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Child Protective Services, CPS, has devastated and destroyed hundreds of thousands of families in America during the last thirty years leaving a trail of broken hearts, broken dreams, and shattered childhoods.

Rather than helping families, government agents have used unconstitutional laws in Juvenile Court to rip children away from their loving parents, break asunder God-given, natural, parent-child bonds, and adopt the children of the grieving out to others who profit financially with large monthly adoption subsidy payments.

Child Protective Services must be stopped! The law that started this, CAPTA, must be repealed. We must work tirelessly to inform the public of this very dangerous travesty of justice. We must keep faith knowing that if there is a God, there is an answer and a way to end this heartache.

Child Protective Services Agents - please come to your senses! Family destruction on false or trivial grounds is wrong, reprehensible, and inhumane.

Fosterers - be aware that for the money you get you are holding much-loved children away from their grieving families while the parents are forced to perform a service plan that is anything but a service to them. I call this hostage holding for the government. This is not kindness - to help misguided government agents destroy family relationships and break loving bonds.

CPS workers and fosterers - I ask that you now let the children of the innocent return to their homes where they are truly valued, adored, and loved by the parents God gave them.

Family rights are God-given rights. And they should not be ignored or postponed. Every moment these loving parents and children spend separated from one another is a torment beyond what anyone should ever have to bear.

It is unworthy of human dignity to allow this terrorism and torture of families to go on without saying something, speaking out, and trying to make a change.

Site mission: To provide information and support for families attacked by Child Protective Services and child welfare agents, especially those families facing false or trivial accusations of child abuse or neglect; and for researchers working to protect natural family rights.






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August 2, 2007

Michigan: “My Name Is Lisa”

I received this a few days ago from a mother on MySpace. She gave me her permission to publish this here:

“I am from Tuscolsa County, Michigan and I have been fighting CPS my whole life and I am only 23 years old. CPS got involved with my family when I was about 5 years old.

“CPS has harassed us for years and in 2003 I became a proud mother of a new baby boy. Of course CPS tracked me down again and took my son on May 19, 2004. CPS came to my home at 7:30 AM and ripped my son right out of my arms.

“I fought them so hard they placed me under arrest until they left my home, then the police officer said he was very sorry and that he never wanted to handle this kind of issue and he let me go, but he told me he was sorry and that he was only doing his job.

“Anyway, I was court ordered to follow the case plans to get my son back. I did everything I was told but I had a caseworker that didn’t like me because I would not play her game, so she worked against me and made up lies about how my son was scared of me, and how I was causing him to become sick. However that’s not true.

“My rights were then terminated December 5, 2005, just before Christmas. How sad. I later appealed my rights before the Michigan Appellant Courts and they agreed to follow the termination, so my rights are terminated, and I still keep fighting and will never give up hope, ’cause that is all I have. I love my son and I miss him so much. He’s my life!!!!!!!!”

Thank you, Lisa, for sharing your story with us.

I hope that Lisa’s son will be returned to her loving arms, and that someone who knows him will see this here and know that he is a wanted, loved child whose mother did everything she could to keep him.

Filed under: CPS, Michigan, Social Workers, United States — Linda Martin @ 1:31 am

Comments (108)

108 Comments »

  1. it so sad but this is exactly what is going on with me. so i only wish you the best.

    Comment by kwanie — August 2, 2007 @ 5:51 am



  2. If you are sure you don’t deserv this , then call Bill tower (Family advocate)
    925-966-8570,or Powell ( 408-553-0200), even if they are in California , they may refer you to some one in michigan
    But yes your statment that they LIED must be true, as I dealt with Cps for two years , but won every single time ,including civil right law suit,
    No one knows how devestating it is to have your children removed unless, one litterly live it .
    We strongly pray to God that your child return to you.
    Hang in there.

    Comment by Sam — August 2, 2007 @ 11:35 am



  3. This must stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Everytime I read another story about a Parents rights being terminted it just make me scream and cry.

    My granddaughter was taken from my daughter at 2 1/2 months old. I have since been able to get her, so I somewhat know what you are going through.

    We will pray for you and your son. I do hope one day you get him back.

    Comment by Diando — August 2, 2007 @ 12:15 pm



  4. I am trying to get my 2 yr old grandaughter so they cannot sell her for a hefty bounty. a child like Rebecca is worth 50,000.00 to them and I will continue to pray to stop them and they’re evil ways God bless All Families struggling with the horrors of CPS Somehow it must get reformed Marliese G-MA

    Comment by Marliese Jamison — August 2, 2007 @ 12:24 pm



  5. 2007dcrally.com

    Comment by Diando — August 2, 2007 @ 12:33 pm



  6. Ms Jamison.
    We pray that Rebecca return to you.
    Please note Rebecca worth to CPS $90000.00 of federal $ for every year they keep her.

    Comment by Sam — August 2, 2007 @ 5:13 pm



  7. Do you really think all CPS workers are out to get you? That is just crazy. I’m sure some CPS worker and the courts just doesn’t like you. I’m sure it have nothing to do with the fact that you abuse/neglected your child….

    Comment by bob — August 2, 2007 @ 5:38 pm



  8. I’m sorry to see that Lisa may not have much more recourse to regain her child. i can say that it is common for families that have history with cps to have more aggressive tactics taken against them than someone who may have never recevied a report. it is also unfortunate that it truly matters what state you live in or even what county in that state as to your resources and treatment provided to you by the cps workers and the court system. i feel adovcacy systems are a good way of getting other perspectives in the courts ear, if the judge is willing to listen.

    Comment by Wendy — August 2, 2007 @ 6:11 pm



  9. Here what I think what DOES NOT MAKE SENSE is…

    She did the case plans as court ordered and did them all…
    why complete the case plans and her parental gets terminated anyways?
    All the requirements to do the case plans is to GET THE SON BACK!

    Hence CPS lied. and she got snookered. She should have got the document proof of completion to show the Judge and showed the Judge she did everything possible to get her son back. I know CPS lied and lied just to have the Baby up for sale or in their care to make money. Just because she was or has history with CPS since she was a child, this is what CPS used against her. “Just because”. It is totally unfair.

    What ever happened to second chances??? I guess in these situations CPS don’t give chances or not all about “helping families”, they are out to get children. Plain and Simple.

    This is what is very disappointing in all of this, because she was told to do the case plans and got snookered anyways. She got a bad Lawyer, was told to bend backwards and sit down and be quiet and lose her baby anyways. It is very disappointing indeed of what CPS is capable of.

    There has to be something to hold CPS Accountable to their “words” and not to take it back by lying to the parent later on in the future. That’s how a con artist works.

    Comment by Frustrated — August 2, 2007 @ 8:14 pm



  10. IN REGARDS TO BOBS COMMENT LOOK I FEEL THAT THIS MOTHER HAS MADE OTHER PARENTS AWARE OF HOW CPS REALLY WORKS AND I FEEL FOR THIS MOTHERS HEARTACHE. AND YES CPS AND THE COURT SYSTEMS ARE OUT TO BREAK UP FAMILYS IN TUSCOLA COUNTY MI I KNOW FRIST HAND CAUSE I HAVE HAD MY OWN SHARE OF THEM AND I HAVE STRUGGLED TO KEEP MY FAMILY TOGETHER BUT I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE TRUE TUSCOLA COUNTY DOSENT CARE ABOUT WHATS IN THE BEST INTREST OF THE CHILD ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY HERE.SO YOU SEE MAYBE YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW BAD IT HURTS TO HAVE YOUR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY UNLESS YOU DEAL WITH IT YOURSELF. HEY MAYBE YOU MADE THAT COMMENT CAUSE YOUR ONE OF THEM CPS SPYS ANYWAY LISA KEEP HOLDING ON TO YOUR FAITH AND KEEP FIGHTING YOUR LITTLE BOY NEEDS TO KNOW YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN UP MY FAMILY WILL KEEP YOU IN OUR PRAYERS AND GOOD LUCK

    Comment by BROKENHEARTED — August 2, 2007 @ 9:56 pm



  11. Come on now, she worked the case plan, had an attorney and the judge still severed her rights??? That doesn’t even make sense. She clearly did not benefit from the services and did not do the whole case plan or she would have gotten her child back. What makes you think she’s telling the truth? How ignorant can all of you be?
    Enjoy wallowing in your self-pity….I’m certain the child is better off not being with his mother……………

    Comment by bob — August 2, 2007 @ 11:06 pm



  12. Bob, your comment shows your ignorance of what is going on in this country. Under most circumstances I’d just explain that parents often do their entire case plans only to be told in court that their children are being given away to others and will never be seen by them again.

    Your last few comments, however, violate this site’s call for compassion. When a parent is hurting, and in extreme pain from separation from a dearly loved child, it is not acceptable to say what you wrote. If you can apologize to Lisa, you can keep your access to posting on this site. Otherwise, I’m banning your participation.

    If you have no compassion, you’re not truly human.

    Comment by Linda — August 2, 2007 @ 11:46 pm



  13. Bob,
    You don’t have children , do you?
    Nothing on earth more devestating than removing your child ,even for one day,
    Have a child, then imagine him being removed, and got back to us.
    By the way child abusers, don’t fight back when when children removed .
    this poor lady did fight back,I hope she go to the supreme court , and got her child back.

    Comment by Sam — August 2, 2007 @ 11:59 pm



  14. bob, thank you very much for sharing your enlightening comments. You must be one of CPS’s goons who get their rocks off reading about this cruel ’system’. Hate to break it to you, but it’s NOT PARANOIA! This wonderful government agency did the EXACT same thing to my family. We completed their case plan and have the papers to PROVE IT! My husband & I didn’t kiss the caseworker’s a$$es and they gave our kids away to my lesbian mother & her controlling ‘partner’. They even stole my newborn baby in March of 2005 without a case! Oh yea, she does bring in 3 grand a month them though! Grow some brain cells and realize that CPS is a totally IMMORAL UNETHICAL entity that is only in it for the money. I’ll continue to keep that poor gal in Michigan in my prayers.

    Comment by Susan — August 3, 2007 @ 12:04 am



  15. Oh my GOD what is wrong with the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!.. why is this going on>? who is behind it all?.. this is truly NAZI STUFF like HITLER HIMSELF is the one behind out own GOEVERMENT!

    Im so sorry for your pain!
    OH MY GOSH THIS JUST ills ME BAD!!

    I will be thinking of you .
    I promie I will

    http://www.dcrally2007.com

    Comment by Angela Hawk — August 3, 2007 @ 10:32 am



  16. CPS REFORM:

    THIS IS YOUR CHANCE

    http://www.PetitionOnline.com/families/petition.html

    SEE:MY ENDORSEMENT #665 & #666

    UCC 1-308
    Marilyn LeBaron

    Comment by Marilyn LeBaron — August 3, 2007 @ 11:23 am



  17. Other endorsements on the Emancipation Proclamation Petition:

    The Child Protection Fixer upper
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?families&1

    They have evil running through their veins: They have a back door we need to find: I call it, for now, a ‘back door adoption agency’.

    Here is why…

    BABY TRAFFICKING

    The Truth About the Foster Care Industry

    POSTED ON MySpace by: http://www.myspace.com/repealthe17th

    False Allegations of drug abuse have been logged against mothers and their newborn infants as a means to place these infants into protective custody. The hospital staff has allowed C.P.S to remove infants (a hospital violation) prior to verification of blood and urine drug screen tests. C.P.S is mandated to secure verification of drug allegations via blood and urine results, prior to removing the newborn infant from the hospital. All cases known to us resulted negative for the mother and the newborn, but these infants were never returned, and were adopted outside of kinship.

