure people got sick of hearing about me but after my girl was returned a senator in our state used my case in a senate hearing against CPS. I will pray for you, don’t give up hope. The arm of justice is long, it may take time but have faith.

Comment by Jennifer — September 2, 2007 @ 3:49 pm

I am here because i am a CASA- volunteer worker with foster children.
I want to be sure I do not just get info from social workers. I am a strong parental rights advocate and I see CASA and CPS usually judging parents or thinking CPS isn’t doing enough. I want to be sure I am keeping an open mind and reading your stories, as well as my sis in law’s experiences with CPS- reminds me of how strong the family bond is and how rarely it ever truly deserves to be ripped asunder.

Comment by CASA — September 2, 2007 @ 8:39 pm

Hello everyone. I have been part of this website for over a year. I didn’t start writing comments until my TPR trial started this July. It had a bad ending, I didn’t win. My family has gotten involved, but they are playing the same game they played with me. But, they know what I did wrong, so they won’t do the same. I just want to continue to be here to learn and hopefully lead someone in the right direction with all the things I know now. If you want more details, you can read my blog on myspace. I update it frequently.

Comment by Sabena — September 3, 2007 @ 2:44 am

I am here for emotional support. I am glad this site is here. At this time I am to sad to write my story. But just want to say thanks for just having a site like this to come to. I dont feel all alone anymore.

Comment by Wendy — September 3, 2007 @ 6:55 am

Wendy you will write it when you are ready. Just remain strong and you aren’t alone. You can mail me on MySpace or my email address if you want to talk to someone. I know how you feel.

Comment by Sabena — September 3, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

September 3, 2007

My way of handling the wrongful acts and negligence of government agency(s): was to prepare Discovery for the California Attorney General; however, it is necessary prior to presenting concerns to communicate with all appropriate agency supervisors, district attorney, grand jury, etc..once you have exhausted all local efforts, it is wise to voice your concerns to the CA Attorney General Public Inquiry Unit. My Discovery: PIU #120559. I have continued to document concerns, chronology of events, and violations of laws: for example, Government Code Section 820.21, U.S. and State Constitutional violations, etc…I have also found very compelling laws in support of parents/children whose rights have been violated. It is nice to know that people are working together to make a difference. I believe the most compelling difference, will be a class action law suit, of cumulative cases presented to the Supreme court(s). If you know anyone who is going through this or has gone through this, I recommend they keep a chronology of events of everything and everyone they communicate with. Furthermore, if they are at the mercy of the court appointed lawyers, there is an excellent case on behalf of citizen’s rights, Barner v. Leeds, that establishes that people who are awarded a court appointed attorney are entitled to the same duty of care as is they are a private clients.

Great idea, to have this website.

Comment by Shelly — September 3, 2007 @ 12:27 pm

One last thing I forgot to add, it is a matter of interpretation in regards to the statute of limitations when filing to recover civil damages for tort damages…I have researched this and I believe this can easily be challenged opening up the statute of limitations. Especially when families are being torn apart, and brutally abused psychologically and physically by the Child Welfare Services, and other agency(s).

Comment by Shelly — September 3, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

Well, I’d like to say I’m here because I’m running for president.

Of course, I’m here because I am a mother with 4 children. My oldest daughter is in the custody of CWS. She was removed from a psychiatric ward after she made a lie up. It was a mean lie meant to hurt anyone involved in her hospitalization.

She has a mental illness that is not clearly defined. She was suppossed to be in the hospital for 21 days, and was removed after 11. That was back in December 2006. She is currently in a group home because she blew out of 8 foster homes and had law enforcement called 3 times.

The sheriff’s department is not pursuing the accusations and the only evidence in the case was my daughter’s word (which was obtained illegally while she was not on meds). My daughter is 9. In this case I have been accused of Munchousen by Proxy by the absentee x. My 8 year old suffers from mild epilepsy, my 9 year old has her problems, so I MUST say things for attention.

My other 3 children still reside with me and because the 2 youngest of my 4 children are members of the local tribe, my other children could not be questioned without an ICWA officer present. My 8 year old son did not give them any information they could use against me and even told them they were wrong.

My x is in the Army and hadn’t seen his two children (my 8 and 9 year old) in over 3 years, until he was contacted in Korea by CWS. Even with all this, he still hasn’t seen our son since he was 3. They looked to place our daughter with him, even though she didn’t want him. It was all decided by CWS that she would go to him. They toured his home and the school. Then they ordered me to a psych eval to prove he was more fit than I was. They have yet to do a home inspection on me

I was even told by CWS that this was becoming more of a custody battle than anything else and I should prepare my daughter for her relocation. Apparently, the decision was made that 4 children is too much of a burden to parent well.

On August 9, 2007 the Army notified me that I was in danger because he had gone AWOL and made threats toward me and our son who is with me. He had been given my physical location by CWS. Fortunately, they apprehended him before he hurt us. He is now getting mental help from the Army and confined to base.

At this point I don’t think anyone even remembers how we got to this point but me. My daughter has again been diagnosed with issues requiring medication while in CWS’s custody. She has been placed in a new school and the group home she lives in is 2 hours from her family. She is loosing her identity more everyday.

She told me a week ago that she doesn’t ask anyone why anymore, they just get angry at her. All the advocates assigned to her case seem to have some motive other than my daughter’s well being. My family and I have been going through survivor’s syndrome since she was removed from the hospital.

My younger children (now age 3 and 4) have seperation anxiety and my 8 year old is in counselling because of this. I thank God every day that they couldn’t take my other 3 children and it breaks my heart to have my daughter so far away from me. CWS claims they are helping us. The wounds just keep getting bigger.

So this is why I wish I were running for president. I’m not old enough in 2008, but perhaps by 2012. Maybe my families suffering could make a difference.

Comment by Char — September 3, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

My husband and I have been falsely accused by my sister and CPS came to our door on friday. The allegations were really so outlandish that the worker so far seems to be on our side. Firstly, we were accused of being homeless and that neither one of had worked in years. (I don’t understand how we can be accused of homelssness and still have a social worker show up at our door, but it happened. How would she even know where to look?) So we let her in and preceeded to bring out check stubs and the like to proove that were indeed employed and the house (in a rather nice neighborhood, I might add) that she was sitting in was ours. She took pictures of our house, our refrigerator and my daughter’s room. There were no allegations of abuse of any kind but the worker still went to my daughter’s school and questioned her. There were also allegations that my husband and I sat around and did drugs all the time. The social worker saw no evidence of this but said we both needed to submit to drug tests. I am quite sure we will pass as neither of us does any kind of drugs or even alcohal. At first, I believed the social worker when she said this would be an open and shut case but after reading all these posts I’m really getting pretty scared. Is there such a thing as an open and shut case? They didn’t take my daughter on Friday, but does that mean they’re just going to try to take her at a later date? I’m so afraid–these allegations are so totally false, but I’ve read that doesn’t really matter. I know now I shouldn’t have let her in but I live in a nice clean home and I have nothing to hide. Was it ok for us to submit to this drug test even though I know there’s no possible way we can fail? Since the claims are unfounded and clearly not made “in good faith” does that mean I have some recourse? I was online all weekend before I finally found your wonderful site. I have joined but my username is not yet active. I will post in the message board as soon as it is.

Comment by Laurie — September 3, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

ihave raised 6 grandchildren 1 for 7 years he is now 13 his brother 3 years i have haqd him 2 years now then came along 4 other grandchildren from other daughter a 16 yr. old btothers 11 and 3 then i got the new baby . the plan was for me to keep baby till cps did back ground check on my x- sister-in-law which cps did not follow through with 4 weeks ago my 3 month old grand son died of sids at childrens hospital within hours of his death cps came to my home took all my grandkids without warning or reason other than to say i need to grieve, soon enough i was told i was being investigated for my grandsons death cps went to daycare center and stole both 3 yr. olds i havent been allowed to see or speak to any of them since the funeral which 1 3yr. old was not there cps said they would stay together 2 brothers 13 and 3 are other boys 16 and 11 are together their 3 yr. old brother has been seperated. cps says none of the family can see him because he is wetting his pants which he never done before dear god we are in such pain we cannot find a lawyer to help us were not rich people not to mention no lawyer will fight cps cps does not return our phone calls and are telling the children thet will never see their grandma again we been told we have no grandparents rights god help us god hear our prayers