    In the past year, the FBI has arrested and imprisoned C.P.S workers who were actively involved in baby trafficking for profit. These C.P.S workers knowingly abducted infants from the hospital where they in turn networked them into legal adoption agencies. Augustus Fennerty, FBI director for Crimes against Children (Washington D.C) can verify this information. (202) 324-3000

    UCC 1-308
    Marilyn LeBaron

    Comment by Marilyn LeBaron — August 3, 2007 @ 11:36 am



  18. HERE IS ANOTHER ”’ BACK DOOR ADOPTION AGENCY ”’ IN DARK, DARK PLACES, AND IN THE HALLS OF ”’ DC ”’.

    CHILD SEX TRADE INDUSTRY

    Southern California FBI District has videotape recorded CPS workers placing foster care children onto planes via LAX, destination Europe for child sex trade industry. This can be verified through Ted Gunderson, (retired) FBI Director Southern California (310) 477-6565.

    SEXUAL VICTIMIZATION IN FOSTER CARE

    For the families in relation to our group in San BernardinoCounty, it has come to our attention while comparing similarities, that approximately half the children in foster care have been molested.

    These children were not sexually abused by their parents, but by the foster fathers or others in the foster home. It was also noted that these foster homes are still operating in the same capacity prior to complaints, without any investigation into these allegations. C.P.S officials were made aware of these accusations by the children, but failed to follow through with a criminal investigation.

    In conclusion, Child Protective Service is nothing more than an “oasis” for child molesters, to make a profit, while at the same time committing a crime, only to be protected by a malignant system that delivers a never ending supply of victims.

    UCC 1-308
    Marilyn LeBaron

    Comment by Marilyn LeBaron — August 3, 2007 @ 11:42 am



  19. If your Children Wrongfully removed by CPS and or Police, and you live in California, or if you even know some one whose children falsely removed by CPS , GOOD KNEWS FOR YOU, CALL Attorney ( ROBERT POWELL)
    408-553-0200 , he helped us sue CPS,and the POLICE, CPS have setteled , but going to trial with the POLICE,

    Comment by Sam — August 3, 2007 @ 2:47 pm



  20. What Bob is not getting the fact that all of us had experienced Services Plan first hand. I was told to do the Service Plan twice…and I was told “it was not good enough”. Must do more. We did 8 years of extensive counselling. Now my son is getting tired of repeatedly therapy. He felt pressured to do it, and does not want to do it anymore. and yet the Worker had the gall to ask him if he wants more counselling! (after 10 years of his life). I was also told that we must complete the services plan then got snookered saying they will put my son in a mental institution instead if I don’t do what CPS asks of me. They are capable of extortion and coercion. Not to mention what they do best is Lying….and fabricating reports. I would hear other families saying they did complete the service Plan but their kids got removed and kept away regardless of what the parents had done endlessly. Why did the Worker tell the parent, “Do this Service Plan and you will get your kid back?” when the Worker KNOW WELL ENOUGH that this means the parent will never get the child back. It just means that the Worker is making money off these “offerings” of Service Plan and tell the parent to “begone”. And never see their kids back. “anyways”. CPS Workers know how to make a dirty deal. just to make the parent be quiet for a while but she knows fully well that there is no chance for the parent to get her child back. “Anyways” when the Worker knows the parent had completed the service Plan, she pulls a fast trick, telling the Judge “Oh your honor, this mother never did finish the service plan or refused to do the service Plan”. Does that sound familiar???

    Comment by Frustrated — August 3, 2007 @ 7:49 pm



  21. Hi frustrated i agree isnt possible that cps could start something like the RODNEY KING INCODENT. What i think cps is doing is trying to cause a civil war between us and our government ithink alot of C.P.S workers needs to see a councelor themselves if you ask me. C.P.S is breeding a lot of anger throughout the whole united states and that is not good. This is what i call C.P.S CASEWORKING PEOPLE SNATCHING. There is alot of child trafficing going on in the whole united states not just my county. Wouldnt be funny if C.P.S turned against each other and left us a lone for once in there abnormal and pathetic life. There nothing but pathalogical liers. I remember the LOS ANGELAS like it was yesterday when those police officers beat RODNEY KING and almost got a away with it untill that riot broke loose. It reminds me what C.P.S what c.p.s is doing to our children and getting away with it its going to happen if there isnt a change i feel another riot comming and C.P.S provoked it if there is one.

    Comment by Johnny — August 3, 2007 @ 8:43 pm



  22. C.P.S workers are sick bastards if you want my imput MARILYN Lebaron

    Comment by pissed off — August 3, 2007 @ 8:55 pm



  23. Hey BOB!!. or is it spelled BOB?

    now i see why the word SOS became a universal language for people who get things BACKWARDS!

    YOU are CRUEL to the CORE BOB!
    and ignorant tosay the least.
    Let me ask you BOB, did you ever get yelled at when growing up and think that CPS has a right to took you away from your Mother?
    Guess what BOB. they gots the POWER of the PEN to do just that today to FAMILIES..

    it is HITLER all over again NAZI crazy SHEER EVIL!

    words of advice BOB and I cant be to nice here being your words are just flat out cruel.

    Get your HEAD out of your A##
    GOD DONT LIKE UGLY!

    why you even come to this sight?
    stupid is what stupid TYPES BOB!

    Comment by Angela Hawk — August 4, 2007 @ 2:47 am



  24. hey lisa I had my rights to my oldest 2 terminated the day i was giving birth 2 my now 2year old & my case woeker had it out for me too, i can really relate with you, im sorry this “protection system” is soooo damn screwed up

    Comment by Michele Cavin — August 4, 2007 @ 4:37 am



  25. hey thanks for everyone support im really greatful.and just so you all know i did fight my hardest but its a losing battle with cps and i could give you all a list of things i have done to keep my child …….
    8 parenting classes
    budgeting classes
    theripy
    phyc evals hey i even protested the court house back in 2005 so you see i have done my case plans and in regards to bob you know i have more commen sence then you and i do love my son more then anything and bob you are such a disrespectful humen and you should be asamed of your self and just remember that the lord is watching you and knows how cold harded you are . anyway people please keep commenting because its very helpful to me and other parents and thank you for all your support

    Comment by lisa — August 4, 2007 @ 6:24 am



  26. hey lisa i know first hand how cps dose thier dirty deed and it’s so wrong. i delt with cps for 7 years the first time, had a good judge return one child, in witch the judge would have returned the other but, the other child case was seperated to custody court and given to the father.the judge went as far as telling the casewrecker to remove herself from the case or she would, then she told me i could sue for what cps did to me but, advised me not to because it would take a long time, she said i should spend all my time with the child because,it was going to take a long time to repair damage that was done. at the time of this case i had a third child cps threated to take this child if the other chid was returned to me. when my child was returned to me after awhile she was starting stablize medicaly and emotionaly, then she started to back slide, then i found out cps was going to her school and pulling into a emty room and basickly bulling her once week, i found this out when social wrecker questioned when my other child was acting normal, talking runing around the house, while the other child would not speak to cps when questioned, i told the cps wercker it’s because she knows who you people are and the child has no idea what’s goiging on.i’m sad to say i had to adopt her ot to her paternal aunt and uncle, so cps would quit abusing her and would not take my other child this was a fear driven on my part because i did not know what else to do. well years latter cps removed this child along with my two youngest, the baby was returned within 3 days, the second child was returned 15 months latter the third child still remains in fostercare,cps is trying to terminate my rights as to her, over a spanking she recieved for smothering her 4 month old brother. i could go on this but threre’s to much, yes bob some people are abused by cps, mostly children are abused by cps the worst abuse perpertraited on chrildren in most cases the department dose most of the child abue to a child removed justly or unjustly. pull your head out of your a** bob and see the clear picture.

    Comment by Christy — August 4, 2007 @ 10:19 am



  27. Hey BOB are you one of them C.P.S NAZI GOONS if you ask me yes for the comment you made. I tell you the truth if C.P.S even dares to fab another case against me and the panny waste judge lets them there will be an early armegeddon way before the real one one of jesus and his return to earth for judgment. There is no f-ing excuse for the child abuse from C.P.S I have away to end all that just with a tree and rope and let the alligators do the rest C.P.S workers are unamerican this needs to end before it it gets out of hand does any one agree with me place a comment. Thank you

    Comment by Johnny — August 4, 2007 @ 10:43 am



  28. This is what C.P.S stands for CHILD PROFIT SERVICES

    Comment by Anti-C.P.S — August 4, 2007 @ 10:59 am



  29. Good news everyone. The 1787 Preamble is an introduction of the (Bill of Rights) constittution that explain the general purpose of our United States Government. The Preamble states that we as the people United States have the right to establish a union of Justice. To ensure the Welfare and Liberty of the United States of America. To the Child Protective Service Agencies are at an uproar of the 4th amendment. The agencies are trying to disclude themselves from the 4th amendment saying it dont pertain to them. Its not the case each State and Federal Angency is all included in the amendment. Its there in plain text. If anyone has any questions on this topic submit a comment.Thank you again Linda for this sight. Im educating myself untill i get an expert attorny to take my case in a class action lawsuit against my local D.H.S

    Comment by Johnny — August 5, 2007 @ 7:54 am



  30. BOB, (maybe I should spell it BOB so he can read it better)….are you the goon from the Stolen Baby video?

    Before you go spouting off all your ignorance, why don’t you, just to show us
    how truly intelligent you are, LIST all the times you’ve had FIRST HAND EXPERIENCES with CPS and how many
    cases you’ve PERSONALLY had to
    endure.

    Then, I’d like for you to show us your PROOF that the courts and CPS are ALWAYS on the up and up. I’m asking
    for PROOF here, not just what you think,
    because if you tell us what you think, I’m
    afraid the rest of us will not be able to
    insult our own intelligence by making you
    think we actually believe you.

    Give us CASE NUMBERS that can be
    verified, oh BOB of the pea brain.

    Ok fellow fighters, if he responds to this
    one, it should be enlightening…

    Comment by stopevilnow — August 6, 2007 @ 10:08 am



  31. The proof is in the Court Case Laws, and you will notice that it states many parents did not finish services or did not complete the services which is a lie, the Workers are just saying that to the Judge. Think about this, it is not only one case law, but hundreds like this one. It has the similar pattern, and has the same results, “did not complete services” or “refused to do services”. Why do they keep saying that? Think about it. We are now seeing in the Court Records, that there are thousands of cases that shows the same pattern of sayings, “did not complete” bla bla….

    Why so many? Are you telling me that most of them thousands did not complete the services, or refused to do them? Why? WHY would they do that? They have to complete the services in order to get their children back. that’s the only way but Workers try their darnest best to avoid that reconicilation by “saying that” in court records so they would make sure the parents had lost their children just so that the children will become production numbers for the agency to sale up for Foster Care/or Adoptions. Either way. Does not matter, as long the CPS Agencies makes the money, they are happy.

    Comment by Frustrated — August 6, 2007 @ 11:53 am



  32. Wow Mr Bob I have readf some dumb stuff in my time.. but my friend you have got to be the most stupid errogant ignorant person I have ever come accross…

    You ever live in care big guy? Ever had your children stolen?

    Many of my friends grew up in care… many of them didn’t make it out alive.

    And the few that have are trying to bring change.. while it’s stupid people like you with your stupid opinion that allow children to die every day in the hands of foster care.

    My lord man…. what is wrong with you?

    Comment by The real BOB AKA Funnel — August 6, 2007 @ 2:18 pm



  33. Bob… dude… you ever been in care?
    The state that foster care is in right now across North America.
    An abusive home beats foster care anyday.
    I have the scars all over my body to prove it..
    I have two disabled hands to prove it…

    You need to go put your head in the sand or something..

    You know why i am alive today BOB.
    Because I escaped care and hit the streets and stayed their for along time..

    Out of 32 kids in my group home.. I knew and grew up with or lived on the streets with. I can count how many are still alive on one hand..