Comment by SHERRY — September 3, 2007 @ 9:20 pm

on july 17, 2007 my whole life was taken from me.cps came and took my daughter from me . they said that there were reports of my neibors hearing my daughter screaming and crying for long periods of time and also my daughters father told the same neibors that he didn’t know where i was and i just left my daughter with him and now he couldn’t work.i tried to explain to the cps lady that my daughter was 2 yrs old almost 3 yrs old, and that she has a very hot temper,and she will through a tantrim if she dousn’t get what she wan’ts untill she gets what she wants.and since me and her father are no longer together, and i didn’t like to be around him alot,my daughter leaves with me all week long and on every saturday i bring her to her father so she can be with her daddy and so i can have a day or so break.every single time that i bring mariyah to her dad i make sure that i’m there to pick her up befor he goes to work even if i need to wake up at 5 in the morning.well on this sunday, my friend who was going to give me a ride to get my daughter ended up getting into a car accident on her way to get me.so i called my daughters father and told him that im going to be late my ride had a accident and i was going to try my best to get there as fast as i could,and if anything ask my father to keep a eye on her till i get there. well, instead he did this..he asked my neibor to watch her,cuz he hasn’t seen me in days and he dousn’t know what else to do.so she called cps.and within a time range of about 4 hours cps had already came tothe neibors house to speake to her,andi of course was unaware of all of this ,so,when i show to pick up my daughter from my neibor,she said that a cps worker had stoped by and was asking where i was and she left a card for me to call her, i said ok i’ll give her a call.as i was in my parking lot about to put my daughter in the car two police officers and a cps worker came up to me and told me that i was not aloud to take my daughter anywhere cuz she was going with them,and i didn’t understand what her resons for taking my baby ,the first thing they tried saying was that i neglected and abandoned my baby,and possibly abussed her. and right then i lost it ,i was crying my eyes telling her how did i abandon her when i left her with her father ,and look at her shes healthy,smart ,happy,clean,and you could cheack her up and down you’ll never find a mark of abuse,and i even offered the worker to go into my apartment and look at it cuz she has plenty of toys,food,clothes just please go look so you can see she is taking care of she is my life.so then the worker refused to do a walk through, and said that also i left my baby in care of some unable to provide proper care for her,she was talking about the neibors house ,she said there was alcohol bottles everywhere and she beleived the neibor was a alcoholic,and agian i said i left my daughter with her father,he was the one who brought her down their i told him to ask my father to watch her.then she said that she believed that i was under the influance of drugs and over reacting about the whole situation as a side affect of being under bthe influance, what kind of reactin are you going to expect when you go to a mother a take her baby from her and tell her you believe that the child is in immeadiate physical harm what do you think the mother is ging ti do? exactally what i was doing crying my soul out of my heart. so i told her lets go take me to your clinic or doctor or wherever i need to go so i can pee in a cup.right now,and that heartless witch looked at with a stuck up smirk on her face and said ya well i don’t think thats going to happen today,and then those stupid evil people made me put my baby in the car seat as she’s screaming and clawinh trying to keep a hold on my neck crying mommy i want byebye contigo,.i hate them so much for making me do that,its bad enough that i was hurting inside and cryingout because i knew that i have no choice but to make her go with them and i understood that they were taking her from me, then thats even worse to make me hold her down put the bent on her and tell her im sorry baby you cant come with me,and all she understand is that her mom is making her go with these people she dousnt even know,and thats all she knows even now,it’s been almost 2 months since i seen my baby,she turned three years old on august 17, and i wasn’t aloud to be there to see it,and even now ther has not been a court date, a wlk through, or evn any kind of investigation that ive herd about cps doing in other cases where they don’t take the kid even from a crack head. that really hurts not to be around my daughter,now cps said that i have to get a mental health evaluation and be on meds befor i can get any visit with my kid and i know my baby probolly thinks that i didn’t want her,or somtimes i even wonder if she’ll remember who i am,cuz two months to a 3 year old seams like years to them. if any one hes any kind of legal advise that can help me please i need it my # is 2066000077

Comment by kristy curry — September 4, 2007 @ 11:19 am

I was recently reported to CPS by the school nurse my 7 yr old attends. School had just started 2 days ago and he had an accident in his pants which went unnoticed or unreported for practically the entire day. My son after lunch was complaining about an awful rash which at this point had his bottom raw and nearly bleeding. The school nurse notified me about the situation. Now, I would have agreed to whatever suggestions she had to help him to overcome whatever problem he might have been facing, however it just turned out to be one accustion after another on the telephone and I’m assuming a lengthy interrogation on her part with my 7 yr old. She had now come to the conclusion his “rash” had been untreated and neglected for a week or so, he now gets beat up by his older 15 yr old brother; and we have terrified and traumatized him from all the horror movies we make him watch which is why he is now afraid to go to the bathroom in the dark. I can’t say enough how none of this is true other than he did develop a rash from his bathroom accident, but how could this have turned into a CPS issue? I’m so confused and hurt. Is the school nurse allowed to make assumptions and accusations without really being accountable for them?

Comment by Jane — September 4, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

I am here because my 6yr old niece has a LOT of emotional issues due to the abuse she suffered before I got custody of her at 3 yrs old.
The abuse she suffered was sexual,emotional and physical at the hands of her mother,father and a friend of theirs. The father is in prison for child rape, mother is in prison for facilitation of murder and selling prescription narcotics.

I have done everything every proffessional has told me to do and it has yet to be enough then MY FAMILY gets accused of abuse by one of the case workers! I have asked them to put her in a HOSPITAL and not a foster home but no one will listen to me.

I have called and made 3 DCS referals myself since I have had this child, called a crisis hotline on her and begged her family doctor for help.
She’s getting counciling by a professional and she’s doing weekly group therapy at another place.

The child is diagnosed ADHD, impulse control issues, possible OCD and possible bi-polar, with the latter 2 not being documented to keep the child from being labled.

The child in has lied on her school teachers,principal, counselors and nursing staff about sexual abuse.(stating they preformed vaginal exams on her daily at school)

The child has cut her 3 sisters hair 14x’s (16 yr old sisters hair 6x’s, 5 yr old sisters hair 6x’s, 3yr old sisters hair 2x’s) in their sleep (with scissors even hidden and she found them).

After the 14th time of the hair cutting I cut the childs hair extremely short (per family doctor and therapist) and now DCS says I’ve abused the child.

The child constantly lies to her therapist, when the therapist calls her on it she finally admits what shes done (i.e. watching her with her own eyes destroy items in her office, the hair cutting, the pooping)

The child held another girl down on the ground at school and tried to make a 3rd child kiss the one pinned on the ground.

The child lied constantly to her kindergarten school teacher when the teacher told her she knew she wasn’t telling the truth the child would then tell the truth.

The child put NAIR in her own hair.

The child put NAIR the next night in her 3 sisters hair.

The child at 3 yrs of age lied about a cousin sexually abusing her with a snack cake.

The child has lied and stated her 7yr old cousin sexually abused her because the 7yr old didn’t want to spend the night that the 6yr old wanted her to.

The child has lied about her 14 yr old sister sexually abusing her, this sister doesn’t live with her.(This child was sexually abused by her mothers boyfriend)

The child put dog poop in the 14 yr old sisters mouth.

The child threatened her therapist by saying she would cut her hair because she made her mad.

The child has escaladed the hair cutting to her sisters( 5yrs and 3yrs old) being awake and at knife point for the last cutting. ( I allowed her 2 sisters to hit her for cutting their hair to the scalp and they left brusies so now DCS says I abused the child)

The child poop’s and pee’s in the bed and wipes it on the wall.(but not in her panties she pulls them down to go potty)

The child lied about her 16 yr old sister sexually abusing her. ( This child was also sexually abused by her mothers boyfriend)

I am the one who reported the incident and the CPS worker and the
local police investigator are making out like its OUR fault (her 16 yr old sister, my mother and myself) she is the way she is.

The CPS worker lied to my attorney in court. The foster care case worker lied to my attorneys paralegal.

Comment by Tara — September 6, 2007 @ 12:13 am

To Tara,

I posted earlier. My 9 year old is very similar to the child you speak of. I know the kinds of lies that can be perpetrated against families. My one piece of advice is to get intouch with Your local NAMI (National Alliance of Mental Illness) and ask for help from them. They are families who live with this everyday who have been there.

Comment by Char — September 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm

I must first say that I am sorry that all of you have had dealings with CPS in some way shape or form, well in my town they are called ** DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY CHILDREN SERVICES** AKA DFACS.

Let me start by saying that I am a grandmother of 4, ages from 9 months to 3 1/2. My daughter had her first kids ( twins ) at an early age of 15 and then a second one @ 17 and the last @ 18. Before her last child was born I had a 2 bedroom trailer that we all lived in because it was all I could afford @ the time. Well my mom was looking for a place so I let her come and stay as well until she could find a place of her own, but according to DFCS that was a big mistake. They came to my home in the summer of 2006 and removed my 3 grandkids by saying that the kids were being neglected and also because of inadequate housing, well she had a hearing 2 weeks later and they kept the children and put them in foster homes. She was given a case plan to do and that she would go back to court 6 months from that date that they was removed. We moved out of the trailer and got a 3 bedroom house big enough for me, her and her kids. Well in december of that same year she gave birth to her son, and DFCS allowed her to keep her child and take him home because they said she had finished 90% of her caseplan. She went back to court also that month and they added more things for her to do on her caseplan, and among those things, she was told that she had to get her GED before she could get her kids back ( WHAT !!! , THERE IS NO LAW THAT STATES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GED TO RAISE KIDS ) She attended parenting classes and completed them but they told her the place she went to was not good enough and made her do them over. In September of 2007, they came and removed her son ( 9 months old ) by saying she has not been complying with them and has not done everything they have asked her to do. Correct me if I am wrong, but where is the justice in this? These people always say they do things in the best interest of the children, but my question is HOW ? How can ripping a family apart for no good reason be in their best interest? I have been browsing the internet in search of a way to fight these people and get my grandbabies back home. I have no clue where to start. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas, please let me know. I would really appreciate anything that anybody can do.

Comment by Michele — September 7, 2007 @ 1:54 am

Please log onto the message board to talk to others about your cases.

Comment by Linda — September 7, 2007 @ 8:01 am

To Jane:

Unfortunately, any professional who works with children is required by law to report SUSPECTED abuse. This school nurse sounds like she is unable to differentiate between abuse and a child who has simply had a toileting accident. Sounds like she put words in his mouth, like getting beat up by his brother & being forced to watch horror movies. He may have been frightened of her and said yes to her questions out of fear. What she should have done is notified you to come and get him. The teachers/school employees where I live have to undergo training to spot signs of possible child abuse. I lived in fear the entire time my child was in elementary school because I was afraid that a bump or bruise she’d gotten while playing would be interpreted as abuse. (My own nightmare with DSS was before she started school.) Please speak to an attorney ASAP. I did not do this and always regretted it — like you, I was innocent and assumed I didn’t need a lawyer.