    Comment by Bizzi — August 6, 2007 @ 2:30 pm



  34. DISGUSTING…….

    Comment by Bizzi — August 6, 2007 @ 2:32 pm



  35. GOVERNMENT CARE IS A DEATH SENTENCE…

    Comment by Bizzi — August 6, 2007 @ 2:34 pm



  36. This is a post from a person who was “rescued”

    Re: Freedom what is that?
    « Reply #28 on Today at 3:03pm » [Quote] [Modify] [Delete]
    Silent I just noticed in your picture.. you wear braces?
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    silentmaggie
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    Re: Freedom what is that?
    « Reply #29 on Today at 3:09pm » [Quote] [Modify] [Delete]
    Yeah. My teeth were all crocked from my foster father punching me in the face so many times over the years..

    I asked my worker when I was 17 but when I told her why they were crooked she called me an ungrateful bitch and said I was lying and I never got them…. And I was thrown into secure treatment.
    So I have them now… Every time I looked in the mirror I was reminded by my teeth the beatings I got in foster hell…
    To be honest I like them… But I love metal in my face so i guess I am strange…lol… I will miss them when there gone…

    But I won’t miss the crooked teeth or the memories…

    ^^

    Slowly I am getting my life back that they raped me of.

    I feel guilty about moving on. I have a shrine for my daughter.
    But I think I will be packing most of it up… it just makes me sad now instead of comforting me.

    I don’t need to be reminded of that time in my life… I am free now,
    Not a baby incubator for C.A.S to snatch babies from and sell them..

    You social workers are just horrible people and I hope God has something up his sleeve when you all die… like eternity living in an abusive foster home.. or maybe an eternity of getting raped with a steak knife, like what was done to me in care… while you people all went home to your nice homes and put your kids threw school eat big meals all paid for with the blood of my daughter and the thousands of other kids you psychopaths killed in your totally warped sense of right and wrong.

    One can always hope right?
    « Last Edit: Today at 3:22pm by silentmaggie »

    Comment by Bizzi — August 6, 2007 @ 2:36 pm



  37. F-ing CPS BASTARDS NEEDS GO OUT LIKE YOUR DAUGHTER DID THIS A F-CKED UP GOVERNMENT WE HAVE

    Comment by Pissed off — August 6, 2007 @ 3:03 pm



  38. it’s not the system that is messed up…

    Who runs the system?
    The poor?
    The people?

    The upper-class they hold all the control….

    You know any poor people in government?
    who does CPS/CAS go after..?
    The rich?
    no…. the poor…. the perfect victims…

    And just like Bob here demonstrated nobody believes or cares not the parents not the children… all they want is their pay checks…
    The rest of us are expendable to them…
    not much changes in 1000 years.

    Comment by Funnel — August 6, 2007 @ 11:23 pm



  39. I haven’t heard both sides of the story, so I cannot make a judgment.

    However, in order to provide accurate comments, it is important to know what was precipitated CPS involvement in the first place.

    I am involved in the system myself, it’s been very frustrating …

    Comment by Amy — August 10, 2007 @ 7:32 am



  40. I have come here because people keep saying things like there is no reason cps would be in you life if you didnt do something in the first place. so i have been trying so desperately hard to figure out why this is. let me start with cps i believe that they are over worked my caseworker supervisor says they have 80 cases and they are only suppose to have 26 and they dont make much. the caseworkers dont make that much money and they have so many pressures from supervisors and parents and negative publicity that they just dont care anymore if they ever cared and find it easier to neglect a case. on top of the money it is easier for them not to help because they dont have to check on the kids and make sure they are safe and find out whats wrong or anything. second the phone call anybody can make a report. how about in my case where the greatest hospital in the world didnt follow simple procedure and have my son evaluated by a specialist in his area of disease and misdiagnosed his condition. therefore making a false report to cps and when i confront them on this you know what they say oops!

    Comment by kwanie — August 10, 2007 @ 8:12 am



  41. kwanie:

    Even getting them to say “Oops” is a victory. 78% of all CPS investigations are begun by “mandatory” reporters such as those in the medical profession, school teachers, even Pastors.

    There is no other agency charged with investigating, but CPS. Reports that don’t get screened out, HAVE to be investigated.

    BUT…most cases are “opened” on the basis of “supcicions” of case workers, many of whom don’t have college degrees, or degrees in social work. In my state, I think it is something like 30 hours of class & field training, then you are responsbile for making life altering decisions based on your perception.

    THIS is what the Public fails to understand, because CPS only deals with about 3% of the population in the first place. Not a big number, and quite frankly, like you said, most have a benign view of CPS as a necessary entity (which I admit, sadly, it is), that is ONLY there to save children.

    Unless and until you’ve had your dignity shredded, your family ripped apart and your reputation slandered by false allegations by these people, you simply cannot understand.

    Since virtually NO parent ever expects to find themselves in the corss hairs of a CPS investigation, they are ignorant of the laws. The case workers count on this very thing, and what happens is that in trying to tell the truth and claer the case, parents “cooperate” and end up being CPS best witness against themselves.

    No one wants a real child abuser to go free, but just by the Government attempting to define what “abuse” is, creates the problem.

    I (and many others here) have seen families decimated, jobs lost from the post traumatic stress, marriages terminated by CPS ultimatum, for such things as cock roaches being seen in the kitchen, a child with a bruise that happened accidentally, false charges of sexul abuse because some Forensic Psychiatrist twisted the words of a frightened 4 year old, a child not being the “correct” weight for his age and height, dirty diapers, messy homes, bad Psychology, and even an anonymous complaint that the “children weren’t seen out of doors enough”.

    Once you find yourself in this nightmare, your commonc sense tries to tell you that no one in their right mind would believe these things. That is precisely the problem. Most of these people aren’t in their right minds. They have jobs which demand that they know better than you what is right for your children.

    And they have all the money, lawyers, therapists, time, and power in the universe.

    Comment by K. — August 11, 2007 @ 1:44 am



  42. When a system is run by people.. it’s prone to corruption, greed, power as anything else in this world.

    The biggest irony when you think about it is..

    The same people who are “capable of anything” and can hurt their children are the same people that can become foster parents, social workers..etc… it’s just a matter of who gets to be on what side pointing the finger and making money.
    Luck decides that…

    Anything that rips families apart and erodes the family can’t be allowed to continue.

    The main thing is..
    It’s a whacked out witch hunt.. where wanna be a hero can turn someones life like mine into a nightmare that never ends until you escape and face the streets alone at the age of 13.

    I suffered a hell you could never even imagine… because my parents were poor…
    Not because they hurt me. I tried to tell the workers that they did not ever hurt me.

    They told me I was safe. Then sent me to hell.
    Foster care is slavery.

    If you were never in care or if you have never had the system target you then you are the last person that should ever comment about foster care or think you know anything about.

    You what they say about those who assume…..

    Comment by Bizzi — August 12, 2007 @ 5:23 am



  43. CPS in Tucson AZ stole my newborn son-did all thier bullshit dance-waste of time.
    CURIOUS
    how many of you that lost your children to
    cPS without getting them back were newborns-especially healthy desirable newborns. I think my child was bought and sold because my older children are still with me.

    Comment by krystal clark — August 18, 2007 @ 9:03 am



  44. Krystal, I am sorry … but I think you are absolutely right. Infants are in demand, and caseworkers know they are easily adopted out.

    Comment by Linda — August 18, 2007 @ 2:29 pm



  45. I’m baffled.

    Let me explain…

    I’ve dealt with CPS once. They were called by the police after my ex-husband nearly beat me to death in the prescence of our two-year-old son. When the police arrived on the scene my son was covered in my blood and hysterical at the events he had just witnessed.

    CPS paid a visit to the hotel room I was staying at the following day. She came, she sat down, she asked what happened. I explained. She monitored my son’s behavior & saw he was happy, well fed and in no danger with me. She stayed about an hour and then explained to me why CPS is required in these situations to investigate.

    They have not “bothered” me since.

    My question for all you “suffering” parents is that all of you leave out why CPS is involved in your lives in the first place? I find it hard to believe they just randomly picked you to “harass.”

    Comment by Vanessa — August 22, 2007 @ 10:45 am



  46. To Vanessa:

    You are very fortunate your son wasn’t taken from you, due to the trauma he witnessed. You are also fortunate you had an officer and cps worker who decided your son was safe, even though his life had just been turned upside down.

    Most parents do not voluntarily want cps in their lives. Those who do have asked them for help with their wayward children, only to have the system turn on them.

    The reason why I was investigated seven times: I homeschool. Some busybody with nothing better to do decided she didn’t like this fact, and wanted to make my life a living hell. For over a year and a half, I had to deal with a “caseworker” who tried her darndest to pin the charges of neglect on me. It didn’t work, because each report was unfounded.

    You may be baffled, but there are people out there who enjoy the sufferings of others. There are also caseworkers who get a kick out of making their “clients” miserable.

    Get to know people and why their lives are in turmoil. Proactively help those who need it.

    Comment by Dawn — August 22, 2007 @ 3:42 pm



  47. “My question for all you “suffering” parents is that all of you leave out why CPS is involved in your lives in the first place? I find it hard to believe they just randomly picked you to “harass.”

    Well to start it might have been the fact your child could stand on his own. So I gather he was not one of the types of children in demand.

    Your child in their eyes might have been traumatized… in other words tainted. Those types of children more often then not get “returned” and a new one is requested.
    Welcome to the world or foster care and adoption.
    Consider your child lucky he was not a in demand ‘baby’.

    Comment by Bizzi — August 22, 2007 @ 6:29 pm



  48. Vanessa, my newborn infant was taken because her father battered me. They kept her eight months and I figured out a way to fight in court to get her back. I’m sharing this information with other people on this site. Can you blame me?

    By the way, I’m pretty sure my battering wasn’t half as bad as yours. I was barely touched and nowhere near death. While my child was in foster custody I discovered another case where a Hispanic woman was battered so badly she ended up in the hospital with broken bones. Did they take her children, including one about the same age as mine? The answer is NO. They took my blonde blue-eyed baby girl instead and tried to keep her. Guess which child was in demand by prospective adopters.

    That’s how I learned how subjective the decisions of CPS agents are. They pick and choose who they want to harass. As Bizzi said above, welcome to the world of foster care and adoption!

    Comment by Linda — August 22, 2007 @ 8:17 pm



  49. I’m so very sorry this has happened to you too. My son and daughter were taken from me 2 years ago and placed with my ex husband (their father) but who is an extreme alcoholic and very abusive. My heart goes out to all that this has happened to

    Comment by Mel — September 2, 2007 @ 2:35 pm



  50. i know how u parents feel about childreni lost my son in 1993 due to down syndrome he was real sick and i spent all my time with him in the hospital.he was there for three months and then sent home with us to take care of he was on all kinds of meds and he was on oxygen and he had all kinds of machines hooked up on him and the hospital told me it was me and my husbands turn to take care of him and we had him home for twenty four hrs and he passed away in his daddys arms and now i have neglect put on me but never was convicted of anything i love my kids i have two beautiful daughters with me that i never lost i dont understand cps why do they do this crap to people that honestly love there children..well i sure do and thats why i want to know why im on a central registry i could never hurt a child i love children thank u for taking the time to listen to me

    Comment by rose — September 9, 2007 @ 10:56 pm



  51. The system is painful and we all need lots of support to make it through try on our own to fight this cps system, but there has to be ways.Proven facts that will stop these people who take our kids. We have our amendments and constitutional rights. How do we use them, and take our children back after being Ripped away Forever?