Comment by Judy — September 7, 2007 @ 11:28 pm

Thank you Sabena,,,, my children are older now, one is actually majority age which makes visiting somewhat easier. However because of the brainwashing and lies that were told we are still working on our mother and child bond. My other child won’t reach majority for 2 more years and wants so badly to come home to me. However my parental rights were teminated and both children were adopted. I do look for the sliver lining in everything about this situation or I would never be able to get out of bed. That is, I know who has them and their first names were NOT changed and I have a somewhat workable arrangement with adopted parents. So i am very careful not to tip my hand, so to speak. My minor child now realizes all the lies that were told. And is not taking this well and i am worried about the future. Minor child thought that if agreed to adoption that meant out of states care and then could come home with me. Child didn’t understand what PERMANACY really meant. And the state wouldn’t even try for reunification. will write more later.

Comment by Wendy — September 9, 2007 @ 7:00 am

Just for clarafication,,, when i wrote “their first names were not changed,” i am refering to my children… during the adoption process. thank you.

Comment by Wendy — September 9, 2007 @ 7:08 am

Hello, My name is Richard. My wife and I have been trying to fight the beast known as CPS. We have not seen our duaghter in over eight years. We have had many problems since they took our child out of our home in indiana. We miss and do love our little girl and we hope that we can see her again. To make it easier for people to have their children, I believe that the CPS system should be banned from the goverment and that the CPS agents should be tried for several counts of kidnapping and other crimes against humanity.
The thing that I hate the most about CPS is that they lie, cheat, and steal peoples children to make the biggest buck. And then they use our families against us and then they make these deals with other people and some of the family members that say that will help you. And in the long run we get screwed over and over again until they get what they want.
I have a friend that has been fighting CPS and the battle is on a every day struggle for her and her family. The CPS agents came into her home and took her grandson out of the home when the mother and herself were not home. They did not show any id and they just walked into her home and ripped her grandson out of her mothers arms and they did not even knock, they walked into her home.
We are looking for any kind of information on how to fight the system with the system.
Here is a tid-bit for all that might want to hear it. CPS changes the system to mkae their job easier and harder for us the victims to fight them. I have personally found out that they get their way every time, and they get money for ever child that they take and place with a foster home or a home with relatives. All that I would like to see is that we the victims get our children home and that we maybe able to get something back into our lives that has a meaning.

Comment by Richard Clarke — September 10, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

I want to know what state agency investigates and prosecutes DSS/CPS. The Spartanburg, SC DSS office needs to be investigated. immediately. The true criminal they don’t go after. They don’t have to have any evidence to prosecute someone only a statement. DSS instructs the accusers what to say to make themselves believabl to the courts. They encourage false accusations. They have to be stopped

Comment by A Corbin — September 10, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

well i am the mother of four soon to be five kids cps took all my kids away because of there dad doing drugs and saying i cant protect my kids. i really want to find out the answer to my question and the question is if i gave up my kids in the best interest of them can cps still mess with me if i have another baby. if so where od they get off messing with people who are tring to make a life for them self

Comment by Misty — September 11, 2007 @ 1:44 am

A. Corbin,
The FBI invistigates CPS. Some people on here have gone about it that way. Go to the FBI website. If they violated the constitution or federal laws they would be the one to report it to.

Comment by Debbie — September 11, 2007 @ 3:39 am

Misty - nobody knows what CPS agents will do because their decisions vary from case to case. I heard from a young mother a few years back. She was pestered by them when she was a teen mother and decided to give up her fight and let them adopt her baby out. About five years later when she was a young woman and ready to start a family, a CPS agent walked into her hospital room and took her baby right out of her arms without any warning. The 1996 ASFA law allows them to take children from people who have had prior TPR’s (termination of parental rights) without any reunification plan, and even without visitation. However because that happened to that person, doesn’t mean it will happen to you. But it might.

Comment by Linda — September 11, 2007 @ 7:42 am

I live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma where almost a month ago CPS took my son from his daycare for bruising that he DID NOT have when I got him dressed that morning. They asked m no questions and I was not allowed to examine these markings they said I left on my son. He is four and has already lost his father earlier this year to suicide. Now he is still in some foster home and I have not seen him since that day the C”Protective”S took him. They have ruind my live and took the only thing I have to live for and for what? I am now on antidepressants and have probably lost my job that I have had for almost three years. They are filing no charges against me but I still have not gotten him back. What am I suppose to do? Hope that they wake up feeling generous one day and give him back? During the investigation, which is now over, they didn’t even speak to my room mate about any of this and she lives with me!!! Can anyone help me? I’m lost! If anyone in OK is going through this too please email me at anya2626@yahoo.com Maybe we won’t feel like the only ones going through this!

Comment by Anya — September 11, 2007 @ 1:28 pm

I am warning you, this is VERY long. I have tried since this began to completely block it mentally, but I still have a lot of feelings and a vengeful mindset about it.

Three years ago, a year I’ll never forget. Wearied from our moving and transition from the US Army, myself and my wife decided to settle into my home town in a county that was found out that my relatives owned about a tenth of and had tremendous legal and political pull in.

While in the military there was several accounts while stationed in Germany with my wife and newborn daughter that reports were being made on us saying that our daughter was severely neglected. These of course was always false.

On August 19th we had a knock on our door in the little quaint town of Rose Hill, North Carolina. It was the department of social services for the county of Duplin, and they were very demanding. Upon answering the door after we thought they were trying to break into our house from the loud beating on the door (of course we didn’t know who they were at the time), I invited them in, having nothing in the least to hide. Of course they tried to use the “we have a deputy ready to come out if you do not let us in” trick, but that didn’t matter to me.

Just after being invited in (at this time we had 3 children, the oldest was a girl, and the youngest two were boys, the youngest was about 6 months old) the “lead” lady looked on the floor there where we had laundry neatly sorted ready to be washed and yelled, “This is a suffocation hazard!”.

Leaving myself and my wife dumbfounded there at the back door she streaked into the living room and yelled again as she picked up an empty cigarette butt (that fell out of my pocket as I smoke outside and instead of littering the yard I place the butts in my pocket for later delivery to the trash can) and yelled again, “This is a choking hazard! Oh my god!”

It was then they saw our youngest son sleeping on the couch in his little rocker chair. The “lead” lady again snatched him up, waking him up of course, and naturally he started crying. Still limp from sleeping and drowsy the lady, Ms Jones, insisted that something was wrong with him and that he need medical treatment. After we told her he was already receiving treatment from bone problem in his neck she immediately insisted it was from neglect and walked outside with him, to my surprise where I found my mother waiting. After insisting and nearly physically fighting the lady to give the child back her “partner” was loading up the other two in my mother’s car. They left faster than I could think at the time as everything was still in one big swirling motion. All three of our children had just been removed from our home, a loving, caring environment for no apparent reason.

Thirty minutes later we receive a phone call from Ms Jones, and she states, “If you want to ever see your children again, you will be in my office at eight AM tomorrow and you will cooperate”.

Still with a lack of speech, we agreed to be there.

The next morning, arriving thirty minutes early, we are escorted inside by four sheriffs deputies. Ms Jones hands us a document and says, “Failure to sign this paperwork will result in jail time”. I have never been to jail, never been in trouble with the law, and there were four deputies hovering over our shoulders. Reading the document there were 3 sections that drew my attention that the lady refused to comment on:
1. We surrender our children to my parents.
2. We surrender legal rights to our children to our parents
3. We will continue to provide financial support to our children.
4. We waive our rights to trial to forgo and bypass criminal trials.

After signing the document, Ms Jones yelled out the door for another worker, she came in and quickly notarized the document. We were refused a copy of it.

After six weeks of calling DSS/CPS on a daily basis to get hung up on, reality hit and depression started to settle in and impeccable timing to also find out that we were going to have our fourth child. What was really odd was no more than eighteen hours after we found out, so did DSS, to our complete surprise and confusion to how they found out. So much for medical privacy.

during this time, my mother and adopted father refused to speak to us. Our calls to them as well were hung up on.

At that point in time there was a decision made by myself and my wife, in order to protect the future of the family unit we utterly had to do everything with planning for the child in private. We did. We did not call DSS during this time, and their calls and questions about our unborn child was in return hung up on. At this point I was contacted by my biologicial father living in Florida, NC. His information that he divulged to me was one of the largest reliefs we had. It would seem my mother was very skillful at gaining a child, running off with the child and keeping the parent away, as she had done my biological father. According to him, when I was 2 weeks old, she left him, and disappeared. One year later, she had the court systems declare me abandoned by my father and hours after that decision my adopted father had adoption papers ready.

My bio-fathers advice was to contact family on my mother’s side, as they would understand and my not be on my mother’s side like I had originally anticipated. My first call was to my grandmother. She sighed with relief and went though a very big “spill”. She stated that she had heard enough from my mother, how she had meticulously planed the entire ordeal, had her social friends whom worked at DSS make the official decisions and doctor paperwork, and that she, my grandmother was willing to do whatever it took to help.

It was 2 days later, my grandmother called me back and said she had been threatened for talking to me, also stating that the DSS had told her that she was unable to have any contact with my children now that she had contact with myself. She had also been cut off from my mother, so my source of information was now deminishing. My second call was to my aunt (Mother’s sister) whom had also been in contact with my mother. She explained very quickly to me that she had no idea what was going on other than that my mother and DSS was railroading a young couple whom had very little money. She said she had seen the kids just after they were taken and were in perfect condition, and that the story that was being told to her was that my youngest son was on the brink of death from neglect. She said that one of my mother’s doctors labeled my son as “failure to thrive” which was total horse shit and failed to ever comment on our other two children. She then said that she was at our service; any information she could gather to help, she would and would not let my mother know so.