    Comment by richard — September 10, 2007 @ 2:25 am



  52. Lisa,
    Unlike Bob and some of the other people talking about things they obviously know NOTHING about, I empathize with you completely. I know your pain and suffering. My daughter was ripped from my loving arms too.
    Once we were a happy family with a happy future, now we exist in suffering and agony. It has been three years and we still fight. My husband is dying from cancer and probably will not live to see the return of his little girl. Sometimes I don’t think I can live another day with the injustice and loss. Clearly, Bob has no concept of a pain so deep and torturous that never, not even for a second is there any relief. Or what it feels like to have your joy, your ability to laugh, smile or ever feel good again taken from you for no “real” reason, other than the fact that children are the commodity that keeps CPS wheels turning. What most people do not understand and cannot accept is, children taken from their homes generate money and justify social workers, county counsel, judges, therapists, attorneys and all the “service providers” salaries and prove how much the “service” these “humanitarians” provide is needed. (In their minds anyways) That is the lie they want the people who don’t know what we know, to believe. And as long as people close their eyes and ears to the reality of what they are really doing, they will continue to get away with their crimes against the American family.
    Children left alone to live, grow and prosper with the families they were born (God given) to turns no profit for these criminals. So, if there is no “legitimate” reason to kidnap a child, they can just make one up and it does not need to be legitimate either, anything will do. It is ALL about MONEY, make no mistake about that. Good ole American Capitalism at it’s worst but as long as it is generating the almighty buck no one seems to notice the lives being destroyed.
    I do not have words strong enough to convey my disgust and contempt for those who’s existence is eeked from the suffering and tears of innocent children and their families! I can think of no other group in recent history more feared or with the kind of absolute power enjoyed by CPS, other than the Nazis and some dictatorships!
    Bob, would you think you deserved it if some idiot social worker and moron deputy broke down your door in the night while you and your child slept peacefully, for no other reason than an anonymous call from someone using CPS as a weapon in their sick game of revenge? I doubt it! More likely you would think you went to sleep and woke up in 1940 something Germany!
    I used to love my country and would have died for my country if need be. I believed in all the ideals I thought my country stood for.
    Insult to injury is, when they stole my child, they stole my faith in my country and government, my patriotism, my American pride. They stole my belief in a fair and just system, the very core of who and what I am and left an empty, broken, betrayed, used, shell of a person. I know now that all the pretty words they teach us about the USA are just words; truth, justice, honor, equality, impartial, fair, it is all a big joke. The unscrupulous, arrogant, self serving, creeps who make a mockery out of our system, using it for their own gain and selling out the American family, as well as the integrity of our country must be stopped!
    When the people decided to create CPS they did it because they wanted to help children and protect them from evil. How did something created for all the right reasons become so adulterated that it is no longer recognizable? When did it happen?
    It happened while no one was looking and if you think about it, it really should not come as much of a surprise. History shows us again and again that man is highly corruptable and every single time any one man or group has unimpeachable power over others, that power will be abused. What other agency has the last word like CPS or uses the cloak of secrecy like they do? None! Not even the president has that kind of power! Apparently, we thought evil had a conscious…….it would not use children…………DAH! The short term answer, I believe, is remove their ultimate power, make them accountable to another agency. Just like police have internal affairs, CPS should answer to someone.
    I don’t pretend to be a perfect person or even a perfect parent, I have made my mistakes and learned from them as we all do. What I do know is my child is the most important thing in the world to me. I waited all my life for her arrival (I was 36 when she was born) she always comes first in my heart, my mind, and in my life. I never knew a love so deep or so awe inspiring! My child, in my care was happy, healthy, had everything and more, and was loved and nurtured more in the almost 4 years I had her than most people are loved and nurtured in their whole lives. It just doesn’t make sense that I would neglect or abuse my child and she certainly never reflected anything of the kind!
    Now, she is confused, sad, told we do not love her, that we did nothing to get her back and allowed zero contact with us or any other family members. She suddenly has asthma and has been exposed to TB, WHICH SHE WILL CARRY FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE!!!!!!!!!! These are the things I know about!!!

    All I have left to say to you Bob is judge not harshly lest ye be judged harshly and I hope you never know the excruciating pain Lisa, myself and countless others suffer every second of our existance at the hand of our own government.
    I pray that you and others like you will educate yourselves and stand with us in our quest to stop the atrocities of CPS.
    May God bless and keep our children and bring them safely home and may He give us the courage and the strength to do what must be done. Never, ever, ever, give up, no matter what!!!
    Don’t forget them and move on because it is easier! Keep their rooms waiting for them, pictures of them everywhere, talk to them, keep a journal of your time apart so they will be able to read what you did and what you went through for them. Keep them in your heart, love them always.
    Someone once told me something that has been invaluable to me in my unbearable existance. They said, “The evil that separates your physical bodies has no control over your mind. No one can stop you from being together in your minds, your dreams, your thoughts. You can go anywhere and do anything together!”
    I spend every minute I can with my baby and know one day we will be together again, whether in this lifetime or eternity, “we” will be.
    Rest assured, God knows what He is doing so as long as we trust Him and never give up, I believe the suffering will end and the evil will be cast out.
    God bless us all.

    Comment by Pamela Petersen — September 13, 2007 @ 10:35 pm



  53. Ok.. I only got about a 1/4 of the page down before I got sick & tired of seeing all the nasty comments about CPS… I have to tell you, I dont work for CPS, but I do work for a company that works with CPS… & FIRST and formost, I am sorry for anyone that has had a negative experience with CPS. If you have been wrongly accused, BUT I work with familys EVERYDAY who have gotten their children taken away, I have worked with familys that have LITERALLY BEATEN their child up and shoke them soo bad that she has shaken baby syndrome, or another one, is a young mother and father, that has 2 kids and neither one of them were working, their kids were starving, and you kno what the mom was giving her children?!?!?! SUGAR WATER WITH RED FOOD DYE!!!! What is all of that about? I am the rehabilitation part of it, but I have to say that NOT ALL CPS people are BAD, and I think that people like the ones Ive just explained to you, deserve to have their children taken away, if they cant take care of them. Thats my opinion.

    Comment by Confused & Irritated — September 13, 2007 @ 10:59 pm



  54. To “Confused & Irritated” – I’m glad you’re reading this site so you can see the rest of the story. Read the post right before yours.

    I agree that some people need to be educated about how they must treat their children. And I know some people shouldn’t have their children at home at all.

    The problem is that CPS is taking a good idea and turning it into a nightmare for a lot of loving and viable families that may need some help, but not the total destruction and devastation that CPS intervention causes. CPS is like a beast that continuously needs more to feed on. When it can’t get truly abusive families, it picks on families with marginal problems that should not be handled in the same traumatic way.

    Not only that, there are insidious internal flaws in the way these cases are handled in juvenile courtrooms. DUE PROCESS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE NOT HONORED! Parents in juvenile court don’t get the same constitutional safeguards that CRIMINALS do!

    Not only that, but many children in the system have family members willing to take them in but Kinship Care rights are not being honored by social welfare agents. It is a CRIME against humanity to destroy so many families. It is traumatic and devastating for the children themselves, who are often put on strong psychotropic drugs to control their PTS (post traumatic stress).

    Comment by Linda — September 14, 2007 @ 7:49 am



  55. I have lived in foster families where i was used for child porn and beating to a pulp…

    You keep working with them and collect your pay check.

    Here do something useful and pass this along Confused & Irritated… help someone for a change… you can’t feed ex victims of CPS agencies (Namly those of us that are stuck into these places as children the lines of B.S and think you know something about what is going on in the system. Go buy your kids some prozac…

    Please read this and pass it along.

    If you get this email or you see this posted somewhere pass it along and post it where you can. Foster kids are very well kept away from the publics eye. if you can post this on a streetlight.. or a garbage can or a known panhadeling spot.. or a youth shelter or drop in…

    We can let them know they are not alone.

    Hey! I want a little of your time…
    I was in care myself. Now in telling you this… I am am hoping I can give you some information I have and you can give me some information you have.

    And if your not or never have been in foster care and become offend after reading this here is a email address 2quarters@apayphone.ca
    Go tell someone who cares.

    We created this site in the hopes we can get you to break some rules. have a little fun and make sure you are where you are supposed to be rather then where a bunch of opinionated dumbfucks think you should be. Now believe it or not their is a charter of rights that applies to you. That says you have the right to both your parents where as all possible.

    So guess what that means? Unless your parents are DEAD or tried to kill you or you REALLY want to take your chances with a bunch or strangers that you see killing others like yourself on tv every other day… then you need to listen very carefully to what I am telling you.

    Now before reading I need to know if your a man woman or a chump…

    First question….

    Do you think that being a T.V gangster rapper is cool? (Don’t get me wrong I love the music, but they are fuckin losers for the most part they sing about the ghettos etc and thug life then roll up in their pimped out rides to their houses in hollywood, Wow my hero!)

    If your answer is no, continue to the next question…

    Second Question….

    You think a woman should be refferad to woman or as a bitch? Or a man as a paycheck.
    If your answer is bitch or paycheck, then your probably a piece if shit anyways and I don’t want to know anything from you or about to…

    If your answer is woman then we are good to go and onto the next question.

    Third Question…..

    Are you a gentleman or a low life? Please be honest…..

    If your answer was a low life then please scroll down to the very bottom and read the last section.

    If your answer was a gentleman then move onto the next question…

    Last Question…

    You wanna be with your family and have a normal life where if your parents do abuse them you can hold them accountable when you get older?

    This right of your gives you alot of power. And if enough of you get a real lawyer with some heart and some balls and is not corrupt, you can get alot of money to get threw college and build a life for yourselves with. Becuase the Government and Society as a whole has breached your charter of rights. Fuckin HARDCORE.

    But see the kicker is you have to hold them accountable…
    Now you know those people that rip others off, lie con manipulate, start romors about people and how the popular people can turn a group of people on someone who doesn’t deserve it?

    Well I have some pretty shit news for you. Becoming an adult does not mean these things will change.. In fact if you take a close look our counties and their mentality is based on it.

    Scary shit hu?

    Well your a victim of these stupid fuckin morrons. And you should not be in care.

    If your parents beat you and stuff wouldn’t you like to see them do jail time and not get to escape being your parents? You love them. Something I have leaned from being a piece of shit youth myself when I was young (yes you heard me right) is that love beats all. Love conquers all. I know that sounds cheezy and shit but.. when you get older if you don’t figure this out your gonna be miserable and turn out just like them.

    And people will one day think and be saying the same thing about you.

    The would is full of fucking assholes and about 90% of them work for the government and the post office. So it’s pointless to try to deal with both.

    But a Lawyer he can speak their bullshit language… and given the right lawyer could make giving your own wife a flower illegal…

    Don’t ask me how because I don’t speak bullshit myself. Was never good at it. But I am sure since you are in care reading this you have sat in a juvenile detention center or court room so you know what I am talking about..

    The one person says this blah blah and starts quoting numbers and sugsections…. etc etc etc..

    Well their reffering to this book they call the law that keeps track of all the bullshit they make up in court as they go along to get their own way or so that their friends and business friends can get their own way and do what ever they want to anyone they want when ever they so feel like it..

    Now why a lawyer can help… is well since these presidencies which is what the crap info they are reffering to when they say “I want to make a refferance to this court matter” blah blah vs blah blah.

    Now the lawyer can find cases where these fuck tarts have already won an argument just like to OUR own.

    Now you would think that just because identical types cases would have the same result..

    Not true when it run by a bunch of goofy looney toons…
    Given a corrupted judge or a raciest judge or god knows who depending the circumstances of that individual. Or a drunk lawyer or a coked out lawyer.. Coke, prescriptions medication are drugs.. and if you in foster care you better get to know them real well you will be surrounded by them or on about 6 different kinds of them depends what cold hearted piece of shit is running the show..now and to know only this, if you do that shit you become even stupider then most the people around you… and eventually… end up dead or something or with brain damage swimming in a pile of your own saliva having a talk with some other poor loser like you…

    Cold shit hu?

    Well because of these same stupid people this is the way it is.