After still, repeated times of hanging up on my mother and DSS as their “greeting” would consist of, “How is the baby doing” talking about our unborn daughter, we finally got a deputy to come out to our house with papers. WE HAVE BEEN SUMMONED TO COURT! Actually I was very happy, I mean I had fought for our freedoms and fairness in the Army, how could our “justice” system betray me now right?

Our induction to court was them finding out that we could not afford an attorney, and they happily appointed one for us! I, however was very distraught to find out that my attorney was my adopted father’s family attorney. This was my first hint that things were trotting down the wrong road. As I asked for another attorney, the judge’s comment to me was, “Beggars cannot be choosers.” so I left in stride.

To spare some more detail and meetings at DSS that consisted of my mother lying, DSS lying, and me about to go into SF Ranger mode and just slaughtering everyone in the building…. Lets not go there as it was only a thought at the time he he. We quickly ended up in court, were the trial lasted three days. Just before the trail I was given the best piece of advice that I could have ever come accross from my bio-father, “Get the hell out of that county, pack your bags, move, settle into Wayne county where your grandmother and mother’s family lives”. We did. On the first day of court, the workers RAN to us, as the manager of the worker said, “You guys moved?”

I smiled and said, “Yep!” The other worker said, “Why did you move, where did you move to?” I replied with, “We don’t live in this county any more”. Both of the DSS ladies look like they had seen a ghost. My mother overhearing that also turned white. Inside the courtroom, the judge looked familiar but I just couldn’t place him. There were several of my adopted fathers “buddies” that showed up to the hearing, one of them appoached the judge and said something to him very friendly like, and I remember the judge saying, “I cannot talk about that now.” Then Mr. Matthews, my adopted father’s friend said, “Well, we will talk about it at lunch then!” as he smiled and walked off.

The entire hearing consisted of DSS talking and my wife’s attorney and my attourny talking to a judge that was whirling around in his chair staring at the ceiling. Finally my wife’s attorney stated, “Your honor, I move that this case be transfered to Wayne County, the proper jurisdiction of this case.” He just laughed at her and said, “What would make you think I would do something like that.” She said to him, “Because the law says you have to being they no longer live in this county.” He too turned white. Mind you this is now the third day of this case, he states to us that he can do nothing more than “adjudicate” the case, which he did, and said the findings of:
1. Abuse
2. Criminal Neglect
3. Medical Neglect
Was substantiated. I had no doubt this would be the findings after Mr. Matthews had spoken with the judge as he did.

Here is how it was substanciated. Abuse, I have no idea, as he provided no reason at all. He said neglect was founded on the terms of what the DSS worker said she found, and medical neglect was founded on the fact that DSS had no ever spoken with our children’s family doctors for medical records or immunization records which they had. Also he also took my mother’s doctors words in as “evidence” where the doctor outright said in his letter myself and my wife were “Mentally retarded”, which we are far from according to IQ tests performed after the hearing, and also stated that my son’s neck condition that he was born with was a result from us leaving him laying down for long periods of time. However just after that statement he said he had a back condition in which was resulting from leaving him “sitting up” for too long.

I remember the testimony of the DSS workers in detail, and they are heart wrenching. I can only ask that any reader prepare themselves for what they are about to hear.

Myself and my wife are no neat freaks by far, however we do pride ourselves in a CLEAN envornment as I do not tolerate conditions that are deemed unsafe.

The worker that got on the stand was the first worker to enter our house. She stated that there was fecal matter smeared all over the kitechen floor, dirty dishes on the floor, table, stove, and sink, dirty diapers filled the home, and dirty clothes filled the home to an unsafe standard.

My wife’s attorney quickly bit hold of that, by asking the lady again, “There was fecal matter smeared all OVER the floor in the kitchen?” The lady said, “Yes it was so bad you could barely see the color of the floor”. Then her attorney asked, “Where were the clothes again?” The lady stated, “All over the kitchen floor”. Again, the wife’s lawyer said, “And was it bad enough to be called a suffocation hazard as your report says?” She then responded, “Yes it was piled so high it was like wading though a child’s ball pin.”. Her lawyer quickly said, “Ms Jones, if the clothes were piled that high, how on earth did you ever see the fecal matter you said was smeared on the floor?” Ms. Jones had no reply as the county attorney “I object your honor”.

She then went into a spew about the dishes saying they were everywhere as well, again the attorney asked her how the dishes were piled, she said everywhere. The wife’s attourny then asked why she didn’t document the piles of cloths as a pile of clothes and dishes. That was objected to as well and sustained. Finally the diapers was brought to light as the attorney asked her specifically “how many diapers did you see?” She stated, “about 5 or 6″, and basically said it was found in one area of the house and did not and would not specify they were in the trash can (diaper genie).

The second worker got up that our attorneys summoned, an actual friend of mine from high school that had come out that is usually an interpreter for DSS. He stated flat out in the court, “There was nothing wrong with their home, it was neat and tidy, and as I asked them then, I cannot see how their kids were ever removed”. The judged immediately dismissed him from the stand and I overheard the head lady (Mrs. Elva Quinn) outright tell him, “You are fired, go box your things, you had better be out by close of business”.

My hat still goes off to him. He did a bold and daring thing by standing up there and stating truth and he was repaid by a slap in the face by his supervisor. As she said, “close of business”. The ironic part of that is, DSS is just that, a business. The more children they take away, the larger their department can be, and the more the supervisors get paid. At least in this state, North Carolina.

After the hearing was done, the judge saying what he did, they had no choice but to let Wayne County “follow up” where justice would finally be served in the way it was intended.

On several instances, we had DSS from Duplin County DRIVE UP to our house in Wayne County and demand to enter to home, where we very zealously told them to go to hell. When we finally heard from our new worker, we thought she too would be like the ones in Duplin County. She, Marry Cogdale, called us and sounded just as abrupt as the workers in Duplin and said she would get back to us after she reviews our case.

Two days later we were contacted, and she said she would be at our house “shortly”. Five minutes later she arrived, smiled and introduced herself to me as the new worker. She was very vague in what she said but I remember her telling us, “I have another court date setup for you.” We took that with stride thinking that this would be a mere repeat.

A couple of weeks later she told us that she would be setting us up for visitation with our children and gave some really strict rules that we had to follow such as, “Do not speak with your mother”, and “I am arranging the visitation in our county, under no circumstances do you enter Duplin County to visit your children” etc.

It was until a while later she told us that the case she was handed was the most bizarre case she had ever seen. She said that from what she read, our children should be dead, not still living healthy and as strong as oxen. Mind you this is now 9 months after we first had our children removed.

She also divulged more infromation to us, such as persons in Duplin County being fired including Elva Quinn, and also the Judge being removed from his position in the court circuit. Finally she sat us down, and explained to us that we were not bad parents, despite what we had been brainwashed into believing. She went on to tell us that we had been railroaded and we needed to console in my grandmother and aunt that had been by our sides since we first contacted them.

It was the first day of court in Wayne County on July 14th. At the very starting of the hearing, the female judge had a “bench” conversation with the attournies in which my wife and audience could not hear. The judge then said, “For privacy reasons I am ordering everyone to exit the courtroom for this hearing.” My mother was in the audience and started yelling, cursing, and screaming at the judge! I was very surprised that the bailiff didn’t just cuff her right there, which would have given me a lot of satisfaction.

The judge looked at myself and my wife, and said, “I have seen your case files, I have heard what Duplin County has to say, and I have also seen what the court process you went though was like. I have spoken with your attournies already and DSS attournies. They are all in agreement that your children…. be returned to you effective immediately. I am in one hundred percent, complete agreement with this and will not stall another moment. ” She looked at the clerk and said, “I need an official order written up right now awarding custody back to these parents.” The clerk looking very, lol VERY confused, my wife’s attorney said, “Give me the letter head, I’ll do it”. My wifes attorney writes some legal things down on paper (Which we STILL have the original for) and the judge signed it, and had the clerk notarize.

My wifes attorney (LOL) looks at the judge and says, “Your honor, who’s going to tell the…. *pause* grandparents?” All attournies are looking dead at the Judge. She looks back at them and says, “Well I guess I have to huh?” I’m about to cry for joy and laughter litterly right now as she tells the bailiff to let everyone back in.

After everyone enters and settles down the judge says, “Mrs xxxxx, please approach”. My mother steps up to the area where we were all standing, and she says, “To bring the court up to speed, I have awarded custody of the children back to the parents. You, Mrs. XXXX are to have the children ready for delievery in Wayne County in no less than 5 hours with all of their belongings at the described place on the order”. My mother started again cursing, yelling, and calling profuse names. The judge actually still smiling looks at my mother and says, “Mrs XXXX, how does it feel to be rail-roaded.” as the bailiff has hold of my mothers arms carrying her out of the court room. After she leaves you could cut the silence with a knife, then you hear my mother and her family outside of the court-room yelling at the bailiff and the Wayne County DSS workers that went out with her and would mediate the change.

On that day we regained our children, our family, our happiness. As I think back I can still remember that Duplin County DSS hovering over us about our unborn daughter like vultures waiting for the last bit of life to leave an animal before feasting. This is one of the most horrific experiences I can imagine happening to any parent. Before this, I really thought people whom were mixed up with DSS must be bad people, people whom didn’t care for their children. Now, after having my own experiences, I have realized the hard truth and presence of corruption in our own protection and legal systems. It is very sad when I think back to this, but I feel it necessary to keep things from ever reoccurring again.

On our last day in court, we were explicitly told never to enter Duplin County again. We have not and never will, even on a matter of life or death.

The really sad part is DSS has so much power, they are not and cannot be held accountable for these mistakes. Only the lowest of their employees are ever held accountable.

Comment by Michael W. — September 12, 2007 @ 7:21 am

Thanks for telling us your story, Michael. I’m sorry your mother would do such a terrible thing, but happy your children are safe at home with you where they belong. This story tells us how easily DSS can be used by corrupt people to harm families unfairly.

Comment by Linda — September 12, 2007 @ 8:13 am

I am also seeing that its a money thing too Linda. It seems that cases are more fabricated in rural areas than they are metropolitan areas as well. The DSS in this county has a program that is county run, basically where community members RUN the department. When we were first assigned to this department in Wayne County I remember them having to present the case to these community members. We then left the room while they had their little hearing about it.

Because of that, and since living here, we have had a LOT of false reports in which the workers came out, laughed and left LOL. As a matter of fact, it wasn’t but 5 months ago our oldest daughter broke her arm while horse playing with my eleven year old cousin (girl). Again horse-playing. A report was made to DSS about it, claiming that our daughter was slung up against the side of the house. Being a bit wiser, I had the doctor explain when they were doctoring her up, ON PAPER how her arm could have broken the way it did..

It reads,

“XXXX XXXXX’s ulna and radius suffered trauma to the wrist portion of the hand indicating a falling nature where the subject tried to flail and stop a fall at an unnatural angle in which inhibited the compound fractures. It is my professional opinion that the fractures were caused by the child falling and not due to neglect or abuse.”

When they came out, they received a COPY of that letter and went on their marry little way. If this had happened in Duplin County, I can tell you now, I would be in jail.

Comment by Michael W. — September 12, 2007 @ 9:23 am

My daughter, Dawn, had her baby girl taken away from her before she could even leave the hospital. That was in Jan. The only explination that we get is that the nurses saw Dawn watching cartoons, and didn’t think it was right, so she was reported to the Human Resources Dept. at the hospital, who in turn contacted CPS. They keep telling her that she has to do certain things to get the baby back. She does them, but then they come up with something else. Her boyfriend is an alcoholic and a drug addict. Dawn said to the therapist yesterday that she was tired of her boyfried always drinking, and doing drugs and that was going to kick him out. But, the CPS case worker told her that she couldn’t. He had to be in the home if she wanted her child back. Dawn was also told that he’d get the baby before she would. This does NOT make any sense! Do you mean to tell me that CPS would give a child to a drunk/drug addict with a police record before they’d give her back to my daughter who has always been clean? We just don’t know what to do anymore.
Thank you for listening.

Comment by Beverly Humphrey — September 12, 2007 @ 9:43 am

Parents are loosing their kids left and right all over the USA, even in Canada. You have to get angry and fight back. If a person is raped and never tells anyone about it, the person who did that to them goes on and does it to someone else Speak Out! Let people know about it. Do NOT let them get away with what they are doing. FIGHT BACK !!!! Stand on your RIGHTS!! You and I, we all have Rights, USE THEM !!!.

Comment by Patricia Ellingson — September 12, 2007 @ 3:40 pm

hello my name is sarah. I am here because my children were taken from me april 2005! I was accused of neglect, mind you this was all here say. before a full investigation my children were ripped from my home. I was and still am so scared ! my babies are my world. Now after mor than two years and having completed everything the social worker wanted me to do my children are still not home! In fact by telling lie after lie and making me out to be some kind of monster in front of the judge , they were able to terminate my parental rights!!!! I dont know what to do nobody belives me nobody will listen to me!!!!!!all I want is my precious babies home were they belong. they are now in their third foster home , they have been bounced around so much im sure they feel like nobody loves or cares about them and this kills me inside! I love them so very much , but they wont allow me to even speak to them to tell them! would someone tell me how this is protecting a child? this is torturing a child!!!!!!!! does anyone have any edvice for me? I will do anything to get my children home anything!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by sarah zinser — September 12, 2007 @ 10:05 pm

My friend had her newborn taken from her when she was in the hospital. The father of the baby is a level 3 sex offender, but he took a risk acessment evaluation and was found to be of no risk to kids. But dss still thought he was a threat. And when they found out that he was at the birth they went to the hospital and took that baby right out of her arms. I understand the concerns that are out there about the sex offenders but when there is n evaluation done that says of no risk then i don’t see why her baby can’t be with her. This is a story that i should tell the whole thing and then people would understand. I just pray for her that she gets that beautiful baby boy back.

Comment by dona — September 13, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

NEED ADVICE!!!
Well this is the first time i have ever heard of this website it had been a very long year with no one to turn to i thank God to whomever thought of starting this it is sure nice to see i am not the only one going through this!
Well here is my story… I have three children and was married to a physically and mentally abusive man…One day i realized enough was enough and slowly but surely got myself out of what i knew as my reality at the time which was surrounded by his control and manipulations…i had been with this man for 9 years since i was 17 years old it was all i knew and all my kids knew was him and his reality which became ours it was sad yet very real for us…i saw mine and my kids souls dying…after years and years of abuse i saw my sons face when he punched me in the back of my head where i went falling to the ground and saw the terror in my boys eyes was when i realized id rather be killed by him than to stay another moment in that nightmare.. and many many times during the transition of leaving for good which took about 2 months i was convinced i was going to be killed by him but i knew my kids deserved a better life…i got us a house had my divorce started got a protection order, which anyone who has been in my shoes knows its nothing more than a piece of paper to these guys and the cops really cant offer much help in this aspect unless u are dead pretty much probably due to the high volume of dv, so he stalked my every move became more and more mentally unstable due to his drug use along with his bipolar disorder i continually called the police to no evail i lived every day in fear fear for my children and for myself..And on my birthday in june of 06 he came into my home took my children…i called the police thinking FOR SURE due to his mental unstability they would get my kids and bring them back to me and that he would be violated for breaking the protection order….no such thing..they said because their was no parenting plan in place it was ok for him to have them oh boy did i regret not getting that in place before all this happened its a mistake i live with to this day..well my daughter was in school the next day so i raced there just min before he had arrived to pick her up (the school called me and informed me of this they were fully aware of the situation) i got her and held onto her for dear life she never left my sight and the school thank god said they would call the police immediatly if he came on the grounds…My boys however were still in the home with him so myself my mother my grandfather and my daughters school councelor all called cps informing them of all the dangers they were under when in his care..about a week and a half later i go to get my daughter from school and i am greeted with some teachers from the school notifying me that my daughter was removed by a cps worker they gave me her business card…as i walked out the door i was calling her..4 hours later she called me back informing me that they took the kids after inspecting his home and to meet her that monday..that it was no big deal and it would be resolved quickly..Mon came i went to the cps office met with her she told me she was very concerned for my safety and the safety of my children because of his actions and what he had told her she told me her concerns regarding me were that he told her i drank to the point of passing out he had locks on doors to their rooms and asked me why i told her that i didnt feel it was an appropriate thing to do to them and i would never have them locked in their rooms when he was not around (when i was living in that home that is) remember by this point i had my own home and the kids each had their own rooms with no restraints what so ever… i told her that yes towards the end of his and mine relationship i did drink quiet a bit but my kids always came first and i did not feel it was a problem once i had left the home she then tells me she has no doubt i cant take care of my kids that she thinks i am a good mother and that the only reason they are holding them is because of my ex mental state of mind..she then said i do not want u to feel u are being victimized again and respected the fact that i got out of the home despite it all she said she would meet with him the next day and i would have my children home asap…2 WEEKS LATER after calling her EVERDAY asking her where my children were she leaves me a voicemail saying where my kids were and that i could go visit them supervised..i than call her right back she finally answers and says oh i bet u are upset i said oh yes very much so why do u still have my kids and she has the nerves to tell me that she went to my exs had him sign over rights to my kids for 30 days i asked her why she never bothered to inform me she said well Dawn he is a parent to i was OUTRAGED!!! But by than it was all to late…i called the ombundsman service called her supervisor called attorneys called every where i could think of and no one would even bother to listen to me because by now it was an active dependancy and if i just followed through with their wishes it would be resolved in no time..her supervisor was the one who had to finally call her to have her call me back so i could find out why they took the kids from ME!!!She said they believed i had an alcohol problem and that i was unable to protect my children!!! My ex was a phyco, who could have protected them what could i have done to protect them more if i didnt even have proper support when i did reach out for help! They never once came to my home and looked at my house never once gave me an opportunity to defend myself against the allegations made against me HOW WAS I THE NEGLAGENT PARENT! Never the less his actions wound him up in prison a month later when he was arrested for having drugs and stolen guns,I figured for sure since he was out of the picture i would have my kids back but no by then i was on my 2nd cps worker and i was the one proving myself fit to be a parent i had to take ua’s 2 a week, get a drug and alcohol assessment it said i abused alcohol but was not dependent, had to see my kids supervised 2 times a week for an hour, go to domestic violence victims counceling, pay child support, see a regular councelor,parenting classes, family preservation services came to my home for almost a year.. i missed out on my daughters birthday the fourth of july my kids started calling the foster parents mom and dad they totally messed up my kids lives way way more than i ever would have! All the small little memories of their ever day lives that i will NEVER get back! I did this for 4 months with my daughter she was returned home to me when i wouldnt give up i told them that either they find me neglegent as a parent regardless of a parenting plan because the fact is they never took my kids because of me they had to prove me unfit because i did have my daughter at home living with me they could not so she was returned home…I got my boys back that december…my case is now days away from closing i have complied with EVERY service possible i have gone through 3 cps workers 3 GAL 3 lawyers and nobody really knows to this day the whole story of it except the original cps worker that filled this case against me…if i would have kept that same cps worker i would not be here now because she would have had ALOT of explaining to do i think but who knows maybe not with all their power! What is the goal of cps? To take the children only if the children are in harm and danger that their lives may be compromised if they are not removed! They should have helped us to help me gain my strength up after years of abuse not rip us apart so my children could endure more pain! They wake up in the middle of the night even still and make sure they are home because they are afraid they will never see me agian they do not and did not understand why they had to leave their mommy I DONT EVEN REALLY KNOW WHY! Never the less i have a job working with disabled adults i have been their now 3 years and every 3 years they run a background check well i was called into the office 3 days ago explained to me that i have “founding for child abuse and neglect” on my record! My employer immediatly called child protective services and asked them why it is on my record the lady they spoke to said oh it looks like it all steams down to her ex husband it just says that Dawn was an “absent parent and was unable to protect her children” and to call the assistant supervisor and let him know that it is a “unclear administration assessment” i called him got no phone call however had my current cps worker(soon over thank god) and the assistant supervisor told her that i need to write him a letter asking him to review my case and explain to him why it should not be on my file he than will call olympia and have it over turned…this to me sounds like a very lengthy process.. mean while, i am under 24 hour supervision i can not be alone in the same room with any of the people i care for it is sad and humiliating and for what!!! ANOTHER MESS UP!!! anyway i am asking peoples advice on where i should go with this i plan on trying to get a lawyer to take my case and see where it goes from their…This has been nothing short than a nightmare and i feel for any families who have had to endure this type of pain and agony and for the children who will be forever changed because of this! Please give me some advice on what avenues i should take here i feel it is a completely injust system we have here……Thank u Dawn