    Now if you check that charter it says where as ever possible.

    Now does not say where as ever people think it’s possible.

    If your parents beat you and you want to stay something is wrong with you and you need help.

    You know how you always have to be able to prove that your telling the truth… with some kinda proof? Well guess what they can be held by those same standards. And infact what is happening to you right now is criminal and against your charter of rights.

    Corrupt government and stupid greedy fuckin retards do not over power that charter with their opinions based on their own parents touching them funny and what not.

    In the medical world they call that self projection.

    I know with all those drugs you kids are on some of this might not be getting threw that cloud of medicated shit floating around in your brain forever changing it. Yes they are altering your brain.. with drugs …

    Remember the commercials “Don’t do mind altering drugs” etc etc?, it was said for a reason.
    Now the same assholes who breached your rights are pumping you so full of drugs I am not surprised some of you like living in care.

    We will see if your still singing that same song a few years from now.. or if you have to wear a necklace around your neck with your name and number because your brain shorted out because of all the drugs.

    if you succeed thew foster care right on we wanna hear from you too maybe whatever it was they did do right we can make them do it all the time once they stop snatching children for no reason and forcing you to stay with 5 other kids at a time in places you know nobody gives a shit about you..

    If they did then like your parents they would be doing it for free.

    Love is all that matters.

    last Section

    Someone told me that when I was a piece of shit brain washed product of foster care and it got threw it took years and years but it got threw. When I say peice of shit.. I done things worse then you will ever do.. AL Capone was my hero.. And ask the Ottawa police…

    The only thing they ever got me for was some fake weed out of the back of a high times magazine.. that somehow end up turning real for my court date. Trust me police officers will never be your friends and you can not trust them ever. Well if your a foster kid or your parents are poor. The rest of you are fine police mess with you and your parents will sue the shit out of them. I was as bad as they came. I choose to be that way. Well I didn’t so much choose it as I didn’t know how else to be. Foster care fucks you up takes away your humanity and turn you into an animal and it’s not your fault.

    It’s their fault… they need to be held accountable for their actions.
    Nothing on this planet gives these jerks the right to subject you to possible abuse neglect, torment psychological abuse, sexual abuse like foster care does.

    These people stole you from your parents. That is wrong and the only reason they say it’s right is because it’s their jobs. See what i am getting at. Everyone can change for the better.

    ANYONE.

    Including you.

    Those of them who were adopted and are like “my adoptive parents were great you guys are morons..”

    They are not 100% sure they should not have been taken in the first place and have not even checked….

    And out of their own irresponsibility and fear to face the truth you and I have been allowed just like others and god know how many suffer or end up dead and even dismembered… locked in a cage and starved to death.

    The only people that can help you in this situation… is you. And the people that surround you. And as you can see they didn’t give a flying fuck what happens to you. And the very few are powerless to actually help you because of the other fuckin idiots. It just sucks it’s so hard to tell them apart.

    Your government or even trying to talk to them is a complete waste of time they have to be the most biggest group of corrupted self centered hippocrate goofs that ever walked the earth.
    And they are of no use to you.. you will find this out on your own.
    it’s up to you to change how your story goes….

    Even I am so limited in what I can do to help. I only wish I knew then what I know now so I will try to share this in hopes you will get up and give your government and captors a swift kick in the balls.. and go home….

    We can make this happen but we need your help….

    We will help you how ever we can…

    This site and forum is yours tell your truth and end the B.S truth your kidnappers tell..

    Intelligence is not something that differs from person to person. We all have the capability to be great minds…
    It’s how bad it’s been degraded with other peoples opinions and not actual fact (which is sorta equal to brain washing when you put some thought into it.) and your willingness to learn.

    Even some kid who could barely read write spell or talk could become a threat to these losers. So just imagine what you can do…
    If you got a pair then already your more of a man or woman then the people who are currently in power….

    Keep that in mind….

    In this world their is a serious shortage of heart and courage and good people…. because their are so little of us we have to fight 100% harder to accomplish our goals….

    It just takes some balls…. Ya got a pair?
    http://www.sarniassmokinggun.org

    Comment by Bizzi — September 15, 2007 @ 3:05 pm



  56. Still Confused & Irritated?
    Here is a video to help clear up your confusion…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK99UKm6SyA

    Sorry I can’t help you with being irritated the truth tends to do that to people.

    Comment by Bizzi — September 15, 2007 @ 3:17 pm



  57. Confused & Irritated,
    In cases like the ones you posted about yeah they need some help big time no doubt. Some people don’t know any better and need to be taught. That from what I understand is what you are there for. I have a woman who comes from an agency simular to yours weekly to my home. Time after time she states “I don’t know what I’m doing here” She comes at about 4pm on Wed every week stays for about an hour. When she gets her the kids haven’t come home yet from school so we talk. She says that she goes to some homes where the children don’t even know what toilet paper is, are filthy, spit on her, stab her with penciles, bite her. No doubt those families need her help. It seems like she enjoys coming to our home where my kids are friendly to her, talk to her, are clean, offer her a drink, etc. She loves some of the creative problem solving skills I use for when my kids don’t act as they should. She on several occasions stated to the cps worked that she doesn’t see much of a need for services yet she still has to come when she could be helping somebody that doesn’t have it together. She also has seen me feed my kids dinner meat with at least 2 sides, she has seen the kids have snacks and one day my 11 year old was playing around with the very looong receipt from the grocery store and asked me what my weekly food bill was and that one was $186 so they are getting fed.
    Why is she there because my boyfriends ex wife, in her attempt to gain custody of the daughter she abandoned to go off with her new boyfriend, decided to call cps everytime she lost on the family court level. CPS eventually decided to open a case after first not opening one at all. They have tourtured and tourmented our family ever since. They placed my boyfriends daughter with her mother. They took her from a home she was doing well in, was not neglected or abused, was doing well in school, and was basically happy and placed her in a home where she sees her mom get beat, is told her dad is bad, gets fed things like cottage cheese and chips for dinner, spends most her time in daycare, and has been so mentally and emotionally abused I don’t know how to handle the situation if we do manage to get her back. She is also wetting her pants at school now.
    So it would apper that cps may have made a ooops! here but they won’t admit it. They jumped too fast with out doing the proper investigation. That is what I’m against not situations where clearly there is a need. Some kids do need the help and I support that I just don’t support some of the tactics they use to make something that isn’t true stick. That is where the problem lies.

    Comment by Debbie — September 16, 2007 @ 5:20 am



  58. The other part of the problem lies in the idea that that the government (upper-class) would think that being abused in foster care is better then being abused at home.

    out of 32 kids I grew up with and knew in care I can’t count those of us alive today on one hand while everyone argues about the nature of foster care.

    And the biggest problem lies in the fact most of them are dead and can’t share their stories..

    All we have are the stories (lies) the Government (Upper-class) feed to the public.

    The dead children should speak louder then anyone alive should.

    But when corruption and profit are the guiding light the powers to be….

    The children died for nuthing….

    Comment by Bizzi — September 17, 2007 @ 2:44 am



  59. * I can’t count those of us alive today on one hand while everyone argues about the nature of foster care.*

    I ment to say I CAN count them on one hand…

    Comment by Bizzi — September 17, 2007 @ 2:46 am



  60. Until the system is fixed, everyone of you who work for it are living off the blood of dead children… dispite the little good you might be doing….

    I hope your proud…..

    Comment by Bizzi — September 17, 2007 @ 2:47 am



  61. Here’s more accusation’s that I hope people have the sense to use good judgement when they call CPS and make false alligations……
    Just say someone I know was attacked verbelly yesterday by her Landlord… and told she was evicted from her apt.
    This person has faithfully paid her rent on time for the past year–minus a month…. which is’nt due yet…which will be the end of the lease….
    This person was sitting on her own
    patio… letting her children… enjoy the outside….
    The Landlord came strolling by and sew her sitting out there…. and began spitting out accuasations toward this young woman…
    The young woman was drinking a coke in a cup…. and Yeah, I know smokeing is not good, But, the young woman had quit for 8 months… and was doing real good… But, anyone knows sometimes you wand up back smokeing…. any way…. she’s been smokeing the past week a couple of ciggerets , ….. roll your own kind……it’s a lot cheaper…. then buying a pack…
    So she was sitting there rolling a ciggeret..and the Land lord saw her and she yelled up at this young woman, Come down here and smoke your dope in front of me….Come down here and let me see you smoke it…..
    This young lady was shocked…
    Then the woman yelled up to her, I’m sick of seeing your face…..get inside…. I’m tired of your loitering….
    Excuse me?,S he pays her rent, and never misses a month….and she can’t sit outside on her patio?????
    The Landlord was badgering her…..
    and the young woman had done nothing do deserve these attacks, from the Landlord…….
    The Landlord went, I have a mind to call CPS on you……
    Excuse me? For what????
    Then the Landlord goes your evicted……
    For what? Paying your rent on time and not missing a month???
    Sitting on your patio??????
    The young woman just said ,yes mam and went in side ….
    This Landlord was antanogizeing this young woman…..and she had no reason to attack her……
    From what I understand, she is on a rampage and is evicting a lot of the tenants at these Apts….. Some aren’t paying their rent……and some maybe she has good reason too……
    But, she had no reason to attack and evict this young woman, or make such accusations….. nor threaten to call CPS….For what?
    This young woman, was doing nothing that warrented a call to CPS…nor to be evicted….
    What is wrong with some people???
    What makes some people so mean and hurtful toward others????
    Did the woman have a bad day and had to have some one to vent her anger at?????
    And the young woman just happen to be the target , because she happen to be sitting out side????
    Now this young woman has to look for another place to live, with her children, and have a hard time trying to rent with an eviction over her head…….
    All though she has’nt gotten a paper to say she is…..
    People can be so dang cruel!
    The young woman had been trying to make a good rentle history and have a good reference to give, so when she moved, she would be abel to move into a better Apt. complex and area….
    Her credit had been distroyed by her ex husband….and she had gotten a divorce…. and was trying to start a new life for her and her kids…….and building her credit history…….
    So much for the Landlady…. and her falsh accuassions……..
    I hope the Landlady slept well that night…….
    And I hope she get’s rid of all the crack heads that live in her apt. complex…. and all the dead beats that are sticking her for her rent……..
    And all the neglectful parents that allow their little kids to run around the Apts…… with no supervision…. and no one looking out for them…..
    Because this young woman never lets her kids out of her site, and does’nt let them outside with out supervision, namely herself.
    And I hopethe Landlord
    is happy getting rid of all the dead beats that roam around her apts. and loiters….

    But, she had no reason to attack this young woman!
    That young woman was going to move out of that run down Apt. complex any way!

    Comment by Dottie Hashman — September 18, 2007 @ 8:01 pm



  62. Thats the upper-class for you…
    It’s the same no matter where you go. One has to wonder about the future… and the tension mounting between the rich and the poor, and what will come of it.

    Rest assured I know who’s side I am on.

    Comment by Bizzi — September 20, 2007 @ 6:07 am



  63. I was falsely accused years ago, case eventually closed but it destroyed my life. My joy at being a mom was taken away. My rights were violated, my entire life was turned inside out, my privacy was invaded. I never knew for sure who accused me but I was going through a divorce at the time. It could have been my soon-to-be ex-husband’s girlfriend, or one of his family members. I lost 20 pounds the first month after CPS knocked on my door because I was so ill with worry that I couldn’t eat. It felt like every bite would choke me. I made the mistake of not consulting an attorney. I felt, like so many of you, that since I was innocent I didn’t need a lawyer. Wrong! One thing good that came out of it was that later on, a friend had the same thing happen to her, anonymous call to CPS stating that she beat her child, social worker at her door, you can all picture the scenario. She knew what had happened to me so I was the first person she called. The first thing I told her was to call a lawyer immediately. Over the next several months, I was truly able to reach out and help her as she dealt with threats from social workers to remove her child (they didn’t) if she didn’t agree to a “family plan.” I basically told her how I had coped and what I had done once I realized that CPS was out to get me no matter what I did. Her case was eventually closed, but she was so traumatized that she quit a very good job and moved, with her son, to another state.