Comment by Dawn W. — September 14, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

@Patricia Ellingson:

Thats the very purpose of this site in a way I think. Also to bring something to light here that I thought I might share.

With having a powerful family background, that usually gets me into places I don’t belong, like talking to political figures and such.

On the phone with John Edwards himself, I’ll quote what he said:

“The DHCS* is one of the most powerful organizations in our nation. It is one of the only organizations that is not under our checks and balances system; the people whom make the rules and procedures for this organization is them, themselves. This is one monster that is unattackable. DHCS does not answer to state legislation. They do not answer to federal state legislation, they do not even answer to your governor or the president himself. They are an independent branch of government that has been completely unchecked since they were started.” ~John Edwards

Mind you after that comment he went on a spill of why he should be voted for president too.

DHCS = Department of Human and Children Services (CPS).

Comment by Michael W. — September 17, 2007 @ 10:23 am

Oh yeah Dawn, get an attorney…

When we first got our paid attorney (by my grandmother) the first response by CPS here in their “meetings” was “You cannot bring an attorney here.

He he… My attorney told them, “He can bring me to the bathroom when he takes a shit if he wants and if hes paying enough; you cannot legally tell anyone they cannot have an attorney present.”

Its a quote, it was crude of my attorney but the point is clear, don’t let CPS convince you not to get an attorney or that it will “make your case worse”… IT WILL NOT.

I remember mine asked me when my grandmother hired him… “Why in the hell did you ever left cps in your house to begin with”… My response was “because I had nothing to hide”… His response “there is nothing to hide from them, they are like sugar aunts on a cookie; you cannot see the sugar, but they will find every grain; Then exploit it.”

This is very true and the best bit of advice I can give.

Other than that, call your local legislature, and tell them to reform DSS.

Comment by Michael W. — September 17, 2007 @ 10:48 am

I need advice on my current situation concerning CPS in Wake county NC
They have not allowed me to see my two young boys for the past six months and there is no abuse or neglect since the case began over one year ago.

Comment by Alfredo Aguilar — September 17, 2007 @ 5:45 pm

I was a Foster Mother for 4 and a half years…in that 4 and a half years 16 children where placed with me, through a Christian Agency…. I also was raiseing my little daughter as well.
Needless to say, after the experiences I went through with some of the public accusactions,,, I will never be a Foster Parent again.
I had a little girl I fostered for 4 years, I got her when she was 7 months old…..
I had to take her to visitation with her mother at a drug rehab. for two hours, every two weeks.
And every two weeks she went over night for visitation with her father.
The case worker had discussed that their might be possible sexual abuse, But, they were’nt sure and they where invistagateing…. and I would have to make notations of what the little girl would say to me. And then report it to the case worker.
From the very beginning, I had reported the little girl had a bad yeast infection and irretation each time she would come back from her visit… and I would have to take her to the Dr. for Medicatation, the irretation would go away till the next visit….. and the same thing would happen again.
I had made a suggestion to the case worker that I did’nt think it was wise for them to let the little girl go back to her dad for visitation… But, they said…. she had to visit him….
Well, one day after a visit she had a bad irretation when she came back and I took her to the Dr…… he gave me Medicatation to apply and I also told him I suspected her father was fondeling her…..I told him I had reported this numerous times to the agency…. But, they still sent her on visits.
Well, to make a long story short… the Dr. had told me to let her run nude around the house , for a short time as this would help her heal….which I did.
I had to go to the store so I put some butterfly shorts on her, with wide legs… so the air could get through.
She was sitting in the grocery wagon and I guess she had her little legs spred some , and someone who was checking us out must have been looking up her short leg…..
Because, a couple of days later… I got a visit from CPS…. I guess she had gotten my name and address off my check…. The
allegations the CPS women said, were the person who called them suspected me of Child Molesting this little girl…. I was dumb founded…as well as shocked…. I could’nt believe I was hearing right….
As I would never do such a horrid thing…
Any way after I talked with the CPS worker, and told her what I had been reoprting to the agency and about my suspesscions of the little girls father…. and about haveing to take the little girl to the Dr. after each visit…etc.The CPS worker said she would have to get in touch with the Foster Agency Supervisor and CPS would have to investagate me…..
Then the next day the Supervisor from the Foster agency came out to my house and questioned me…. and she had already knew about my notations about the Father long time back….
Any way, she told me don’t worry about the allegations on me, she knew I never would do such a thing…. and that she would have to put me on 6 months probatation. I was really upset about the whole situation and told her she could just take the child and place her with another foster parent….. as I did’nt think I wanted to be a Foster parent any longer…. after such aqusatations.
She pleaded with me to not take it personally, and pleaded with me to keep the child and remain a Foster Mother…. she said, I had been a good Foster Mother and she did’nt want me to resign…..
After much discussion, I agreed to stay on….
But, I had decided I no longer wanted to be a Foster Mother after all this was over…. and I told her so.
I was an innocent person…. and I could’nt believe this was happening…
To be honest, I would not encourage anyone to be a Foster Parent….. as these things happen all the time, false accuasuations, of child abuse etc. when you become a Foster Parent…. from the public…
If I had known, I would never ever had become a Foster Parent.
That accuasuation, could have ruined my life……
Thank God nothing came of it!
So many people are accused of wrong doing….. by the public and they call CPS , and make false accusations, misconstru actions they see, make false reports to CPS of abuse, neglect etc. and are put through a liveing hell…..
And innocent people have their lives torn apart, and in a lot of cases ..have their children …torn from them… and famileys torn apart.
And whole familys hearts broken, and little children are
the ones who suffer the most…..
CPS is a horrible goverment agency, that should be put out of buisness…..
As I am well aware of, many horrible things do happen to children, and there should be another way to put a stop to this, Because CPS is not doing the job it is suppose to….. it is too busy getting involved in false accusations, to take care of the real cases of abuse, neglect and etc.
And those are the cases we read about in the papers……
When CPS was first founded, it was suppose to be a service to help keep familys togrther, and provide help for familys in crises.
And only get involved with real abuse, neglect etc. cases…….
I know someone who had CPS on them, because the child had gotten an earach and the parent had called for a Dr. Appointment, But, the Dr. could’nt see the child till the next day…
In the mean time the child had a counseling apointment, and so the Mother took him for his appointment..the counsler called CPS and reported the child had an earcah…..
The next day the child had gone to the Dr.and was treated.
Several days later, CPS showed up and you know their routene…..and they had an investagation…. over a simple earach.
Children get earachs, and most of the time it is because wind gets in their ear, when they are playing….it is very hard to make a 7 year old boy wear a hat…. because the wind is blowing…..
When I was growing up I use to get earachs… and my Mom would put drops in my ear, and it would stop. She did’nt run to the Dr. every time I got an earach……
Another situation where CPS was called, two brothers 7 and ( where scuffeling, and the 7 year old booped his brother on the forhead with a little plastic handle, and left a nickle size bruse…. he had a counseling appointment that evening,and the counsler called CPS and reported the nickle size bruse….CPS went out to the parents house and demanded to see the child, of course the child was in school…{ it was several days later that CPS had gone out there.}
There where 3 CPS workers, and
they went up to the school and questioned the children, took pictures, examed their bodies for more bruses{ of course there were no other bruses} questioned the office people at school, about the children, went to the church the children attended and questioned the people at church, about the children, and then did a full investagation …. of course the case was close after 30 days.
A nickle size bruse that his brother gave him while they where scuffeling…. put them and their parent through all that…
Another case, a Mother had just moved and she lived a way from the Grocery store about a mile, and she had to ride the bus to go shopping, as she did’nt have a car.
She had forgotten to buy suger, and she had started to make a cake for her little girl, and she realized she was out of suger….it was the little girls Birthday… she did’nt know her naighbors….. But, she decided to go across the street and ask the lady she had met, if she could borrow a cup of suger, till she could get to the store…. and she explained she had started to make a cake and it was her daughter’s Birthday…. the woman said, she did’nt have any suger…… and shut the door.
Well to make a long story short, a week later CPS knocked on the door and said, they had gotten a complaint that they did’nt have any food and they where starveing…..and of course child neglect accuasions…….
Of course the CPS worker checked the Ref. questioned the Mother, and said they had to investagate.
The Ref. did have food in it as well as the pantry…..
But, that is’nt the end of it, a week later another CPS worker came and the same accusations…. this time he was informed of the other one. So he left…….
The following week a social service worker appeared at the door, asking if they could help the Mother with food stamps……..
The Mother told her she did’nt need food stamps and that she was the third person who had come to her house…. because of a cup of suger……….
The Mother knew who had made the report, as she was the only naighbor she had talked to.
When I was growing up, I had heard that was how people would get to met their naighbors…. by borrowing a cup a suger…..
Don’t try that today…. you may wand up with CPS at your door… with aqusatations that you are neglecting your children……….
And if you are sitting out side on your steps with your kids, and they are playing…. you may get evicted for loitering and threatened by the landlord of calling CPS…. because your suppose to be inside your Apartment and not loitering…..
These are real things that happen to real people……
Pretty sad, is’nt it?
People are being terrorized every day, threatened with CPS…. and the people who should have CPS envolved because of real abuse, neglect and etc. get over looked…..
Where do you draw the line?????
People are useing CPS as a means to spite people, ex’s trying to spite each other, and some well meaning people call CPS because they don’t have the real facts and only go by what something may appear to them……..
People have been brain washed to call CPS for every little thing…. and many innocent people’s lives are being torn apart by CPS……
But, most of all, it is the children that are being hurt by this agency…… who claims to be a service to familys……..
Who has the power to take your children from your arms….. to drag them from their beds at night, to disrupt lives and put them in Foster homes where there are worse things that can happen to them…..
There are many good Foster Parents….. But, the system has failed the children…..
Children should remain with their familys….. and their parent or parents…..not with strangers…. who don’t love them……