    Comment by Judy — October 26, 2007 @ 1:54 pm



  64. hi all my name is amber and i have been figting cps ever since 1992 and on and off since then recently cps came to my home in 2004 2 months after i had my 4 baby which in jan 2005 they ripped him from my arms stating i had starved him which was a lie they maintained my oldest 3 in my home as long as i had done the case plan which i did i even did a class i didnt need and the worker i had was against me everytime she came out to my home she claimed my home was dirty and it wasnt and she also made up lies against me well in oct of 2005 i had got my baby returned to me and was doing very well till when christams came my ex husband showed up at my door with a paper from his parole agent stating he could have a vist with his children which he didnt even know where i had lived but i looked on the court papers and low and behold the courts did not keep my address confidentiual like they were suppsoed to well i called cps office it was closed i called the sherriffs dept they said aint nothing they could do just to let him have his visit so i did well i was so sick that i was throwin up all day and when i was in the bathroom he sexually molested my daughter which i didnt find out till march of 2006 when my daughter told me so the morning after she told me i made a doctors appointment for her but she didnt let them check her she clammed up so i attempted again 4 days later but she did the same thing i had called my case worker and reported it and the police … a friend came from north carolina came to help me and cps made up false things about him and he was just there to help us get through this he was innocent in it all… cps had me admit my oldest son into a behavorial health clinic due to all this he bacame balimeic and so forth his grades went down hill.. on my 23 2006 i had to go to the e r du to a severe medical condition that could have killed me my niece was babysitting my babys and i got a call that cps and a dputy were there and i told her they didnt have my permission to go inside my home that they had to wait tilli got home but they entered anyways they claimed my baby had burnmarks on him which he didnt they talked to my other 3 kids alone and they werentsupposed to they had bribed my kids into lying i found out from my oldest son.. when i went to court they had used all this against me and the fact that i was a battered wife .. they even said i was a druggie and i have never did any type of drugs in my life they made me quit college i couldnt work i wasnt allowed to have a relationship with anyone cause it made it worse… they wrongfully removed my kids with out evidence and due to false allegations and accusations.. they terminated my parental rights after i had did all they wanted and soon my babys will be adopted out and as for my oldest hes in a group home wanting to come home like hes told the judge and cps but i am doing counsling and parenting to get an icpc done that they were supposed to do before all this happend…. i am not giving up on my kids for nothing… since my kids have been away from me i am on antidepressants i have been sick dont hardly eat and also since this my mom has gotten ill and she is also keeping her faith….. my son has ran away and came to my job when i was in calif i had to take him back when he begged me not to me and my mom havent seen or talked to my youngest 3 since they terminated my rights i got told by many attorneys that i got done wrong and that i can sue so thats what im planning… i know what all of you are going through and i pray for all of us and the children daily

    Comment by amber yousif — November 4, 2007 @ 10:53 pm



  65. I LIVE IN ENGLAND AND I AM GOING THROUGH THE SAME MY THREE CHILDREN WERE TAKEN DUE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS I HAD ALREADY LEFT MY HUSBAND THIS DID NOT NEED TO HAPPEN MY CHILDREN ARE MY LIFE EVERYTJING I DONE IN LIFE WAS CHOICE BUT MY INNOCENT CHILDREN WERE WHAT I WANTED IN LIFE I WONT GIVE UP EVEN THOUGH THERE SEEMS TO BE NO HOPE LEFT IF SOMEONE CAN OFFER ME HELP OR ADVICE PLEASE CALL ENGLAND CODE 01865326597 THANKS AND CARRY ON FIGHTING BECAUSE IF WE DONT PEOPLE WILL THINK THE JOB THEY ARE DOING IS RIGHT WE NEED TO BE HEARD XX

    Comment by SAM — December 2, 2007 @ 12:16 pm



  66. To Sam in England:

    There is a member of Parliament (MP) who is challenging Social Services predatory actions in the UK.

    I believe his name is David Hemming.

    Please contact him and report back to us.

    He is concerned about Social Services, since his gf was attacked by them in the last year or two.

    Please post his correct name and address so all of us can learn.

    Best. F.

    Comment by Fern — December 2, 2007 @ 12:52 pm



  67. i am in the same boat except i completed a previous case plan and had my then two children returned after almost 2 years of jumping through hoops. i thought i was finally done w/cps until my third child was born at home. cps alleged i was trying to hide something even though the ambulance was called right away and my tox screen was negative. my baby was very healthy and she was the biggest of all three. eight hours after i arrived at the hospital they stole my baby from me, not just one of my children did they take but they went to my home and took my other two children, they told my husband lies to get him to belive they had reason to detain our kids. and within minutes all three of my babies were gone.

    Comment by Rachelle Goodenough — January 13, 2008 @ 9:32 am



  68. to: confused and irritated, obviously you didd’nt read the the title of this website -FIGHT CPS- could it be anymore clear even for a social worker to understand! i belive you have dealt with REAL child abuse but this is for people who have had their families ripped apart and their hearts broken so unless you fit into one of those catagories you need to find some other website to praise the social workers who i still consider child stealing liars!!!!!!

    Comment by Rachelle Goodenough — January 13, 2008 @ 10:23 am



  69. This is response to a comment made by Confused & Irritated. You mentioned that a young unemployed mother and father were starving their children… Can you do me a favor and give them the address to this site. I would really like to hear their side of the story. And just so you know water, sugar, and red dye makes Kool-Aid!

    Comment by H.S. — February 4, 2008 @ 3:56 pm



  70. Hi. I’m mixed up in a situation right now because of a counseling session gone wrong. My husband and I are stuck living with my mom because of our financial situation. He is also from a culture in which many couples live with extended family. I’ve had a lot of traumatic times with my mom, who has been abusive toward me in many ways including emotionally. I decided that we would get counseling to try to work things out, etc. Anyway, in the first session we attended together, the counselor asked a question of my mom that made me nervous; her response also made me nervous. However, I thought that nothing would come of it. This week we received calls from CPS. Unfortunately they talked to my mom first and she gave additional information, which probably has us in deeper now. I found out that this was because of my mom’s comments, which were misconstrued, as was something else. This counseling center is a Christian one, and I’m tired of seeing Christians manipulated based on our values of brotherly kindness, justice, and obedience. I had to find out for myself who had called because they were keeping it secret. (Is this a violation of Constitutional rights or does it have to be a court situation.) When I confronted her, she claimed that she was required by law to do this. The comments, etc., even when taken out of contact, gave no reason to believe that the little ones’ lives were in danger or that they were in danger of being sent to the ER. Since this was a Christian organization it should also have “separation of church and state rights.” We need to stand up for our rights as Christians, organizations of faith, and families. It’s time to show that we are not vulnerable and will not be manipulated. If you’re a Christian please pray for us. If you have tips, then please post them. Tell me if you want me to clarify anything I said.

    Comment by JS — April 22, 2008 @ 11:45 am



  71. i know how that feel the same thing is happening in my famliy

    Comment by paige — April 28, 2008 @ 9:27 am



  72. Hey I just wanted to ask like….what have you guys done to get through all this. I have been forced to get a divorce. I cannot have any contact with my soon to be ex husband. And now my baby girl’s making “disclosures” to CPS that her daddy hurt her, which I know…KNOW t be untrue. Honestly I’m nt sure what exactly happened to her, But my husband was not away from me the entire night….ugggg…I dont know….Im so sick of this story….It’s been a year now, and im going to trail now for severance and adoption…..HELP ME PLEASE….ANYONE WITH INFORMATION THAT I COULD USE PLEASE HELP ME PLEASE….EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT TO JUST PLEASE HELP ME.
    my email address is
    terileighleigh@yahoo.com

    Comment by Teri Valdez — June 24, 2008 @ 3:41 pm



  73. gosh ,i wish i had found this site 8 yrs ago,but it doesnt seem anyone has posted in a while.i sure wish i had my computor in 2007 i have a good story to tell.well i will try just in case someone cares.i am 48 yrs old ,i had a beautiful baby girl at 39.i pissed of a nurse at mercy general hosp in sac ca she then called cps long long story they came in my room held my arms behind my back took my baby
    in the middle of the night what a shock
    went through all of there shit thinking i would get my baby girl sierra back
    hell no sold her.the nurses kept saying when i came in to nurse every 4 hrs
    oh shes perfect,blond hair blue eyes
    5lb baby girl huh eventually terminated my parental rights
    single mother never been in trouble 39 yrs old now i am 48 still suffer big time,to old to ever have another
    ripped me off i just hope i live long enough to see my baby girl again and that her sister stephanie can meet her sis,by the way stephanie is 25 yrs old and i raised her half of her life alone
    she is an accountant for 6 yrs
    soooo proud of her we are best friends how could i be a bad mother?
    ask steph.the sad part is that steph and i havent got to see sierra since she was born
    steph has never seen her.what a system they sold my blue eyed girl.

    Comment by margie meeks — September 5, 2008 @ 12:55 pm



  74. I just want to add something although its to late for me since my nightmare started 8 or 9 yrs ago lost track lol
    what about the mothers or familys that have been victoms of real false
    accusations?there should be some psychiatric help for them to have to carry on like that thinking they are
    worthless,stupid,poor at least to poor to hire an attorney for 17,000 dollars
    nightmares everynight
    cant bare to see a mother pushing a baby in a stroller,not to mention seeing parents that truly need cps in there lives.torturous i always have been a taxpayer most of my life as well as a good citizen until after they stole my baby girl.now i am a hermit
    i drink alot of beer just to stay calm
    i work construction ,good money
    but feel degrated,wandering around like a lost soul.i need someone to talk to.i am not sick but cps made me feel that way.i am holding on but its not easy.i have dreams and nightmares
    at least 2 to 3 times a week i feel
    angry most of the time .anyone else
    outthere have these kind of feelings

    Comment by margie meeks — September 5, 2008 @ 1:49 pm



  75. you know i had a theme for my baby girls nursery planned it for months
    minnie mouse,had the canopy crib
    minnie mouse highchair diaper bag clothes stuffed animals,baby book
    tons of diapers in the minnie mouse
    diaper holder,it was beautiful.the f***n
    social worker saw it all.i am one of the mothers whose baby was never brought home from the hosp
    i will never forget having to get into my car alone with baloons and a new car seat.and a beautiful nursery at home waiting for baby sierra to come home.no baby never got to see her nursery.my family had to eventually take it down and box it up.
    i think i need a psychiatrist help.
    why i am feeling this way now i dont know.i thought i was over this
    i cant i am a human being.cps tryied to
    torture me to the max and i tryed to swallow but now its coming up again.what do i do?they ruined a good mother as well as a goog citizen
    and worst of all no telling what sierra has gone through since the 2nd day of her life

    Comment by margie meeks — September 5, 2008 @ 2:06 pm



  76. anyone on this site any more?damn thats my luck.cry for help and never anyone to listenif anyone is out there please email me @ mammagoose@live.com
    at least i am barely alive lol