Comment by Dottie Hashman — September 18, 2007 @ 12:34 am

Dear Dottie, your insightful comments have mirrored what TRULY INNOCENT PARENTS experience with CPS.

In their zeal to stamp out any and every scintilla of *child abuse* they have come close to killing children.

This agency must be held accountable.

Trouble is, the “Whores of the Court” need this bankrupt agency to keep their J_O_B_S. 70K attorneys in my state, too.

Comment by Fern — September 18, 2007 @ 5:48 am

I am a student majoring in Criminal Justice with the specialty of Youth Services. Next year I will be getting my Bachelor in Social Work. I just happen to come apon this site and sort of can’t believe what I’m reading, but then can. I can understand how and why people are against CPS and social workers (as it seems these two words/phrases are being used as the same thing). But at the same time - there is something you all are forgetting - the good that CPS and social workers are doing. Some children need to be taken away from their immediate family, you know, when they are being abused.

I am sorry for the families that go through the hardships of being falsely accused. But isn’t better for a few families to go through the pain and hardache of being falsely accused then CPS and other social workers not investigate possible cases of abuse? Think about it.

Comment by Heather — September 18, 2007 @ 7:47 am

Heather, I hope you plan to stick around and read all the answers you get to this. My answer is that ONE family falsely accused is criminal (on the part of the accuser and/or caseworker). But the sheer number of families attacked with false accusations signifies a far more serious, insidious problem. These people are being railroaded in juvenile courtrooms where they don’t even have Constitutional Rights honored, but they lose their children, who are more dear to them than anything else. Many also lose their jobs, their homes, and some, even their health.

If you plan to make a career in Youth Services, please be aware of what’s going on. True child abuse of the type that CPS was first created to address is rare. That’s why they are making mountains out of molehills and tearing families apart for trivial reasons - to keep their jobs and stay busy. CPS was a jobs-creation program. Now thousands of people are employed in CPS related jobs, and they all need their money, so the system churns on with children as the money-makers.

Do you think it is okay for children to be traumatized for life because the social welfare department needs clients?

Do you think it is okay that criminals in criminal courtrooms have Constitutional Rights but that parents in juvenile courtrooms don’t have the right to face their accusers, the right to a jury, the right to a public trial, etc?

You mention real child abuse cases. Well yes, there are a few. And those should be handled by law enforcement officers. Real child abuse is a CRIME. It always has been, and that’s how it was taken care of before CPS came into being. If a judge decides a criminal should stay away from a child, the judge can order it. We don’t need CPS social workers meddling in families and tearing them apart.

Comment by Linda — September 18, 2007 @ 8:02 am

Heather you stated “But isn’t better for a few families to go through the pain and hardache of being falsely accused then CPS and other social workers not investigate possible cases of abuse? Think about it.”
Think about this if you were one of the few families to go through the pain and hardache of being falsely accused how would you feel? My child was not abused but now is by the system set up to protect her. (psychologists opinion not mine although I agree) What your saying is it is child abuse is okay if it is done in the name of protection. No sorry! No child abuse is “good” in the home or done by cps outside of it. My daughter will carry the scars of what what happend for the rest of her life but what your saying is that is okay since they abused her to protect her. There is something wrong with your logic. It is not okay to abuse some kids in order to protect others.
I know somebody now an adult who was taken as a teen and placed in foster care for 2 weeks because somebody called in saying her step dad beat her. He didn’t she told them that yet was still taken away. Now as an adult she is afraid to even mildly discipline her children because of what she went through. She rarely even corrects them for doing wrong. In her mind she belives the state will come take her kids for any little thing she does. That isn’t good for these kids and not for her either. Taht one 2 week trip through foster care scared her so bad, caused so much pain, was so traumatic, that 15 years later she still isn’t functioning as she should. Now would you like to feed her your line and ask her that question? Yeah it’s great that somebody is out there to protect kids that need protection it’s not great when they turn something little into pure hell and make a bad situation for the kids.

Comment by Debbie — September 18, 2007 @ 8:57 am

Recently, a college student and Mother of a 2 yr old boy was sentenced to 60 days in jail for attempting to protect her son from ongoing abuse from his father. The mother kept her son from visitation after noticing numerous bruises on the child’s body upon his return from his father’s. Son even returning with an injury that required a full leg cast. This is not the only time a suspicion of abuse has been noticed. There had been numerous reports filed, all unsubstantiated. A Guardian ad Litem was appointed early on. Unfortunately, there is a problem with this; she had not seen the child in over a year. Her recommendation was for the child to be remanded into foster care. Her reasoning for this, simple, she didn’t know. She didn’t know if there was any abuse, but she did suspect the child was in danger, either from the father or mother. What? The mother? Yes, there was a theory that the mother was causing mental abuse for filing the charges and taking her son to the doctors. But with Indiana code, failure to report suspected abuse could lead to a Class B misdemeanor.
So, what’s going on here? Could it be that there is a little corruption going on? Could it be racism, because the mother is Hispanic? Or could it be that the father was a former police officer from the county this was held in? Either way, the mother is without her child, and the father has temporary custody. Yes, the father, who had numerous abuse allegations brought against him, has custody. While the mother sat in jail worrying about her son. Now, after this mother is out of jail she waits for the Judge to rule, while she is waiting the case worker at the CPS office has not turned in the reports to the court. So the court is under the assumption that nothing is going on-while her son keeps arriving to supervised visits with bruises, bug bit(he is allergic to these), welts, diaper rash-his skin peeling off. When she brings this to the attention of CPS that the reports need to be sent to the court. The CPS worker is offended. What the hell is going on with this system when the Judge does not want to hear the mother’s evidence and has to wait until she goes to jail to be able to tell him what is going on. Then the Guardian Ad Litem is allowed to withdraw verbally twice and then to act like she is still on the case. CPS does not want to deal with the case-even stating to the mother that she subcontracted out because she did not want to get involved. Not get involved-wait isn’t that their job? But when the subcontractors started noticing the child arriving with bruises and the way the dad acted they then told CPS to do something-they did -they took back the case. And have not been noting any visible incidents on their reports.
This mother was given the option by her former attorney to leave the country. But this mother chose to stay and fight because she did not want to take her son away from her family and the community that loves him. And did not feel she needed to run-why? She has not been harming her son.
So the truth will set you free. Yeah, after you spend 60 days in jail for trying to protect your son. Then she spends another several months having to do supervised visits while your son shows up with physical and mental trauma.
Thoughts, prayers…
home_mijo -at- hotmail.com

Comment by Den — September 18, 2007 @ 10:01 am

Dear Heather,

May I suggest that your college instructors have done you no favor in not informing you of the backlash which has existed against SS agencies since 1975?

If parents are truly abusing children, it is a crime.

And it is very hard for experienced parents to take parenting tips from someone without children.

You might wish to read “Whores of the Court” where a Ph.D clinical psychologist details the flimsy standards extant in Family Court.

While you’re at it….take a look at the Constitution and USSC holdings.

Comment by Fern — September 18, 2007 @ 12:01 pm

heather I don’t belieave socail workers are protecting children. the ones truely needing to be protected usally are not the ones that end up in care. and the ones that are in care are not protected in care often. it’s not okay to mentally abuse and emotionally abuse children over false alligations

Comment by Christy — September 18, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

Heather,
What if it’s your family being falsely accused of abuse that did not occur?? Would it still be “Okay” to faslely accuse you in the name of “protecting” other children who are abused? My 16yr old niece had to be admitted to Charter Lakeside because she wanted to end her life because of the false allegations.
How would you feel if it was your child?
How would you feel if one of your children commited suicide due to false allegations? Would you be promoting the horrid institute you are promoting now?? I would hope and pray to God that you open your eyes and not be as most social workers- drones feeding the economic system created by STEALING children from good homes.

Comment by Tara — September 19, 2007 @ 9:08 am

I just want to say that after 5 months of my children being in foster care I finially got them home on sept 6th. I did everything that they asked me to do. My husband is still doing everything. I still have to play there games by attending consoluning every week. They where suppose to be returned to me on sept 16th, but because of my pressure to have them removed from a foster home where i knew they where being treated badly the case worker finially saw it and had a emergency return to me. The case worker i have now is not to bad. He has actually helped us out. The first one on my case was a real jerk, he was on a big power trip. I just want everyone to know that i went through hell and back to get my kids back. I did all the stupid stuff that they wanted me to do. But i am very luckly because i have a great case worker now who actually cares. It took him from the time he took over my case in the end of july till september for me to get first longer visits then non supervised visits to getting sleepovers to having them home in time for school. There are good caseworkers out there. But there are also bad ones. I know and we live in Oregon and oregon has mre corupt people then anywhere. My thoughts go out to everyone who has their kids taken from them for unfounded reasons. Even though i have my kids home, i still am fighting for my husbands return. The caseworker i have is helping too. He has meet with us last week and says he will do everything to help us. He even has told us that it will be no longer then the second week of november before our family is completly back together. I believe him because he told me the same for my kids returning home and even got them home 10 days sooner. I know that we still have a long road ahead of us, and i want it to be over. I just want parents to remember to fight everyday and never stop. I was told that i am a very aggressive person by my caseworker when it comes to fighting for my kids. I told him that any parent who wants their kids home with do the same. So never give up! Find out everything you can on your own. I fought off every allegation with information. And also if they have foster parents who you feel are not good for your kids fight that! I taped recorded every conversation i had with my kids foster parents whenever i picked up or dropped my kids off. It saved alot of the she said they said stuff. keep records of everything you do. Everything! That helped me in court. Never give up! Fight for your family and let your kids know that you fight for them everyday!

Comment by angela — September 19, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

hello, my name is amanda housel.i live in somserset county. i thought this place was a pretty crooked county, but its more crooked than what i thought.in April of this year my daughter told my huzband a shivering story about how her step mother has touched her in the wrong places… my daughter would only trust him for some reason.but when he told me i died inside. i then told her caseworker at cys…it was never investagated. back in 2002. cys had took my daughter for 6 moths, due to the alligation that i was yelling at her.. she was only 4 weeks old…she slept and ate that was it…. they then took my daughter to foster care. evryday i cried i felt like i was loosing my mind… i have missed everything i was looking forward to seeing her do . (get her first tooth, roll over, anything that i wanted to see her do….i went and got an attorney and got her back. when my daughter was 10 mths old her father left her in a car for 2 hours in 19 degree weather. and hit me when i was holding her, so we broke up,my best friend at the time was sleeping with him. i wasnt sure, but i had the feeling, anyway those two got together and really damaged my daughter… i got her back last year and she had an adult hand print on her rear end… so i turned it in to cys and said i wanted something done about it, and my daughter said to the caseworker that the step mother spit in her face, and the caseworker asked her if she told her dad, and she said yes, and she said my daddy said that if i wasnt bad she wouldnt spit in my face… the father has refused to give emily her medication. and has refused to put her in her car seat when being transported…. so i took it to a lawyer.. mind you i have to send emily to her fathers every other week
and emily is petrafied of her step mother,,,,,, i have had emily’s fathers friends come up and tell me what has been going on at thair house, and its so bad it keeps me up at night. i have nightmares, and now it has developed into panic and anxiety….
here in july after i have told the caseworker about emily’s story about being touched in the wrong places, then turned it around on my huzband..whom i know would never do anything like that,,, he would never even bath her, because he knows how the step mother lies and puts emily through hell….. and i have takled to the investagator on the case,and cys had told me emily was touched i was well i can never explain the feeling that i had. but you feel worthless. i can explain that. but whenn i talked to the investatgator and told him that cys said emily was touched. he said that never happened. i dont know about you, but i hope noone thinks bad of me but i was thinking of taking my own life..but then i thought of emily..and i couldnt do that to her, she is my life.but anyway i am suing children and youth and the attorney for not doing thair jobs.Also i am pressing child endangerment on cys and the attorney and emilys father and step mother, ia m sick of my daughter being abused…they lock her in her room and threaten me infront of her, (the parents) and also have a friend follow me, video tape my house (daily) and went around my neihgbor hood telling all my neighbors that my huzband and i are child molesters. they have called my lawyer and even had him withdaraw from my case, (emilys father, and friends) there is a court order that emily be exchanged betewwen her father and i on a weekly basis..and he broke the court order and also lied to the child support officer,,, and i dont know what to do, but i am doing what i feel is right.JUSTICE FOR EMILY…..PLEASE WRITE BACK AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK MY COMMENT ON THIS SITE IS THAT,,THIS SITE IS GOOD FOR THOSE WHO FEEL THEY ARE ALONE, AND WANT JUSTICE FOR THAIR CHILDREN. THEY ARE OUR FUTURE…. IF ANYONE MAY HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR ME CONTACT ME A.S.A.P. I WOULD GREATLY APPRICIATE IT, FOR THE SAKE OF MY DAUGHTER,,, SINCERELY AMANDA HOUSEL,,,, PS NO ONE FORM THE CYS AGENCY HAS A SOCIAL WORKER LICENSE… SOMERSET COUNTY CHILDREN AND YOUTH(SOMERSET COUNTY)))) THANK YOU AGAIN AMANDA HOUSEL

Comment by amanda housel — September 20, 2007 @ 6:05 am

Hello Everyone,

I am here because I am doing research on CPS.

My story . . . .first, my ex husband is an attorney in Pike County Kentucky.

The social workers refused to investigate him. Now me, thats another story.

Well, there is no investigation. He filed an domestic violence petition against me for begging in public for money to buy my son’s medicine because the county attorney would not prosecute his friend, and fellow attorney for child support.

After nearly a year, I staged my own protest, while at the same begging for money.

I was convicted of domestic violence by a judge who had multiple ex parte communications with my ex husbands attorney. (It took letters to the KY Supreme Court to get a new judge who then vacated the order).

CPS investigated in 4-2006. But never wrote anything up.

Then in October 2006, they first unsubstantiated the claims of medical neglect that I had the children protesting while they were sick. Then the VERY NEXT DAY. The substantiated the claims which they had unsubstantiated the day before.

They also substantiated in such a way that it looked like I had multiple substantiation of neglect on multiple occasions. They claimed that there was an court finding of neglect. Of course, that never happened.

Of course, THEY NEVER CONTACTED ME ABOUT IT.

Then in March 07 my ex put online that I was a child abuser.

The records given to me show that sometime in December CPS destroyed the hard copies of everything. (Can you say violations of federal law).

I requested, and recieved a findings letter in March. I had my CAPTA hearing in May. I finally got my name removed from child abuser database in August.

Needless to say, I am very angry. But lucky for me, I worship a God who promises in the Bible that everything done in secret will be revealed.

Good luck to everyone out there. I know its hard to go through all of this. I am still on supervised visitation because the Judges in the case refuse to set a hearing on custody and visitation since Feb. 07. Truth always prevails. Sometimes, its just a long battle.

Comment by Amy Mischler — September 20, 2007 @ 11:48 am

This is to Heather in the comments above,

You stated that you are in a criminal law justice program. Then you know that our criminal legal system is based on the philosophy that its better to let ten criminals go free, than for one innocent person to imprisoned.

CAPTA, the federal regulation which governs CPS is a constitutional violation of the sixth amendment which guarantees a jury trial.

Moreover, under your theory its better for a few families to be falsely accused; its your contention that its better to take ten children from the homes of innocent families and place them in foster homes where they have a substantially higher chance of being murdered and sexually molested, than to let one child stay in a home where they abused.

Comment by Amy Mischler — September 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am

i read the prayer requests, and i pray foy you all.these are some pretty horifying stories… I THANK GOD, BECAUSE IF I WASNT FOR HIM, I WOULDN;T BE HERE….BUT SOMETIMES I JUST WONDER WHY. THEY SAY GOD NEVER GIVES YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE. BUT MOST OF THE TIME WELL ALL OF THE TIME SITUATIONS LIKE THIS ARE…….. KEEP YOUR HEADS UP… I AM THINKING MAYBE I SHOULD GET EVERYONE WHO HAS THESE PROBLEMS AND HAVE THEM PROTEST WITH ME… NOTHING ELSE SEEMS TO WORK. AND MAYBE WE CAN START OUR OWN SERVICE, SHUTTING THESE PEOPLE DOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO IS WITH ME? !!!!!!!!!! PLEASE COMMENT BACK PS IA M NOT CRAZY, BUT I AM FOR JUSTICE FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AFTERALL THEY ARE OUR FUTURE.

Comment by amanda housel — September 20, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

ALSO I FORGOT TO COMMENT TO BRITTANY….I WAS 17 WHEN THEY TOOK MY DAUGHTER FROM ME FOR 6 MONTHS.I DONT KNOW HOW I GOT HER BACK BUT I DID.AND IT HAS MENTALLY SCARRED ME.. THANKGOD TO THIS SITE,BECAUSE WE CAN HELP YOU. WHEN THIS HAPPENED TO ME I HAD NOONE,THEY TOOK ME FROM MY MOTHER, AND PUT ME ON MY OWN. BUT I MADE IT, AND I MUST SAY JULIE IS RIGHT,DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, GOD GAVE YOU THIS BABY FOR A REASON. TAKE IT AND RUN, BECASUE YOUR GONNA BE LIKE ME. I DONT KNOW THE BABYS DAD, BUT MY THEROY IS TRUST NOONE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT BABY.NOBODY CAN CONQUER SOMETHING AS PRECIOUS AS THAT. I AM NEW TO THIS BUT IF I FELL SOMETHING CAN HELP U, OR SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE I HAVE EXPERIANCED THIS. JUST LEAVE A COMMENT FOR ME.. YOU AND YOUR LIL ON E ARE IN MY PRAYERS.. ALWAYS AMANDA

Comment by amanda housel — September 20, 2007 @ 12:56 pm

I just found your wonderful site and i’m so relieved. I’ve felt so unbelievably alone over these last several months. They accused me of beating my g

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