    Comment by margie meeks — September 5, 2008 @ 3:54 pm



  77. HELLO IM SORRY I HAVE NOT BEEN ON HERE IN A WHILE BUT I DO READ EACH AND EVERY COMMENT THAT IS LEFT ON THIS PAGE AND I STILL KEEP HAVING HOPE MY SELF THAT CPS WILL CHANGE OR DROP OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. I AM FROM TUSCOLA COUNTY MI AND IN THE LAST 4 MONTHS 15 INNOCENT FAMILYS HAVE BEEN TOREN APART HERE AND ITS ALL BECAUSE OF HOW DUMB THIS SYSTEM IS. I AM STILL FIGHTING AND I WILL CONTUNE TO FIGHT FOR MY CHILD HES NOW 5 YRS OLD AND I HAD TO MOVE OUT OF TUSCOLA COUNTY CAUSE I FOUND OUT I WAS GONNA BE A MOM AGAIN AND GUESS WHAT I HAVE A WONDERFUL BABY BOY AND IM EXSPECTING AGAIN BUT IM IN A HOLE NEW COUNTY ISNT THAT ODD AND IN ALL HONESTY THIS COUNTY FLAT OUT TOLD ME THAT I WAS WRONGED IN TUSCOLA AND THAT I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LOST MY SON TO BEGAIN WITH AND IN FACT SANILAC COUNTY TOLD ME THAT IF I WOULD HAVE TRANSFERED TO THIS COUNTY BEFORE MY RIGHTS GOT TERMINATED THEN MY SON WOULD HAVE JUST CAME HOME INSTEAD OF BEING HELD AS A PRISONER. BUT I DO HAVE UPDATED NEWS ABOUT MY SON TYLER AND THANKS TO THE STATE OF MICHIGAN ITS NOT THE BEST NEWS ANY MOTHER WANTS TO HEAR. TYLER NOW HAS SOME SEVERE MENTAL PROBLEMS. HE HAS AN ATTACHEMENT DISORDER AND POST TERMATIC STRESS DISORDER AND ADHD ANGER COMPLUSIVE DISORDER AND ALL THESE HAVE HAPPENED FROM THE STATE REMOVING HIM FROM HIS SAFE AND LOVING HOME. BUT THE BEST PART IS THAT HE STILL KNOW WHO WE ARE AND THAT HES STILL ALIVE. BUT ON A BROKEN MOTHERS THOUGHTS ITS STILL NOT THAT EASY GOING THROUGH EACH DAY KNOWING YOU HAVE A CHILD OUT THERE THAT YOU CANT SEE UNTIL HE TURNS 18 AND PRAY TO GOD THAT HE WILL COME HOME AND UNDERSTAND HOW SICK CPS IS FOR TARING US APART BUT UNTIL THEN HOPE IS ALL WE HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE KEEP FIGHTING FOR YOUR FAMILYS AND NEVER GIVE UP CAUSE ITS NOT OVER YET THERES ALWAYS HOPE. JUST KEEP COMMING TO THIS SITE AND READING STORYS CAUSE THIS IS A VERY SUPPORTIVE SITE THANKS TO LINDA AND IM GLAD THAT SHE DOSE HER BEST TO MAKE SURE EVERY STORY IS TOLD. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND HAVE FAITH

    Comment by LISA — September 20, 2008 @ 4:43 am



  78. HEY THIS IS LISA AND I JUST WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL TO OUR MYSPACE PAGE FOR ANY OF YOU WHO USE MYSPACE ITS UNDER TYLER BERLIN OF SANDUSKY MI LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING IT

    Comment by LISA — September 20, 2008 @ 5:08 am



  79. For those living in MICHIGAN:

    Check out this site and rally and demonstration next week.

    http://www.laryholland.com/serendipity/archives/537-Michigan-Legislators-and-Family-Rights-Organizations-Set-to-Rally-Tuesday-September-23,-2008.html

    Michigan residents; PLEASE FWD.

    Comment by Fern — September 20, 2008 @ 10:29 am



  80. maybe if you stopped putting stuff on myspace, and used that energy to take care of you child, this would not have happened.

    Comment by lulu — October 2, 2008 @ 10:30 am



  81. Hey Lulu for starters you probabaly have no room to talk. Whatever is on here about C.P.S. is true they are manipulative decieving and unhumane. You need to look at the real portrait here or you must be one those dictator workers yourself. So that being said what im telling you to do is just loook at the issue aat hand before you start to hand out your oppinion on this. You must be one of them because evil lies for evil. Good tells the truth about good. Is this getting through to you. Something is wrong about this child so called protection system. Have a nice day Lulu.

    Comment by JOHNNY — October 3, 2008 @ 10:21 am



  82. OK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU LULU WHAT DOSE MY SPACE HAVE TO DO WITH PARENTING A CHILD/ CHILDREN IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN MAYBE THE SAME GOSE FOR YOU MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT BE PUTTING ANYTHING ON HERE AND STAY OFF HERE TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILD/CHILDREN CAUSE YOUR NOTHING BUT A COWARD AS WELL FOR EVEN OPENING YOUR MOUTH HERE WHEN YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR PEOPLES FEELINGS. I THINK YOUR WRONG FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SAID.AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE MYSPACES BUT THAT DOSE NOT MAKE THEM A BAD PARENT!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by JOHNNY — October 4, 2008 @ 4:27 am



  83. Iam a loving mother of four beautiful children who mean the world to me. In Sept. 18, 2007 my children were removed from me I had a service plan and I have completed everything on it not only that my husband and I both have and we have had no violence since before the children were removed but yet they removed them for the past history of domestic violence. Past history wont that always be there. Well It already been over a year and they are still not hm not only that my son has been seperated from his sister to be placed with his father who would hit me and is married to a 14 year old. The system is wrong I need help.

    Comment by Elizabeth Torres — October 9, 2008 @ 9:55 pm



  84. Today was a good day I recived a call from my case worker telling me my son 7 years old asked her that he needed to talk to me and it was approved so tommorow Iam waiting on a call from him it made me cry its been since the 19th of Spetember I havent talked to him and not only that he had a birthday on the 24th and I wasnt able to wish him a happy birthday but Iam glad tommorow i will be talking to him and not only that his three sisters will make contact with him to cause they are realy hurt with the seperation.

    Comment by Elizabeth — October 9, 2008 @ 10:06 pm



  85. All I can say is God does mircles and I pray every night that one day I will get that call that my children are coming home I cant wait and I know it will happen because they mean the world to me and my husband and we will not stop until we get them back..

    Comment by Elizabeth — October 9, 2008 @ 10:09 pm



  86. I have a myspace and I am the best mother and my profile shows pictures of me and my kids and my comments always are happly married and proud parents and one want to c log on to it my email is elizabeth.torres26@yahoo.com.

    Comment by Elizabeth — October 9, 2008 @ 10:13 pm



  87. This story does have any facts to it. CPS will not take a child out of home unless they feel the child is endangered. I agree with Mr. Bob. There had to be a reason. The state doesnt want involved with cases like this b/c it just causing them to have to put the child in foster care and pay out money. The state would not just going around breaking up family just for the hell of it….where is the knowledge in that.

    Comment by Fred — October 22, 2008 @ 11:58 am



  88. OK SENCE SOME OF YOU THINK THAT I AM JUST MAKING UP MY STORY. THATS FINE YOU CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THE PAIN I FEEL EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO JUST THINK YOUR BETTER THEN EVERYONE YOU JUST WAIT CAUSE SOMEDAY IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU AND I DONT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHING TO ANYONE CAUSE THE LORD KNOWS WHAT HAPPEN IN MY CASE.IM HERE FOR SUPPORT FOR MY SELF AND OTHERS WHO HAVE WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING AS MYSELF NOT TO JUDGE AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE JUDGING PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELFS. HOW WOULD LIKE LIKE PEOPLE TO SAY SUCH THINGS ABOUT YOU.I JUST THINK THAT IF YOU CANT SAY SOMETHING NICE THEN DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. PERSONALY I COULD CARELESS WHAT ANYONE THINKS ABOUT ME OR MY STORY I WILL SAY THIS AS OF ONE THING IVE NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG TO LOSE MY SON AND IM NOT A BAD MOTHER. I DO HAVE A HEART AND I HAVE FEELINGS JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ENJOY HURTING PEOPLE WITH YOUR DISRESPECT YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS UNTIL YOU LOSE YOUR CHILDREN AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY BIRTHDAY EVERY HOLIDAY AND EVEN JUST SPECHAL DAYS THAT DO MEAN THE MOST TO YOU OR HOW ABOUT GOING TO BED EVERY NIGHT WONDERING IF YOUR CHLID/CHILDREN ARE STILL ALIVE AND OR IF THERE HUNGERY SCARED OR ALONE. YOU WILL NEVER KNOW. I SOMETIMES WISH THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE COLD HEARTED COULD LOSE YOUR KIDS JUST FOR A DAY TO LIVE AND WALK IN THE SHOES OF THOSE WHO HAVE THEN LETS SEE YOU COME HERE LOOKING FOR HELP AND PEOPLE JUDGE YOU. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE HURTFUL BUT I AM TRYING TO GET A POINT ACROSS HERE.BUT POINT BLANK THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR GONNA SAY ON HERE BEFORE YOU DO PUT ANYTHING ON THIS SITE. THANK YOU TO ALL THE REST OF YOU WHO ARE BEING SUPPORTIVE ON HERE IM STILL KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYONES STORYS AND IM PRAYING THAT THESE CPS SYSTEMS WILL CHANGE AND WE GET OUR CHILD/CHILDREN BACK HOME SAFE AND SOUND WHERE THEY BELONG. DONT GIVE UP

    Comment by LISA — November 2, 2008 @ 4:15 pm



  89. Fred – CPS DOES take children out of homes for no reason. You can’t tell me it doesn’t happen because I witnessed it for myself.

    I have also witnessed CPS present FALSE EVIDENCE in court. Happily, due to being prepared with REAL PROOF, we were able to prove to the judge that CPS was LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH! Gosh….the baby was even returned to the parents after the judge found CPS in MEDICAL NEGLECT OF AN INFANT.

    Wanna keep saying CPS is so wonderful? HMMM??????

    Why do I think you and Bob (spelled BOB just in case you’re not sure) are CPS workers?

    If you cannot be helpful or productive in this message board, please go somewhere else to spread your lies.

    Comment by willfightforjustice — November 2, 2008 @ 5:20 pm



  90. I am from indiana and have been involved with cps here since may of this year. this all started because my son was living with me and i got arrested on a FTA in court warrant for civil court in another county that dated 1998! I was in jail 3 weeks, and during that time my son stayed with my brother. My son was on probabtion for entering an abandoned house an while i was in jail he had to go to court. they did not take me to court with him so my brother took him. in my abscence, the court made my brother his legal gaurdian until i was to come home. when i was released and the charges dropped, i went to my brothers to get my son and was told by my brother that i could not have him until we went to court. so i patiently waited till court. the court told me that i could not have him until i attended a parenting group that lasted 7 weeks long because it only met once a week. i started going, and during that time was only allowed visitation on my brothers time. then my brother decided that he was unable to care for my son and asked the court to place him elsewhere, they would not give him to me cause i was not done with the parenting classes. they placed him in a group home 2 hours away from me and told me i had to also go there for counseling with my son. i did that. we went back t court and i got him back. had him for 3 months. then i was arrested again on the same charges for the same county because it was never deleted out of there system. that was on oct 27. the next morning i was still in jail and cps came to visit me. she wanteto know what i wanted to my son while i was away. i told her that the court would fix it and i would be home in a few days, and he could stay at home with my fiance and his parents. the next day she came back and said that because they were not family reletives that she had to move him to a foster home. they took him on the 29th . i got home from jail and had everything dropped on the 31st
    i went too get him and they told mei had to go to court again on the 5 th of november. i have not been able to see him yet. he has been allowed to call me. i do not think that i am going to get him back on court because i was told by th caseworker that i could have a visit at the end of the week . does anyone know of an attorney i could use that would do this for free.? i have the papers that say i have been doing everything that they asked of me. i will scan them t anyone that would like to see them. please ideas anyone …
    email me at compmom72@yahoo.com will respond to all and gl toeveryone

    Comment by jamie — November 3, 2008 @ 8:07 pm



  91. JAMIE BECAREFUL WHO YOU SEND ANYTHING TOO. CAUSE THERE ARE SOME SICK PEOPLE OUT THERE AND SOME PEOPLE DONT CARE TO HELP YOU OR ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS IVE LEARNED THAT FROM SOME PEOPLE ON THIS SITE. AS FAR AS YOUR CASE GOSE THOUGH I DONT KNOW HOW YOUR STATE WORKS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF BUT FOR STARTERS YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR RIGHTS OR THERE AND YOU CAN REQUEST ANY INFORMATION FROM YOUR LOCAL CPS OFFICE AND YOUR COURT LOOK THE RECORDS OVER AND DONT SIGN ANY PAPERS WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW CPS GETS YOU. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW ITS REALLY HARD TO FIND AND ATTORNEY TO DO ANYTHING FOR FREE. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE PAID OUT OVER 6000.00 DOLLARS FOR AN ATTORNEY AND I STILL LOST MY CHILD IN FACT MY FAMILY HAS PUT UP THERE HOUSE AND CAR AND EVERYTHING WE COULD JUST TO TRY TO FIGHT OUR SYSTEM AND IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE SUFFERING EVERYDAY WITH OUT MY LITTLE BOY. BUT IF THERES ONE THING IVE LEARNED IS NOT TO GIVE UP AND DONT LET CPS WIN YOU OVER.ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD LUCK AND TO KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.

    Comment by LISA — November 4, 2008 @ 6:40 am



  92. Hey Fred maybe you and the word C.P.S sleeps in the same bed. They do ransack peoples homes for children they look at this is the brother to a drug rade look Fred at the damn facts C.P.S fabs. a case to remove children from loving homes get it now Fred. Dont get me wrong Fred i dont have a problem with you personaly about the comment you made by agreeing with Bob the builder. But i do have a problem with your (IGNORANCE ). I think you need alittle help yourself on this touchy subject. You just cant grasp the truth and reality of what is going on about this subject. So i will close my comment now now that you may beleive it is actuallity.

    Comment by Johnny — November 5, 2008 @ 7:03 am



  93. To give everyone something to laugh about: I had an administrative hearing and the CPS had rehearsed the child. But: the child could not remember correctly of all the lies what he was supposed to say. The CPS supervisor tried to assist the child and put words into his mouth.
    My attorney did not even had to object ! The administrative judge (who actually works for the CPS) did it and told the CPS supervisor that the child is supposed to tell the truth and not anything that the CPS has told him to tell. If he does not remember the rehearsed statement then the child is not telling the truth and his statement is questionable.

    When the judge asked the child where was he hit, the child showed a wrong arm (not the one CPS claimed that he had a bruise). The CPS showed picture of a perfectly clean arm with no bruises as evidence of several injuries with a doctor’s report that there are no bruises or any other kind of injuries and that the child is as healthy as he could be.

    The administrative judge was buffled of why the case was even there at the first place. There was no evidence and the child was clearly rehearsed to tell a story which was not true.

    This is just to show BOB and FRED and other ones like them that the CPS can do and will do wrong, even make a child lie. Too bad for them that they could not make the child to be a more convincing liar!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by dawnie — December 11, 2008 @ 10:10 am



  94. Dawnie, thanks for the good report on your administrative hearing!!

    Comment by Linda — December 12, 2008 @ 5:28 pm



  95. I have a question:
    If your ex has gained custody of your only child because of the CPS involvement, and then you hear that the child is doing poorly at school (all Fs), tortures animals, kills pets (cats), shoots small animals with his gun.
    What would you do? where would you contact? Who would you report?

    Comment by help needed — December 15, 2008 @ 11:56 am



  96. Michiganians, did you know that this law has passed in the Senate? Do not vote for these persons again in the next election because the bill allows you to lose custody just based on numerous false calls to CPS because Friend of the court can change the custody based on the secret information / hearsay written down by the CPS. There does not have to be actual proof of evidence to change the custody after this bill!!!!!!

    bill 1418:

    Introduced in the Senate on June 26, 2008, to revise and add to the current requirements for coordination between Friend of the Court offices and the Department of Human Services in cases of child abuse or neglect. The DHS would be required to notify the FOC whenever there is a suspected child abuse or neglect case involving any of the latter’s cases, and would be allowed to notify the FOC if there have been multiple unfounded abuse complaints from one parent about the other parent. The DHS would be required to notify parents of a child who is suspected of being abused or neglected of their option to request a change in child placement

    The vote was 38 in favor, 0 opposed and 0 not voting

    (Senate Roll Call 540 at Senate Journal 75)

    The following legislators supported 2008 Senate Bill 1418 (Revise child abuse case procedures ):
    Allen (R) Anderson (D) Barcia (D) Basham (D) Birkholz (R) Bishop (R)
    Brater (D) Brown (R) Cassis (R) Cherry (D) Clark-Coleman (D) Clarke (D)
    Cropsey (R) Garcia (R) George (R) Gilbert (R) Gleason (D) Hardiman (R)
    Hunter (D) Jacobs (D) Jansen (R) Jelinek (R) Kahn (R) Kuipers (R)
    McManus (R) Olshove (D) Pappageorge (R) Patterson (R) Prusi (D) Richardville (R)
    Sanborn (R) Schauer (D) Scott (D) Stamas (R) Switalski (D) Thomas (D)
    Van Woerkom (R) Whitmer (D)

    Comment by michiganian — December 16, 2008 @ 9:13 am



  97. To “help needed” … I would contact the counselor at the child’s school ASAP… is that a possibility for you?

    Comment by Linda — December 18, 2008 @ 10:37 pm



  98. Thank you , michiganian, for the information… I hope Michigan victims will find this here.

    Comment by Linda — December 18, 2008 @ 10:38 pm



  99. YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH MICHIGANIAN THE INFORMATION IS VERY HELPFUL AND I THANKFUL FOR ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ON THE MICHIGANS LAWS AND STORIES CAUSE IT REALLY HELPS TO KNOW IM NOT ALONE THANKS AGAIN

    Comment by LISA FURGASON — December 19, 2008 @ 5:14 pm



  100. Why is it that CPS/DHS agents do not care for the well-being of the child?
    Our child used to get all As/Bs and now after he was taken away 1,5 years ago, he has changed his school twice, got all Fs in his report card and is depressed, uninterested of any school work…
    This was the result of the CPS procedure.

    Comment by a question — February 3, 2009 @ 5:38 am



  101. i feel so bad for you lisa i know what you are going through when i was reading your story i was thinking omg its the same thing they did to me but cps went behind my back an adopted my babies out to some lady i didnt even no they was adopted i was waiting for my new trial an well waiting thats when they did it i will never give up no matter how long it takes me my babies need to be back home with mommy not a fake mommy good luck if i find any thing new out i will let you no

    Comment by brandie cody — February 14, 2009 @ 6:26 pm



  102. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BRANDIE CODY, WHERE ARE YOU FROM AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DEALING WITH CPS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANKS

    Comment by LISA FURGASON — February 24, 2009 @ 12:38 pm



  103. There’s no need to be baffeled. Not everyone has the same life experiences or encounters. You only have to read enough stories to realize that DCF workers can be twisted liars and that their system does deprive children of their parents and vice vera. Obviously, you haven’t experienced a social worker harassing you, which is very good. I’m sure there are some good dcf workers. But the percentage is very low in the dcf profession. I hope you aren’t with your child’s father anymore. I’m glad you and your child made it through and don’t look back. From my experience and many others dcf does a lot of irreperable harm. Look at the large number of children that are abused and even killed in foster/adoption care. No one could tell me $$$ isn’t behind their motivations. The open up federal funds when they place a child into foster care and get up to $8,000 bonus for finalizing an adoption. There are no perfect parents, but even imperfect parents are entitled to live their lives and raise their children, without fear or threat of losing their most precious, irreplacable children. It becomes unbearable when a parent is denied of their own flesh and blood and simultaneously demeaned in the process of a hoax of court hearings and legal lies. God Bless Mothers who have lost their children due to DCF liars and fraud. God bless the children and return them to their mothers!!! God is in control.

    Comment by Heidi — March 2, 2009 @ 3:54 pm



  104. Fred,
    That just makes too much sense, doesn’t it? Why would the state take kids away from families who are doing the best they can and pay out money to other people to care for them? Maybe because they are a bunch of little neo nazi’s running around in disguise — hiding behind signs of “child protection” and ” well-being of the child,” when really they are greedy little pigs who need to keep busy to earn their $40,000 + a year. They drive nice cars, wear nice clothing, and get their nails and hair done. And why shouldn’t they — don’t they deserve it after all the hard work they do of protecting children from their wicked, evil parents. Shouldn’t they sit back and enjoy the fruit of their labors (may it rot in their deceptive mouth). May the typical DCF worker know that another child is heartbroken and another mother is crying after they have finished the task they set out to do. DCF doesn’t help anybody, but themselves- to government money and they use innocent children as pawns in their filthy scemes. Many social worker’s hands are greased with money so that the mother’s chidren will slip as far away from their loving moms as possible. They are dirty dogs. They are liars. God hates liars. God loves children and knows where they belong. Trust in Him to bring your children back –as I trust Him. (Fred —I hope I’ve given you some insight)

    Comment by Heidi — March 2, 2009 @ 4:23 pm



  105. HEY THANKS FOR YOUR POST AND YES I DO PRAY EVERYDAY FOR A MARICEL AND THE PHONE WILL RING AND SAY COME GET YOUR CHILD.AND I HONESTLY THINK THAT GIVES ME HOPE MAYBE FALSE HOPE BUT ITS BETTER THEN NO HOPE I GUESS BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE MY SON TYLER IS NOW 6 YEARS OLD AND HE IS NOT ADOPTED OUT YET AND TYLER IS THE BIRTH NAME I GAVE DO ANYONE THINK THEY CAN CHANGE HIS NAME NOW OR WOULD IT BE TOO LATE ? I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH DAMAGE THAT COULD CAUSE TO HIM AS WELL IF ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH GOD BLESS EVERYONE WHO READS OUR STORYS

    Comment by LISA — May 23, 2009 @ 6:17 pm



  106. I want leave my e-mail lavonnabaird at yahoo.com, i now know im not the only one out there,its had to keep it together.i have had to keep room made up for the boys.it makes me sad.how do you stop hurting.?I WANT MY SONS to know i didnt give them up.i know theres something i can do.thats why im posting.maybe i can get answers.if the lawyer wont do their job, i will,got to get the information.to the judge before NOT after trail .So i need to find someone to help me write a letter that i can send out. help please

    Comment by Lavonna — July 13, 2009 @ 7:55 pm



  107. Lavonna, welcome to the site. You arrived here too late for us to be much help for you. Please work with that appellate attorney. I wish you luck with the appeal.

    Comment by LindaJoMartin — July 13, 2009 @ 10:01 pm



  108. LAVONNA I AM SORRY YOU HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE SYSTEMS BUTI CAN HONESTLY SAY THE PAIN DONT EVER GET BETTER. SOMEDAYS ARE BETTER THEN OTHERS BUT THE PAIN WONT EVER GO AWAY UNTIL MAYBE THE DAY YOUR SONS COME BUT EVEN THEN YOUR GOING TO HAVE ALOT OF FEELINGS AND ALOT OF EMOTIONS TO GO THROUGH WHEN YOU SEE YOUR BOYS AGAIN. IM SURE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THEM AGAIN WHEN YOU TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED THE WAY THE SYSTEM STOLED THEM FROM YOU THEY WILL HOPEFULLY UNDERSTAND BUT WHATEVER YOU DO DONT GIVE UP ON THEM THAT WILL COUNT WHEN YOU FIND THEM. GOOD LUCK

    Comment by LISA — August 7, 2009 @ 3:15 pm



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